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Articles and discussion about the Solar System.

This is a community celebrating scientific study and exploration of the Solar System.

The Solar System is the gravitationally bound system comprising the Sun and the objects that orbit it, either directly or indirectly. Of those objects that orbit the Sun directly, the largest eight are the planets, with the remainder being significantly smaller objects, such as dwarf planets and small Solar System bodies.


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Egg Dwarfs

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2024/10/29
03:33 UTC

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Solar system simulation in android 14

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2024/10/18
10:50 UTC

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A small contribution of a 3D model of the Solar System

Solar System Custom

Hello friends, I'm new here, I wanted to make a small contribution of a 3D model of the solar system that I made once, it is not to scale but I found it interesting to practice. https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/solar-system-custom-c4d55b801842497c9900c7dbcea1727c

The color is not necessarily the most realistic. They are not proportional and clearly the distance is not to scale, it is only a test. https://www.behance.net/gallery/64190341/Solar-System

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2024/10/03
15:28 UTC

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Ocean worlds

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2024/09/29
00:09 UTC

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Picture of Mars with C/2023 E3 a comet that wasn’t seen for 50,000 years

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2024/09/26
14:09 UTC

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Uh oh

In 2025 or 2026 I think the world will end

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2024/09/14
19:17 UTC

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Our solar system needs a name.

Why doesn't our solar system have a name? I think that we should give it a name because if we're gonna meet people from other solar systems, we can't just say.. "Oh we're from that solar system over there. It needs a name.

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2024/09/11
00:49 UTC

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Goldilocks zone expansion?

Okay so I have a question cause I got to thinking, earth is in the Goldilocks zone which is why its habitable, but when the sun becomes a red giant it’ll most likely engulf mercury, Venus earth, and possibly mars, so would that mean that Uranus or Neptune would be the next habitable planet? Because of the Goldilocks zone? Because I would think if the sun expanded…the zone would to..but I guess my question is between the two which would be most likely to become like earth? Or is it even possible for the Goldilocks zone to exist around a red giant?

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2024/08/24
09:41 UTC

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Could anything make the moon drift closer to Earth?

This is a sort of thought experiment I've become obsessed with.

In a ton of fictional media set in the future -- games, TV, movies, etc. -- the moon in the sky looks huge. I know this is just a stylistic choice, but I've been wondering if there's anything that could actually cause that to happen. Every idea I've had has lead to a dead end; the sun could never produce enough energy at once to push it (short of exploding but then we'd have a whole different issue), any celestial body big enough to change its orbit would also demolish it on impact, plus that would require a separate event to throw a dwarf planet from the edge of the solar system or a large moon from one of the gas giants towards Earth. If something happened to trigger a ton of asteroids to fall towards Earth, hitting the moon, maybe that could slowly nudge it closer, but that would also have Earth getting bombarded by asteroids when the moon isn't blocking them, scrapping it as a possibility for most futuristic fiction. I've even considered the merging of the Milky Way and Andromeda as a possibility, but not only do I doubt that the only noticeable difference would be that the moon is closer, that also won't happen until the Earth is twice as old as it is now, also scrapping it for most fiction.

I'm out of ideas and google is out of answers. Is there any cosmic event that could push the moon closer to Earth or slow the speed of its orbit enough to let Earth's gravity do the job?

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2024/08/19
23:00 UTC

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I can confirm, Episode 1 of my series "The Planets" will be titled... Um... I... actually don't know...

Basically, the plot of the episode is an asteroid got thrown off orbit and is now orbiting the Earth. Turns out, it's the ancestor of the asteroid that destroyed the dinosaurs. What is the title of this episode?

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2024/08/08
12:22 UTC

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Are dwarf planets and minor planets the same thing?

Same thing or two completely different things?

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2024/08/06
06:53 UTC

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A new series I'm working on. "The Planets: Official Trailer"

A bit ambitious but I'll be able to do it!

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2024/08/05
19:43 UTC

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why do i see the sun a 1:45 am

why do i see the sun so late at night, im asking you guys to help me find answers

https://preview.redd.it/u2axhzoei7ed1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=acadb3928b24a5b27eae697b1bcc6344c4419956

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2024/07/23
05:45 UTC

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Interstellar Wilderness Reserve Bureau Series by me

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2024/07/18
09:38 UTC

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Is Neptune the same colour as Uranus or is it slightly darker

It's obviously not a deep blue, that's for sure

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2024/07/17
03:21 UTC

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Vandematram Indian National Song 🪷🇮🇳🪷

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2024/07/15
18:39 UTC

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One very fascinating CGI animation made in the 1980s-1990s regarding the Voyager's visiting the outer planets. Each one goes in depth about what was discovered from the twin probes, all about Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune!

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2024/07/08
18:42 UTC

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The Extraterrestrial Origin of the Continental Tectonic Plates

Gneissic continental basement rock is suggested here to be extraterrestrial in origin, from aqueously-differentiated hot-classical Kuiper belt objects (KBOs), with terrestrial emplacement during the late heavy bombardment (LHB), circa 4.2–3.8 Ga.

An alternative solar system formation mechanism, designated "trifurcation", was designed to explain the 3 sets of twin planets (Jupiter-Saturn, Uranus-Neptune and Venus-Earth) in our highly unusual solar system, and this mechanism has both hallmarks of a good theory: fertility and falsifiability.

The most immediately falsifiable aspect of this mechanism is the prediction that the 6 twin planets + Mercury (excluding Mars) lay on the 3-oxygen-isotope terrestrial fractionation line (TFL) and more specifically that the hot classical Kuiper belt objects (KBOs) have the exact same isotopic and chemical composition as Earth's continental tectonic plates. Thus, a sample return mission to Venus would either support this mechanism or completely falsify it with no possibility of redemption.

The late heavy bombardment theory has been strengthened by dating lunar spherules from the Apollo mission, which indicates a bimodal LHB, with a narrow early pulse followed by the broader main pulse (and a bimodal LHB is another falsifiable requirement of this alternative hypothesis). By comparison, the Grand Tack standard model rejects LHB theory, because the planetary migration inherent in Grand Tack had to occur early rather than late when the prime mover of the protoplanetary disk was still intact.

Sedimentary origin of the continental tectonic plates:

Far-and-away the shakiest of all the standard models is the supposed formation of metamorphic migmatite by 'anatexis', where anatexis is the supposed partial melting of protolith where the light-colored 'felsic' minerals supposedly melt, while the dark-colored 'mafic' minerals remain unmelted. It may be possible to explain the formation of metamorphic migmatite by anatexis without extensive hand waving—but I've never seen it done. For starters, the standard model of migmatite formation requires extreme fine tuning of temperature, pressure, gas and fluid content to create conditions where only the light-colored felsic minerals melt (quartz, feldspars and muscovite), while the dark mafic minerals (biotite, hornblende & etc.) remain unmelted, but melting alone doesn't begin to explain why the resulting partial melt separates to form the alternating felsic-mafic layering characteristic of migmatite, where the felsic-mafic layering can be so regular as to resemble the pages of a book, nor does it explain why migmatite is so frequently associated with centimeter-scale isoclinal folding in rock units kilometers on a side at 10s of kilometers beneath the surface.

Banded iron formation theory to the rescue:

Algoma-type banded iron formation (BIF) is uncannily similar to migmatite in appearance and in its basic description. Algoma-type BIF has the same felsic-mafic layering as migmatite, with the same centimeter-scale folding, but unlike the problematic anatexis theory (which can only explain partial melting and not folding and modulated layering), the modulated sedimentation theory of Algoma-type BIF is wholly intuitive. According to Pirajno and Yu (2021), the felsic-mafic layering is due to modulated authigenic sedimentation of quartz and iron oxides from hydrothermal plumes, forming mounds of authigenic sediments around hydrothermal vents that slumped and folded when the underwater sedimentary mounds exceeded the critical angle.

If it quacks like a duck, maybe it's a duck.

The extraterrestrial origin of the continental basement rock suggests that migmatite formed the exact same way as Algoma-type BIF, except in a low-gravity extraterrestrial setting, where the authigenic mineral grain size was proportionally larger than on Earth. Indeed, if migmatite had the same mineral grain size as Algoma-type BIF, then the standard model for migmatite formation would be modulated authigenic sedimentation with accompanying slump folding prior to lithification, the same as Algoma-type BIF. But because of the enlarged mineral grain size in migmatites, a terrestrial origin forces anatexis on you, regardless of how unnatural the fit.

Migmatite formed near hydrothermal vents, while gneiss formed at a greater distance from the vents. The mounding and associated slump folding were greater in the vicinity of hydrothermal vents where migmatite formed, and the felsic-mafic layering was fuzzier in gneiss, because gneiss formed at a distance from hydrothermal vents where the modulation from multiple hydrothermal vents overlapped.

Since this is a solar system forum, maybe that's sufficient geology for one post. What follows is the alternative solar system formation hypothesis, for which trifurcation is the lynchpin.

Pirajno, Franco; Yu, Hao-Cheng, (2021), Cycles of hydrothermal activity, precipitation of chemical sediments, with special reference to Algoma-type BIF, Gondwana Research, Volume 100, Dec. 2021, Pages 251-260
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Alternative solar system dynamics:
(optional reading)

¶ An extraterrestrial origin for continental basement rock places stringent constraints on the composition of hot-classical KBOs, namely a siderophile-depleted composition that lies on the 3-oxygen-isotope terrestrial fractionation line (TFL) and has a lower density than terrestrial basalt such that it floats on the mantle and stands proud above sea level. The inner solar system asteroids and chondrites possess none of these properties, requiring that the high-angular-momentum hot-classical KBOs formed from a different reservoir than the low-angular-momentum reservoir that formed the inner solar system asteroids and chondrites.

'Symmetrical FFF' and 'trifurcation':
¶ A former binary-Companion and three sets of twin planets in our solar system (Jupiter-Saturn, Uranus-Neptune, and Venus-Earth) are suggested here to have formed in 4 generations, like Russian nesting dolls from a former 'Brown Dwarf', which was the original stellar core of our solar system. 'Brown Dwarf' is capitalized as the name of the original protostellar core of the solar system.
¶ Brown Dwarf formed at the center of a massive protoplanetary accretion disk, where the accretion disk was much-more massive than diminutive brown-dwarf-mass protostellar core, such that Brown Dwarf was unable to damp down disk inhomogeneities in the disk from amplifying into full-fledged disk instability. In this case, the massive accretion disk underwent a bilateral disk instability, forming a twin pair of stellar-mass disk-instability objects orbiting Brown Dwarf, constituting a non-hierarchical (dynamically-unstable) system. The twin disk-instability objects evolved into a pair of protostars that formed our former 'binary-Sun'. During a period of orbital interplay, the twin stellar components that became binary-Sun progressively spiraled in while 'evaporating' Brown Dwarf into a circumbinary orbit. And the orbital dynamics that evaporated the Brown Dwarf into a circumbinary orbit around former binary-Sun also caused Brown Dwarf to 'spin up' and undergo centrifugal fragmentation, by way of 'trifurcation'.
¶ In orbital close encounters between objects with differing masses, the principle of 'equipartition of kinetic energy' dictates that the less massive object leaves the close encounter with a kinetic-energy kick at the expense of the more-massive object, progressively evaporating Brown Dwarf into a circumbinary orbit at the expense of the kinetic energy and angular momentum of the much-more-massive stellar components, which spiraled inward into a close-binary pair to become binary-Sun. But not only did Brown Dwarf gain orbital kinetic energy and angular momentum, but it also received rotational kinetic energy and angular momentum in the form of rotational spin up to the point of centrifugal fragmentation. Brown Dwarf was evaporated into a hierarchical circumbinary orbit around binary-Sun at a distance of about 15 AU, but not before undergoing centrifugal fragmentation by a very specific pathway leading to 'trifurcation'.
¶ The centrifugal force of rotation causes a gravitationally bound object to deform into an oblate sphere. Continued spin up deforms an oblate sphere into an triaxial ellipsoid and finally into a bilaterally-symmetrical bar-mode instability, whose centrifugal failure mode is to gravitationally fragment into a twin pair of objects in orbit around a much-less-massive residual core, fragmenting a single object into 3 components, hence 'trifurcation'. And the newly-trifurcated non-hierarchical system was a mini-me version of the original system and similarly dynamically unstable. First-generation trifurcation promotes second-generation trifurcation, and etc., like Russian nesting dolls.
¶ Thus, Brown Dwarf orbited by the pair of much-more-massive twin disk instability objects induced first-generation trifurcation, fragmenting Brown Dwarf into a twin-binary pair of super-Jupiter-mass objects orbiting a much-less-massive residual core, which was a mini-me version of the original disk instability, which promoted second-generation trifurcation. So first-generation trifurcation promotes second-generation trifurcation, and etc,, like Russian nesting dolls, forming;

  • 0 gen, binary-Sun + Brown Dwarf core
  • 1st gen, binary-Companion + 'SUPER-Jupiter' (residual core),
  • 2nd gen. Jupiter-Saturn + 'SUPER-Neptune' (residual core),
  • 3rd gen. Uranus-Neptune + 'SUPER-Earth' (residual core), and
  • 4th gen. Venus-Earth + Mercury (residual core)

¶ Binary-binary resonances caused eccentricity pumping of all 4 sets of binary pairs (binary-Companion, Jupiter-Saturn, Uranus-Neptune, Venus-Earth) at the expense of binary-Sun. Binary-Companion orbited binary-Sun at a distance of about 15 AU, with other binary pairs + Mercury orbiting binary-Companion. Eccentricity pumping caused Uranus-Neptune to escape from binary-Companion via its outer L2 Lagrangian point, and Jupiter-Saturn escaped via the inner L1 Lagrangian point, with Earth-Venus-Mercury in tow. Then Venus-Earth-Mercury escaped from Jupiter-Saturn via Jupiter-Saturn's inner L1 Lagrangian point. Additional eccentricity pumping by binary-Sun caused all binary pairs to separate, except former binary-Companion.
¶ Because Brown Dwarf had internally differentiated into a siderophile-enriched iron core prior to trifurcation, the trifurcation debris disk was necessarily siderophile depleted. Additionally, the residual core of a trifurcation generation inherited a higher specific mass of metallic iron than its much-more massive twin-binary pair of siblings, and each next-generation trifurcation inherited a higher specific mass of metallic iron than the previous-generation, which is why Mercury has the highest specific mass of metallic iron of all the planets formed by trifurcation. Mars is the odd man out in the solar system, which formed by a different planet formation mechanism. And since all the planets formed by trifurcation came from the same Brown Dwarf reservoir, they should all lie on the 3-oxygen-isotope Brown Dwarf fractionation line, which we know as the terrestrial fractionation line (TFL).
¶ Then the hot-classical KBOs formed by streaming instability from the trifurcation debris disk orbiting beyond Neptune, which have the identically correct siderophile-depleted TFL composition to constitute the continental crust on Earth, including a lower density than terrestrial basalt.

¶ Shortly after the trifurcation epoch, the stellar components of former binary-Sun spiraled in to merge at 4,567 Ma in a luminous red nova that scrubbed the solar system of the earlier trifurcation debris disk, leaving behind its own low-angular-momentum 'solar-merger debris disk' with a solar composition that formed the asteroids with live stellar-merger-nucleosynthesis radionuclides, and slightly-later formed chondrites, largely after the short-lived radionuclides had decayed away.

Late heavy bombardment:
¶ Perturbation of binary-Companion by the newly-merged Sun caused its super-Jupiter-mass binary components to spiral in, transferring their close-binary potential energy to progressively-increasing the heliocentric eccentricity of binary-Companion over time, which progressively increased binary-Companion's heliocentric period. The progressively-increasing heliocentric period of binary-Companion caused its 1:4 mean-motion resonance to migrate outward through the Kuiper belt, perturbing KBOs into the inner solar system, causing the LHB of the inner solar system that embedded gneissic-composition KBO cores into Earth's lithosphere, ~ 4.2–3.8 Ga.

¶ The progressively-increasing eccentricity of former binary-Companion around the Sun caused binary-Companion to overrun Uranus' orbit, resulting in Uranus' severe axial tilt. As spiral-in of the binary-Companion components progressed, the super-Jupiter-mass components progressively accreted their own moons, fogging the solar system, which caused the Sturtian glaciation of Snowball Earth. Ultimately the super-Jupiter components merged at 650 Ma in an asymmetrical merger explosion that gave newly-merged Companion escape velocity from the Sun, with the merger debris creating the 650 Ma 'Companion-merger debris disk' that condensed the young, cold classical KBOs against Neptune's outer 2:3 resonance by streaming instability, and resulting fogging of the solar system caused the Marinoan glaciation of the Cryogenian Period on Earth.
¶ The loss of the centrifugal force of the Sun around the former Sun-Companion barycenter caused all heliocentric objects to fall into slightly lower period orbits, and the resulting readjustment of the solar system caused super tsunamis on Earth, resulting in the global erosion of the Great Unconformity at circa 650 Ma.

[The trifurcation mechanism also predicts that each trifurcation planet was born with an oversized "trifurcation moon", with one moon of each twin pair injected into a prograde orbit, such as like Titan at Saturn and Luna at Earth, and the other moon of the twin pair injected at formation into a doomed retrograde orbit, like Triton at Neptune. Here's the accounting:

  • Venus' former retrograde trifurcation moon spiraled in and merged with Venus at 541 Ma, seeding Earth with Venusian lifeforms, causing the Cambrian Explosion on Earth. The 'Venusian cataclysm' entirely resurfaced Venus and is responsible for the present high temp. high density sulfurous atmosphere
  • Earth's prograde trifurcation moon Luna (not formed by "Giant Impact")
  • Uranus lost its prograde trifurcation moon and all its other moons in solar system dynamics that accounts for its 90° tilt, such that its present well-behaved moons are young (650 Ma)
  • Neptune's moon trifurcation moon Triton is in a doomed retrograde orbit that will spiral in and merge with the planet in about 3.6 billion years.]
  • Jupiter's former retrograde trifurcation moon spiraled in and merged with Jupiter at 4,562.5 Ma, forming the E-type asteroids and enstatite meteorites, which are the only meteorites that lay on the TFL
  • Saturn's prograde trifurcation moon Titan]
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2024/07/02
05:44 UTC

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What fictional stories feature the moon as a plot device?

I am currently working on an essay about the use of the moon in fictional media such as video games, movies, anime, books, and comics. It would be a huge help to have r/Solar_System help me discover these stories.

I am not looking for any fictional media where the moon is merely in the background. The moon needs to be explicitly shown to be an important element in the history/lore of the plot.

Some examples include:

The Legend of Zelda: Majoras mask Cannot have a better candidate. Video game where the plot follows Link as he is turned into a small wood-based creature known as a deku as he tries to stop skull kid from bringing the moon down to earth to crash it.

Nier: Automata Video game where the plot follows humanoid androids 2B and 9S as they fight aliens invading earth. The last remaining humans are said to have set up an organization known as the army of humanity located on the moon.

Neon Genesis: Evangelion Anime series and franchise following the life of Shinji, a young boy who controls a giant robot to fight giant alien-like creatures known as angels. Lore of the show has the first event feature the creation of the moon, as the egg that houses the creator of angels crash landed on earth thousands of years ago which created the moon from the earth debris. One of the most important characters of the show, Rei, is shown to have intense symbolism and cinematic shots of the moon and herself.

If anybody in this subreddit is familiar with any fictional media featuring the moon as a plot device I would greatly appreciate it if you were to comment. Please and thank you :)

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2024/06/28
03:06 UTC

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Sednas distance

We all know sednas distance,right?but to put it into perspective,at sednas apoapsis it is 13.98 billion miles away from the sun. It would take approximately 27,000 years to travel that long in a car going 60 mph.Sedna is so far away you could block out the sun with the head of a pin!

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2024/06/18
23:33 UTC

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Voyager 1 Space Probe

Voyager 1 is currently travelling at 7 km/s, The Sun is travelling at 230 km/s, the reason that Voyager 1 is close to the sun right now is because it travels with it, it goes away from the sun because it travels at 17 km/s moving away from it but at 247 km/s moving through the galaxy. But it doesn't leave the Sun even though it travels through the galaxy slower than it, because the Sun also pushes it and it is as fast as it and even faster because of its own speed. My question is, when Voyager 1 leaves the Oort cloud or I should say the point where the Sun's pull is none, at the point where the Sun doesn't affect Voyager 1's speed through the galaxy, doesn't that mean that the Sun will like catch up in speed? Like will we at one point in like thousands of years catch Voyager 1? Is it possible that when the Sun reaches Voyager 1 because of its faster speed if it is even possible there is like a 0.0000000001% chance that we can return it to earth? Like is it possible? Could we do it? Or even if it doesn't come to the Solar System will it come close? Because it will like go backwards, it might keep its speed even if it leaves I don't know, do you know? Will the Solar System in the future surpass Voyager 1?

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2024/06/11
14:14 UTC

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Extra Jupiter Pic (ft. io)

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2024/05/27
12:48 UTC

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Skylab Space Station poster by me (1973: Forging the future of human life in space)

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2024/05/23
12:25 UTC

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Viking Program, Spacecraft and Lander (blueprint by me)

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2024/05/14
11:43 UTC

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