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Exeriminatus comes in many varieties, from just bombing out a planet from orbit till lifelessness to virus bombs and cyclonic torpedoes. But what are the pros and cons of each method?

Did they get any recent lore?

I’m quite new to 40k in general but the lore has me absolutely hooked. For me the The Infinite and The Divine is by far the best book out of the 10 or so I’ve read so far which has sparked an interest in any Necron POV writings. The following excerpt made me actually laugh out loud.

“Each beam was a malediction written in neutrinos: a simple hekatic proclamation, decreeing the non-existence of the target’s mind. In the case of orks, the proclamations used were very simple indeed, amounting to little more than ‘my brain has ended’. They worked.”

I've been thinking about this for some time, and from what I can see the most defended faction homeworld would have to be between Terra (including the Sol System), Commoragh, and Mandragora (or whatever homeworld/system the Szarekh Dynasty rules over).

Between these 3, a lot of people would say Terra/Sol is the most/best defended area, but imo this is due to exposure bias and the rampant focus on the Imperium in lore. Am I wrong in believing that Commoragh or one of the main Necron Dynasty homeworlds/systems could give Sol's defenses a run for their money?

We know that orks tend to evolve depending on what world they're on and what they're fighting. I remember reading that different levels of technical knowledge is unlocked in the orks DNA depending on what level of technology they're fighting against. This is why "feral" orks exist on midevil worlds that don't get passed the iron age. Orks have the ability to grow tek boyz as part of their society, but those boyz will only have "unlocked" whatever level tek they need to fight what they're fighting.

The (k)orks were created to fight the Necron, and what level of tek could they unlock if they needed to go up against the Necron's teknomancy? Seems like they'd have to unlock their highest level.

Maybe the Eldar understand this aspect of the orks. They could have used this to de-evolve the korks once the Necrons fell a sleep. Making sure the Orks never needed to unlock their full Kork potential, until the Korks were forgotten and all that was left was orks.

Just a thought.

Remember this is just a bit of fun and it's basically something I've made up in the past 2 weeks or so for a laugh, if the formatting is shite I apologise, anyways, my Terran Salamander Chapter is roughly typed out here, obviously it needs a lot of work/detail to make it a bit more cools haha, apologies for the Chapters "boring" name and on the nose "Flame" stuff, also, ideas and stuff for a Terran Chapter are welcome, just cause my ideas are like a paper cut in detail doesn't mean I'll shit on your ideas, ah hellWarp if your idea is used I'll give you a wee mention somewhere!

Anyways:

Chapter Name: Flames of Terra Founding Legion: Salamanders Primarch:Vulkan Homeworld: Terra Chapter Master: Colours: Specialty: Garrison Force of Terra, post Fall of Cadia. Strength: Battle Cry: The Flames of Terra were created during the beginnings of Indomitus Crusade at the behest of the Custodes Valerian who had had a frank discussion with Captain Garadon during the Hexarchy period:

“As the Days of Blindness had begun, I had been travelling towards my first encounter with the Neverborn on Terra, something I shall never forget.

‘Not quite,’ I said. Garadon shook his head in irritation. ‘Then I’ll speak plainly, Custodian.’ ‘Please do.’ ‘This has been reckless. It has been irresponsible. We should have an entire Chapter here – more than one.’

• Conversation between Tor Garadon, Imperial Fists Captain, 3rd Company and Valerian, Custodes Shield-Captain, Argent Chamber Shield Host.

FORMATION:

Before Valerian left on his hunt for the escaped Heretic Convolute, he and Captain Garadon managed to petition Captain-General Valoris to petition Lord Guilliman to create a Chapter of Primaris Space Marines for Garrison of Terra to ensure that if another Battle of Lions Gate or a Hexarchy coup were attempted then there would be a Chapter of Space Marines at the ready to at worst, blunt the attack or, at best, wipe it out before it got to that stage in the first place.

Guilliman and Valoris discussed this and came to the conclusion that the Fists would still call Terra theirs and have their minimalist War-Keep Garrison but this new Chapter would be the new official defenders of Terra - and only Terra.

The main problem they had had was choosing which Founding Legion/Chapter would be ideal to satisfy the politics of having a Chapter on Terra, of course, the Fists are already on world but busy Crusading with Indomitus, Ultramarines wouldn’t be prudent given Guilliman was back and they already had the largest amount of Successors. Next thoughts were White Scars or Raven Guard, but it was decided that the White Scars wouldn’t thank you for Garrison duty and the Raven Guard, while more suited to the fighting Insurgency and Counter-Insurgency which would be helpful to the Hives of Terra tended to be “anti-tyrant” and that would grate against the Centre of the Imperium. Blood Angels were also nearly considered given Sanguinius and his Angel-like qualities but their flaws were known to Guilliman and the Custodes. Iron Hands were too closely associated with the Mechanicus and given Mars proximity it could upset the balance. Dark Angels were considered too secretive. Space Wolves were considered similar to Raven Guard and too anti authoritarian. So this lead to them deciding that Salamanders as the best for Garrison Duties! This was calculated given Vulkans defence of the Golden Throne during the Siege of Terra 10 thousand years ago and also given the perceived empathy that the Salamanders had towards civilian populations and the massive Pilgrimage . The Chapter would be named Flames of Terra.

ORGANISATION:

• Unlike most Chapter this Chapter would have no Fleet to speak of, namely a single Vanguard Strike Cruiser which stays within orbit of Terra with a rotating Company always on Garrison duties, ready to drop down to the surface of Terra at a moments notice. • 7 Companies like their Salamander Founders, within the Terran Crusade of Guilliman were half a dozen Salamanders, notably Chaplain T’Klun, a Chaplain of 300 and some years, who, in the build up of Indomitus wasn’t sent back to his Salamanders and instead instructed by Guilliman to teach the newly formed and awoken from the stasis Primaris Marines of the Flames of Terra about the Salamanders Promethean Cult, which they would cherry pick to fit their purpose of Garrisoning Terra, also among their small trainee number were 2 Sergeants, a Junior Techmarine, a Lexicanum and two Battle Brothers. As this was before the Rubicon these were all temporary assignments, a decade of teaching then they would leave for the Salamanders, except the Lexicanum, who is named Dal’cruam who would be promoted to Codicier and continue alongside the Chapter and when news of the Rubicon-Primaris and its success rate were increased he would rise to the rank of Epistolary and the Librarius’s 2nd in command. COMPANY DISPOSITION • 1st Company “The Firedrakes” named in honour of the Salamanders 1st Company, the first awoken from Stasis and classed as “the Veterans” of the Chapter they consist of Veteran Intercessors and Bladeguard Veterans as standard and 30 Terminator Suits for close quarters fighting inside tight Hive Tunnels, similar to Terminators used in Space Hulks. • 2nd Company “Defenders of Terra”, Chaplain T’Klun’s Salamander Company and thus mostly modelled after the Salamanders 2nd Company with its similar perceived compassion and defence of Citizenry, the Company has close relations with the Ecclesiarchy and is known to perform security among the Pilgrim Trails to the Eternity Gate. • 3Rd Company “The Pyro-Puritans”, a less savoury Salamanders force, involved with the more frightening authoritarian Organisations of the defences of Terra, such as the Inquisition and Battle Sisters and less so the Arbites, they will send Squads into the Lower Hives to conduct anti-mutant pogroms with their Flame and Melta Weapons, known for fielding in unusual Squads in a 7 Intercessor and 3 Infernus or Hellblaster Special Weapons units. • 4th Company “Soaring Flames” due to the Flames of Terra having no real Fleet assets 4th Company is a deviation from all other Companies in that it solely uses Gunship Squadrons rather than Space Marines. This doesn’t include Thunderhawks and Transports of other Companies. This means they have managed to have 5 Gunships per Squadron and 10 Squadrons total, each Gunship will have the “Standard” Loadout but can be easily swapped out for what the mission entails.(called them Gunships cause am unsure of they’re still using Stormtalons and other stuff)

As losses for the Flames of Terra aren’t as attrition-heavy as most other Chapters and thus their 5th and 6th Companies are also Battle Companies as they don’t require Reserves as such.

• 5th Company “Flame Hunters” are close associates of the Arbites and the PDF/Astra Militarum and their job is similar to the 3rd Company but instead of being sent in to purify an area their job is to move in and kill a target,but without the finesse of an assassin, they go in and brutally subjugate that particular Gang Leader/Demagogue Cult/Rabble Rouser, they are also known to curtail and clip the wings of certain Ecclesiarchy rabble to prevent their overall looting. While every Marine has been a Vanguard a lot of Vanguard Marines, when they get accepted into the 5th tend to stay. • 6th Company “Vulkan’s Hammer” this Company is given over to solely Fire Support Squads and their Captain tends to be the most diplomatic of all the Captains, for he is the one who decides if 2nd Company needs those Aggressor Units for a mission or not. In fact while the other Companies have plenty of Outside Organisational Friends the 6th is the most Insular and less likely to have anyone as an ally outside of the Chapter, although the 6th Captain is seen as also the Chapter Masters Negotiator/Herald. • 7Th Company “Unseen Flame” this Company is the Vanguard Phobos Space marine force as well as having a non-codex extra Lieutenant in charge of Training, it works as a more specialised and Training Company although the Scout section tends to be a lot smaller than other Chapters, as low as 30 Scouts due to the low attrition rate of the Chapter as a whole. Also, Land Speeders are the purview of the 7th.

THE DEFANGED CHAPTER

As said above the Chapter has a single Vanguard Strike Cruiser as a “Fleet” and they are thus stuck on Terra, they have also been forbidden by their mandate, known officially as the Primarch’s Mandate, to not be permitted to use particularly Heavy Vehicles, such as the Astraeus and Land Raiders and certain various Battle Tank Variants of Gladiator tanks, given that Terra is the Homeworld of Humanity with massive Hives. This isn’t to say they wouldn’t have access to such weaponry if the High Lords of Terra give them the opportunity, and their proximity to Mars/Cawls Factories(can’t remember if he still has holdings on Mars).

That's what I have so far and it is as generic as fuck to be fair, names are a particular cunt to come up with, also my way of wanting to organise a Chapter is a bit of an anathema - hehe - in terms of I'd make a Squad 7 Intercessors and 3 Specialists(like my above example of 3 Infernus or Hellblaster Marines)

I realise a lot of what I've typed can be easily hand waved as "your dudes" but I do think a Salamander Chapter could work as a Terran Garrison(I've unfortunately made them maybe a bit too "good" in terms of having pals in the Inquisition, Arbites and Battle Sisters but I do think a Chapter on the Throneworld would need that type of diplomacy!)

Anyways, pick me apart but aid me as well haha!

Considering the Great Crusade wiped out several peaceful xenos and resulted in the Horus Heresy giving Chaos their greatest champions in the materium, as well as inadvertently attracting the attention of the Tyranids, how much of the current state of the galaxy is down to the Emperor's existence? Is there any way he can be viewed as having been a positive influence?

The best I can think of is that without him, humanity probably would have died off or regressed into another age of strife. Or, if you consider the Tyranids arrival as inevitable, the Imperium even in their current state are probably the strongest fighting force that could have been produced in that time.

Hello everyone! So I read Brutal Kunnin and recently finish Warboss, both by Mike Brooks.

Now in the end, we see the main character from Burtal Kunning, Ufthak Blackhawk. I recently notice there is a new book not printed yet, The Big Dakka which focuses on Ufthak Blackhawk again.

Thus, I wanted to know if all of these stories tie up together or are part of a series ?

Hey y'all! I was wondering how common it is for space marine successors to have similar or the same color scheme as their founding chapter? Are blood angel successors often mainly red? Salamander successors green? Etc etc? I really only ever see homebrews and artwork of the successors that look wildly different from their founders, like the Templar, Crimson Fists, and Krakens. Thanks! :)

I personally have lots of trouble with this one. Even though they're indoctrinated as children, tons of SM live for decades, many even live up to centuries. They might start out as children, but they'd have grown in some way, shape, or form mentally speaking. Even if it's just in regards to their ability to fight and strategize, there should be massive improvements.

All shall be unto the Emperor of Mankind of the Far Future, who will lead humanity out of deprevation and morass of the morality.

Star Trek is archetype of the future Federation, as is Dune of the Noble Imperium of the Padishahs. The Solar Confederation unto the Ildiran Empire, and the Hanseatic League of Earth will be the impetus for the war of unto the Noble Imperium, and the prophetic basis of for the prophetic version of Paradise Lost.

::addendum:: Understanding that the video of unto the Emperor of Mankind by Leutin09 is of prophetic origin in scope is part of the awakening of humanity away from pop culture and unto the Space Age and the building of the colonial ships in 5 centuries.

I know the Imperium still colonizes virgin worlds all the time.

Do Chaos humans every do this? Or do they only corrupt existing planets?

Just a stray bundle of thought that passed my mind this day: we know that, in the conversion from Necrontyr to Necrons, memories have been tampered with. We see this with two people having directly contradicting memories of an event-despite their status being they shouldn’t suffer from the memory imperfections of flesh.

Now, if you can falsify a memory like that…who’s to say any of the others are real? That the Necrons were ever anything more than just the Deceiver completely making up backstories for their robot army for shiggles? That the reason they don’t have souls, is because they were never anything more than steel and wire to begin with?

Is there anything that definitively would indicate it’s not the case?

Did he just disappear? Just never brought up again? Is he “dead”?

I know he has a dreadnought fist built in Flammer, but his left arm is always depicted as either a assault cannon or auto cannon .Does he switch weapons ,if not then which one is canon.

Coming from a total outside perspective, from someone who never even came in touch with Warhammer before, the lore behind everything seems massive... and even tho I know literally nothing of the game system nor lore I just love a well build worldsetting to dig into. Which bring me to probably an overasked question...

But where do you even start if you want to get into lore as a total newcomer?

Between books, rule books and miniatures it seems kinda hard to find footing, just because of how gigantic the 40k mountain seems from the outside...

Any guidance would be very appreciated^^'

The Admech and the Imperium refusing to inovate is known both in and out of universe to be one of the main reasons of the stagnation of the Imperium. With their belief that all knowledge was discovered in the past, and thus the only thing you can do is rediscover stuff, as well the killing of those that inovate as tech heretics, it certainly drags the Imperium down.

But besides that justification, and some that even the fans follow, like the inherent risk of making new stuff because of (insert here chaos and ai rebelion), theres a very important and overshadowed: Politics

Knowledge is power, and in the Imperium its hoarded like nothing. People know what those in power are willing to share, you get Inquisitors who dont know anything concrete about major alien races, Rogue Traders that think the Necrons are a myth, Admirals who think Lorgar and Russ were loyalists who fought in Terra and so go on.

Quoting the user Red Flag on Spacebattles:

The Imperium innovates in more mundane manners just fine. It is noted in BFG that in M37, the AdMech perfected and disseminated the method of manufacturing efficient, long-ranged lances, allowing every AdMech Cruiser+ and every Imperial Battlecruiser hull to mount a long-ranged dorsal lance system. When Ryza was attacked by several hundred billion Orks, they quickly innovated things like wall-crawling spidertanks, and tactical virus bombs. The Mercury-class Battlecruiser was designed to meet an admiral's demands for a ship fast enough to chase, and shooty enough to beat down even the most heavily armed pirates.

The Imperium as a whole does not advance in technology because the AdMech acts like monopolistic, medieval guilds. Every Magos tries to hold onto their secrets because exclusive access makes them valuable, and every Forgeworld does the same. When somebody else is innovating, instead of redoubling your own efforts to innovate in order to remain competitive, it's so much easier to just accuse them of heresy and get them suppressed. Technologies are lost when that Magos dies or that Forgeworld is destroyed by an enemy, resulting in the Imperium often being locked in a state of one step forward, one step back, with uneven implementation of its technology.

We see this in other events, like the human sized boarding torpedo from The Carrion Throne and the Ironstrider, in both cases, the creator was killed, but the Admech kept their inventions and put in service once pressure came. Ryza got away with its new weapons because no one will challenge Ryza and its vital knowledge on plasma weaponry, meanwhile the Las Impulsor was lost once thanks to the destruction of the Deuterium Stars, and the Leman Russ Vanquisher no longs can be produced from 0 because the forge of Tigris was taken by the orks.

And of course, we got the Black Templars making a new variant of the Land Raider and dozens of chapters adopting it before the Admech could officialy santify its use. Just like Ryza, no one is challenging the Black Templars.

In a similar note, the reason the Dark Mechanicum dont advances, as its asked from time to time, quoting again Red Flag:

Because they've gone from guildism to warlordism, where the exact same hoarding tendency is even more essential for survival. And because daemons are untrustworthy. Dark Apostle Marduk narrates that his Land Raider which is using daemons as software would eat him if it thought it could get away with it.

I am new to 40K, so if this presents any inconstancies or errors please point then out. I have been reading on STCs and it appears to me everyone assumes the "sum total of human knowledge" they contain; means all the blueprints of everything ever created on all human worlds during the Age of Technology.

That would require an unprecedented level of interconnectedness, basically all STCs would then be communicating at all times using an unknown Archeotech technology. That would explain why when the system went down basically all was lost, for one to be compromised meant all were compromised.

I dont believe that is how they work though, I think they were more like seeds. I think they contained all of our base knowledge, Math, Physics, Chemistry, Etc... and a sophisticated Ai. They probably had blueprints for anything you had developed already, probably for repair or research as needed.

Once you colonized a system though, I think they would scan for materials and start developing blueprints based on what was needed and what material you had already present in the system. That meant that each new colony had its own tech tree and that it was shaped depending on what they encountered.

Is there a aggressive Xeno race around? they would develop better and better weapons.

A peaceful one? they would develop art and other materials to incentivize trade and an exchange of cultures and maybe tech.

Were you alone? maybe you would invest on greater food production and grow your population.

Was there some interesting phenomena around? create a research based society.

Please note that developing in a certain direction didnt meant they would give up on everything else. The AI probably had parameters that It would follow to guarantee that the society prospered and was safe from outside harm. It could automate anything the population didnt want to do themselves after all.

If they worked like this their Ai would have to be extremely advanced and it was probably a really appetizing target for Chaos possession/corruption, That would mean that the Emperor could probably have kept a seed of all human knowledge. But since he can't trust an AI, is unable to spend all his time re-developing new/old tech, and can't replicate the conditions in which said tech was developed, most of it is still lost.

The funny bit is that even if the mechanicus found a complete seed they wouldn't do anything with it, developing new tech is heretek after all.

In that the Emperor of the Far Future fights unto an Ork Warboss. The Emperor and Horus conquer a system “with 9 planets orbiting a yellow star” with its own false emperor, who will say he led humanity through Old Night, of to falsehood, and the invasion of the false imperial palace unto the psychic throne, and the Emperor smiting him through-with the great Bolter.

‘And I saw the New Jerusalem descending from the clouds of Heaven.’

The Apocalypse of Revelation chapter 21, the 1st through 8th verses, describe of the war for the planet and what they will say from their thrones.

There are many others that lay the groundwork for the Horus Heresy, and the book was sold of Barnes & Noble.

I, Matt, wrote this post of this profile of my Father.

How would i make it work? A biomancer who Enhancer his physical abilities himself and drains the enemies blood or something like that? Is it even possible in lore

This seemed a bit too sprawling for the megathread.

My experience with the 40K novels is limited. Had a few questions on the nature of blanks that I'm not sure have ever been explored.

• Are Blanks able to travel on ships? Seems like their abilities would interfere with warp travel even ignoring the Astropaths.
• Blanks cause other humans to feel disgust or nausea because of how they interfere with the unconscious psychic activity that even humans who can't manipulate the warp directly have. Do Blanks feel disgust towards Blanks then? Can they recognize each other?
• On a similar tangent--the animus speculum is described as lethal to anyone. Does that include other blanks? Or it's just most any humans because all humans are inherently psychic? So something like Necrons would also be unbothered?
• Psi-titans. Bit confused on these guys. Are they firing more negative psychic energy somehow, or is this just a psyker-based weapon that requires a blank to pilot for some reason?
• Has there ever been an interaction between a Blank and the Ork Weirdboyz? Do the Blanks just drain them of their accumulated energy?
• Has there been any further exploration of Blanks and the Tyranid Hive Mind since--going by sources--2007?

Don't think this has been mentioned before but...

Had Angron not been implanted with the butcher's nails he would have been a 'psychiatrist' to his brothers and helped them overcome their traumas and insecurities with his empathy.

The Eldar foresaw a costly war against a united humanity inside the webway after a far more successful great crusade. So they put out a hit on Angron when he was just a baby.

It was the single easiest move that would have ensured humanity would never pose a threat to the Eldar.

What do y'all think?

So, a lot of questions done in this sub, as well other places on the internet, normally are repeated questions that fortunally got answer, with lots of users having their own files with saved excerpts to quickly post and answer any doubts.

But in those years, I've noticed that a lot of questions just cant be answered, sometimes not even with the classic "it depends"

Normally, those involve questions for specific hard numbers, "how many planets do x", "how powerful is y", "which faction could o w in z years". In this case, a major reason is the nature of the lore being writen by multiple authors, as well the nature of the setting being in a galactic scale, so questions like "How many x exist in the Imperium" cant be answered, since it would require specific time frames and events, even if, lets say, a Battlefleet Gothic remake say theres 500 million ships in the Imperium, it wont be enough, for countless will be lost and constructed in a single year.

The other questions are unfortunally the result of the setting as primary a war game to sell minatures. Things like general civilian life questions or deep functions of the systems in the setting normally arent answered because the writers never really cared to answer.

How the Tau treat blanks? How they deal with psykers? We dont know, because we got almost no lore on the life of the Tau outside of battle. How does cryptek powers work? The writers dont really bother explaining besides techbable that gives more questions than answers.

Granted, works like the RPGs and the Crime series do help, but we are unlikely to get answer for most non military stuff thanks to how the books are almost always focused on war. We got more lore about the Imperium than all other factions combined, but the vast majority are space marine bolter porn, and thus theres a suprisilling big amount of lore for the Imperium that gets no lore at all.

I should disclaim that the Tau were the first faction I really became familiar with in the lore, so my own views are biased in that direction, but I’ve noticed that the Imperium tends to strongly lean on a dramatic, almost Shakespearean flair. They engage in long-winded speeches about brotherhood and betrayal, the right way to conquer a nation and the wrong way, the pillars of righteousness and loyalty, all the while speaking in a poetic manner.

And then you have the Tau and they’re just like “Hi, we have bread, wanna join the Greater Good?”

It’s honestly a pretty amusing contrast.

Besides Tyberos "the red awake" and Asterion Moloch, are there any chapter masters of unknown origin famous or known in lore?

I ask because two chapter masters of unknown origin who are very well known are Tyberos and Moloch but outside of them two...... no other comes to mind

What is the Horus Heresy novella Omnibus accounting the future Ullanor crusade and the emperor and Horus conquering a system of 9 planets orbiting a yellow star that has its own emperor seated on a psychic throne with invisible warrior guards?

Im currently reading Fulgrim and because im reading other stuff between HH, Im kind of forgeting what happened in which book.

So I would like to know if someone has done a abridged version of each book.

All I can find are shorter lists of what to read with 1 liners of what the books are about.

What I want to remember right now is what EC where doing in the already complied world.

I read on a post that Typhus said to a dying Imperial officer (afflicted with Nurgles blessing), that when he reaches the garden, the officer should tell the daemons that Typhus send him, so that the officer would be treated better. I know that plaguebearers are people who have died from one of Nurgles diseases (or at least made up of the deceased persons soul). Would the plague marines and other worshippers of Nurgle also end up in the garden when they die in some form?

So, if anyone calls me dumb here I'm not going to argue. I'm certain I'm under experienced in lore compared to the average fan here lol

I will acknowledge a couple easy objections. For one, to my knowledge there's contention as to whether or not humanity played much of a role in the creation of the chaos gods at all. The brutality of the medieval age is cited for Khorne, but in reality it's entirely possible that humanity's actions of the time are just a drop in the bucket of what really constituted his creation. So, I am moving forward with the assumption that the conditions of earth are important while acknowledging that they may not be.

Second, I know the current lore begs to differ, but my understanding is that lore is subject to some change. Tzeench was apparently birthed during the Renaissance period, a period of change for humanity. Though I think there's a case to be made that the creation of the internet and similar technologies have brought about far more extreme change, and I think it's be a more fitting period of time. Perhaps the blob of chaos that would be come Tzeench began to take more shape during the Renaissance, and perhaps some in the Enlightenment, but really, truly came to fruition during the information age of today.

Third, I am also a human (definitely not a bored necron that woke up far too early and is insanely bored) from the late 20th century and I am projecting my own perspective here. It could be argued that the coming centuries, and they certainly did the lore, could come with much more drastic changes.

Mainly, I'm looking into the manipulative aspects of the information age: the disinformation. The forces vying for change by pulling strings and presenting the right kinds of information to bring it about. The attempts to mould minds. To me, these forces, and the overall dynamics of the day, feel very reminiscent of the things Tzeench would love.

Anyways, I'm happy to hear any thoughts on this if anyone has any input. Thanks!

Here's a lore question for you all. Where was Garviel Loken born? Is he Terran or Cthonian?