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We know that Verminlords are the greater deamons of the most recently ascendant malignant chaos deity.
Title, i want to learn more abou Sigmar's person himself.
Should i also read "The legend of Sigmar" from fantasy?
Are there any lore snippets about vampires or other undead factions who have aided other factions like the cities of sigmar, or have even fought against their own kind?
Would it even be realistic that a soulblight faction would live inside a city of sigmar and fight alongside athem on the battlefield?
How common would it be for such a thing to happen in shyish, since the dead used to live there alongside the people that settled the realm?
I’ve been a huge fan of the old world for as long as I can remember and then a big fan of 40K as well. Luckily, for those of those who love these settings, there is so much content available for free online. Thousands of wonderful YouTube videos on all of our favorite characters and events, as well as thousands of wiki pages on websites like fandom.com
I finally decided that I would dip my toes in AOS, only to find that these wiki pages are practically empty. To an even greater shock there is like five AOS Lore videos on YouTube.
Is there just no lore to catalog after all these years? is it ignored in favor of the other settings? Or is the lore just not good enough to warrant a decent wiki page and YouTube series?
I’m eager to get into the setting ever since GW unceremoniously butchered fantasy, and 40K moves at a snails pace.
If someone could recommend me AOS books that are good for starting out I’d also appreciate it .
One of my favorite aspects about Age of Sigmar is the creators' willingness to toss the genre conventions of High Fantasy to the winds.
The Lumineth and Gargants, the resident High Elves and Giants, are among the youngest sapient species in the Mortal Realms not the oldest.
The alliance of Humans, Dwarves, and Elves takes the form of dozens or hundreds of cities where all three species live and thrive together, rather than apart, led by multi-species councils.
Another hallmark of High Fantasy is people love alcohol. As are coffee and tea. Interestingly the forms of all three are dometimes types reliant on tech often not available in many settings. But that's neither here nor there as we write what we know and often we don't know the full processes that lead to the creation of this or that, and more oft than not. It's a story, lore is fun but story comes first.
Then there is soda, cola, pop, the soft drink. Often ignored by settings even ones with magitek or regular engineering. So the long preamble aside.
Both Kharadron and the Cities of Sigmar have the technology and industries that could become soda industries as well as large urban populations to support it.
So my question to you dear Realmwalkers. Is what do you think soda in the Mortal Realms would be like? What brews and flavors would Hammerhal Aqsha and Ghyra prefer? Traditionalist Barak-Thryng? Cosmopolitan Brightspear? Stoic Vindicarum? Nature-attuned Living City? Or any others?
-gitmob are not afraid of the sun (Glareface), they want to use its power, because they think that using Glareface's power will weaken him and allow the bad moon to win and establish the everdank.
-gitmob love shiny things, and can't resist taking them.
-gitmob wolves can predict the appearance of the bad moon (and also hate glareface)
-gitmob chariots have Glarefece faces on them, to blind the enemy, and they have bottles hanging behind them, these bottles are filled with various things, which when they break give a nitro boost to the chariots ( for Gitmob boss)
-gitmob mages like to meditate by literally looking at the sun (they think that looking at glareface will allow them to appropriate its power), they have a excellent dayvision, but are completely blind at night, except under the glare of the bad moon, the other grots think they deserve it.
-Gitmob mages regularly eat various foods that are flammable, explosive or just spicy.
-Gitmob mages glow a little on the inside, is this due to their diet, or perhaps an influence from glareface, no-one really knows, what is certain is that it's specific to them, the other grots have tried to reproduce the phenomenon and have all failed.
-gitmob mages get up high on their chariot to be closer to glareface, as a spell they can do all sorts of nasty things like make your inside being your outsideout, or create caustic clouds (note that this is the same kind of cloud as the reaction from the chariot bottles)
-gitmob bosses like to build machines, the more of them, and the bigger they are, the better.
-Gitmob bosses like to build machines, the more of them there are, the bigger they are, the better.
-Gitmob bosses make intensive use of bad moon powder and captured light (not sure if it's Aetherquartz, but don't think so), the bottle is made of it (but not necessarily, they seem to put anything in it) and the clouds that the gitmob shaman creates are inspired by it, the reaction of these 2 components creates an explosive mixture that leaves a mist behind it, anyone who breathes this mist goes completely mad.
-the gitmob steal all shiny metals and melt them down to create their weapons or idols, allowing them to absorb Hysh's light and release it to disorientate the enemy.
-They also like to glue pieces of metal to their charriot for the same reason, however such a process could set fire to the tanks themselves.
-We are told the story of the first Droggz (however my understanding of the narrator's English was not clear enough, so I didn't quite understand, so I'll summarise) ‘he was in Hysh (Ymmetrica) he went to Ashy, he spent his best life until the Necroquake, he was jumped by FEC, he had to go back to the realm gate he came from, and he died (I think Lumineth was there too because one of his possible deaths was that he took an arrow aelf).
However, when they began their conquest of Asqhy Droggz was still at their head, and those who said it wasn't possible because he was dead, had unfortunate incidents’.
-Droggz shield can emit accumulated solar energy, its mass is a piece of meteor he claims is Glareface's tooth.
-the arch in Droggz back is made from killed scinari metal, it was built by gitmob shamans, how did they get the idea? simple Droggz force-fed them Aetherquartz to make them more imaginative, and they built the arch (then their heads exploded)
-Jaggedsnarl comes from Hysh, he's so smart because he's absorbed the light from Hysh... and because he had made his lair under an Enlightenment Engine (GG Teclis you fucked up, again)
-the gitmob have invaded Golvaria (if you've got the BT STD you already knew that) important detail, Golvaria is described as green plains (it doesn't sound that important, but it is to me, sometimes I forget that Ashqy isn't just ‘volcanic desert everywhere’)
-droggz's hideout has so many shiny objects, it literally glows
-Droggz's hideout is supposed to be almost impregnable because (again, I didn't quite understand) ‘chamon mist+hysh light=people die’.
-remember when I said they steal shiny things because they think they're weakening the sun by doing that? well it seems they're not delusional, because it works, gitmob have 2 big bases, the first is Droggz in Ashy, the 2nd in Hysh in Ymmetrica, well the one in Ymmetrica has so many shiny objects that the whole area is constantly stuck in perpetual twilight cause they absorb the light, and Lumineth have no idea how to unbind the thing
- the Gitmob are supposed to be more creative than the other Grot (and it's confirmed that the Grot doesn't love them that much and find them odd but tolerate them)
That's it, I've finished, there's a few things I've forgotten, or that I didn't bother to write down, but I've covered almost everything
sorry if there are any mistakes.
I just goz myslef tahlia vedra and when i build her there were head trophies in her chair. I have not read the book about her (if there is one) but can someone explain it? Ty
Does anyone have any idea?
Does Tzeentch basically have another kind of ship, outside of his 8 remaining Silver Towers?
I love the whole fantasy of flying castles, so I am curious, and I am wondering if we will know more about them, maybe in another AoS edition in Chamon?
I have recently read this short story, and I am left with a few questions. The gist of the story is this: Endrac, an ambitious smuggler from Misthåvn tries to impress his boss by organizing cage fights featuring a live ghoul that he's captured... somewhere. It's never made explicit where he found it, but it's vaguely implied it was in Ghur. The second night of this however, the fights are interrupted by the rest of the Flesh-Eater Court attacking the City which culminates in the arrival of an "impossibly vast shadow" from under the water which swallows the ship with the ghouls on it.
So my questions are:
I'm a big Warhammer Fantasy fan and was very apprehensive to give Age of Sigmar a try. Until I saw the absolutely gorgeous miniatures currently available. I saw Alarith, the mountain spirit and got very curious about the lore. Instead of only diving into the several wiki's or youtube video essays, I decided to just pick up a novel and do some research if I got confused. It's been a good way of diving into the Mortal Realms.
Last week I've finished Yndrasta: The Celestial Spear, and I'm currently reading Children of Teclis, which I'm enjoying so far. I was a bit dissapointed regarding Yndrasta because I felt like, in the end, >!all of it was pointless!<. I'm quite sure that was intentional, but I'd preferred it to have some more lasting impressions.
I feel like Warhammer 40k, Horus Rising and Warhammer Fantasy get a lot more love regarding the novels. A quick glance at Goodreads give most AoS novels somewhere around 3.5 out of 5. So I was wondering, what are your favourite Age of Sigmar novels? What is an absolute classic/must-read that you would recommend and why?
After Children of Teclis, I'm going back to Warhammer Fantasy. Going to read the first Gotrek & Felix! But I'm already on the lookout for what to tackle next :)
So lately I've been scratching together every idoneth short story/novel I can find. Before I'd mostly engaged with the faction via battletomes, campaign books, yknow the overall stuff because the reputation of books like Soulslayer and CootBK made me wary of ever touching the fiction side of the faction. And partly that was justified (Soulslayer hurt to read sometimes but hey, it's a good book overall) but I didn't expect Lotann, of all Aelves, to be the best idoneth character sofar (and I really liked Ubraich). To make clear why I think so, here's my favorite excerpt from Soul Warden.
Context: Lotann just got done being told by the local enclave's guards he has to leave the country because of matters of security. He had requested to jot down all the information stored in the local chorilleum because that's his job, but the local soul warden Annamaras had basically gone "No! That could be used against us". His Namarti escort (whom Annamaras didn't want him to have) informed him that said escort's daughter had died after going to get her soul reinforced which Lotann knows should be extremely rare but has been happening regularly in Ymmerloc. Andso:
Lotann watched her and her guards retreat to the main passage and mount up on their Fangmoras, before closing the door and returning to his chair.
Focusing his frustration into the ethersea around him, he created a swirl of turbulent ripples. They would befuddle the senses of any Scryfish that came too close. ‘Something is happening here,’ he said, spitefully. Mnemesthli detached itself from the door frame and slithered across the ceiling. Its skin shifted from red to neutral grey, and became smooth in texture. ‘Yes, I know. Secrets are not my business,’ Lotann protested. ‘But this clearly involves the enclave’s Namarti, which are my business.’ The Ochtar curled its tentacles beneath it, taking a pensive, meditative pose. ‘ This Annamaras masks something,’ Lotann continued. ‘She only makes paltry efforts to hide it. Concealment by threat – the typical qualities of an overconfident despot. I represent an unknown, hence her censure. But I will not let threats deter me.’ He put a certain venom into his voice. Lotann hated deception and misdirection. Or, more specifically, he hated it when they were directed at him. He looked at the Ochtar, which pulsed between purple and cold blue once more. ‘Yes, yes,’ Lotann said with a sigh. ‘I must approach this calmly.’ He took a deep breath. Mnemesthli descended from the ceiling, settling onto the table before him. It stared directly at him, shifting its skin back to its original colour and complexion. 'I know,’ Lotann said. ‘Be more like you. Your kind are superior, you don’t need to keep reminding me.’ And then Lotann narrowed his eyes, an idea forming. ‘Oh yes… Indeed. So superior.’ He had unwittingly stumbled onto something of a plan. He looked at the Ochtar. In his experience, most other Idoneth thought Mnemesthli to be little more than a soulbond familiar. He gave a thin smile. ‘Mnemesthli? I need you to do something for me.’ The Ochtar stared at him. ‘ I would like you to locate the chorrileum.’ The Ochtar shifted across the table, its skin changing texture and colour to match that of its surroundings. ‘Yes,’ Lotann said. ‘Map it out for me. This Annamaras clearly doesn’t want me inside, which means there must be information hidden within.’ The creature rose from the table and squeezed through one of the vents, exiting the dwelling. Alone again, Lotann leaned back, closed his eyes, and waited once more.
So this is just a very fun excerpt for multiple reasons. First, I think it's great to show that the idoneth do have a warm side to them. They're petty and snobbish and push their feelings deep down but they still care about things beyond themselves. Lotann may be the only idoneth character in the fiction so far (Beside Diolan and maybe Petra, but the latter seemed more concerned with her position than anything else) who is concerned with the Namarti for their sake. Which is neat. Or maybe I vastly misread him. Second, I appreciate that Lotann actually treats Mnemesthil as a person and can communicate reliably with it. I love my xenofiction and the interaction of "humans" and more inhuman beings tickles me fancy. Third, our warden is still a schemer. Even if that doesn't easily to him he can be pretty clever when he's frustrated. And fourth, I like squids having big heads. I just do.
Okay, I know for male Dwarves, a good way to send them into a tizzy is to shave their beards (case in point, the War of the Beard). So what would be the equivalent insult for a female Dawi?
Cut or shave their hair?
In the other systems daemons have to be sustained by feeding off emotions and magics to stay in reality, however does this apply in aos? I ask cause I was watching a video that referenced an old white dwarfs q and a that stated that much like the seraphon daemons can stay indefinitely till their physical forms are destroyed
Hi everyone,
My friend and I were geeking out about zombie apocalypse’s and their themes and we had both started to ask questions about soul wars which i think was the big grandiose plot for 2nd edition.
Mainly after the Necroquake kicked off, the undead had risen across basically everywhere in vast, ceaseless waves.
Now of course Warhammer being Warhammer likes to show us the big picture where billions of armies fight tithes of other billions of armies.
Is there possibly a super small scale view? Maybe like an in human perspective like maybe Call of duty zombies? The walking dead? Paranorman? 28 days later? Or any equivalent of a in human perspective of the endless undead rising in unstoppable tithes?
If not that small is there a book (or books) that show us maybe a smaller battlefield view of how horrific or scary this is from maybe a stormcast perspective.
Almost anything i can read that will make me a little spooked rather than trying to visualize a multi-realm spanning, colossal war would be appreciated.
Since Lord Kroak is of the old world and remembers all that happened. Why does he not bring back the mighty heroes of that time? Gor-Rok, Kroq-Gar, Nakai, Chakax, to name a few. We have no named Saurus champions to get immersed in. Its just generic lords. Im a huge Gor-Rok fan and when the Jaws of Itzl dropped with Kro-Jax, a one to one copy of Gor-Rok I was excited for the miniature but saddened by the lore. Why not just say that Lord Kroak remembered the valiant last stand of Gor-Rok and decides his skills are needed again. Summoning him once more to do battle like he once did. It would have been so great for the old fans to see some of their heroes return. The mini is right there, it could have been Gor-Rok trapped in Emberguard, who then fights himself out of the rubble and returns to Kroaks side or something.
Hello,
I've read a lot of WHFB, 40k and Horus Heresy Books and I want to discover the setting of AOS through books.
I'm french speaking and we don't have access to a lot of english books because only a few are translated and available.
I've got War For the Mortal Realms available to read in french
Would that be a good book (I know it contains several books) to discover to main setting of AOS lore ? The main "plot" ?
Also, I know that the 4ed rulebook explain a lot of the lore.
Would the 4ed rulebook "spoil" some of the events in the book War For The Mortal Realms ? Should I read War for the Mortal Realms before the lore in the 4ed Rulebook ?
Thanks in advance for your responses !
Heyo, to preface this, i have a habit of easily being burned out on books if they drag on too long, therefore audiobooks help a ton. I just finished wardens of the everqueen and so far i am enjoying the realmgate wars, but that is mainly because of select few characters i like. Also, listening to it during work is alright because the endless battles are at least entertaining, and i dont need to pay as much attention to every single detail.
So now i started hammerhal & other stories, and i love the fact that Gardus and others whom i recognize appear, i am invested in them. That being said, after looking up the wiki for the realmgate wars plotline (of things i have listened to, mainly to see how you write character names), some particular stories were neatly summarised in a couple paragraphs, it made me go "damn i could have just read this instead and i wouldn't have missed out on much", and i am questioning how worth it is to push onwards. I've watched a handful of lore recap videos and i kinda know how the realmgate wars will end, and the big plotpoints
Characters i care about are Gardus, Vandus, Thostos and Ionas Cryptborn. Would you suggest i read through them all? Any particular parts of books you recommend for character specific things?
If yes, it would take a lot of effort to drag myself through them, as i can't just put headphones on and do my job while reading
Knowing stormcast cast are mix of Azyrian magic, human soul and Sigmars divinity can they even be corrupted?.
Given how Sigmar doesn't only take the biggest, bravest and purist sould to be stormcast there should be some 'weaknesses them even if it's only due to their soul.
But given Sigmars supposed inmunity/un corruptable nature to chaos does this mean Stormcast cast can not fall?.they are capable of doing bad/evil in the name of the greater good so their humanity and flaws are very much intact.
Trying to write lore for my zteench warband and having trouble where they sould start after leaving the 8 points to aid the forces of zteench in taking chamon. I was thinking of the rusted wastes because it seems that the necroquake has caused it to be devoid of most life. Meaning they won't get picked off by bigger factions easily, but not much info on this land mass compared to other realms.
My first attempt at doing lore on youtube.
Like if someone is onboard with his plan of ultimate sterile necrotopia of death across all the realms and venerate him as a deity with respectful worship and obedience as well as go about the realms unaliving mortals and reaping their souls for him, are there good things that come from him? Does he listen to the loyal and respectful followers and help and protect and give deathly blessings to them?
Hi all, been reading through the Gotrek books starting from troll slayer in chronological order. Just finished soul slayer and I’m wondering what’s next? Can’t seem to find tje next book.
Greetings and Salutations Gate Seekers and Lore Pilgrims, and welcome to yet another "No Stupid Questions" thread
Do you have something you want to discuss something or had a question, but don't want to make an entire post for it?
Then feel free to strike up the discussion or ask the question here
In this thread, you can ask anything about AoS (or even WHFB) lore, the fluff, characters, background, and other AoS things.
Community members are encouraged to be helpful and to provide sources and links that can aid new, curious, and returning Lore Pilgrims
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-Ask "What If/Who would win" scenarios.
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-Real-world politics.
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Remember to be kind and that everyone started out new, even you.
I don't really know if it's new or not, but I find it really interesting that in the new Battletome, it is made quite clear that the Orruks aren't only devoted to Gorkamorka/Gork or Mork, but a wide variety of entities. There seem to be a really large range of "gods" that the Warclans revere, that I'd class as follow :
Overall, I find it neat that the BT confirms that the orruks aren't a monoculture (well, two monocultures) but really a multitude of tribes with their own customs, but that all worship Gorkamorka and thus have a lot more in common between themselves than with anyone else.
Just finished the reading the slave to darkness battletome and GW really gave Archaon the "I am not a god" complex💀 Dude is riding a dragon with the heads of three greater demons, is wielding a flaming sword, can see in a future, commands entire legion of demons, can send omens, has many other powers and can pretty much kill every god of the 8 realms in a 1vs1. BUT somehow is suprised and annoyed by the fact that many races of the realms are seeing him as a chaos god. Even in the Varanguard some sees him as a divine being (the 8th circle). Bro if you don’t want to be perceived as a god stop behaving like one idk😭
Completely random question out of nowhere from caffeinated gremlin-brain Mutt. But what cities, note lack of upper case, have public transit of this type?
From the 3E Corebook we know Vindicarum has ancient high tech railways around them they are trying to repair. The Kharadron Battletomes lightly reference trains now and then. While "Soulbound: Blackened Earth" shows Greywater Fastness has some weird railways, including rotating super cannons to menace the local woodlands.
But what other places would these sorts of vehicles make sense to be in?
Are they even able to do things such as work with the storm cast eternals or even the Idoneth deepkin to solve their problems?
Also where is Nagash? Do his artifacts exist? Do his other aspects still exist? Can the ossiarchs build a vessel for him, like a statue that Nagash can occupy with enough magic or something? Did the novel children of teclis imply that he is permasealed?
I recently read the short story where Malekith and Morathi are talking in her tower in har kuron after Nagash was defeated by Teclis, and I have now drank the koolaid on the idea of the Umbraneth/Ulgurothi being on the tabletop someday.
While I wait for that to never happen, I would like to know as much as I can about Malekith/Malerions legions of Dark elves. I know that they have allies in the form of shadow daemons from one of the moons of ulgu, but that’s really it. Are they like the dark elves from watch fantasy? What do they look like? Do they have any relation to the darkling covens? how do they fight? What’s their end goal? How are they different from the daughters of Khaine?