For some Nihilistic, the experience of life — seeing it how it really is — brings pain with it. I would like to know, if I may ask, what specifically keeps you in this cycle. When you wake up, what exactly motivate your mind for you to take action?

I am not talking about biological necessities, by the way.

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For those who may not be familiar with this position or what it is, error theory is basically a stance particularly within the philosophy of morality, which argues there are no objective moral facts. You could call it moral skepticism.

The common argument: "Why do you adhere to conventional moral obligations if you don't accept the idea of objective morality. Why don't you just do whatever you want?"

The answer is actually pretty simple. Rejecting objective moral truths doesn't mean i HAVE to do whatever i want. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Morality is actually useful, within the context of humanity's survival.

Moral beliefs may have evolved to foster cooperation within groups, even if they lack objective grounding. This was done for the purposes of survival. Mother nature's job is to keep us alive no matter the cost. So it definitely makes sense why we would develop emotions then go on to develop moral compasses, among many other things. Emotions are an evolutionary trait. They exist for a reason.

It's with modern conveniences that human beings can afford to be oblivious to their primitive nature. I heard someone the other day talk about getting rid of his emotions. That's like wanting getting rid of your brain and still expecting to have conscious thought. People love overcomplicating things for no reason. Learn to regulate your emotions. That's the problem. People who complain about their emotions have a highly dysregulated internal environment to the point they want to get rid of their emotions altogether because the pain is unbearable. Take a break from everything and work on yourself.

Getting back to the topic at hand, i have an issue with so called realists who get to represent us on the world stage. They don't do a very good job at representing our philosophies, whether it's nihilism or error theory. There are just so many deficiencies that really do not need to exist. So we keep playing cat and mouse and going around in circles unnecessarily.

Don't get me wrong, nobody is responsible for the education of another grown adult. But if you're going to represent a philosophy or ideology, do so effectively and correctly, otherwise you're just ruining it for the rest of us. Now we have to clear up misconceptions and misinterpretations.

"Religious nihilism" typically looks like:~ "This world is just a test for the next world". Death isn't a big deal as long as the religious people manage to personally check off specific boxes in how they behave.

The greater environment of this planet and how to make it best for everyone isn't important. If some people die, God will judge them and if they did the right things they go to the right place. If not.. that's their own fault.

We don't need to worry about climate change or enforcing patterns that mitigate the spread of diseases.. all that matters is that we follow the couple of commandments that Jesus said are important and get our own ticket to see heaven.

It's nihilistic in its abandon of the natural world and the idea that humans are of nature or part of the natural world.

I was a nihilist for a long time, and the viewpoint that there is no meaning, value, or purpose in life is wrong...

Hear me out.

The simple fact that we are alive, on this planet, in this universe, at this current point in time, should be enough proof that there is SOMETHING deeper than what we "think" or "see".

I don't believe in the traditional idea of God. Meaning, some dude with a white beard and white hair just chilling somewhere in the universe. That's a bunch of bull.

I do, however, think that there is something larger out there. My personal opinion?

The universe itself is alive. It has to be... If you've looked into quantum observation.

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Quantum Superposition: Particles like electrons can exist in multiple states (e.g., different locations) simultaneously until they are observed or measured.

• Double-Slit Experiment:
  • If unobserved, particles passing through two slits create an interference pattern, suggesting they behave like waves and pass through both slits simultaneously.
• Observer Effect: The act of observing or measuring a quantum system affects its state.
• Quantum Entanglement: Related but distinct, it involves particles that become linked such that the state of one immediately influences the state of the other, even across vast distances.

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Quantum particles have to "process" and "decide" what happens to them. They don't just move "randomly".

While this doesn't directly confirm that the universe is alive, it confirms that the universe is "processing" reality.

Whatever that "processor" is, that is God.

What is that exactly?

I have no fucking idea.

Dealing with a breakup. Found out that the man I really love up to til now doesn’t love me the same way I do.

He doesn’t feel any remorse or feel any sadness. This is my 3rd failed relationship. I’m starting to think I’m the problem, I’m broken.

Maybe my presence doesnt matter in this world, everything is temporary, so will be the pain from the people who I’ve hurt if I die.

Nothing matters. Why live a life that you’ve never asked for. The whole world is stupid.

I new to all of these. I was a theist, but then became atheist. Life is meaningless, everything is determined, we are nothing special, we are here because of the evolution etc, these thoughts came to my mind. I thought every atheist think that way. However, then recently, I found out existentialism, nihilism, absurdism.
I don't think I am existentialist, as I don't believe there is no meaning. But what gives me pain that nihilism and absurdism. As I have mentioned, I don't believe in any of them, but I also don't think I have to be sad or happy about it. If everything is meaningless, then negative emotions are meaningless too. "As nothing matters, so why bother. Live however you like" its my motto. Now, its aligned with optimistic nihilism i guess. However, I pretty often see that many post about absurdism which has similar idea. Its like, both of them are about meaningless of life, but absurdist enjoy life, nihilist don't. Now, I am confused between optimistic nihilism and absurdism.

Imagine that it is an interdisciplinary program, pulling from Philosophy, Theory, Film, Art, Literature, etc. etc. What would you want to see included? Not only thinkers who identify themselves as nihilists, but artists whose work encapsulates a nihilistic & dark aesthetic (Zdzislaw Beksinski for example).

I mean, I think the universe is valueless and all values are subjective.

But I still love my values and I live for them, they give me purpose.

Am I a nihilist?

I just see the depressing part. I don't feel there's any use experiencing anything is i isolate

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Hey I'm new to this sub and I'm really curious how did you find out and when.

The reason why i am asking is that growing up I was taught that life is a blessing because we get to experience amazing things and what not. That's a common belief in my culture. Nihilism is not very popular within my culture but i think it will be in the future since the younger generation of Mexican Americans are becoming less religious and i guess religion is a reason why Nihilism is not as popular. The vast majority are catholic and non denomination Christian Most Nihilists i know are Atheists, agnostic or deists. Most Nihilists i know are white and some east Asian. I have met only 2 Mexican American Nihilists so far. And yes i know you can be a nihilist regardless of your ethnic culture and your up bringing

Has anyone read it? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on it.

Ecclesiastes 2:1–2 (ESV): 2 I said in my heart, “Come now, I will test you with pleasure; enjoy yourself.” But behold, this also was vanity. 2 I said of laughter, “It is mad,” and of pleasure, “What use is it?”

Do you all think that existence is eternal?

To me, it only makes sense logically that existence itself must exist, forever. There can't be total nonexistence, existence axiomatically proves and supports itself.

It may just be me playing with words, but nonexistence can't exist on its own. There's a concept of nonexistence we can abstract, but total nonexistence can't be a thing, especially since its evident that existence exists already.

This kinda fucks with my person's psyche and mental wellbeing, since it rids me of any resonating desire. I'll die and whatever's next is next. Fate is sealed, whatever happens between now and then is whatever to me. Let me live a great life, let me live a terrible one, its one of infinite and a single experience among countless. Let my life be a necessary evil if it must be, I'll accept.

I've reached a contentment in things where I don't actually care about anything and I'm just watching myself happen. I of course still have emotional responses and reactions to varied provocations, but nothing sticks with me. I feel unable to push myself, as I don't want to, as I see no reason to do so.

If existence is eternal and my consciousness is a property within reality, then once I die I'd assume I'll be off to the next recollection, wherever or whatever that may be. Maybe one moment I'll reach a final line of awareness that never ends, unlike our transient lives, and in that I could relax.

I am a 33 yr old male delving Into nietzsche and satre and and a ex jehovah witness and finally trying to break free of organized religion.

I don't want to end up giving bad advice on a topic like this so maybe experts can help. I am copy pasting the msgs he sent me.
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"Accha here's the short version- 2022 te I went through an episode of psychosis. Amr interests are literature, philosophy ar poetry. I read and think a lot and don't talk much. I religiously read Franz Kafka.

Here's some insight about me as a person first- I believe speech is simply a tool to manipulate others perceptions of you and it is very easy to control how society views you if you know how to use that tool correctly. Ekhon kotha hoilo a knife is a tool that is very useful in everyday life just like language but it can also be a weapon if you choose to use it that way. So I don't talk much and pretty much always talk in metaphors. I control information. When I open my mouth I think about what information should I plant in this person so it may benefit me with getting what I want or making things happen they way I want it to.

Now comes the short version of my situation- I got insulted in public at a family event and My cousins who always liked to introduce themselves as my blood related siblings did not stand up for me. Not only that, I was then treated with absolute silence and ignorance when I tried a direct confrontation. I asked multiple times for a "family shalishi/intervention" but that did not happen karon apparently everyone was "worried" about me. My words were quickly dismissed.

What they don't know about me is that I have NEVER in my life shyed away from a confrontation despite the fact that I am EXTREAMLY introverted and have always had anxiety. But the kind of side eyes I was given and the fact that NOBODY stood up for me including my own father was simply the last straw. I knew then and there I had no friends in this family. Zero. So I decided to hurt them. Something that them and their children and their grand children will never forget and I will make sure everyone who has even remotely heard of me knows it and affected by it.

So I started smoking a lot of pot/marijuana with doors open, I used my pen holder as an ashtray. Evidence blatantly lying everywhere. I only talked in metaphors. I posted on my facebook that I got in Harvard University, said a bunch of weird fucking stuff to a lot of people(I always liked confusing others its entertaining)

For example- I said "Dad examine my eyes. I wanto to know what I'm seeing is real or not". Told my friends I can see through walls and everything, when I look down I see Hell and when I look up, I see Heaven. Nothing exists in-between. So my dad I don't know on whose advice took to to an eye hospital. Doctor showed me small letters and asked me if I can see them or not. Then he declared my eyes were fine I don't need glasses. I asked him to scan my brain as well but didn't do it bc he doesn't exactly have any money. I decided to put him on the spot..

Anyway, ultimately I was admitted to a substance abuse related mental institute called Niramoy, Babor Road. Doctor was not even present during my admission, first time he saw me was after 7 days of medication and he did not ask anything about me or give me more than 5-7 minutes of talking time. The very first time this guy saw me he asked me why I hated Rabindronath Tagore and tried to strike up an intellectual debate. like that's of any concern to me. Imagine the things going through my head and he want to argue on why I believe a translation work should not deserve a noble prize- with a week long medically silenced brain dead zombie. He dismissed anything I said and very professionally prescribed the correct medicine.

I wonder if he feels a sense of superiority doing that. No, I know he does. I understand why. It's called the "suffering from success disease".

Anyway, I was not even told I was being admitted there or for how long I may be there for when I left home in a car. Even criminals who go to jail gets to know how many months or years they have to spend there. I was even more pissed about this. I resolved to get out of there as fast as possible and see my plan through to the end. And I know for a fact I can do it. I have MULTIPLE excuses now and they're pretty damn good ones.

Finally I do not exactly know je amar diagnosis ki karon nobody really told me clearly even to this date. I had to find that out myself by searching the names of the medicines he was prescribing me. The medicine basically made me slurr and I was incapable of formulating speech or writing.

This continued for a solid year and a half even after I got out of there. here's what I "supposedly" have according to medicine descriptions on google-

Phychosis
OCD
Chronic depression
Adhd
Bipolar
Schizophrenia
Perkinsons
Anxeity
Nymphomania
Anorexia
Schizoeffective disorder
Phobia
Neurodevelopment disorder
Paranoia
Substance related disorder

The medicine list is at least 3 times longer than this but I do not want to defame a doctors name in the field by speaking more. He is as good in his profession as clueless he is about me. Most things he knows about me comes from my family's word so you know how that works. I tried getting personality disorder in that list too. told a friend on discord that my first name is one person and last name is a different person. Tried to imply we are two different people living in one body. But nobody tried giving any therapy for that. Nobody even mentioned it including my doctor. I understand why. They got scared or they saw business. but it had the effect I wanted. it made everyone extremely cautious about trying not to make me angry so they had to watch out what they say in a conversation.

I kind of did that to keep anybody from my student life out of my way. It was my intention to weird them out karon I did not want to hear them babbling advice on things they know nothing about or maybe I was afraid they may successfully change my mind. if I really do explain my situation. I do not want that.

Recently a psychology expert talked with me and said he wants to take an IQ test.

So ami full family jimmi koire rakhsi right now using my mental issues as the center of authority. Things have gotten pretty ugly and I am almost finally at the climax of this Eid er natok. Now that I am done experimenting with my actual immediate family, I am ready to move on to my targets. Amar "apon bhai bon" and tader husbands der dakte bolsi. ek room e boshay I will fucking talk. amke je insult krsilo he won't be present but tar wife re ekta genuine death threat dibo about him (I live in Mohammadpur from birth in the same hood so believe me when I say I do know people who will beat him up near his own house or office anytime I want for the right price. It's one Bkash transaction away). I will declare to others that their social life reputation and careers are over bc I am coming for you.

I am dying to see if anyone dares to take me on. Their only option would be to let it happen or fucking submit. Whatever they choose neither path is going to be pretty and has no happy end for anybody involved I promise you that. Also I'm never going to kms although it's a constant thought living rent free in my head. But I tell myself thats what brave pathetic bokachodas do. I might be a pathetic "brainless" bokachoda but I am not that brave fortunately.

Now my question is do you think I should start taking ocd medicine and maybe it will make me stop this obsessive rampage I have been on and still have the strength to continue after two years? Will it calm me down or distract me from trying to get what I want? The answer is No."

I get what I want. One way or another. through either skill or expression manipulation. I always have

I'm hoping to discuss this concept. I tend to erroneously assume that my knowledge is common sense. And this leads to people thinking that I speak in a condescending manner, I totally understand, because I wrongfully assume the person listening knows what I'm saying.

Example: car engine. I understand the principles of internal combustion, many people don't. So when someone asks me why their car won't start, I start explaining why, in a mechanical/scientific way, and forget that they may have no clue what I'm talking about. They just wanted help starting their car.

Why the Nihilism sub? Well, it seems when we finally understand that things don't have an intrinsic or objective meaning, it compromises the foundation of belief systems and ideologies, and consequently, may close the door to potential friendships due to others thinking Nihilism is "closed-minded," when it's quite the contrary.

Has anyone here dealt with this? How do you approach if you approach at all?

I want to be Emotionless

Since we have no choice but to exist in this world, I'd rather become psychologically nothing, void of emotions and ego.

All the evils of the world are inspired by anger, lust and greed. Whether in the human or animal kingdom.

Emotions are messy and impractical.

They say emotion bring meaning to life but there is no meaning in the universe. Everything is impermanent even if your whole life was full of joys and wealth you would lose it all one day.

If we can not remove our existence from this world full of suffering and pain, we can commit to eradicate our self, psychologically!

I am going to practice this state of emotionless neutral existence for 3 months and journal it here!

This is not to attack nihilism. I'd ask the same question on an existentialist or absurdist thread.

Most nihilists have at least done a good job of saying, "I'm going to question the meaning that so many seem to believe in without question." Good--you should.

I'm wondering how many of you actually say to yourself, "What if I'm missing something? What if I'm missing a few puzzle pieces that render the jigsaw incomplete?"

This really boils down to epistemology. How do you know that you know?

small talk is good. little distractions from the mundanity of daily life. sharing feelings & experiences is explicitly the best form of connection we’re all entitled too. I keep the truth to myself? would it be humiliating to say “I don’t know! I really don’t feel good or bad” any time someone asks me how I am doing ? must I feel good or bad ? what if I’m doing bad , should I complain ? why, I’m not in need of an outlet, help, or anything, so why is this neutral negativity grounds for concern? in raw honesty I am empathetic & intrigued by all emotions , except paranoia / anxiety really are the hardest to understand & deal with. the rest of the spectrum grounds me deeply, I’m an emotional person. Anger is a chance to train your response mechanism , for example.

I am fond of people & I love it when we’re unemotionally just real with each other, because in this way, I believe we cover more truth, bias awareness & trust. it seems it’s not socially acceptable to truthfully embrace the spectrum, I didn’t act out when I was a kid unless I was throwing a fit, but I look back & feel condemned by my dads side of the family for being quiet & still. when I opened up on any topics , it was met with silence , almost like my 14 year old depressive introspection was so disturbing it was better left alone. i deeply feel for others that may not have had real company when they were younger , so I like to be the person I needed when I was younger. isolation is good until you don’t have a choice, so it’s beneficial to me as well to listen to others when they’re ready to be real about life. I don’t have interest in a prolonged conversation about how we can possibly “gain control” over the trajectory of life but I do celebrate visualization & willpower in satire if possible. I’m deeply disappointed in most people who are quick to dismiss others in wake of differences or lack of understanding. why is it so common for people to be disgusted when you take off the mask ?

I dont know why im even posting here, it seems every time i do it gets removed. I dont know why my thoughts are existential and scary AF to me. Im going to give it a try anyway and see if anyone else thinks this and is weirded out about it and life ........... ( Ignore this part, i copied and pasted it from existentialism .... which still hasnt approved it)

It seems every year one person i know dies and then we go on with our lives like its never going to happen to us, its like OH well they died, that sucks, but what can ya do im still alive gotta keep on livin...

Ever so slowly ive lost grand parents, a parent, a brother , several friends.... time passed and they died of something. And i know its going to happen to people that are still alive , in a few years 3 or 4 people who i talk to everyday could be dead and ill be all alone, still trying to make it to the next day until im dead eventually

I dont get life, im scared ...... wake up watch tv eat sleep, over and over , over and over over and over, until boom dead..... whats the point

Sorry for bad english im american

Hey guys, i am studying philosophy and we got task to write essay about some philosophical topic, and i chose that one in title, i am having problems to find some good scientific sources so i thought that ill ask you guys here, i prefer to have it in english but any language that could be translated will be alright. Thank you in advance for your help!

Hindu monk Swami Vivekanand wrote in a book that meditation allowed him to reach a mental state where he could no longer experience the physical body. This freed him from sufferings.

Do you think such meditation practice is worth seeking? We no longer need to be afraid of being unemployed or starvation or need a capsule/euthnasia. In many countries euthnasia is not allowed if you are physically well.

Life is just a chain of chemical reactions that with its interactions with the environment leads to the creation of a similar but a bit different chain of chemical reactions which it in its turn with its interactions with the environment also lead to the creation of a similar but a bit different chain of chemical reactions and so on and so on.

As in the long term every time a group of chains of chemical reactions happen to face a new bit different environment, the ones that are bit different from their brothers in a way that leads to that their interactions with the new environment lead to them managing to survive and somewhere in the future with their interactions with the environment create a similar but a bit different chain of chemical reactions do so and those of the group that are a bit different from their brothers in a way that their interactions with the new environment lead to that they will stop performing the biological processes needed for them to survive (in humans its the heart stop beating, in more simple creatures it's probably some other necessary function stop happening) before managing to create a similar but a bit different chain of chemical reactions with their interactions with the environment don't do so.

And sadly instead proceed to perform interactions with the environment that end up with their body getting dissolved into the ground and eaten by worms before managing to create a similar but a bit different chain of chemical reactions.

Change my mind, there is nothing magical or miraculous about life, all we perceive as unnatural or miraculous is just science that we don't fully understand yet. There is no meaning for life because there is no purpose for life, just reason.

And the reason life was created here on earth is rather quite disappointing or at least not as sexy as most people hope when they think about this "cosmic" unanswered question.

you can read about abiogenesis, about experiments that proved that organic molecules can be created in nature in the conditions that were in earth atmosphere 3.7 to 4 billion years ago or in the extreme and unique conditions that are in hydrothermal vents in the bottom of the ocean and read about the constant progress and current leading theories in this field.

And right you must say, well even if biomolecules such as amino acids can be created in nature in the conditions that were in earth at the beginning of its history, that doesn’t make sense in the creation of a really complicated cell structure that enabled the beginning of evolution. In order to achieve that you need that a very particular very long series of different biomolecules will connect to each other in a very very very complicated way in order to create RNA chain, enzyme that will replicate it, couple other essential things for cell and membrane that will protect the cell from the outside environment, even in the most basic hypothetical primitive RNA based cell. The odds for that to happen spontaneously in the primordial soup that was here on earth in the beginning of its life or in any other environment in which “organic” molecules are just spontaneously created is extremely unlikely.

Well to that i answer to you that you are right the odds are extremely unlikely but given the fact that those reactions happen in very small scales (molecules are measured in angstroms which equal to tenth of a nanometer which in itself is a billionth of a meter), and given the fact that they happen very very fast (for example the amount of organic matter that is estimated to be created in the foam of breaking waves- which is another quite new theory for the origin of life is approximately 10¹⁰ organic molecules per cm² per second) and given the fact that there are alot of potentially habitable planets out there (the number i found in articles in the internet ranges from few billions to 50 sextillion) and in each planet there is alot of matter for those extremely tiny and extremely fast reactions to happen in (since planets are really big, especially compared to molecules and cells) and since each of those planets probably exist for billions of years it’s only logical to assume that in some of those planets in some moment of their history (or even moments) all the right molecules needed for the creation of an extremely complicated self sustaining self replicating very basic primitive cell will “miraculously” be created just in the right time and just in the right order and just in the right place in order to create a cell. Same as it is only logical to assume that someone will probably win hundreds of times in the lottery even tho it’s in general extremely unlikely if he will buy billions of tickets

The truth is there is no purpose nor meaning for the creation of this chain of chemical reactions called life. just basic physical, chemical reasons.

Those reasons are uncolorful and clear exactly as the reasons why certain elements react one way with ones and different way with others and why certain atoms interact with each other one way or other.

All you need to do is just learn and read (and maybe do some research for the small unknown yet part if it's important enough for you) about this stuff and you will soon realize that the answer to every "unown" question is probably just explanation why the rules of nature or physics lead to that to happen. even your brain and consciousness, that you very possibly (or at least most people) perceive as something incredible that couldn't possibly be fully explained by science, all you gotta do is just wait a couple decades and soon probably someone will find a clear (although complicated) explanation for that.

Even the biggest question of all time as what was in the beginning of it all, how could something emerge from nothing or how could something exist for ever? probably the answer for that will just be a long ass physical equation, more probably a whole new area in quantum physics that very smart people will explain to us how it just changes the entire way we think about matter and about what is "existing" and not "existing", about how matter operates in very small scales and that will probably make sense in how can something emerge from nothing or how can something exist for ever, our new understanding of the universe, existence and physics will simply allow that.

The thing is that it already allows that and we just don't understand how yet but the fact is that our world already exist and since every other problem of this sort in our history was solved by science explaining the logic behind those seemingly unnatural things i think it only logical to assume that this will also be the case with this big seemingly miraculous or unnatural and unable to answer cosmic question. Not some almighty all laws of physics and biology defies invisible human like entity that we kept associating with those things over and over during history and over and over again was proved to not stand behind those than seemingly unnatural miraculous problems.

What standed behind the rain that people used to pray to the gods for, sacrifice their best lambs and calves for, was not any sacrifices demanding entity but rather dry reasons about how temperature, wind and your proximity to the ocean or mountains will determine how much it will rain in your land.

What standed behind the healing from the illnesses wasn't the gods that people used to shed waterfalls of tears for in prayers and begging in hope for cure for their sick but rather the simple facts if you did or didn't make sure to rest, regulate your body temperature, eat enough and maybe get some external help in the form of medicines from doctors who didn't put their faith in prayers but rather in actions and inventions.

People that will try to hang on this last thread of the yet not fully explained origin of the universe and the yet not fully explained origin of life their beliefs that the universe might have some sort of a designing creator or that life might really be this magical thing that only an intelligent cosmic interfering being could create, will almost certainly soon, and all the odds are against them based on history will face the cold truth that every believer faced, face or will face in the future.

Now based on that you could say if you agree or don't agree with me, i will be happy to hear opinions. But just you know in the chance you think like me, that there is nothing miraculous about life or the universe, it's just simple laws and rules, rules of physics, chemistry, biology, nature or whatever.

If you think like that also I want you to tell me what your opinions are about life and about what you want to do with them given those unsexy but sadly most probably true truths.

The conclusion I came to is that if life has no purpose, just reason because of how the world and matter works, then it isn't important in particular, in the meaning of after life or goal for life or the obligation to live productive and meaningful life if anything happens. Like if I die young or die old, if I marry and have kids or not or if I am a moral and good person or not. in the sense of in the greater scale or rather long term considering this hypothetical thing called afterlife or day of judgment (that obviously don't exist).

But thinking about what matters for me, there are things that i prefer to happen and things i prefer not to happen, and things i want to do in certain times and things i don't want to do but that's because i'm a creation of evolution, my mind is, my body is, my consciousness is and my personality is. my ambitions are and my fears are. every aspect of my being is the creation of evolution meaning i was created this way because two chains of chemical reactions called my parents evolved through genetic mutations to be what they were and they were lucky (or actually not so lucky, most people get to manage to survive enough time in order to reproduce at the part of the world where they were from, and actually at most of the places in the world probably now that i think about it) to be among the ones of their group that were similar but a bit different from their siblings in a way that the interactions that they performed with the environment led to them managing to create a similar but a bit different chain of chemical reactions called me before getting eaten by worms (just to clarify they are still alive they just haven't thankfully got to that phase yet).

Now because as I mentioned due to how evolution and genetic mutations work I'm similar to and only a bit different from my parents, a thing that is supposed to and does help me survive in an environment similar to this my parents lived in. Now due to that i have all the ambitions and needs of a mammal specifically ape, more specifically homosapien and also the big brain of a homosapien that seems to be able to perceive things with its body's five senses and react to situations with the environment in different ways based on the information it receives through those senses. It also seems to have the ability to "remember" most of those sensations in different intensities and access them whenever it want to and even easily perform on a momently basis various complex processes of association, reasoning and deduction between those "memories" in order to come to "conclusions" and decide what to do at any given moment.

Now sorry for all the yapping, that got out of hand but basically what I'm trying to say is that I came to the conclusion after a long process of trying to find out what I want to do in life giving my specific beliefs that I simply want to do what my body wants to do. Simple as that because at the end of the day I am just my body, nothing more and nothing less.

Now because of evolution my body evolved to want to do the things that when my parents happend to want to do them they performed interactions with the environment that led to them surviving. Meaning my body evolved to want to do the things that I in general need to do in order to survive.

More than that my body evoloved to do the most efficient thing for him to survive since for most of Human history food wasn't that certain all the time as it is today hence the need to save energy for the future where in the close days or weeks you might not stumble across enough food as you stumbled so far and therefore energy saving could have been crucial in this case.

From here also stems laziness in my opinion, postponing things until you have to do them probably not once saved people energy that might would have been crucial later on by making them not do certain things that might later on they would have discover they didn't really needed to do because they would have encounter more efficient way to achieve what they want or the problem they encountered in the first place would have been solved.

From here also stems the fact that even while believing in my philosophy you still would be a moral person in my opinion. From here and from the fact that we evoloved to be deterred from doing things that will cause us harm, even in the long term (as long as this harm is assured). And since morality is just objectively more energy efficient and causes less harm in the long term to all the people that participate in it i think we simply would want to be moral persons (weather or not we belive in a religion or meaning for life that will make us not want to hurt other people), i do at least.

As i said, in my opinion morality is just objectively more beneficial for the survival of each individual that participate in it. That's i would add only in an environment where resources aren't extremely limited until your own survival couldn't be promised unless you will take what belongs to the other or hurt him to better your own position.

morality in my opinion is more beneficial for the survival of each individual that participate in it in an environment where resources aren't extremely limited since it saves each individual the risk of being hurt and suffering physical traumas as a result of fights and it saves each person the energy and resources spending that he would have had to spend to defend himself from attacks from other people to take his own resources and fruits of hard work. Since if you would try to hurt other people to help your own chances of survival or try to take their belongings to use them they would do the same to you. And all those fights just risk all of the people in the society a lot, make them spend more energy to defend themselves from other people's attacks that in many cases far outweigh the energy they would have spent if they would have invest in living of their own hard work and eliminates pretty much the possibility of trade and as a result of that more efficient and better society for each individual that participate in it because of lack of trust.

As a part of that (evolution in general) my body evoloved to perform certain hormonal reactions that cause me to want stuff here and not want stuff there. It made me "want" to eat food when I need something to produce energy from and want to go to sleep during night or when I'm exhausted because that's apparently something that my body needs in order to support certain essential brain functions. And even if i don't "want" at the moment to go to sleep but rather do other thing that my body evolved to want to do such as gaining various experiences and observe as many situations that might be helpful for me one day in the future while spending minimum energy which basically make me want to watch tv shows and play videogames- my body evolved to if it once already did it and stayed up till late and it ended up with it having a headache and suffering the next morning, or if it did in the past other things that gave it short term enjoyment but hurted it in the long term to remember those experiences and connect them with the similar situation that it faces and as a result of that, although most of the times after some sort of "risk management" and pushing it, "want" to go to sleep not so late cause of repulsion and remembering of the pain that doing similar act like this caused him in the past and will most likely happen to it again if it will proceed to play video games and not go to sleep.

Now it's right that we are a little bit more complex than just craves and fears and needs that we want and dangers that we hate. We have brain and "free choice" but basically your free choice is not really a free choice, your choice will be determined by what you want and what you want is determined by though very complicated natural chemical, hormonal biological processes that you don't have choice at because you were born with them.

Now there is the question of why live if life were just created by laws of nature and not for some purpose? After all life for most people even tho consisting an undeniable amount of joy and pleasant moments, even most of life is pleasant I would say, also consist not few moments of suffer and if there is no harm in dying then why live through all those moments of suffer? for what? why not end your life in a rather not so painful way instead of going through many inconvenient and from time to time even painful experiences on a daily basis for nothing?

Well basically (and please read till the end) you will live if you will want to live and kill yourself if you will want to kill yourself. But in my opinion you won't want to kill yourself unless you will encounter a situation in which the only choice will be between death in not so painful way or an extremely painful experience such as touture or severe excruciating illness that can't be healed.

In situations of most normal life where the choice will be between death or the everyday hardships and occasional suffering i think every person would want to live. Because my own experience proved me that we have like this basic like enjoyment that we get from simply doing things that will keep us alive and it's something we don't really notice and like take for granted but i think you only notice it either when you do like things that you don't really want to do and that hurt you in the long term or when you do things that will prevent you from living (aka trying killing yourself) and basically it's not that suicide is not really logical in first glance if you think about ending your life as a way to cuase less painful events if life is meaningless because at first glance it is what it does but people don't really take into consider the fact that even the painful events of life are actually something you eveloved to enjoy from doing if it's something that your body like knows that you like absolutely like need to do in order to survive, and of course they are still a bit painful but at the end of the day if you notice they are like pretty ok or there is something that makes you want to do them and basically that is the thing i think about as this like basic level of dopamine or enjoyment that you get from doing anything that you like need to do in order to survive and basically because there is enjoyment in continuing living, of course in the moments of enjoyment or even just rest that your body eveloved to want to do them and enjoy from but even in the less pleasent moments of life such as the moments of inconvinence and suffer that to be fair most people confront every day- you basically won't want to kill yourself even if it will be like really not that painful or even not painful at all, at least in my opinion/experience because you simply eveloved to want and enjoy from doing what you need to survive and simply even tho you obviously didn't evelove to like be deterd from things that might end your life in a second if they are unpainful (im referring to certain technological advancments that we have today that makes us able to kill ourselves if we want without much pain) you just simply didn't evolve to want to do them, like you don't get this basic level of enjoyment from doing them because those are things that lead you to not living. So even though they are not painful (killing yourself) they are just not enjoyable and because of that you don't want to do them when given the chance to choose between them and the “painful” option of continuing living because that option gives you this certain basic level of enjoyment. So even if nihilists like me will have the option to just push a button and cease to exist i at least and i think other also won't push it, not because they don't wanna die but rather because they just like living and currently at least it has more dopamine in it, in resting let's assume than in raising your hand and pushing a button for something you simply didn't evolve to want to do (to end your life). So yes, this is my take. I would like to hear your opinions. Sorry in advance for the bad English, English is not my first language.

Was written by IY and published via reddit in various subreddits on Tuesday Nov 19th 2024 at around 6:30 pm eastern time.