I have been trying to find the point of life for years now, but nothing could keep me going, as I didn't find meaning and happiness in anything: money, respect, women, consumables, family, nature, training, etc. Nothing gave me a reason to live, which led me to become pro-mortalist-minded. However, one year ago, I discovered antinatalism, and it helped me find my purpose: to spread antinatalism and prevent people from bringing more innocent souls into this 'meat grinder hell hole' we call Earth. I'm even trying to become an entrepreneur so I can pay people to get vasectomies.

How is mostly everyone scared of losing jobs to AI in the present moment/near future but the thought of reproducing still stays intact in their mind like magically will there be more jobs to fill for their children 20-25 years down the line? These are the same people who will judge their kids for not getting a decent job/getting laid off because they didn't work hard enough. Just putting this thought out here because I haven't seen anyone here giving the AI argument for being AN.

Found this gem while scrolling

Obviously people associate sex with procreation and this is why this sub exists.

But do people see sex as a pleasure?

I see it as a pleasure, my mission to have sex is to experience the pleasure of sex. I do not want kids because of reasons so I do not see sex in the same way.

My opinions on sex obviously will not be the same as others. I feel sex as a tool for pleasure should not be restricted to only one person at a time. Sex is to me an activity to give me pleasure. Sim racing in VR also gives me pleasure and that's why I do it but not obviously in the same way.

I guess my view sees sex as a positive activity to enjoy sensibly.

Because ideas are not born in womb. The ideas do not spread by genes. Just like gnosticism was not completely wiped out over the course of two thousand years, no matter how hard they tried to burn scriptures, torture and kill heretics. And yet, we still found their teachings and some people follow again. Ironically, those were antinatalists too. And see? We are still existing. There is no antinatalism gene to make it die out. That applies to other phenomena, that they think, they can breed out.
This is such a simple fact, yet so hard to accept.

Life itself is inherently unfulfilling because if we have nothing else to do we become bored. People cope with drink, drugs, and many other forms of coping which shows how existence is inherently unfulfilling and we need to constantly distract ourselves to make it tolerable. If life itself was inherently fulfilling, we wouldn’t get bored and we would have no need of all these coping mechanisms.

I know several couples that would love to start a family but have decided not to due to the state of the world, and its ever increasing population. This is so sad and there’s no way out of it either. Eight billion, and nine, and then ten. There will be a point in future history when everything will come crashing down when nature retaliates against humans’ neverending desire to grow and conquer and against their shameless encroachment on parts of the earth that are best left alone and untouched by human influences. Sadly, reproduction is easy and it’s always the most worthless people who bring children into this world like an assembly line. In a nutshell, there’s no hope and the best I could do is stay childless myself and live out the rest of my life trying to minimise the pain to the best of my ability. Everything else is beyond my control and I’ll soon be gone anyway. And I’ll leave this world alone, on my own, knowing I’ll have prevented further suffering by staying childless for the entirety of my time here on earth.

Just wanted to say that I’m really glad I came across this subreddit. I got into a heated discussion with my husband yesterday and I felt like I was a bad or crazy person for feeling the way I do.

I am childfree by choice and was sterilized a few years ago (not having a uterus is absolutely amazing by the way). I was raised Mormon (left almost 15 years ago) and I’ve always felt like there was something wrong with me for not wanting to have children and feeling like it was unethical to do so.

I’m so gratified that there are other people who feel like me.

I used to be such a happy person. Everything was so easy. Not a care in the world. Since I came of age, though, I've been so worried about bringing a child into this world. Because my body is capable of it. I've been troubled by it and in distress and emotional pain for almost 20 years now. I've been trying to open up, to be the person that I used to be, and I used to be a child myself. I'm not a child anymore. But I'm not ready to have my own child yet, either. The possibility of parenthood is something I'll have to live with until I draw my last breath. And to be frank, everything else, every other worry in life, pales in comparison. Or so it seems.

Getting cancer. Going homeless. Losing my job. Suffering life altering injuries. Having dementia. Dying a slow and painful death. And I'll still be thankful for my decision to stay childless for the sake of my unborn child. My misery is mine and will always be mine. No one else is involved, and definitely not my child, whom I choose not to bring into this world to suffer and experience the same or even more excruciating, unbearable pain. I will live out the rest of my life in misery, but I'm happier than ever, knowing it ends with me and there'll be no more.

I thought you would enjoy something to share on your social media today for a bit of healthy activism: have a nice and antinatalist Halloween, everyone!

Note to the mods: please note that this is a comic strip (kinda), not a meme (I know memes are on Mondays only) :)

Under a spider clinging to its web, a Halloween pumpkin reminds you that Halloween is nothing compared to the horrors of real life, and a qr code redirects you to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinatalism

I am genuinely confused about this. We have condoms. We have birth control.

I saw this one video on Instagram where it showed this young couple. The beginning of the video showed them pre-children and they were very happy looking.

The second half of the video showed them with 3 kids (5 years later) and the father looked absolutely miserable and way fatter. I couldn't tell what the mom looked like because her face was blocked. How do you have an accident 3 times?!

I should clarify that the video was made by the couple's friend, who said that the father said he will never have kids. So the friend was showing us how the father ended up contradicting himself 3 times over.

Before anyone starts commenting "They planned that, there's no way, they have a breeding kink" There are plenty of couples who have a bunch of accident kids. I'm just saying though, how do these people allow accidents to even happen. It's like setting your cup full of juice on the very edge of the table every time you put it down. You can put the cup on the center to avoid it falling in the floor but noooooooo.

I always thought eraserhead was about the fear of having a child. But now as I think about more it feels like it's a film about the grotesquity and horror of creating new life. Especially that scene with the bloody turkey. I'd love to hear y'all's thoughts.

Will it spread, die out, or remain the same? The thought about it fascinates me

My purpose on this earth is to work and die or follow the norm and raise a kid and then work and die. I have no need to work or struggle to wake up had I been aborted as a fetus. I would have saved so much time if I was aborted.

Women of this subreddit, what are your opinions on egg donation? For some context egg donation can pay 5k-20k a month depending on what state you are donating in. Obviously this sub is against forcing people into existence, but we also live in a world were it is very difficult to afford basic necessities. What are your opinions on this as women?

Since coming across antinatalism, I noticed many people believe it's immoral to have children because of the horrible and dystopian world we created. No child should be forced to exist and suffer through school and eventually the adult world right?

Is there an ideal world that you would consider morally okay to bring a child into or do you think it's immoral to force someone to exist full stop?

When I say an "ideal world", I don't mean some utopian fantasy world where there is zero suffering, but something more realistic where suffering is minimal and all humans are equal?

Would the world be okay?

I think about it believing other aspects.

Personally I think it would prevent some aspects as well as helping.

Not to tell you some kids would require parents who actually care a dang about them which I believe most people don't have in today's world, which helps too. Suffering because of the people being neglectful could be as well prevented here. What you guys believe?

I've never wanted to have kids but increasingly more so now that I've been diagnosed with a chronic illness. I have POTs and my cardiologist is suspecting Ehlers Danlos (which is highly genetic). I personally think it's cruel to pass a chronic illness or disability to a child but apparently a lot of people disagree.

I work with this guy that I generally get along with, but he's recently given me some uncomfortable insight into his life. For example, he says that he has five kids, three of them daughters. He has mentioned this repeatedly, but never has said anything about his kids except what they number. He has further said that he would have twenty, thirty kids if he could. I have no idea how he could afford the kids he has as we do not work in a cheap region, he does not make much more than me, and I could not imagine raising a kid on my income (he asked me what I spend my money on if I don't and will never have kids.)

He also described how one time he found that his SO was apparently taking birth control. He thought at first it was about balancing her hormones, but when she said that no she didn't want children, he dumped her birth control in the toilet. I admit I'm not sure if that qualifies as abusive, and I can concede he had a point that this should be a thing they talked about, but fuck, I can also admit that if that's how he'll admit he reacted in an anecdote meant to portray him as the voice of reason, I can easily imagine him being the kind of spouse where it would be a fearsome prospect to admit you don't want to add to his kid count.

Fyi the child lived. I also saw a video of an infant that was left in a box in an alley in India. It was a mangled mess, still letting out little exhausted cries. All I could think while watching was.. "And people really believe there's a god watching..." Smh

I just listened to a random podcast about third trimester abortions and how people don't feel ready or discover late the child will suffer lifetime disability due to limits of diagnostic capabilities.

Why force these parents to have the child? It's not like pro-lifer/natalists will help them after the kids are born. What's the morality in forcing both the children and parents to suffer for life?

I am very annoyed why married couples feel the need to have kids even if they aren't meant to be parents. Is it pressure? The world could use less kids nowadays.. we are overpopulated and killing our planet so maybe Thanos did have a good idea in making 50% of the population disappear. When I'm married I'm definitely not having kids.

I’m a 28f and after working for several years in childcare, I do not understand why most people actively make a choice to reproduce. When I first chose this career, I was excited to teach little ones and make a difference in their lives. Unfortunately, nobody actually warns you about the mental and emotional distress that comes with working with children.

Imagine being brought into this world without your consent, you build a bond with your parents, and due to the shit state of the world, wind up in a daycare because both your parents have to work full-time. Do you get to control which daycare your parents choose? (And in all honestly, most parents don’t actually get a choice, they have to take whichever daycare has available space because they have to go to work)

So now, for the first developmental years of your life, you are given to a random person who can’t even provide one-on-one bonding time because they have to support other children too! There’s also no guarantee the employees will treat your child properly. (I have seen some things from other staff members that just make me shake my head)

Not only that, but I felt like most of these parents didn’t even like their children. Obviously they loved them, but they didn’t like spending time with them? The place I worked was open 6am-6pm. There were several children (all between the ages of 2.5-5) dropped off as soon as the centre opened, and picked up right at closing. I understand work circumstances/commute might account for the additional time left at daycare, but there’s no way every single one of those parents worked ridiculous hours. In addition to long hours, these children experienced behaviour problems from being overstimulated all day in a room full of other screaming/crying kids.

And I want to be clear that not every family is like this, and others do the best they can with what they have… but I guess my question is, why are people having kids if they don’t want to spend time with them/can’t spend time with them? I personally do not see the benefit of incurring the extra cost of childcare in that situation. I’m interested to hear what everyone thinks, or if anyone has any experiences to share. :)

Why am I not having kids.