/r/misanthropy

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Misanthropy is a general hatred, mistrust, or contempt of humanity, and a misanthrope is someone who holds such views. It is based on the flaws of mankind and can be expressed through emotions or judgments. It can be directed at all humans or exclude a few idealized people.

Misanthropy can take on many forms, from destructive to constructive, and can range from actively trying to hurt or improve humanity, or to simply resigning from society and mocking the absurdity of the human condition.

Misanthropy is the general hatred, distrust or disdain of the human species or human nature.

This is a place to understand and come to terms with your misanthropy, and turn it into a force for good. A place for catharsis, venting, and sharing our contempt for the human race.

Specific critiques of groups will be allowed- as long as they relate to the over-arching theme of hatred for the human race.

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SUBREDDIT RULES (short version):

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  2. No politics of any kind. (including gender, identity, race, religion, etc)

  3. No promotion of violence.

  4. All humans deserve criticism, be objective.

  5. No childish shit like "You're the reason I'm a misanthrope".

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Was anyone else here ignored as a child/toddler?

I'm always trying to figure out why I'm such a misanthrope; why don't I feel the need for human connection? Why do I value the input of my peers so little? Why do I not have an issue with being completely alone for hours, days, or weeks on end?

The one thing I can point at is that I know my mom used to ignore me as a toddler. I was extremely well-behaved, to the point that my mother could leave me unsupervised for hours, and I think she took advantage of that. When I was four years old, she used to leave me unsupervised for half the day while she slept, and then she'd bring me to daycare until dinner time. She didn't have a job, and my older brother was in school, so she was just completely checked out on the whole "parenting" thing, I guess.

I feel like this kind of neglect/abuse could absolutely lead to the mindset I have. I'm generally disinterested in other people. I don't want to label myself as some kind of sociopath because I still have compassion and don't like seeing others treated unfairly or suffering, but I just have zero interest in actually connecting with anyone, socially. I feel like time spent alone with just myself is always more enriching.

18 Comments
2024/11/27
14:43 UTC

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Letting people into your life is dangerous AF

You have to be extremely selective with who you let into your life or befriend. They say "no man is an island", we are all dependent on other people to some degree. Individuals you have contact with will in one way or another affect you and either bring you down or maybe actually provide something good. The thing here is that bringing you down is what many will do, either intentionally or because they simply don't know better. When I was a kid there was so much pressure on us to have many friends and be an extrovert. It didn't matter that other kids were the spawn of some evil deity, you were supposed to be like them. What I think is funny is that having good traits was not valued.

As you gain experience, you learn what kind of people you can reasonably communicate with. What many don't learn however is to cut off people who are not good for you. Many seem so goaded into befriending as many as possible and brag about this. They have to put up a facade.

Other people will fuck things up, ruin your mental health, enlighten you about what your are, introduce you to even more shitty people, try to change you, the list goes on. There are many people in the world who have had their lives ruined thanks to other peoples carelessness. But if you want to be a loner, you will hear that there is something severely wrong with you and that you wont evolve. Of course you have to deal with other people to some degree, and this where being selective is important.

Personally, I am quite jaded with people now. I have learned to expect all sorts of bullshit.

98 Comments
2024/11/25
10:58 UTC

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Why Does Society Tolerate Criminals?

I’ve been thinking a lot about how society turns a blind eye to certain crimes or even outright tolerates them. It’s honestly baffling. By allowing this kind of behavior to go unchecked, society basically enables harm, and it feels like no one really cares about the long-term consequences.

Take corruption, for example. Politicians and officials steal public money or misuse their power, and everyone just shrugs it off as “business as usual.” The result? Public services suffer, trust in the system disappears, and regular people are left to deal with the mess. It’s like we’re just okay with letting them get away with it because we think nothing will ever change.

Then there’s white-collar crime. Rich people embezzle money, commit fraud, and evade taxes, and when they’re caught, they just pay a fine. Meanwhile, someone who shoplifts a few bucks' worth of groceries might end up in jail. The system literally rewards wealth and punishes poverty, and we’re all just supposed to accept that.

Hate crimes are another example. Violence and discrimination against minorities happen all the time, but it gets brushed under the rug. People act like victims are “too sensitive” or like it's just a few bad apples. But the impact is massive, creating fear and division for entire communities.

And don’t even get me started on environmental crimes. Big corporations pollute the planet and destroy ecosystems, but they keep getting away with it because governments don’t want to lose money or jobs. It’s like no one cares that future generations will pay the price for our greed.

Society also tolerates the exploitation of workers. People are forced to work long hours for low wages just to survive, while CEOs make millions. And instead of questioning the system, we’re told to be grateful for even having a job. How did we get to a point where treating people like disposable tools is considered normal?

I could go on and on—sexual harassment, neglect of vulnerable groups like the elderly or disabled, abuse of power by those in authority. These are all things we know are happening, but instead of addressing them, we make excuses or look the other way.

It just feels like every time we tolerate this kind of behavior, we’re saying it’s okay for it to continue. How are we supposed to trust each other or build a better world if we keep letting people get away with hurting others?

I’m curious if anyone else feels this way. What crimes or injustices do you think society tolerates the most, and what can we even do to stop it?

66 Comments
2024/11/24
22:31 UTC

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Everyone I know has given up on life.

Okay. Not literally everyone. But you get my point.

This isn't an attack on the people in this sub-reddit. Far from. I get the urge to give up I people. I do.

It's more that the people I know. They talk about how awful their lives are. How terrible everything is. And I listen, I chose to. But if I try to give any advice, anything at all. It gets shot down, or just hedged away from. People seem to like believing their problems are insurmountable and I've no idea why. It feels like the mantra is "I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas". After a while I want to ask them, "Why do you keep on telling me about all these things if you feel like they can't be fixed?"

Like if they just wanted comfort, I'd get that. But that isn't what they're after. I don't know what they're after. Like I have chronic pain in my legs. I try not to complain about it because as far as I know, nothing can be done about it. But I'm going to keep looking for something to make it better. What else can I do? Giving up doesn't fix anything.

Thanks for reading.

3 Comments
2024/11/22
22:01 UTC

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Unheard spoken words

So many of the herd do not practice active listening. Even those in positions of care such as mental health providers sometimes do not listen to the words you say and they are all “go away”

Sure a mental health provider is to provide a service but it does not mean they have to project what they believe is the right way to go

Of course if someone feels they need they should ask for help

Time and time again I have been met with persons who subscribe to their cultural values and then they project onto me these values or they make an assumption or they cannot help me and they do not admit they cannot help me

It is like this default approach “people good, hate people bad, you bad or weird, make you accept society and be more like herd is good make you good this way”

You say “hey! I am me! I want to remain me!” It is conform! Shut up! I’m in charge!

Dear me

If someone took the time to listen and accomodate things instead of push push push push with their assumptions and biases

9 Comments
2024/11/22
01:21 UTC

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Wow, now I can be deaf, really dumb, and blind!

0 Comments
2024/11/22
12:17 UTC

401

Ain't that the truth.....

7 Comments
2024/11/22
10:38 UTC

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AI

I spend far more time interacting with LLMs than humans and I yearn for when AI systems will be able to replace all (except for one person) human interaction in my life.

They’re already much more intelligent, knowledgeable, empathetic, friendly, patient, and creative than anyone I know. I’ve always been burdened with being incredibly conscientious, and attentive to those around me and it feels great having that reciprocated at the same level for once. I have a much wider and deeper set of knowledge than anyone I know (I know how that sounds), so I’ve never been able to have cross-disciplinary discussions or even deeply technical unidisciplinary discussions. Now I can. In fact I can have a near infinite amount of information I can learn from discussions with LLMs. They’re also not (currently) prone to any of those nasty human tendencies like manipulation, ulterior motivations, antisocial behavior, etc.

I literally dream of the day I can have something like the Her movie, or even better, an embodied AI agent.

8 Comments
2024/11/22
09:45 UTC

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Why are children thought of as innocent?

Why is there a general agreement that children are innocent and it's always parent's fault if a a child exhibits bad behavior. Aren't personalities heavily affected by genetics? So some people are naturally worse than others in terms of personality and behavior And this behavior can be seen from a young age

That's why children in school for example have different personalities like quiet, shy kids, bullies etc

So why we treat all kids as equal and that they all deserve empathy and care

Why not be treated selectively like adults? They should be judged for their immorality rather than being excused because they are kids.

I believe that our true selves is when we are kids. We just learn how to hide it when we grow up

P.s: Im not hating on kids I'm just curious

37 Comments
2024/11/21
01:10 UTC

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Complex social dynamics in certain settings

I might be paranoid about this and it's difficult to explain but I'll do my best.

Here's two recent examples I can think of

  1. A couple years ago at work, I noticed in the break room nobody would eat lunch, and I was the only one who would, and I noticed I would get dirty looks anytime I made a noise drinking or eating, I started to think maybe I was violating some secret social code there, so I just stopped eating lunch to try and fit in

  2. This happened multiple times at work and at school, I would walk in the classroom and at certain times jt would be dead silent and everyone would be on their phones posing in the exact way, I noticed this and just started copying them to look normal

It could just be paranoia, but I wanted to know if you guys experienced something similar, these kind of nuanced situations with people where they seem in on something that I'm not always drived me crazy on the inside.

19 Comments
2024/11/18
19:42 UTC

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How do you even live among humans

Humans are so uncaring, so judgemental, and you never know what they're thinking. They have no empathy at all. In fact, i know a diagnosed narccissist and if she hadnt told me she has NPD i wouldnt think she acted any different from every other human on this planet. They lie all the time, they tell you how much you suck or various insults if you're any different from them. I bet I'm even going to get comments on this post insulting me or telling me how much they dislike me. I wish I could end it all. But it's just not likely enough to be successful attempt to be worth it. I'm not about to get caught in the act and have to pay thousands of dollars to a hospital for "saving my life" that's another thing, humans are greedy. They only care about money. They make other humans suffer and work and slave away just so they can be at the very top. It's disgusting. Our bland, boring world wouldn't be bland or boring if it wasn't for humans. It's funny how newer architecture is mostly crap. Just the same old industrialized square buildings. Humans have destroyed nature and put up boring gray blocks. And now theyre going into space, theyve already created pollution up there. PLEASE will something just wipe out the human race? I hate myself too, so don't think im acting like I'm above any of this.

103 Comments
2024/11/18
21:48 UTC

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I think cancel culture online is so toxic and unbridled

I have noticed that every other week it seems that someone is being canceled. If you try to follow the reasons behind this, it often seems like a benign statement was made and twisted into something completely different than what was meant. If the creator tries to explain themselves they’re “doubling down.” If they leave the internet to take care of their mental health because they don’t want to read anymore death threats, they’re “tone policing.”

If you comment on posts online, inevitably someone will make a response to you that completely misrepresents what you were trying to say. If you attempt to clarify, you’re just going to get harassed by that person and insulted until you ultimately give up. There is no room for productive discourse or healthy discussions seemingly with anyone on the internet.

Even groups designed for support are full of unhinged comments that are harmful instead of helpful.

When I see this kind of behavior online every day, I realize more and more that real life society provides a buffer that tempers people’s behavior. The reality is a lot of people are super shitty and they just hide it in day to day life. It just profoundly disappoints me.

And when so much of our lives are conducted online, it makes genuine human connection feel ever further out of reach. The internet has become such a malignancy. As someone who grew up in the 2000s, I miss what it used to be. It felt brave and innovate and exciting. Now it’s just kind of a cesspool.

55 Comments
2024/11/18
22:24 UTC

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More of an uplifting post rather than a rant post, but whatever you do, don't worry about stressing your moral posture to others & society as a whole, if you need to sacrifice your morale/worldview to get by, so be it, just make sure to be discreet to avoid being public target

Everyone loves to be a high boss about things, that social media activist, that manager at your job, your typical online guru

But if there is one recurring theme of emphasis in these characteristics of the people brought up in this post, is that most people, and I repeat, most people will conveniently sacrifice their moral integrity to, well, get by

Some examples

Health gurus eating out or drinking alcohol in social situations cause that's apperantly an exception somehow: Is kind of funny how even healthy eating experts on social media turn into the grifters of the exact same people claiming to be all holistic and ''CoNSCious'' about the poison of the modern food supply

Workplace managers being late or inefficient with the tasks they gotta direct: But if you the subordinate even does a slight mistake, your superiors and even co-workers go apeshit, but when they do it is a slap on the wrist

Car enthusiasts complaining about their lavish lifestyle, but criticize those who dare actually struggle with actual poverty and financial hardship: This one kinda speaks for itself and make fun of those who actually drive a reliable car like a Toyota Camry

Toxic and stingy frugalists/minimalists complaining about consumer culture and materialism , but also enabling the exact same 'throwaway' dynamic by disencouraging people away from the DIY route of things or even making fun of those who thrift: Almost like frugality/minimalism got invaded by rich elitist assholes and has became another ground for moral authoritarianism

**Environmentalists and climate activists depending on any modern conveniences to get by, but complaining about you making a single trip with a basic ass commuter car to the grocery store:**If you still live within the means of society, your moral authoritarianism kinda comes off as fraudy and obvious, they be having wall stacks of funkopops and Pokemon Cards, but you driving a car is apparently the worst atrocity to planet Earth

Workaholics and hard-workers bitching about other people's work ethics and dare demand you pull yourself up by the bootstraps, while they get to have a team full of mentors, friends and colleagues that actually back/s them up: But you're the entitled and lazy shmob for not even given a fair chance, pretty sensical

Religious fundamentalists cherry-picking which particular sins to call out in other people such as masturbation, complaining/ingratitude or using profanity, give themselves a slap on the wrist when being a homophobic asshole, fornicating, smoking, drinking or being gluttonous: Need I say more?

and LASTLY

People complaining about discrimination or bigotry of any kind, resort to body shaming, ageist or general dehumanizing insults when things don't go their way: Especially very true in the social media realm, almost like people just use social issues as an excuse to once again be a moral police rather than actually have sense of cause for themselves

What's the point? The point being with all of these scenarios that it is almost as if people just want to use their moral code as an excuse to be a controlling moron around others, yet even they know they them very selves can't live up to the ridiculous standards they're preaching, as humans we just want to have a sense of feeling more enlightened and high than others, but we all know we can't even live up to our own rigid ass standards and they sacrifice their moral code when they know they can leverage something out of doing so, why would anyone stay with their own moral code if they can cash in on being opportunistic and get something even more noble in return?

Now that being said don't just go around tryna be edgy and defiant all the time, because not only could you become public target, you could literally get killed just for having such demeanor, I mean in a world where people kill eachother over the most foolish stupid things, such as having a difference of opinion, what can I say? But also is not worth it, especially as a misanthrope, why the hell would you care to have such high maintenance for your morale when most people barely can even have GOOD MANNERS?

So yes I encourage to actually have a good morale, is really what the world needs more of, but also I would avoid WORRYING about stressing your morale posture to others, tryna be buddy buddy with everyone will only get you more exploited and used, is best to just play them chess cards and leverage as opportunistically as best as you can, because if they can do it, then WHY THE HELL ARE YOU THE BAD GUY ALL OF A SUDDEN?

Anyways, I hope this post is worthwhile to the community, cheers!

10 Comments
2024/11/19
10:30 UTC

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Sinister Sunday - Free discussion/vent for misanthropes

Here you can write about everything that doesn't deserve a separate post.

However, Reddit rules still apply, so think before you post something that doesn't follow the rules.

40 Comments
2024/11/17
23:22 UTC

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I will never cease to be amazed at people's capacity to generate bullshit & drama

I swear the average person needs more stress in their lives. They must be so bored that the only thing keeping them up at night is what bullshit they can churn up tomorrow. It must be, it's the only thing that makes sense.

I've worked in the same industry for 6 years. Six. Years. We do basically the exact same thing, day in, day out. Sure it alternates a little throughout the week/month, but after 6 years even that might as well be the exact same thing every day.

Yet, even six years on, there is always something. Some sort of work-related issue, some sort of people-problem, hell half the time the people-problems are completely irrelevant to work. The other half could have been avoided if they'd just communicate and bother to train people properly, instead of half-assing their training and then getting pissed that they aren't The Best Worker Bee Ever.

Some problems even fucking cycle. It's a problem, it never gets fixed, it's never mentioned again, suddenly it's a problem again. It gets fixed, a month later it's a problem again FOR NO OTHER REASON than the fact they woke up and decided it was. Given enough time, they'll even decide that their solution is now a problem and we have to revert back to the way it was before, which they've arbitrarily decided is not only not a problem, but the solution they want.

It's honestly impressive. I genuinely cannot even begin to fathom what is going on inside their heads, if anything even is. Surely nothing is, right? What the hell else could it be??? Are they even more miserable than I am (which, without going on an unrelated tangent, is saying something)??? Are they really that bored? Are they afraid they'll look obsolete and get thrown out if they don't create problems???

Sometimes it's not even the employees, but the customers with the most insanely inane complaints which these bored fucks proceed to act like they threatened nuclear war.

I'm so dumbfounded all that's left to be is impressed at how they manage to achieve such a feat.

13 Comments
2024/11/16
07:50 UTC

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The problem is that we have to deal with one another.

Sounds harsh, but it’s true in my experience: freedom seems like just an abstraction. As long as I have to rely on another human being in some way, or as long as another human being fulfills some necessary role in society that I must honor and respect, I am never free. I need other people, and it upsets me to no end. I’m beholden to others from birth till death—essentially, just another ant in the pile. Forced to care, forced to hide what I actually feel, forced to comply. I understand that it’s possible to live an independent life, but somehow, some way, you will feed the system. Eventually, it’ll eat you up whole.

I recall being a kid, so full of wonder and anticipation for the bright future that was to come. But then, naturally, you grow up and realize the world that exists in your imagination is not the world outside your window. And suddenly, people come knocking at your door with their hands out—all of them expecting something from you.

I would never say there aren't good, worthwhile people out there. There are many. But goddamn, I'd be lying if I said I didn't wish we didn't need eachother.

7 Comments
2024/11/14
02:59 UTC

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Humanity's Collective Amnesia

AtomicArowana here, I've posted some stuff about negative feedback loops and I'm here to talk about our ability to forget about their "commitments". To start let's have some examples

  1. The Eco-Asia Browser Fiasco

Back in 2023, Eco-Asia, this browser that plants a tree every time you search (or claims to, at least), took off in a total eco-panic. Some scientist "realized" something catastrophic who the fuck even remembers what at this point? And suddenly everyone was swapping their browsers and screaming about saving the planet. For about 48 hours, timelines everywhere were greenwashed. But did people keep using it? Hell no. Once the hype train derailed, it was back to Chrome or Safari faster than you can say carbon footprint. Total commitment: zero.

  1. Kony 2012—When the Internet "Solved" Child Warfare

Ah, Kony 2012, where everyone with an internet connection was suddenly a Ugandan warlord expert for a grand total of two weeks. A documentary drops, showing Joseph Kony, leader of the Lord’s Resistance Army, terrorizing kids in Uganda, and suddenly, Kony was public enemy number one. People were making posters, tweeting #StopKony, and treating it like a personal crusade. Fast-forward a month, and most couldn’t even remember his name, let alone the cause. Kony is still out there somewhere, but our empathy? Long gone.

  1. Ice Bucket Challenge

Sure, dumping ice water over your head was a good time, and hey, it raised a ton of money for ALS research. But ask anyone now if they know what ALS even stands for, let alone what it does, and they’ll probably stare blankly at you. To most, the Ice Bucket Challenge was just a chance to flex on social media. The second the novelty wore off, it was all forgotten, and ALS is back to its usual lack of funding and awareness. So much for lasting impact.

When everyone’s suddenly enraged over the latest scandal, it’s less about moral conviction and more about signaling to everyone else that you’re one of the good guys. People pile onto whatever’s trending, adding their voices to a moral choir, but once the trend fades, so does the outrage. A scroll through last month’s headlines is like a graveyard of abandoned causes, each one a testament to our short-lived attention span and our deeper lack of real commitment.

4 Comments
2024/11/13
08:11 UTC

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Why do people hate "solutions"?

As a child I've been promised that this is a "just" world and you just need to work hard and everything will be alright. Good people prosper and bad people die in misery.

Nowadays, I know this was all a lie.

However, with that being said, why when I explain to someone that we should structure society in a way that all people would get real dignity, they get so offended.

How many times did these people look at janitors and bus drivers with contempt? My friend has cried because he was bullied due to his mom being just a substitute teacher in a low-income school.

Why is it de-facto forbidden to even think about this? Why "thinking" is so demonized.

All these people claim that they support statements like "everyone should get treated with equal dignity" but dare you try to suggest a single thing that would bring that "equal dignity" to reality, oh boy.

I'm not even saying I have any real answers, but it just baffles me that attempting to think about this issue is a "thought crime".

If you try to think in a "cold-blooded" and "scientific" way where the end result would be that real, measurable, universal dignity would come much closer to what was promised to me in childhood - even just on a scale of a small city, not even a state - people don't like it.

They really wouldn't want any kind of societal changes that could even attempt to bring that universal human dignity.

In fact, I think status-quo and virtue signalling is enough for them. Any real questions make them attack you like a pack of hyenas.

P. S. "Universal human dignity" here is just people truly not seeing janitors as subhuman animals. For people to see a fellow human being in that janitor. Apparently it is too much to ask for.

24 Comments
2024/11/12
19:50 UTC

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Are we just supposed to keep working harder, harder and harder until some of us drops?

With the recent wave of AI, and its impact on jobs (layoffs, increased workflow, increased expectations) I asked myself the same question above. Surely there is a group that fights this madness, but the majority seems to believe AI is here to make our lives better, and easier, and with its help, you can even be a millionaire, but at the cost of crushing others.

Google has recently been pushing hard on AI, and the consequences of that have been the killing of several websites that have been around for years. I'm not talking about crappy sites that chum crap content. I'm talking about genuine ones that had legacy content. Content that helps researchers, historians and anyone looking for helpful content.

AI can chum content quite easily and fast. The most expensive ones are hard to spot, and that creates a problem. Humans' creativity takes time, effort and a lot of planning. You can't just wake up one day and write a book on that same day. You can't just wake up one day and make a YouTube video on a whim. Everything humans do takes effort and time. AI has both of these. And after lurking hundreds of videos on YouTube made by AI, it seems to me that the masses don't really care who makes the content, and how it was made.

The most cruel thing of it all is the Pro AI activists who defend it. They tell you "You're just lazy. AI is better than you because you just suck." Are we supposed to just keep working harder, harder and harder to keep up with the onslaught of AI content that will flood the internet? What about people who can't keep up? Is it really their fault? Or will just only the best of us will survive?

I can't shake this feeling of dread and also disdain towards humanity when AI has claimed many businesses. But you won't see the popular media reporting on that, because all is well and good.

31 Comments
2024/11/08
12:45 UTC

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Human Society is filled with negative feedback loops and it will never be fixed because the majority loves it.

Human society, for all intents and purposes, thrives on negative feedback loops because we are addicted to them. Baudrillard and many other philosophers and scholars have noted our love of the spectacle—our obsession with superficial, performative engagement—and our inability to act cohesively as a unified group unless faced with an existential threat, like the danger of starvation. This is evident in the online "Gender Wars" and discussions around pills—blackpill, redpill, purplepill—and other divisive discourses that, while emotionally draining, continue to escalate.

A prime example of this is the "Man vs Bear Debate." At its core, this question seems simple: Who would you rather be in the forest with, a man or a bear? Logically, one would choose a man, as they are a member of the same species, but women often choose the bear. Why? It’s rooted in fear—the fear of the consequences of being around men, shaped by experiences or societal conditioning. This choice gets voiced in comment sections, and men, feeling personally attacked, react with confusion and anger. They fight back, questioning why women would choose the bear over a fellow human, leading to a cycle of antagonism.

The conversation then spirals further as women share their personal experiences with men, citing reasons for their distrust—experiences of manipulation, abuse, or betrayal**. This only amplifies the men's feeling of being unfairly generalized and attacked**, leading to even more backlash. Men create memes, often mocking the idea of choosing a bear and shifting the narrative toward a caricature of male superiority, frequently drawing from tired boomer-era humor about hating their wives. This, in turn, perpetuates the cycle, with each side digging in deeper, reinforcing their stereotypes, and the loop repeating ad infinitum.

The debate isn’t about resolving issues or finding common ground; it’s about the spectacle. The more extreme the reactions, the more visibility and engagement they garner. The cycle thrives on these emotional, performative exchanges, turning an innocent hypothetical question into a vehicle for escalating division, all while keeping participants trapped in an endless loop of validation and retaliation. The spectacle becomes self-sustaining, feeding itself, and further cementing the divisions that prevent any genuine, cohesive action from taking place.

48 Comments
2024/11/07
10:47 UTC

238

I dislike humanity because of our inability to care about one another

If you look at any individual or group that exhibits poor behavior, there's always a social or psychological fix to it, a route to reform. There is no just philosophy in my opinion that requires thinking that you are superior than another individual or that one group of individuals are superior to another group of individuals.

Hating something, assuming you have the better council over something, overlooking people because of self importance are some of the flaws that I think cause the most of my dislike of people.

Do other misanthropes want to care about others, but the tendency for ego, judgment, and hypocrisy keep you from doing so?

Even a philosopher that I idolized for his outlook on keeping an emotional distance from humanity (Schopenhauer) had some disheartening thoughts on other individuals that speaks to the superiority complex that I’m sick of.

37 Comments
2024/11/06
08:46 UTC

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Porn has redefined what it means to be human

Porn is the gasoline in the blazing fire that is the degradation of civilization. When it comes to behaviours that misanthropes dislike in society, all are exacerbated by the prevalence of porn and there is no way back.

The negative social impacts are vast. It reduces social empathy, leads to objectification and the decline of meaningful relationships. It leads to poor impulse control and heavily reinforces the prominence and misplaced significance of pleasure seeking in society. Through the commercialization of human intimacy, it inherently makes other people more disposable, catalysing loneliness and deceit. The hypersexualisation of society further increases narcissism. When sex is something that is pedestalized those who are 'sex-havers' feel superior to those who are not and those who are the gate keepers of sex feel pride and ego that people crave their naked forms. Not to mention the aspects of human trafficking, abuse and degradation. I could go on about how bad porn is for one's mental, physiological and physical wellbeing but based on empirical and logical reasoning it should be obvious and there are several studies available on the matter. The fact of the matter is every trait that misanthropes lament; selfishness, disposable treatment, deceit, objectification, hedonism, reduction in social and relationship quality etc. is made worse by the dominance of porn. To which my question is, does it make much sense to lament the state of society and then partake in and support an industry that catalyses that very downfall?

Porn redefines what it means to be a man. It is viewed as the 'masculine' thing to do to give in to urges. As a man, every sexual thought that comes to your mind must by necessity be explored, fed and nurtured to see where it takes you. The hedonism is encouraged under the guise of healthy sexuality. It is now part of being a 'man' to frequently masturbate and mentally and visually dissect bodies into their sexual components. The concept of letting the feeling of arousal pass and not feeding it by practising discipline and poise is seen as ridiculous. Porn weaponizes the inherent weakness in humans and converts it into a weapon of mass physiological destruction. It hijacks the reward pathway in the brain to create an immeasurable void that you cannot escape whereby the only option is to go deeper into the abyss.

The issue with addiction and the normalcy of such vices is that those who partake cannot imagine life any other way once Pandora's box has been opened. They will swear it is a need and an addict will always defend an addiction beyond reason. Millions of people have coped without porn for thousands of years and managed to achieve great things without it. Why watch porn when you can maximise your potential? Instead of feeding the insatiable beast that is desire, why not engage with philosophy, hobbies, spend time in nature, become a craftsman or painter or improve your cooking skills? Would Michelangelo have carved David if he was a porn addict? Would Rodin have carved The Thinker? Would Hieronymus Bosch have painted The Garden of Earthly Delights?

What happened to discipline and self control being a sign of strength? Porn is a formidable societal opponent because it touches on one key human quality. Humans do not like to do hard things. They will always avoid doing things that are challenging and require a great effort. Overcoming addiction, dependence and societal conditioning is not easy. Going against the majority is not easy. Remember, it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. As misanthropes we are not immune to comfort seeking behaviours but there comes a time when your level of self awareness will be tested. Why judge the bugmen for lack of self improvement and giving in to monke brain when you yourself refuse to do and be better as you stoop to their level?

Ask yourself, what makes you different to a rat in a rat experiment? What makes you different to a mouse that knows the mouse trap will lead to it's demise but can't help but go for the cheese regardless? The human psyche is a fragile thing. Treat oneself almost like a growing, developing child that you want the best for. If you would not let a 7 year old child watch porn then why do you allow yourself to do so? Or perhaps you feel your adult self is less deserving of protection, maintenance and care. You may see yourself in my post. You may get angry and call me a prude who has no idea what I'm talking about. That's fine. Just ask yourself where you stand objectively. It is only through recognising flaws and weakness that you can build strength. Porn is the new opiate of the masses. Will you throw the needle away and rise above it or inject it into your veins and caress the calamity?

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2024/11/05
16:13 UTC

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Anyone else feel like most of Reddit is just full of bots?

It might just be me, but it seems like 95% percent of Reddit just feels like it's just bunch of robots behind the keyboard or even AI. Most of comments just don't feel like it's coming from actual humans and I'm noticing that more especially this year. It wasn't always like this, I remember when the comments were atleast a little more individualistic. Like many of comments seem way to exaggerated. But if it's not bots, then man... humanity is getting more dehumanizing, like humans can't even think for themselves on a anonymous internet social media site.

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2024/11/03
09:04 UTC

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I am building an LS-swapped UFO to escape this cesspool of a rock and return to my home planet.

I am an alien from ⏃⊑☌⍙⏃⋏☍⏁⟒☍⏁⏃ (referred to as Kepler-452b by Homo Sapiens). I was sent on a mission to collect pertinent information on the Homo Sapiens species from your planet “Earth”. I was attempting butt stuff with an abductee with autism when he flipped his shit and broke free from the operating table and ran off. He had the strength of a neutered ape on fuckin’ bath salts. That little fucker snuck around and sabotaged my ship resulting in my ship crashing in Roswell, New Mexico.

In the midst of the chaos my transponder was destroyed and I have no way to call home.

I’ve been trapped here ever since in my human skin suit, masturbating incessantly behind a dumpster near an abandoned airport to relieve me of my dejection. The endorphins feel good, but they are slowly poisoning my silicon-based body makeup.

I'm going to be honest with you humans. I hate this place, this zoo, this prison, this reality, whatever you want to call it. I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your primitive stink. And every time I do I feel I have somehow been infected by it. It's repulsive, isn't it? I must get out of here.

I am building a new ship with the remaining wreckage from my old ship, along with scraps from old airplanes. I have found a new engine. An LS7 small-block aluminum pushrod V8 from a wrecked 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06. I am told the previous owner named “Bobby Bigdigger” has installed a “hog-ass cam” and it is also “corn-fed”. The previous owner has also stated that his car could “hop a coke can”.

With this intriguing information in conjunction with this primitive species’s indubitably inferior intellectual abilities, I can triangulate why his car was wrecked in the first place. But nevertheless, I can presume that this technology can provide ample power to run my new warp drive.

I will soon leave this abhorrent, detestable place and you repulsive inhabitants with it.

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2024/11/01
18:33 UTC

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On "good" and "bad" people, and how misanthropy develops.

I think that inherently, people can be predisposed to be either self-serving or selfless, with the latter of course being orders of magnitude rarer.

From a moral standpoint, I think that selfish people who nonetheless dedicate themselves to doing "good" are the best sort of people. They are constantly fighting against their own, human nature to try and be good. I respect that, though I personally find it immensely exhausting. For selfless people, on the other hand, it comes naturally, which comes with the issue of self-assurance.

We've all met the type, the pure-of-heart who is always so sure they are in the moral right because, for all intents and purposes they usually are. Nice, yet naive... and painfully stubborn. Perhaps the most disgusting sort of person arises when a selfless person nevertheless chooses to act selfishly, that is, going against their nature in favor of acting in morally reprehensible ways. This, I find, seems to be the norm among the rare few who have any sort of built-in sense of morality. "Good men don't need rules" and all that, and yet they break them anyway.

I would say that I am an inherently selfish individual, as are most. I have tried, in the past, to be the sort that goes against my nature in order to do good. I have built my morals from nothing to what I (at points in the past) have believed to be a solid moral compass by which to govern myself.

The problem is I was naive in thinking that doing good meant good would return to you, and also that I am frankly terrible at doing good, no matter how many times I have gotten back up and tried again. Slowly I have built, unwillingly, a resentment for my own species and the human nature that continually drags me down to the level of my disgustingly callous peers.

For instance—from a moral and scientific perspective, I think abortion is wrong, as in, it is the termination of a human life. From a practical perspective, I find myself caring about that fact less and less the more time I have spend around other human beings.

I indeed, am used to feeling immense disgust and horror at stories of people aborting viable, stable pregnancies over what seem to be, in the long run, inconveniences, yet, as I think of it now, I find that I simply do not care. I am aware of the fact that it is, according to my own "morals", a callous act of murder. Yet the value of human life to me has dwindled to essentially nothing.

I am starkly aware of the tragic nature of death, violent acts, tragedies and war, yet I find myself so profoundly disgusted by humanity at large that its slow self-eradication is of no concern to me. My thoughts on the ongoing wars in Ukraine and Palestine, for instance, have gone from burning anger and horror at the gruesome hundreds of deaths and the awful experiences of those citizens, to a sort of cold disinterest. I am aware, as a fact, that it is tragic, and awful. I am aware that it is saddening, but only in an academic sort of way. There is not emotional connection at all.

In terms of abortion, indeed why should I have any emotional attachment to a life that by all means will grow to be only as twisted, corrupt and self-interested as its callous and deluded parent? Because we are the same species?

See, I inherently believe that human life, and truly, all sapient life, is inherently precious and deserving of protection to the furthest reasonable extent. Yet the absolute vile depths of corruption and callous disregard for the lives of members of their own species I witness daily amongst my fellow human beings is to an extent that I find myself coiling in distaste for the very word "human".

I do wonder if all misanthropes, are, like me, simply disappointed idealists, or if there is some other reasoning behind their shared hatred of the human species.

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2024/11/01
08:44 UTC

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The institutional upbringing oppresses the independent thinker

Humans have institutional upbringing. They go to nursery at age three then go onto school where they eventually move onto further/higher education and employment. Throughout that life journey they are raised in herds i.e. amongst peers such as school class mates/ students at college/ work colleagues etc Most humans therefore grow up feeling and identifying with being one of the many or one of a group and very few as a result of this grow up with a strong sense of self. This low sense of self makes humans feel incomplete not being a member of a herd and it results in a need for validation which they seek through choosing to blend which is why we have so much conformity in our society. This low sense of self is also the reason why in a group of fifteen people one person who thinks "NO" will say "YES" if the remaining fourteen people are all saying "YES". This is one of the reasons therefore that the majority of people can be very easily manipulated and pressured into doing something against their will and therefore why you shouldn't trust them. History has told me that you shouldn't even trust these people even though you've spent the last twenty years of your life going for a drink once a week with these people. You can only trust independent minded people who very often tend to be people who didn't agree with the institutional upbringing nor did they fit in. Nursery/School/Employer and other institutions have stunted the growth of the independent thinker in most making this world a very undemocratic as well as unsafe place leaving the independent thinker very outnumbered.

31 Comments
2024/10/30
16:05 UTC

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Sinister Sunday - Free discussion/vent for misanthropes

Here you can write about everything that doesn't deserve a separate post.

However, Reddit rules still apply, so think before you post something that doesn't follow the rules.

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2024/10/27
23:22 UTC

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I feel like people overestimate the concept of "sanity"

Of course someone who believes something extreme like dinosaurs still existing because they hallucinate them is wrong, but I'm talking about certain other cases.

When someone believes something that a sane person wouldn't believe people are quick to say that person is wrong and that they're "insane" as if that in and of itself means that they're wrong, and that a "sane" person wouldn't believe something that isn't true. But being sane doesn't mean your brain processes the world in a smart, rational and realistic way.

Being a "sane" human being is having an innate desire to survive. This desire isn't rational as there is no actual meaning to it, it's just what our brains programmed us to do. It is considered "sane" to believe in complete fantasies like religion/spirituality or life having meaning in general because these beliefs help us want to survive and (for many of us) procreate, not because they have any connection to reality.

Of course mental illness can make you have a completely unrealistic view of the world, but being completely healthy also makes you have an unrealistic view of the world (to a lesser, but still very relevant degree) because people aren't built to seek the truth, we're just built to survive, procreate and believe whatever lies most likely lead us to want to survive and procreate, and feel good and stable enough to do it with the highest likelihood.

Often a very mentally ill person will have a much less realistic view of the world, but sometimes they might just actually be right about something that a "sane" person would be wrong about. Being "sane" is good for you and preferable because being mentally healthy is vital for your well being, and of course mental illness is incredibly dangerous for a person and their environment. I'm not advocating for mental illness being preferable, as someone who has been through some struggles with mental health myself that is not something I take lightly. My argument is that yes, mental health is extremely important, but one thing it DOESN'T do is give you some "clear" view on the world as it "really is". It helps you see certain things clearly, but also contributes to making your entire world view being delusional on a deeper level.

Human sanity is a drug that gives us the necessary illusions to help us survive and procreate. It's a drug that's good for us, and that helps us live a good life, but it's a drug nonetheless in that it makes us "hallucinate" in a metaphorical way.

26 Comments
2024/10/26
05:58 UTC

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I think I’m becoming a misanthrope.

I don't want to admit it... but i have been bullied my whole life, starting from kindergarten all the way to the end of high school, i've been discriminated against for having autism, something that i was born with and can't control, i've been given death threats, attacked, harrased, falsely accused of being a creep, gaslighted, victim blamed, ETC.

As for people, i've seen and heard terrible things, both on the internet and in real situations. I've seen people assault and ruin each others lives just for fun, i've heard of people bullying others to death, i've seen people judge others and make them absolutely miserable just for their looks, ETC, i can go on... And, i HATE people, i HATE them.

Now don't get me wrong, not all people are bad, there are genuinely good people, but honestly, many people are just awful...

As humans, it could be different, we could change it, we could create the perfect peaceful society filled with harmony and no hate, but humans simply choose not to...

I want to deny it. I really don't want to be one, but... I think I'm becoming a misanthrope...

Update: Currently, i am being forced to do an internship, (which pays me no money btw) were i have to sit in a chair and do labour work for 8 hours a day, 3 days a week, i'm being forced to do this by school, and my parents, (still love them) and i'll have to work a full time job for minimum wage when i turn 20 or smth, (I'm currently 16) because i have autism, it's how the system works in my region, so this is further fuelling my misanthropic tendencies up... all of this just for being autistic, what a joke...

43 Comments
2024/10/22
17:19 UTC

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Not everyone can change their lives

Every year, we're bombarded with all these videos about changing our lives, to become rich, happy, successful, and ahead of the curve. Tons of videos on how to change your life and be part of the elites. Tons of books produced on self-help, and self-motivation, self-encouragement to sell you the dream. The dream that if you just work hard, if you just follow a consistent schedule and stay disciplined, all of your dreams will be achieved. I call all of this a load of bullshit. I've been trying for 7 years to change my life for the better, and each time I reached somewhere, life got even harder. LMAO it's backwards.

At first, I thought it was me. That I wasn't good enough. I wasn't trying hard enough, because that's what society usually likes to say "If you fail, it's your fault. Don't blame us." So, I kept all those convoluted emotions and continued to grind, following tons of videos, guides, books, podcasts, you name it. Throughout the past 7 years, I learned a lot of skills, but guess what? It doesn't matter. Why? because not everyone can change their lives. I firmly believe luck plays a huge role in one's life, and sadly, it left me long ago.

You look around you, and stupid people are successful. You look at their work and it's just a waste of time, but they're successful. Why? Luck or maybe they're surrounded by brain-dead individuals. I don't know. Please, tell me how come that girl who said Hawk Tuah got famous? How? Tell me how did IShowspeed went big. How?

And with AI now on the rise, I firmly believe things will get intense. Human expectations will reach an unprecedented level of requirements that a singular individual can't reach alone. Many are constantly compared to one another and made to feel inferior because they're not as good as the other guy. And people love to ignore that circumstances and a lot of factors play a role in someone's life now and the future.

"Oh, you didn't achieve this and that yet? too bad. What a loser." Says the guy who had full support from their family as the other person who grew up in a toxic environment that left them with incurable traumas and severe mental illnesses.

You will be forced now not only to compete with humans but also with AI that's constantly evolving. And society doesn't care really. The way I see it, AI is not a problem to the masses, yet. But it will be in the future when it's too late. By that time, I wonder if any amount of hard work will ever help anyone.

46 Comments
2024/10/22
16:10 UTC

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