/r/TheOrderGame
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WTF? They really ended it like that?I still can’t believe…
So in the early levels of the game when you're chasing down the bedlam escapees you can come across a statue depicting the danes,which isn't that interesting, but it reminded me of the epic poem of Beowulf, a legendary warrior with seemingly superhuman ability going toe to toe with a man half human beast sounds a lot like the Knights and half breeds. My theory is that Beowulf legend was the first to actually use the blackwater prior to its discovery by king Arthur. And it was just undocumented in their history
I loved the way they spoke in the game, each word had weight and was communicated beautifully.
Is there a name for that kind of speech/dialogue?
The sequel to this game would’ve been incredible.
Hunting down Lord Hastings, the lord chancellor, being hunted yourself, going overseas to kill the vampires being transferred across the world.
It would’ve been unbelievable as an open world game. But Ready At Dawn studios is/ was closed down, so it’s most likely never going to happen outwith a reboot from another studio, and that in itself would never do the original justice.
Woe is me!
What a great game. I just finished it. I know it's almost 10 years old, but damn this was so good on many levels. Like a breath of fresh air, in fact! The story, the build up, the music, the voice acting, the characters. Albeit the game is very short, you'd think there must be a sequel due to so many loose ends. I loved the cinematic approach as it gave the game a different kind of life. So emersive.
Also, I noticed the trophies are extremely simple and there aren't any unlocking that would force, or at least encourage, a player into multiple playthroughs apart from a clean up playthrough.
Anyway, I so want a sequel to this game now. The game really drew me in in a way that I got emotionally engaged. This I can't remember happening since TLoU. Again, so many loose ends, I WANT A SEQUEL!
Percival is shown to meet privately with a man several times during a few of the chapters, who do you think he was? I have a few theories.
One of the former knights, Sir Bors was mentioned later on and some man came to rescue Galahad with Tesla towards the end of the game.
A rebel, an unlikely possibility since they were fighting rebels during the beginning chapters.
A former rebel, this sound more believable than a rebel insider.
Percival keeps the mystery man's identity hidden and talks to Galahad about him a little, saying he would talk about him someday. Not word for word but that was the meaning when Galahad asks him about that man. I am leaning towards a former knight, there were many knights during King Arthur's time. How many Rebels would know about using the blackwater to heal Knights? The mystery man sounds like a former knight. Thank you for your time.
Meta reportedly has shut down Ready At Dawn. This is very sad since they were the ones that made The Order 1886.
When Alastair and Galahad are fighting Alastair says "This was not the outcome I sought for." during the fight. I believe this was during their first fight when Galahad discovers that Lord Hastings is a Vampire. Considering he says that, it leads me to believe there was a different plan for Galahad discovering Lord Hasting's identity that did not involve him dying.
Alastair didn't know the Rebels would be part of the mission until half way through the mission. Since Alastair had a different outcome he desired for Galahad, what do you think his original plan was?
The Rebels being part of the mission ruined Alastair's plan and I'm not talking about the discovery of Vampires being shipped out, I mean whatever his plan with Galahad was once they reach Lord Hastings in his room. The only ideas that I can think of is turning him into a Lycan/Vampire or having him arrested. There are a few reasons why.
Alastair makes it clear he sought a different outcome.
The only outcome that isn't him dying is by turning him into a Lycan/Vampire when he meets Lord Hastings or denying the claims and having him arrested. Convincing Galahad that it is actually the Rebel's fault sounds possible if we consider how in Chapter 4 Lycans and Rebels are shown to be working together at and near the Hospital.
Since the Rebels being part of the mission is what makes them choose to kill them, it sounds like Alastair's original plan didn't involve killing Galahad.
There are other possibilities but considering Galahad trespasses and kills guards to get to Lord Hastings, it is extremely unlikely he wouldn't face a consequence for it. Death is unlikely since that was only desired when the Rebels became involved so turning Galahad into a Lycan or Vampire is the only outcome that makes the most sense, the only other idea I have is that Alastair and Lord Hastings show Galahad that he is wrong in his accusations and have him arrested. Maybe even try to convince him the Rebels are the ones responsible which has a decent chance when we consider what Galahad discovers in Chapter 4 which is Lycans patrolling the Hospital that is used by the Lycans and the Rebels.
We know that he is trying to ship out Vampires which will spread Vampirism but just like almost all stories where Vampires and Lycans exist they would eventually fight each other. Considering they share the same food source, what do you think his long term plan was? I have a few ideas:
Increasing the Vampire population. This would be understandable especially if their numbers are low which isn't confirmed in the game but an unlikely reason since the shipments are specifically targeting a distant location away from The Order. Increasing the population of Vampires is best done by spreading Vampirism across the world.
Preparing for an unavoidable war with Lycans. Lycans sharing humans as a food source with Vampires is a known fact, they eat the same thing though in different ways. Lord Hastings should know that peace between the half breeds is only temporary. As their food source decreases and their numbers increase as the years go by, this would be something he would need to prepare for.
Establishing a foothold in the Americas and eventually other parts of the world. We know that was the goal with the Americas, since the shipments contained Vampires he may have wanted to start preparing a location for keeping humans as cattles.
Theory three makes the most sense, he had intended to go there despite having easy access to humans. He would be away from The Order since they didn't have a presence in other parts of the world. He isn't stupid, there must have been a deeper reason why he wanted to go there with an army of Vampires. Nobody except Alastair and Galahad knew his true identity and nobody believed Galahad. The distance from where he was to the Americas is far greater than choosing another location in Europe, the Order isn't over there. If his goal was solely to increase the Vampire population why focus on the Americas and not other parts of the world where The Order is not at?
Does anyone feel he was being too extreme? I understand his desire to protect half breeds but spreading Vampirism will not help Lycans or Vampires in the long run. Both share the same food source(humans), what do you do when Vampirism has spread across the world and Humanity becomes extinct? That eventual outcome leads to only Vampires and Lycans existing. It would take a lot of time to get to that point but it would happen. His desire to protect his people is good, I would desire the same but not by spreading Vampirism.
I just finished the game today and the chapters towards the end of the game make us believe the Rebels are not fighting with the Lycans but against them and Lord Hastings. However, in chapter 4 when you go to the hospital you encounter a lot of Lycans ontop of the hospital and an Elder along with Rebels inside.
Inside the hospital is the Rebel's hideout, how can they be fighting against each other and be enemies when they are using the same building at the same time? The Elder was eating a corpse but considering there were Rebels alive in the hospital, they had to have known there were Lycans in and around the building. We could see the Lycans and we weren't as close to them as they are.
They weren't attacked by them which makes me wonder, was this an oversight by the developers or were they working together temporarily and it wasn't mentioned? A vampire corpse was in the hospital as well. Another thing to keep in mind is that the Lycans guarded the hospital before the air support drove them away. Why would Lycans defend the hospital if they are fighting against the Rebels? There had to be some form of agreement, it doesn't make sense for Rebels to continue using the hospital and Lycans guarding the hospital if they aren't on the same side in chapter 4. Thank you for your time.
Just finished the game. What a journey!
The perfect game for a weekend, zone out, no big world with 100 million objectives and micro-transactions.
A story, fantastic visuals and absolutely fantastic how they tied in The Ripper and Nikola Tesla.
Why no part 2? It’s much needed in today’s world with all the games being so big and micro-transaction focused.
I love game art books, but I've neverr seen one so extremly expensive, especially for a game that was not really a hit.
I searched online but aside from the Amazon one I can't find even an used one. I love this game art but it's incredible how little we can find online about it.
(Also, I've seen professional old art books costing half than this, what the hell is this price? $500?!)
My dudes. I loved it. I didn't expect it to be like that. I had zero expectations, I never heard of the game, I just wanted to give it a try. And holy shit. It was amazing. The graphics were amazing, the soundtrack was banging. And they actually had good dialogues, that felt realistic. The ending came sudden, didn't expect that. But still a good game.
If I understand correctly The Order:1886 received poor reviews partly simply because it wasn't what people expected it to be, since I've played the game recently I'd like to ask what the expectations were like before the launch?
I bought my PS4 back in the day for Bloodborne and The Order came with it. I played the shit out of Bloodborne and the Order just lay there gathering dust for weeks. Weeks became months, months became years, my PS4 became a PS4 pro. Only now after finishing The Last of Us 2 on my PS5 I gave The Order a try, because I was looking for a new immersive world with a compelling story. What a gem this game is! It feels like some sort of time capsule taking me back to the last days of PS3 and the beginning of PS4 when 3rd person shooters with cover based gameplay dominated the scene. The world is so beautifully crafted. Victorian London being overrun by a Lycan plague. The gameplay is solid, the sound design is superb and even the graphics hold their own to this day. I’m so glad I gave this game a chance! The Order definitely ranks among my top PS4 games!
are there any other games with the same theme (victorian , dark) as the Order ?? absolutely love this game.
I have a few trophies telling me to shoot enemies in blacksight, but I have no clue what that is.
Is it a game mode, level?