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Stormlight Archive Video Game

I can't be the only Sanderson nerd begging for a video game. I think it would be difficult to do with all of the Orders of Radiants and just the complexity of the lore. How would you go about the different Orders in a video game and how could they make it so that you could enjoy the game without reading the entire series. I think that they should have you just pick one or two orders at the start of each campaign that you complete a storyline with, similar to Hogwarts Legacy's house system. That way, you don't have to memorize the controls for 10 different orders at once. It would be hard though because groups like Truthwatchers, Edgedancers, and Bondsmiths don't do much fighting. What would you guys do?

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2024/12/01
02:15 UTC

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Stormlight Pokemon Team

I am currently doing a play through of the rom hack Pokemon Emerald Seaglass. I’ve nicknamed/built my team based on our favorite characters:

Swampert = Dalinar Skarmory = Kaladin Kecleon = Shallan Chimecho = Syl Arcanine = Adolin Gardevoir = Jahsna

Also have an Aipom named Lopen in my box lol.

Would love to hear what your Stormlight Pokemon team would be!

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2024/12/01
01:40 UTC

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Just finished WOR

My honest reaction.

I mean, holy shit.

I’d heard about the Sanderlanche and I saw it first hand in mistborn era 1, Way of Kings.

Words of Radiance blew those out of the water. Literally cannot contain myself enough to explain how I felt reading the last 300 pages which is crazy to say considering that’s a short novel, but we’re used to it right?

No spoilers, but what Shallan was up to at the beginning of the book felt like it was 2 books ago but actually it was just first third of this book.

Sanderson is a crazy bastard and I could not be more thankful I found these books now rather than when I was younger.

Wouldn’t have been able to afford them all, nor have the time, and likely wouldn’t have even appreciated them anywhere near as much.

Onto Oathbringer…

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2024/12/01
00:41 UTC

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I Decided to Read the Series

Barely on Page 100 of The Way of Kings and there's so much to learn! I'm taking my time reading and trying to imagine the creatures, people, and places and it just a wonderful world. Even the currency Sanderson created is intriguing. I'm being pulled left and right and I'm enjoying every little thing. This is the first book that I don't mind the perspective I'm reading from changing because there's just so much and his writing style flows easy. I got the first 4 books on Kindle for $3.21 and I feel like I robbed the man because of how much I'm enjoying this series.

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2024/12/01
00:11 UTC

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Why does Ahu mention the Unmade?

So they go to Braize, they get tortured by the Fused cognitive shadows that are trapped there. The Unmade spren are just on Roshar though, right?

Why then does Jezrien make several references to the Unmade in his PTSD-fueled nightmares? When did Unmade torture him? Wouldn't his torturers have been random ancient Listeners?

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2024/11/30
22:21 UTC

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Regarding Rhythm of War

Hello friends! I am finishing up Rhythm of War (again), and realized something I consider odd.

When using Anti-Voidlight to stab her daughter, Raboniel’s dagger has Raysium. Wouldn’t Anti-Voidlight destroy Raysium? Or is anti-voidlight specifically? Just wondering if anyone else has thoughts about this

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2024/11/30
21:58 UTC

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Serious concern!!

Is anyone else worried that Michael Kramer and Kate reading will be in their 80's by the time the Stormlight Archive is finished!

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2024/11/30
20:40 UTC

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Hot take

Oathbringer is not the best Stormlight book. Words of Radiance and Way of Kings were just as good.

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2024/11/30
18:29 UTC

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Can Willshapers soulcast?

I am reading Rhythm of War right now (I am only about 20% through so please limit conversations to early into the book if you can. With that in mind as I was reading Venli's chapter she used teleportation transfering her concious into Shadesmear. In book one, this is exactly what Shallan enters shadesmear by mistake they are described very similar ways. Could it be possible that a willshaper could soulcast, just much less potent than an elsecaller or lightweaver? Like they have the stormlight to infuse into the objects, a soulcast fabrial can do it with just the proper gem composition and stormlight resources. IDK. Just a thought as I was reading through.

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2024/11/30
17:55 UTC

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Sword-nimi fanart

I know, I overdid the design but a simple black sword would've been too boring for me so I made it more wicked and deformed.

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2024/11/30
17:39 UTC

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Wit is witty

Was just reading Tress and saw this line from Hoid as the narrator “Same way you would be more likely to lend your best flute to someone who treated their own battered one with respect” when Tress is offered to steer the ship.

Wow I just love such connections. During my latest re-reads I was idly wondering why Wit gave his flute to Kal. And here he is explaining why.

Amazing. Just had to post this (sorry if already posted before)

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2024/11/30
17:42 UTC

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Please tell me RoW gets better

I made a goal to read through the first four books in order to read Wind and Truth when it released. I ripped through the first three books but I’m 2/3 of the way through RoW and I am struggling to finish it. Please tell me it gets better and there is a Sanderlanche coming.

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2024/11/30
17:45 UTC

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Small Card with Screengrabs from my "Stormlight Archive Fan Trailer" I made! Please check the Trailer out if you haven't already, it would mean a lot!

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2024/11/30
15:41 UTC

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ROW thought

Could Rhythm of War have benefitted from having some, or even all, of Venli's chapters be from Leshwi's POV instead? Out of all the Stormlight books, ROW is the one which people seem to have the widest range of opinions on. But the consensus does seem to be that the Venli chapters are quite weak compared to most other POVs throughout the series. And that seems to be not because of what happens in those chapters, but because Venli doesn't do much in the book, and is mostly just there so that the reader can see what the Fused are up to, and to work on her plan for escape, which seems too difficult to actually pull off and never really goes anywhere for the majority of the book. I think it would have made for a much more interesting read if we witnessed a lot of these events from Leshwi, who is much more active and just a more interesting character. Reading from the perspective of a fused who starts respecting humans and is dissatisfied with Fused leadership would have been a great thing to add to the book, in my opinion. I think some of the Venli chapters and the flashbacks are still relevant but I think mixing that in would benefit the book.

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2024/11/30
16:03 UTC

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Hi I used to read this series but I don't remember where exactly but I want to comback

I drop the book/audiobook not long after (I think) kaladin decides that king/prince don't deserve to be on the throne and his uncle (king's) should be the king can someone tell me wich volume it was or even what chapter?

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2024/11/30
12:40 UTC

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Gollancz two parts paperback

Hi everyone, I checked with Gollancz this week and it seems that the publisher has not plan yet to release WaT in two parts paperback 😭

I mourn for my shelf’s aesthetics

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2024/11/30
07:53 UTC

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Who is Odiums champion, most upvoted comment wins

Let’s go, personally I can see it as Adolin, but I can see the argument for gavinor which would be really tragic

Either way personally it will be a good guy turned, and it will be someone emotionally close to Dalinar and company. The question will be what is more important the greater good or his own desires

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2024/11/30
09:33 UTC

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What happened to Tanavast's investiture?

So we know Honor got splintered. And he probably was holding a lot of investiture at the time. So when he died, what happened to it? What it just released in the world. It's not like there wasn't atleast a bunch of stormlight in the world, as knights radiant and sprens were already a thing at the time. Even Stormfather existed at the time before his death. So what exactly were the changes to Roshar after his death, if there were any? I always assumed he was still holding to a massive chunk of his power until he died. Or maybe he didn't?

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2024/11/30
10:33 UTC

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My DND campaign

I’m just getting ready to run a DND campaign that I’ve put Dalinar (complete with shard plate and shard blade) and Kaladin in, albeit as minor npc characters. Nobody else that I play with are StA fans, so it’s just for my own amusement.

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2024/11/30
11:30 UTC

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Favorite quotes?

What are some of ya’ll’s favorite lines from the books? Here’s one of mine!

“More wars are lost because of lack of information than a lack of knowledge and courage.” From Rhythm of War.

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2024/11/30
14:29 UTC

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The chapter banners

I have labeled this as words of radiance as that is the book I am currently on, and also a spoiler, just incase.

I can’t believe it has taken me this long to notice the faces in the banners that encase the chapter names. I assume the 2 eyes that appear in all of them, are the 2 eyes of the almighty? And I’m taking a stab at the faces being those of some of the heralds?

If so, what’s the importance does the faces changing?

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2024/11/30
11:09 UTC

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Im curious about the Heralds

They discarded their blades way back when, and most of the honorblades are in Shinovar.

Did Nale get his blade back? Or is he just a Radiant now?

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2024/11/30
11:10 UTC

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The silly possible use of a surge?

The silly possible use of a surge?

Use tension to make a t-shirt sword ?

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2024/11/30
08:30 UTC

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Ahu

Will Dalinar ever realize that he was drinking buddies with Jezrien?

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2024/11/30
08:35 UTC

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Where can I get the leather cover copies of the series

I want to own nice copies of the books, but I can't find them online.

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2024/11/30
09:02 UTC

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Type 2 invested entities

On my re read of RoW, I noticed something interesting. When Mraize is talking to Shallan in the gardens, he tells her that she is effectively trapped in the Rosharan system and cannot go beyond Braize or Ashyn because her investiture is tied to Roshar. In the fight between Zahel and Kal, Zahel clearly is using investiture and breaths, and Kal also remarks that Azure fights in a similar way and that she bleeds colour. Zahel mentions being a “type 2 invested entity” so that makes me question if only type 2 and above invested people can travel beyond their planetary system and be able to use investiture. He also mentions having had to die in order to become type 2, so that also brings up the question if the others (like wit and azure) who can also travel with investiture had to die in order to do so? And what about the world hoppers like Nazh? (Haven’t read the books they’re in but I know of them only through coppermind)

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2024/11/30
08:46 UTC

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Theory about the unmade

Hello all, as I'm sure many of you also are, I am in the middle of my reread of Rhythm of War and a theory came to me. I apologize in advance if this has already been theorized as I am not well versed in the popular stormlight theories but I have been reading through the coppermind and I haven't found anything directly confirming or denying this as all that is said on their page is that their origin is unknown.

So basically a summary of the theory would be as follows: What if the unmade were originally of honor and also the primary way the singers originally obtained forms? As we know there are 9 unmade that were corrupted and unmade by Odium some time ago in the Cosmere history. My theory is that originally Honor did not just create the storm father, but that he created 10 beings of incredible power to help govern/keep Roshar going much as the stormfather is effectively the storm. At some point in his attempts to destroy honor and leave the Rosharan system, Odium unmade 9 of these beings but either purposefully did not or could not unmake the stormfather for whatever reason.

Now, why do I think this?

Primarily, this is just one of many crackhead theories I've thought of that someone who knows more about the cosmere can easily debunk (like my ongoing theory that Szeth will be Odium's champion after Odium somehow gains control over him using his old Oath Stone). BUT, this theory actually has some more reasoning behind it.

  1. As we know the Singers were the native species to Roshar before the humans came, and that the Singers were Honors people with the humans bringing their god, Odium. This means that the Singers lived and used their forms under the guidance of Honor. How do we see Singers gain forms in the series? They bind a spren to their gemheart during a storm (either the stormfathers storm or the everstorm). But what if that originally wasn't the only way? I'm theorizing that each of the unmade while they were still honors creations controlled something within Roshar and any of these pre-unmade concepts could have been used to obtain new forms.

  2. We know that at some point when the humans began conquering Roshar, the Singers turned to Odium. This could be either because Odium had already corrupted the unmade, meaning the Singers almost had to turn to him to obtain forms or be an after effect, Odium corrupting the unmade to allow his new armies to continue taking on their forms. Additionally, one thing we know is that the unmade WERE in fact unmade. This is obvious but one thing we know for a fact is that everything that has been unmade was something else before they were unmade. This would imply that Odium did NOT just create the unmade, but instead corrupted existing powerful spren.

  3. The capture of Re-Shepir by a lightweaver. This may seem pseudo-random for evidence here but the thing I want to point out is that there is one other time I can recall the books discussing capturing an unmade. I apologize because I forget exactly where, but at some point in the books we are told that at some point in time the humans "captured one of the singer gods, removing their ability to take forms" This is not an exact quote but the intention is there. At some point one of the Singer gods was captured in a gemstone and that stopped the Singers from taking forms, allowing for their enslavement by the humans. I believe these two events could be one in the same. Re-Shepir was at some point the catalyst, or potentially the pre-unmade who was in control of allowing the forms to exist in the first place (possibly embodying the surge of transformation?) and once they were captured, the singers could no longer transform. This makes sense as Re-Shepir is known for her midnight essence creations and would fit well with her theming.

Of course there is one major problem with this theory that I would like to address/potentially explain. Why didn't the stormfather mention he had 9 siblings that are all dead? Well, we have actually seen many examples of why he may not have. Ever since the Stormfather bonded with Dalinar we have seen that his memory is strange and sometimes he doesn't give very vital informaion for seemingly arbitrary reasons. For instance, one at least one occasion Dalinar has said it seems like sometimes the Stormfather does not answer questions simply to be stubborn. He has also in conversation asked the Stormfather why he didn't reveal very important information to which he has responded to the effect of "you didn't ask." Well, Dalinar certainly hasn't asked "Are there other major spren of power besides you and the nightwatcher and the sibling?" Additionally, we can see that sometimes the stormfather has strange memory. There has been at least one instance where Dalinar asked the Stormfather if he knew something and the response was to the effect of "Once you asked me I always knew it" implying that before Dalinar learned/asked, the Stormfather did not remember.

Additionally, the setting gives the perfect reasons for the characters to not know any of this information and that is the same reason they don't know a lot of things: the desolations. Could it have been common knowledge at some point that the unmade were corrupted from Honor's creations but that knowledge could have easily been lost over the many thousands of years and endless wars.

Anyways, thank you for your time. I'm sure my theory has a dozen major holes in it but I'm proud

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2024/11/30
05:51 UTC

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Just finished up RoW with a week to go. Quick help in the ending?

Stoked to have a week off after 60 days of reading. I do feel kinda dumb because I don't understand the interaction between Wit and Odium in this one. Can I get an assist?

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2024/11/30
05:22 UTC

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