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Kaladin Dragon Age Character

Picked up the new Dragon Age and decided to model my character off of Kaladin, or at least how I see him in my head. One eye brown for his heritage, one eye blue for his ability. Curious what you guys think.

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2024/11/02
04:50 UTC

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Is this a good reading order for the rest of the cosmere

currently halfway through Oathbringer.

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2024/11/02
03:13 UTC

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[mid-OB] Brandon Sanderson's latest video just spoiled me

I'm currently reading Oathbringer, and I've just recently gotten to meet Highmarshall Azure.

From last book, I knew to keep an eye out for Nalthian worldhoppers, and I was fully convinced that she was one. She said a nonsense idiom about colors (like Zahel/Vasher does), and she's described as having a weird shardblade that drains the color out of people (which I don't think Nightblood does, but that feels like something a second attempt at a Nalthian Shardblade might do). I also just got to the point where the group ends up in Shadesmar, and she mentions disliking the place, which I took as confirmation that she traveled to Roshar from Nalthis.

I was trying to figure out if she was someone I'd seen previously, or just some new Nalthian. And then, I watched the latest video in which BS talks about his stained glass windows, and he mentions that Vivenna later gets called Azure. And with that, there goes all of the intrigue as I tried to figure her out.

I get there not being a spoiler warning, as that comment would probably have rolled off of me if I hadn't yet met Azure, and I'd guess that I soon get the cannon confirmation of this (or, at least, enough hints to figure it out), but I just wanted to complain about how unlucky I got that this video came out exactly when I was at this point.

5 Comments
2024/11/02
02:56 UTC

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Is it bad that I know who Thaidakar is?

It's not like I'm guessing it's Kelsier. I know it's Kelsier. I've read TLM already.

I'm in the middle of part 2 or RoW, but I knew it immediately.

Does it ruin a good reveal? Is it fine?

I assume it'll still be great, but it's bumming me out a bit.

39 Comments
2024/11/02
00:27 UTC

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[No Spoilers] A Couple of Merch Questions

I found a really nice Ghostblood sticker, I think it was vinyl, on the Dragonsteel store once, and now it appears to be gone, like it never existed. It can be found on Google images still, but the links are all gone. Does anyone know why the listings were removed, and if they'll come back? I liked the way the lines overlapped and interlocked, the logo was cool before but that was a nice touch.

Edit: Found a Pinterest link, which then links to someplace that seems to be another store.

Second question: Is there an option to buy just the Nightblood letter opener on the official store? I have no need for pins, mints, or most of the other stuff in the box and I'd rather those items go to someone who would appreciate them more. Is there an official way to buy just Nightblood on its own, or would I be better off buying from a reseller on someplace like ebay?

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2024/11/01
22:59 UTC

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Recommend reading order

Hello

I am finishing up the Mistborn trilogy at the moment and want to read everything this man have written.

But I can only read it for the first time once and want to do it right.

I am considering jumping straight in with stormlight but don’t want to miss out of any of the novellas. What would you guys recommend?

7 Comments
2024/11/01
22:51 UTC

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Trying to re-read Stormlight before WaT… is there anything that summarises the wider Cosmere story?

I’ve been caught sleeping and didn’t realise how close it is to release day. Is there anything that summarises the wider Cosmere story?

In a similar vein, is there a nice summary on the history of Roshar and the goings on of the shards/voidbringers etc?

2 Comments
2024/11/01
22:43 UTC

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What to read next?

I read Mistborn first. Then I went to Stormlight and am halfway through Oathbreaker (just finished part 2).

I’m wondering which direction to go next? I’m thinking I want to revisit Scadrial and read Era 2 but I don’t know. How interconnected are the different series other than being in the same universe?

Are there prerequisites to reading any of the other series?

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2024/11/01
22:33 UTC

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Vin and Kaladin

I just finished reading Mistborn Era One and am now I'm reading Stormlight Archive , more specifically, Words of Radiance. The other day, I came across fan art of Vin and Kaladin together, and honestly, it totally changed my brain's chemistry (no offense to Elend, but damn…). Now I can't stop thinking about what it would be like if they actually met! I’d love to brainstorm with fellow Cosmere fans who know these characters well, most likely even better than me. I'm proposing something more like fanfic and not how this could fit into canon.

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2024/11/01
21:20 UTC

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Can Bloodmakers store Pewterarm healing?

So burning pewter allows you to heal faster on top of the strength boost. Gold Feruchemists store healing. Would a Twinborn with Pewter Allomancy and Gold Feruchemy be able to store the extra healing and re-create to some extent being a gold Compound?

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2024/11/01
20:59 UTC

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Arcanum Unbounded 2

I recently finished my reading of the Cosmere and I had honestly underestimated the information in the Arcanum. After reading it, now I know just how clarifying is all of it.

However, it's a bit outdated with all the secret projects. Has there been any WoB about a second volume of the Arcanum? Because it would be great to have the additional information on planets like Canticle, Lumar or Komashi, and some new tales would be cool too

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2024/11/01
21:08 UTC

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Stormlight Archive Theories About the Fates of Dalinar and Jasnah

So I have two theories I have been cooking up for the end of the first and second halves of the Stormlight Archive respectively.

I believe Dalinar will reforge the shard of Honor during the contest of champions at Urithiru, whether out of desperation before losing, or for some other reason that I cannot predict. Such an ascendancy might void the duel, whether it be due to a vessel being unable to be their own champion, or because he is no longer able to be killed/kill his opponent. Moreover, this would likely make it possible for the resistance to Odium to survive until the second half of the Stormlight Archive, and for Odium to be kept in check enough not to have shown up in Mistborn Era 2. It would also explain the Cinder King's comment about Rosharians ascending to become gods.

My second theory is about Jasnah, and will depend heavily on the excellent Fractal organization scheme for shardic intent by wajeemba. I would highly recommend checking it out as it is a fascinating read with implications beyond this post. The key part of this is the true intent assigned to Odium in this scheme: "Righteous Anger/Fixing Wrongs", to which I will add "removed from its original context as contained in the other shards". This intent is due to the combination of the DESTROY/Passion intent with the CHANGE/create subintent. This explains why Odium can only express the destructive passions, and the more sinister nature of Odium (due to the CHANGE/create subintent) compared to the gleeful destruction seen in Ruin (double DESTROY/Passion in this organization scheme). It also explains why it so difficult to control. It is divine fury and hatred divorced from its context. Therefore, the consideration of what is right and wrong falls upon the vessel, and thus far we have only seen the results of that from a mad narcissist: Rayse.

Rayse was a good fit for the shard in all the wrong ways. A narcissist to the core, he desired nothing more than to be the one true god of the cosmere, and was all too willing to embrace the obsessive hatred that the shard encourages. His lack of any moral compass is reflected in the Unmade, specifically Ashertmarn (the Heart of the Revel) and Nergaoul (The Thrill). Both are expressions of his complete moral bankruptcy, encouraging blind submission to the worst instincts of humanity. The shard's intent also explains Rayse's ability to remove emotion from his executors like Moash, taking away the moral context of his retribution, just as Rayse has done with the shard. There is only one location in which he diverged from the shard: his hatred of questions, as seen in I-2 of RoW.

Sja-Anat mentions in I-2 of RoW that there is weakness "in the division between the Vessel and the Shard", and I believe Jasnah is the knife that will tear that seam apart and defeat Odium in book 10. For me, this argument hinges on a mix of metaknowledge and in-book knowledge, which I will cover now.

First, what we know from the text. Jasnah has been shown to contain a broiling rage at injustice throughout the books, demonstrated most prominently in her murder of the footmen in Way of Kings. It has also been borne out in her decision as Queen of Alethkar to free every slave in the kingdom, a move Dalinar was right to call insane to enact during a war, yet shows a commitment to her morality that is unmatched in any other character in the Stormlight Archive. The moment sells this most, however, are her actions to discredit Highprince Ruthar. She judge him unworthy and enacts an almost divine justice upon him, showing total hatred towards him all the while, a masterpiece fitting of a potential vessel of Odium. Her most key trait, however, is her ruthless investigations and love of questions, the trait Rayse was most incapable of accepting in the shard. This, I believe, is a seam Jasnah is perfectly suited to tear at, and I would not be surprised if she ascended to the shard by matching the shard's intent better than Taravangian in a manner similar to how Dalinar trapped Neragoul in Oathbringer. And bringing back a point from my section on Dalinar, Cinder King mentioned "people" ascending to godhood to Sigzil, not an individual, didn't he? Thus, I believe she will take up the shard, and finally give context to the divine rage of Odium, setting up a cosmere-wide cold war between a Roshar with three separate shards against Scadrial with a fused pair of shards embodied in Discord.

I will wrap this long post up with two pieces of meta knowledge which I believe confirm my theory. First, Jasnah is the last flashback character of the Stormlight Archive, suggesting an immense importance of her to the end of the series. Second, there is a Words of Brandon on the question of Jasnah fitting Odium, which I will quote:

Questioner
Would Jasnah be able to handle Odium's power with her experience handling strong emotions?

Brandon Sanderson
She would be a good candidate.

Questioner
Will she become Odium?

Brandon Sanderson
Oh come on, now you're just fishing for RAFO cards!

RAFO indeed. See you all for the release of book 10 in 2050. I'll be waiting.

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2024/11/01
21:01 UTC

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Is there a Cosmere equivalent to Nerd of the Rings?

Hi, I’m new to this subreddit but have been reading Cosmere for quite a few years and am having a hard time keeping up with the lore and all of the thousands of pages of content that I’ve read. I want to be as ready for the fifth Stormlight book as I can! The Nerd of the Rings YouTube channel has been great for helping me with Lord of the Rings lore, and I was curious if there is anything like that out there for the Cosmere books? Thanks!

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2024/11/01
20:37 UTC

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Does SPOILER have the same effect as drabness?

Just reread Warbreaker for the first time in about 10 years. One question I have on Drabs/hemalurgy - does creating hemalurgic spikes the way they are done in Lost Metal, with the small pricks on people to take their investiture, make them effectively Scadrian versions of drabs?

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2024/11/01
20:36 UTC

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Spook, hemalurgy and intent

So, if I am understanding this correctly, you need to actually want to make a hemalurgic spike to do it. In HoA Spook gets stabbed with a sword through a thug and gains the power to burn pewter through it. But it seemed like a total accident. Was it? Was his attacker tasked to do it. By whom then?

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2024/11/01
18:58 UTC

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Manufacturing Feruchemical Metals for Allomancers?

Would it be possible for Feruchemists to make metalminds designed to be consumed by Allomancers? The idea is based on normal compounding which accesses Feruchemical attributes but powered by Allomancy. Lets say you make an unkeyed Steelmind and feed it to a Coinshot. Does the Coinshot get Steelpushing or physical speed, or both?

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2024/11/01
18:42 UTC

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Is Dan Wells writing Nightblood?

Just a theory

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2024/11/01
18:19 UTC

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Jasnah- 1/4 through Rhythm of War

I’m 1/4 of the way through Rhythm of War for the first time and as much as I’m obsessed I’d be lying if i said I wasn’t annoyed that there’s not more Jasnah. I’ve been saying from book 1 we need more of her. Then Brandy Sandy killed her in book 2. The in Oathbringer, once again she’s a background character until the Battle of Thaylenah where she’s revealed to be arguably the most powerful and well trained of all the Radiants we have seen thus far. Then the book ends with her as Queen. I just thought after all that, we’d actually give her some focus and yet she’s literally been in one scene this book. COME ON GIVE US MORE.

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2024/11/01
18:00 UTC

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Ranking EVERY Twinborn Combination (Part 12)

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2024/11/01
17:22 UTC

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Caught up to the Stormlight archive.

I started the series around July and finished RoW early this morning. I love these books and can’t wait to read more.

I’m going to read the sunlit man next and if I have time I might try to read the mistborn trilogy before wind and truth it I have time.

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2024/11/01
16:15 UTC

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Elantris Original vs 10th anniversary edition

I bet this question was asked a lot so sorry in advance.

I have the original edition paperback and the 10th anniversary as an ebook. I prefer reading physical books but I don’t want to miss out on the 10th anniversary changes and additional content. Are the changes specifically documented so that I can read the original book then switch to the ebook whenever a change is there? Or is not possible in the first place?

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2024/11/01
16:07 UTC

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Cosmere Inktober - day 31: Champion (RoW Spoilers)

This prompt gave me a little trouble as the obvious choice is the contest of champions in WaT. The problem being that I haven’t read any of the previews and didn’t really look at any theories on possible champions.

I looked up the whole contest of champions thing on the coppermind and couldn’t find any previous thing.

So here is Adolin in his Shardplate with Maya, dueling his way through Words of Radiance and gaining shards. I feel like he deserves a bit of recognition for this :)

(On a side note, it would be really funny now if he turned out to be Honors champion)

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2024/11/01
14:44 UTC

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Knights Radiant lamp WIP

Making a lamp of Aharietiam, this is the lithopane part of it. Now to figure out the electronics

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2024/11/01
14:07 UTC

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17th shard

If we ever get another conversation from a certain devout guard of the the lady heir I would really love if he mentioned finding 2 full skeletons in her room 🤣🤣

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2024/11/01
12:29 UTC

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Easy Anti-Shardblade Swords (or, Why Katanas beat Shardblades)

Shardblades work more-or-less by disentigrating whatever touches their edges. Shardblades can be stopped by applying friction on the flat of the blade, for example the >!lastclap!< technique or a cheese wall .

In the real world, this is pretty similar to a saw (removing material in front of the blade). They probably could not cut cheese either.

As a metallurgist, I have cut my fair share of metal with saws, and there's an easy way to stop them dead in their tracks: compressive residual stress. Residual stress are internal forces trying to push atoms together or pull them apart. An easy way to visualize this is by picturing a bent paperclip. The act of bending pushes atoms on the inside of the bend closer together than they "want" to be. Thus, those atoms push away from each other (tensile) to try to spread out. Similarly, atoms on the outside of the bend experience residual compressive stress.

If you had a bar with residual compressive stress and tried to cut it with a saw (or shardblade), the metal will pinch the blade and stop it. (This does mean your bar will be halfway cut, but that's a lot better than YOU being cut).

There are lots of ways to put residual stress in material, and a popular sword has this universally: the katana.

Katanas are heat treated in a way that causes the edge to change phase into a harder, slightly higher volume phase (called martensite). This volume expansion leaves compressive residual stress in the edge, and is part of the reason the edge is curved.

I haven't tried cutting a katana with a saw so I don't know the degree of residual stress or if it extends deep enough to actually stop a shardblade/saw. But in principle, if the >!lastclap<! works, so would a sword/bar of steel with intentionally high residual stress.

TL;DR: katanas > shardblades??

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2024/11/01
06:25 UTC

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Allomanti copper and bronze & other invested arts.

Do we have any information on wether allomantic copper and bronze interact with other types of investiture?

Could a Seeker be able to sense a radiant/fused using the surges? Could they distinguish the surges or only detect the type of light used?

On the flip side, could a Smoker's coppercloud be used to dampen or cut off the rythms of Roshar. Could copper mistings be used to facilitate the creation of anti or hybrid lights? Could copperclouds be used to isolate a singer from the rythms, could this end up being a form of torture for them?

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2024/11/01
08:29 UTC

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Tress cosplay!

Trial run before Nexus! Tress is amazing, only need to find the perfect cup.

5 Comments
2024/11/01
08:27 UTC

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Easy Anti-Shardblade Weapons (or, Why Katanas beat Shardblades)

Shardblades work more-or-less by disentigrating whatever touches their edges. Shardblades can be stopped by applying friction on the flat of the blade, for example the >!lastclap!< technique or a cheese wall .

In the real world, this is pretty similar to a saw (removing material in front of the blade). They probably could not cut cheese either.

As a metallurgist, I have cut my fair share of metal with saws, and there's an easy way to stop them dead in their tracks: compressive residual stress. Residual stress are internal forces trying to push atoms together or pull them apart. An easy way to visualize this is by picturing a bent paperclip. The act of bending pushes atoms on the inside of the bend closer together than they "want" to be. Thus, those atoms push away from each other (tensile) to try to spread out. Similarly, atoms on the outside of the bend experience residual compressive stress.

If you had a bar with residual compressive stress and tried to cut it with a saw (or shardblade), the metal will pinch the blade and stop it. (This does mean your bar will be halfway cut, but that's a lot better than YOU being cut).

There are lots of ways to put residual stress in material, and a popular sword has this universally: the katana.

Katanas are heat treated in a way that causes the edge to change phase into a harder, slightly higher volume phase (called martensite). This volume expansion leaves compressive residual stress in the edge, and is part of the reason the edge is curved.

I haven't tried cutting a katana with a saw so I don't know the degree of residual stress or if it extends deep enough to actually stop a shardblade/saw. But in principle, if the >!lastclap!< works, so would a sword/bar of steel with intentionally high residual stress.

TL;DR: katanas > shardblades??

EDIT: Guys please stop focusing on literal katanas. I don't mean a katana specifically would stop a shardblade, only that it's step 1 in designing a weapon for that. Obviously in a world with shardblades you would optimize for residual stress, not simply having it by accident as a result of other goals.

You could also imagine a beartrap-like clamp held open by a piece of metal. As the shardblade cuts the metal holding it open, the clamp shuts on the side of the shardblade, stopping it.

87 Comments
2024/11/01
06:28 UTC

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Does blank want blank to blank

Does Sazed want Wax to take over the Shards?

Re-reading Stormlight as I’m sure we all are - RoW chapter 29 pre chapter statement says that Sazed is looking for ‘A sword…’ to take up the shards.

Mistborn era 2 was not my jam so Ive only read it once and may be missing s lot, but think i remember wax was referenced as a sword many times

Do we think saz wants wax to take up the shards? Knowing that doesnt happen at the end what do we think? The timeline for me is a bit fuzzy at this point as I know we are close in the timeline, with the fourth mistborn 2nd era taking place after WaT, if I remember correctly

36 Comments
2024/11/01
02:33 UTC

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