/r/runes
Your source for the discussion of runes, the native script of the ancient Germanic language-speaking peoples.
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This sub is intended for the scholastic discussion of runes, and can easily get cluttered with too many questions asking whether or not such-and-such is a rune or what it means etc. We ask that all questions regarding simple identification and translation be posted in r/RuneHelp instead of here, where kind and knowledgeable individuals will hopefully reply!
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Rule 7. No sigils or (early) modern symbols.
Despite of their enduring popularity in popculture, Icelandic sigils such as the végvísir and ægishjálmr do not originate in medieval Scandinavia. Both are in the tradition of early modern occultism arising from outside Scandinavia and were not documented before the 19th and the 17th century, respectively. As our focus lays on academic discussion of historic runic alphabets & runology, we ask that you post pictures and questions relating to these elsewhere, such as r/galdrastafir.
Further reading on how these symbols have little to no connection to the Norse or Viking period can be found here: ægishjálmr // vegvísir.
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I recently started looking into getting the birthdays of my family tattooed and thought runes would be a really cool alternative to the mainstream Roman numerals. Upon doing some research to have the most historically accurate tattoo, and from my very limited understanding of the language, I came to realize that there isn’t really a rune or symbol for numbers, the way that one would traditionally think there would be. From my understanding, the numbers were written or spelled out with multiple runes rather than using a singular symbol to represent a singular number. A quick google search showed me exactly what I was looking for, a rune for a number, but I wanted to ask, is it historically correct at all?
About 2 years ago they were online and I calculated my rune. Now they just dont exist anymore, I hope that some of you can help me with finding them. I remember that my rune was 8. Rune of ice/source. If u have some information you are more than welcome to send it. Thank you.
I’m having an old norse instrument made and I’d like for it to have a cool runic inscription. I could Google some rune stones but I don’t want it to say ‘Here lies Eirik Redbeard’ or ‘This way for the nearest mill’ or whatever.
Does anyone know of some lines of runes about music or singing or poetry, maybe? Or some kind of spell? Thanks so much! :)
Hi all, please give feedback on any aspect of this exercise, both semantically and runeology (phonetically mostly) wise.
After extensive back and forth with an icelandic friend, the closest to "Amor Fati" we're getting is:
elskaðu örlög þín "Love Destiny Yours, which is correct Icelandic grammar and makes sense should be close to the old language too.
In the younger futhark transliteration, I hope it should probably be rather accurately represented as "ᛁᛚᛋᚴᛅᚦᚢ ᛅᚱᛚᛅᚴ ᚦᛁᚾ" but the "ö" in Örlög (destiny) could also be represented by ᚬ
Any comments or suggestions from anyone, please?
I have been googling around and the best I've found are books that show pictures of the book page per page, but no transliterations or "pure" translations.
I'm willing to settle for older writings if modern is to high a bar. (Tagged as Resource as it is a request for resource)
Hey all. Going to cut to the chase, I'm very interested in runes, symbolism, and my basic understanding of the power runes can hold/imbue. However, as I said, my understanding is very rudimental and I want to learn more without a load of... "fluff". I'm wondering what the best resources or teachers are to tap into to get started on runes. I'm finding it difficult to cut through others' conjecture or oversimplified/incorrect translations from norse runes to modern English.
My main goal is to understand the different runes, why and when they would be used and how to properly "use" them, if that is even the right word.
Any help to get on the right path would be greatly appreciated, and if I am wrong or sound like a dick in any way during this, please let me know too. I know nothing, and appreciate being corrected.
Hello! I like the ability to read old runes. I'm about to read johannes bureus & I believe he uses the Gothic form of the runes. Would that be Younger Futhark? I'd like to be close to the authentic way & not filtered through & lose some of the essence. Gothic form comes easy to me but I won't want to learn something if it's different & slows down understanding of original. Thank you kindly, I'm new to this rune stuff. The runes
I ᛁhave delved into post-medieval runic lately and it quickly becomes clear that Runic-standardization fell apart quickly following the 1600s (probably earlier). Still some underlying standardisation and common development can be seen to some extent (probably partly spread from period runology interrest) and it can be translated into Unicode-Runic fairly well to suit a modern Runic Alphabet.
The runic alphabet below is a amalgamation of various Renaissance and Industrial Era Runic sources which gives a fairly logical development of Medieval Runic into modern times. One creative addition i have added is sjösol ᛙ (sea sun), standing for ɧ, ʃ, ʂ, ɕ (sh-, ch-, sch-, sj-, kj-, sk-, k-) cuz it is stupid we lack a letter for it. The order below is generic, inspired by Icelandic and Dalecarlian/similar.
ᛅᛒᛋᚦᚧᛆᚠᚵᚼᛁᚽᚴᛚᛘᚾᚭᛕᛩᚱᛍᛙᛏᛑᚢᚤᚥᛪᛦƵᚯᚮᚬ
abcþðefghijklmnopqrsʃtduvwxyzåäö
ᛅ | ᛒ | ᛋ | ᚦ | ᚧ | ᛆ | ᚠ | ᚵ | ᚼ | ᛁ | ᚽ | ᚴ | ᛚ | ᛘ | ᚾ | ᚭ |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
a | b | c | þ | ð | e | f | g | h | i | j | k | l | m | n | o |
ᛕ | ᛩ | ᚱ | ᛍ | ᛙ | ᛏ | ᛑ | ᚢ | ᚤ | ᚥ | ᛪ | ᛦ | Ƶ | ᚯ | ᚮ | ᚬ |
p | q | r | s | ʃ | t | d | u | v | w | x | y | z | å | ä | ö |
So for North Germanic, we have the Younger Fuþark and the Medieval runes before the Dalecarlian
Long Branch: ᚠᚢᚦᚬᚱᚴᚼᚾᛁᛅᛦᛋᛏᛒᛘᛚ
Short Twig: ᚠᚢᚦᚭᚱᚴᚽᚿᛁᛆᛌᛐᛓᛙᛚᛧ
Stung: ᚡᚤᚧᚵᛀᛂᛑᛔᛛ
Medieval: ᚠᚡᚢᚤᚥᚦᚧᚮᚰᚯᚱᚴᚵᚶᚼᚾᛀᚿᛁᛂᛆᛅᛋᛍᛎᛪᛐᛑᛒᛔᛕᛘᛚᛛᛦᛨ
Fuþorc for Old English, Anglish/English, and Frisian
Fuþorc: ᚠᚢᚣᚦᚩᛟᚱᚳᛣᚷᚸᚹᚻᚾᛁᛡᛄᛇᛈᛉᛋᛏᛒᛖᛗᛚᛝᚪᛠᚫᛞ
Younger: ᚠᚢᚣᚦᚩᛟᚱᚳᛣᚷᚸᚹᚻᚾᛁᛡᛇᛈᛉᛋᚴᛏᛒᛖᛗᛚᛝᚪᛠᚫᛞ
We also have the East with the Gothic
𐌰𐌱𐌲𐌳𐌴𐌵𐌶𐌷𐌸𐌹𐌺𐌻𐌼𐌽𐌾𐌿𐍀𐍂𐍃𐍄𐍅𐍆𐍇𐍈𐍉
And of course, the Elder Fuþark
ᚠᚢᚦᚨᚱᚲᚷᚹᚺᚾᛁᛃᛇᛈᛉᛊᛏᛒᛖᛗᛚᛜᛞᛟ
My question is:
What could be used for the other West Germanic languages such as Dutch and German?
Manie þanks for þe help - Dame Blossom
I’ve seen in various sources that there are about 100 surviving viking age runic inscriptions in Iceland, but I’ve not come across a list of where these can be seen. I have an upcoming trip to Iceland, and would like to search some out. Does anyone have a reference that lists where these inscriptions are?
I recently started creating and selling Elder Futhark wooden rune sets from scratch. I understand that ingwaz has two designs and I’m just wondering if it would be ok to include both versions in the set. I feel like the obvious answer is yes but I wanted to ask if you were to hypothetically buy a set with both versions of ingwaz, would you be grateful for it, find it odd, or be indifferent
Very interesting and extremely detailed. Cover shot
Has anyone read this?
Does anyone have any recommendations to where I might be able to study the runes of both elder and newer Futhark? I would really love to study the Futharks, since I’m quite the nerd 🙃