I completed the LOTR Trilogy(Book) recently...... However I was unaware of the rabbit hole in which I was driving..... Later I came to acknowledge that the LOTR universe is a lot more than I expected, with dozens of other relative book..... So my question is, based on the fact that I have completed LOTR(book) only, what should I read next to understand the previous lores at a better understanding.... Should I read 'The Hobbits' or should I read 'The Simillarion' I am unaware of the timelines...... And here I am asking the councel for their glorifying advice

Shower thought from today. If Saruman ensured proper supply chain of food (maybe some salted pork) for his army, then the party carrying Pippin and Merry will not have descended into chaos due to lack of meat.

• They may have missed or even fought off Eomer's ambush
• No Ents, Isengard doesn't fall.
• Added bonus of information on Frodo though torture of Pippin and Merry
• Saruman creates more soldiers for a 2nd wave on Gondor
• No last stand at Mordor.
• No distraction for Sauron. He may already know about Frodo
• Sauron wins

Bonus: Middle management Orc retires as SVP of Supply Chain at a government sanctioned villa in Minas Tirith

I just finished watching the trilogy of The Hobbit and lotr and I want to start the books, yet idk the proper order, the order of the 9 main books to begin at first.

They're taller, stronger, rougher than human men and male elves and have more benififts for the female elves/humans to marry since they're stronger and more animalistic.

I know the ring is a part of him but c'mon man, they only cut off his fingers while he was wearing it. I didn't read the books btw

Maybe a dumb question… the 2001 film opens with a prolog narrated by Cate Blanchett. Who also plays the character of Galadriel. Is Galadriel supposed to be the narrator?

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It’s been so long since I’ve seen the theatrical movies that I can’t remember which scenes aren’t in it from the extended, but my question is actually, which scenes in both movies vary in terms of how it plays out? Biggest example for me would be when Pippin and Gandalf are at Gondor right before Frodo sets off the red beam. Gandalf tells Pippin “you’re in the service of the steward now, you’ll have to do as you’re told”. I specifically remember the theatrical version of this scene having him speaking fairly normal, but in the extended version he’s coughing up a storm as he speaks.

Are there any other scenes similar to this where they’re more or less acted out slightly differently?

Hello all! I am new to reading Tolkien ( really fairly new to novel reading in general) and have been enjoying the first 3 books ( hobbit, FOTR and two towers ). Intend on reading more after I finish the main LOTR stories but I’m curious as where to go next! I have read some online and sounds like I finished tales or silmarillion next,

I am also weird with having sets all the same and I have been buying the versions shown in picture,

However I do not see the complete history of middle earth , the fall of numenor, or the adventures of Tom Bombadil in this style , Does anyone know if they exist? Are they necessary to read?

Any advice would help! Enjoying the journey!

We see that Bilbo, although under much stress, willing gave up the ring to Frodo. We see Frodo attempt to give the ring to Gandalf, Galadriel and Aragon. I’ve never read the books but heard Tom gave it up. Are there any others in LOTR history of anyone else willingly giving up the ring or attempting to?

Why didn't the Fellowship seek out Ulmo so that they could destroy or master the One Ring?

We know from Letter 246 that a being of similar Will to Sauron could master the One Ring, and doing so would undo Sauron the same as if the Ring had been destroyed. But the new Ring master would be corrupted by the Ring's influence.

Ulmo is a Valar, so they would be minimally corrupted by the Ring, even though they would be diminished by the Third Age.

I didn’t read the books but why did gollum have trouble with the stew Sam was making and wanting potatoes in it. Does gollum/Sméagol not remember eating potatoes back in the day?

Man, that shit hits hard when you've been drinking... Love these movies.

So I get that the ents were created by the elves to protect the woodlands of middle earth from the ever advancing dwarves and their insatiable need for timber in the mines and their dwarves technology, but my question is where did they learn to fight. We see them quite successfully and rapidly take down a fortified and heavily garrisoned orc stronghold and are supposedly a peaceful race so my question is, is there anything in Ent lore that says they once fought their own battles or war, or was it just the elves teachings that had been passed down (which would also ask the question how did they train future generations of ents)?

It has always been my understanding that the male and Female elves are more or less equal in terms of warfare. However, the more I read, I get the impression that this is not the case.

My first encounter with elves in the Tolkien universe was through the Peter Jackson movies. Here Arwen is given a notably bigger part of the story, being the one to save Frodo from the ringwraiths (instead of Glorfindel). One of the first elves we are properly introduced to, is therefore the bad-ass Arwen, bravely defying the forces of Sauron by herself.

The more I read, it seems that Arwen, as presented in the movies, is not representative in terms of the 'average female elf'. Particularly when reading The Fall of Gondolin, there are few (if any?) female elves fighting the battle, and they are rather hidden in different parts of the city trying to avoid fighting altogether. The female elves in Gondolin are (in my eyes) more 'frail' and 'in need of protection'.

Has anyone else had this experience?

Wow what a lot. I thought The Lord of The Rings was a lot more, but my goodness, this is like 50 times that. I’ll admit I can’t remember most of the stories because of how much there is.

There’s no doubt in my Mind Christopher is JRR Tolkien’s son. The Tolkien’s know how to write books.

Morgoth is the real deal. Much better and more crazy villain than Sauron.

Great to read a lot of stuff from the First Age.

This was obviously a very well written book but all that info is just my goodness.

The real plan of the Valar with the Istari was to send them as old, wise men so that they could assist and advise the races of Middle Earth.

But when Gandalf was sent back, he immediately took on a higher authority role and was more powerful, albeit still advising.

So does that mean when he was sent back, the Valar assumed their original plan with the Istari failed and as such, they changed their plan for the sake of the peoples of ME?

So I’ve been looking to find the lotr movies with the commentary on top. I obviously can’t find tbe dvds or blurays easily anymore at least in my country, so what options do I have? Do I just have to attempt to sync them on top of each other and hope for the best? Thank you in advance !