20+ years metallic sculpt. Waiting for war of the rohirrim box I decide to finish my gondor army

Hello, does anyone know if there are any changes to the supports? Some say there is no limit to how many models to support and other people say it has remained unchanged. Does anyone know anything more?

I have a this desire to field a massive swarm of Orcs with 2 handed weapons, but my local MESBG gaming scene is quite competitive and I've heard that's not a wise thing to do. How crazy would I be to run the Two Hand mob?

For example, if I brought 48 Orcs, and 30 of them had 2 Handed weapons, am I just handicapping myself here?

I'm all for fun play but I don't want to get minced every time

Are there leak about general rules changing?

First painting competition, its not perfect but I’m satisfied with it.

I have been waiting to start MESBG with the new edition, Last Alliance has the models I like best out of the stuff getting rules now.

I was hoping the get help to build a starting list of 500 points (using the new rules) so I can work out what to buy, I really like the Elrond, Master of Rivendell models so basing it around him probably works best.

Using an efficient number of boxes is probably more important than being as strong as possible as I can expand later if needed.

I appreciate any advice!

Preorders have only been up a few hours and apparently the new armies book has already sold out? It's getting removed from my basket due to insufficient stock whenever I try. Do we think GW massively underproduced or is this a bug?

winner: you can dive into new edition right now.

1. Isengard

Nearly all uruk-hai models & LL survived and got new rules. and Shieldwall on uruk-hai warriors.

Yes, Dunlendings LL is deleted, but everyone treated them as dunleding, not isengard.

2. Black gate open

uber troll is getting happier with 4 W. Also getting access to nazgul on fell beast, and a new LL ability.

3. The Last Alliance

Finally GW gave a glance to them.

loser: you need extra purchase/your models do not exist anymore

1. Forgeworld buyers

Many forgeworld models are getting removed. GW's original characters are almost wiped out. (DO NOT BUY GW ORIGINAL CHARACTER, THEY WILL BE "LEGACIED" IN 2 YEARS)

2. Harad

Half of the profiles wiped out. Especially the unique nazgul Betrayer, who was always a must-have for harad, has been deleted.

3. Moria

Moria Blackshields have gone. Now there is no "goblin horde" style moria army list, just Balrog.

4. Men

Minas Tirith, Rohan, and Fiefdoms are missing plenty of narratively important characters, like elfhelm, deorwine, hurin the tall, beregond etc. Some of them were key characters in certain lists.

5. Shire

Say goodbye to metal halfling warriors, which were all they have.

6. army of Thror

By adding Throwing weapons limits, grim hammers now can only take up 1/3 of the force.

7. Dunlending

RIP

8. Khand

RIP

Someone has any information about how Heroic Move and how roll-off will work in this new edition?

Does anyone know if anything was leaked from the Beornings, dragon emperor, white council or victors of the necromancer?

I’ve always loved the design of the easterlings and a phalanx playstyle seems very much my style, I found a bundle of proxy STLs and I was going to ask for it for Christmas (I have a printer) but with the new edition rolling out and lots of changes is it a bad time? Should I wait and spend my own money later?

Does anyone with access to the new rulebook know if there were any changes to the to-wound numbers on the Strength/Defence chart?

Hey guys! What a crazy few days of leaks it's been. While, like many of you, I wish the third book was also coming out in 2 weeks - as I'm a real lore nut - there are things which really excite me about the new lists. Would love to hear what you're looking forward to as well! As you will see, I'm a bit of a Hobbit nerd (it's where it all began, you see?!) so my things are a bit skewed in that direction...

1. Being Able to Play Bilbo's Journey Home

In the last bit of the Hobbit, we read: He [Bilbo] had many hardships and adventures before he got back. The Wild was still the Wild, and there were many other things in it in those days beside goblins; but he was well guided and well guarded — the wizard was with him, and Beorn for much of the way — and he was never in great danger again.

I'm excited that I can make a legal 450 point list with a fully upgraded Bilbo with his mithril coat, sting, 2 attacks, and the Ring to partner with Beorn and Gandalf (using the Battle of Five Armies list, and a handy little army bonus too!). Afaik, I don't think it was possible to play this list legally before as historic allies.

2. Being able to play a whole Troll escalation campaign

Those Trolls sure got around, didn't they! They had amassed two of the greatest swords in Middle Earth history (and a rather famous paperknife!) in their hoard. What was their life like beforehand? What sort of run-ins did they have with Elves, Dwarves, and Men? Now that we can upgrade them with all sorts of fascinating abilities, there's a lot of campaign fun to be had!

3. Playing a book(ish) friendly version of the Battle of Five Armies

Azog lovers might need to close their ears here. I'm a big player of Azog's hunters/Legion, but I always felt bad for taking him as my army leader when really it should have been Bolg. Given that Azog is nerfed, and that Bolg now hits mighty hero at eight kills (down from ten - which I hit for the first time ever in a game just last Monday!), I'm going to be benching the Pale Orc in favour of his lore-accurate son. Sure, it might hamper me a bit, but nowhere near as much as it used to, and at least Bolg can take a Warg in the army of Gundabad!

4. Smaug's Army Bonuses

I actually adore what they've given to Smaug, in terms of these extra victory points up for grabs. Adds a whole level of meta narrative and - while it might be painful to face him - I'm an absolute sucker for Tolkien's greedy wyrms!

(EDIT: 5. How would the Shire have coped with another Warg invasion?

I'm aware this scenario could indeed have been played out in the old edition, but running some of Azog's hunters (lots of wargs!) against the Bilbo's Birthday list would be a real fun game, I think!)

What about you? Are there any lists that encapsulate your favourite moments from the books or movies that you are itching to play out?

Ok so they want all to be like in the movies. What do you think on this guy? Was better before with burly?

Also, I will play balin's tomb scenario a lot... Can you suggest me any homebrew rules that could improve the experience using the troll? Now it seems aragorn or boromir with fv7 can oneshoot him pretty easy without even using strike as before

Has the Warg Chieftan been removed from the game or will this appear in the other book next year? Just got back into MESBG and trying to start an evil army, sofar have the battle host with WK and some wargs + Shelob.

Also how often do they restock? Looking to get some out of stock minis such as Gothmog.

So I was planning on getting into the MESBG as after watching the movies I loved the utilization of my home country, giving me awesome terrain ideas ect But sorry guys, I just checked the price, and I'd much rather have food for a whole MONTH than pay this. So as a New Zealander to the community of middle earth, games workshop has literally tossed my efforts to get engaged to the side, and I know for sure other New Zealanders are genuinely not going to pay this for couple infantry and a house or 2. What a joke, and kind of a big flat slap in the face after my peaking interests being utterly shit on 😕 Any Kiwis have second hand stuff (that still actually has rules LOL) that I could buy? Worth a shot!

A friend of mine is wanting to get into the Rangers faction from the now old edition, but it appears like they do not exist anymore? Is this true, the previous community article said they were getting reboxed. Are they a "legendary legion".

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Of course this is in theory only, as anything can still happen. Are there any list you think will be good?

Cheers lads

Numenoreana losing out on banners will make me sad. Fortunately I've got a few more games before the new edition is lit to use him.

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