/r/HistoryWhatIf
Welcome to HistoryWhatIf! We're here to explore alternate history scenarios in interesting ways.
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"Yes, And!" Please read questions charitably. Try not to shoot down posts too much. If there's a way to read the question that allows an interesting answer, go for it.
Keep it historical. Questions should be set in the past, so no current events (6 years is a nice limit), and they should not require magic or time-travel to occur. Offer context if you can.
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Would this affect history in ANY way whatsoever???
Let's say, hypothetically, we went back in time and gave Trajan and his troops a shit ton of cocaine. How much more land could they realistically conquer? Could Rome even hold on to it?
The following events happened in our timeline regarding the Illi Rebellion: while the Chinese Nationalists and Communists were fighting the invading Japanese forces, the USSR supported a separatist uprising in northern Xinjiang from 1944 to 1946. The Ili Rebellion began with the East Turkestan National Revolution, known in Chinese historiography as the Three Districts Revolution, which saw the establishment of the Second East Turkestan Republic. The leadership was dominated by Uyghurs but the population consisted mostly of Kazakhs.
After the Communists won the Chinese Civil War in 1949 (four years after WWII ended), the Soviet Union terminated support for the Second East Turkestan Republic
The Soviets tried to spread anti-Chinese propaganda among minorities in Xinjiang, but this backfired when Uyghur mobs attacked White Russians and called for them to be expelled from Xinjiang.
Now, let us imagine that in a parallel timeline, the USSR does not terminate support for the Second East Turkestan Republic? How does this affect the Second East Turkestan Republic's future, if at all?
In the middle of the Americas and Europe
Mountain Freaky Friday! How would the biomes, history, colonization, and culture of this alternate mountain-swapped North America change? Also, The Cascadian, Ozark, and Sierra ranges stay the same.
In this alternate timeline, Hemchandra misses the arrow by a few inches and survives the battle. The Suri army, being superior to Bairam Khan's forces, wins the war, forcing Akbar to flee to Safavid Persia, much like his father, Humayun. Would Hemchandra remain king, or would Islam Shah take the throne? How would this outcome affect Indian history?
What changes? How does it affect the war short and long term?
Germany wants a foothold in the Balkans to balance out Russia. They attack the Ottomans through Serbia.
He had his choice of the 2 when picking Allie’s and his stated reasoning applies as well to China as it does Japan. So what if he just chose the other option.
What changes.
So I have been seeing a lot of people asking what would happen if the Imperial Federation was implemented. But what I would like to know is what would it take to get the Federation implemented in the first place? And how long would it last?
And if it is implemented, would other colonies like India, Kenya, Malaysia, Singapore, and Hong Kong have the option to join? Or would membership be limited to the "White Dominions"?
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Look, i know i sound high when i Say this, But what if the did a treaty where they become Allies in search of proteccion from the french, not only that, But if the leader of the Carlist dies they Will put Archduke Karl Ludwig of Austria.
Assuming that, somehow, the numerous problems that beset the First Republic in our timeline (Third Carlist War, political infighting, Sagunto) are either resolved or don't occur, what would happen to Spain from then on? What impact would it have on the Spanish political landscape?
In this scenario Obama takes a much harder line towards his party's hard left flank after being sworn in in 2009. He immediately closes Gitmo, immediately withdraws from Iraq and Afghanistan, never has a drone program, never attacks Libya, publically disowns Israel and makes the US official allies with Palestine, and makes steps to around 2010 start trying to prosecute his predecessor Bush and his administration. Cheney, rumsfeld, rice, Ashcroft, Gonzales, Bolton, yoo, wolfowitz, scooter Libby, perle, maybe Powell though much of the left respected him at this point. Maybe even an elderly Kissinger. He also comes out 100% in support of WikiLeaks. Clinton and Biden are still the same, which obviously leads to clashes in his administration. In what order is the Bush administration prosecuted? what do they do to try to avoid conviction in their legal defense and on the commentary circuit? What does the general public think about this in Obama's presidency? How do Limbaugh, Beck, Palin and any possible tea party react to Obama spending capital to try his predecessor and his administration at the Hague? Does the tea party and Ron Paul revolution form differently? How do the next few elections go? How do ambitious political actors like the Clintons, Trump, Putin, and McCain interact with him differently?
After the Vietnam War, America saw hundreds of thousands of young, broken men without purpose return to the homeland. A famous image has a veteran holding a sign that read, "Will trade useless medals for decent jobs." It was clear that the government turned on the people they forced into a war that they stacked against themselves in "fear" of starting WW3 by "accidentally" killing Soviet or Chinese operators who where aiding the NVA and VC.
Where would the largest cities be? Where would the capital be? How would the [new] states be outlined? Obviously, it’s all conjecture, but a curious thought experiment.
Everything leading up to 1940 regarding WWII occurs as it did in our timeline. The only point of divergence concerns the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
The Pearl Harbor attack itself occurs as it did in our timeline. The only difference is the date: Japan attacks on Independence Day, 1940 instead of December 7, 1941.
The US therefore enters WWII earlier.
Was this scenario feasible on Japan’s side of the war? If so, what does WWII look like now? Or is there pretty much no change whatsoever?
On 19 February 1954, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union issued a decree transferring the Crimean Oblast from the Russian SFSR to the Ukrainian SSR to commemorate the Tercentenary of the Union of Russia and Ukraine.
Twenty three years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Crimea was annexed by the Russian Federation and has since played a central role in negotiations during the ongoing war between them.
What would the world situation be like if that transfer never happened. Would ties between Russia and Ukraine be better or worse? Would Russia still have supported paramilitaries in Luhansk and Donetsk and would they still have invaded in 2022? How would negotiations between Russia and Ukraine look different if they did.
Would have been any different? Hey, Tim Walz can be Veep here, too.
In this TL,nationalist rebellions happen in the austrian empire after the battle of Austerlitz,with each non-german ethnic groop saying they are now independent from Austria,and making their country.Francis,having nothing but the crown of Holy roman emperor and Austria decide to keep alive this political entity.Napoleon backs the independentist and doesn't try to break the HRE,out of fear something better at defending Germany could be made.
In 1936, King Edward VIII abdicated due to his relationship with the American divorcee, Wallis Simpson.
But what if he hadn’t abdicated, regardless of if he married Wallis or not, and ruled for another 36 years? Would the Second World War be different due to Edward’s pro-Nazi sympathy?
Let’s say the founding fathers had the foresight to address the issues it had in real life what would the long term effects be?
Since this group is posting what ifs related to the election, I’ll toss one in for me:
In this scenario, Trump doesn’t duck or turn his head as Crooks shoots him. The bullet hits him in the head and Trump dies instantly. One week later, Biden steps down and Kamala takes over as it did in OTL. Who runs in Trump’s place and how would the election go between Kamala and the other candidate?
By worse I mean 100% more worse than the Great Depression.
Let’s say Clinton gets the nomination, over Obama, and wins the election in 2008. She asks Obama to be her Sec. of State for the same reasons he asks her in real life, he serves from 2009-2013. Secretary Obama runs again for office in 2016 and gets the nomination, Trump does the same. Who wins the election?
If the Conspiracy of the Equals would have had considerably more power and succeeded in overthrowing the Directory in 1796, how would that have affected history at the time? Not only Napoleon’s rise to power and the direction of the French Revolution, but also the development of what would later become known as communism? Would it be possible for France to have transformed into the first-ever communist country more than a century before the Marx, Engles, and the Russian Revolution? Would communism have taken on a different spirit if it would have been springboarded by French Christians rather than German and Russian atheists? And if they could have held power for an extended period of time, how would the rest of Europe have responded to the new proto-communist ideology developing in France?