Writing in the fourth century B.C., the Greek philosopher Plato told a story of a land named Atlantis that existed in the Atlantic Ocean and supposedly conquered much of Europe and Africa in prehistoric times. In the story, the prehistoric Athenians strike back against Atlantis in a conflict that ends with Atlantis vanishing beneath the waves.

New research shows that lost continents are a real thing, and they have had a big impact on human life — though not in the way Plato imagined.

Take Greater Adria which was found under rocks in the Mediterranean Sea. And Greater Adria is not unique. Emerging studies of Earth’s mantle show likely traces of past lost continents. Analysis of ancient rocks suggest that almost all of Earth’s earliest continents might have disappeared, taking with them much of the history of life on this planet.

According to the book ATLANTIS: the fund of a lifetime, Not only do the physical characteristics of the proposed location, along with the given chronology, match Plato’s description, but all the elements are precisely in the exact order as Plato depicted in his story.

Therefore my debate stance is that the city was real.

Source: https://greekreporter.com/2022/12/10/atlantis-plato-history-real/

In the Jews and their Lies Martin Luther says:

• die Synagogen mit Feuer anzustecken
• ... ihre Häuser zu zerbrechen und zu zerstören
• ... die religiösen Schriften wegzunehmen
• ...zum Lehrverbot für die Rabbiner
• ... nach Aufhebung des Geleitschutzes und Reiseverbot
• ... den Wucher zu verbieten
• ...Arbeitspflicht für junge Juden und Jüdinnen
• ... burn their synagogues
• ... break into and destroy their houses
• ... take away their prayer books
• ... forbid their rabbis to teach
• ... abolish their escort and ban travel
• ... prohibit the usury
• ... force young Jewish girls and boys to work

Looking back upon Luther’s instructions on what should be done with the Jews, it would seem that Hitler followed them rather closely. During the Kristallnacht of 1938, the Nazis burned thousands of synagogues. The creation of ghettos simultaneously allowed the Nazis to break into the houses of the Jews and destroy their property, while restricting their mobility and travel. New laws constrained the professions Jews were allowed to possess. Concentrations camps forced all Jewish boys and girls, men and women, to work.

• ... burn their synagogues
• ... break into and destroy their houses
• ... take away their prayer books
• ... forbid their rabbis to teach
• … force boys and girls to work
• … take away their money
• … escort them and ban travel

In addition at the time leading up to the Holocaust Social Darwin scientists published numerous articles that said race was a result of evolution.

What do you think?

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prove me wrong

footnote 51 of page 173 of SPINOZA: A LIFE by Nadler even says that's what his contemporaries thought although I can't read the footnote because I haven't bought the book it'd be great if you could copy and paste it here for me <3

One of my favorite debates to start us off.

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