I'm a goth guy in my 20's and I've never been at a goth club/goth night

As the title states, i‘m not a Goth by your standards (that’s a very different discourse this sub does not want to have apparently). Instead i‘m quite focused on Synthpop/futurepop, lots of Neue Deutsche Härte and Industrial as well as Darkwave and EBM. I never really cared about „goth music“ in the sense of goth rock, it never quite clicked with me, but I haven’t really tried some in a while, any good recommendations?

For me I discovered goth music through cosplay TikTok back in 2019-2020, I saw someone lip syncing to tear me apart by she wants revenge and since I’ve been hooked!

I am kinda still a baby goth and am still finding new bands I like. I was told about Christian death and when I listened to Romeo’s distress and found out that Rozz Williams sais the N word I was instantly turned off and have been refusing to listen to them because of it. I really liked the tone of the song and their other stuff and I have been trying to listen to them when Rozz Williams was no longer in the band.

I am a white person, and so I was curious to hear how goth POC felt about him. Do you guys still fuck with Christian death/Rozz Williams himself? How do you feel when white goths support Rozz Williams and the band. Obviously I know he’s dead so I don’t think listening to their music is going to affect him or not but I also just think it’s cringe that the other band members were cool with it. And yes I know that times were different back then but it just makes me feel weird supporting them.

I also know there’s a bunch of lore with him associating himself with nazism, so overall I think he’s a shit person but I want to hear what other people have to say.

Hey everyone, the title says it all. I don’t listen to regular goth music but more gothic metal. Thanks for any responses!

i love the dreamy atmosphere, swirly guitars and the airy female vocals with slight dark tones and would love more. some bands i like are trance to the sun, the shroud, tearwave, autumn’s grey solace, cocteau twins, la scaltra, stone 588.

To clarify: This is just my personal experience with goths on the app, and it doesn't apply to all the ones I met there either.

Anyway. I have the feeling most goths on social media in general (even more on that damned brainrot app) are always repeating the same 4 phrases like fucking parrots. Seriously, it's always the same pseudo-thirst trap videos with the phrase "goth is a music based subculture" or "you can't be a goth if you buy from shein" "everyone is mean and elit1st" "you can't be a bigot(their definition of bigot is interesting) if you call yourself a goth" etc. All of this is TRUE ngl but they say it as if no one else heard it before. Which i find stupid tbh. On top of that there's all that attitude of wanting to show goths are kind and accepting/inclusive of everything on earth which is not true when it comes to hanging out in your local scene with people who have been on this planet for more than 15 years. Seriously I beg these individual to step out of their "Emily the strange" themed room and go get shitfaced at an ebm concert or something

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I'm a 17 year old Caribbean American with strict religious parents and like goth music and the style. I'm indian and black so have straight hair and black skin and recently I just cut some micro bangs. My dad just flipped out saying I'm trying to be someone I'm not and would never fit in with the goths because of my skin color and he says I need to listen to "our" music and stop being "ashamed of who I am". It's not like I'm trying to be like someone else, it's genuinely what I enjoy and it's a part of my identity, I really don't want to stop. What should I do?

I want to feel “normal” in going through this phase, anyone else did?

When I was a teenager, I was mostly alt and listened to a lot of alt, punk and metal music, but I didn’t have the internet (early 2000’s) so discovering new stuff made it hard. I did a lot of DIY to my stuff as well, adding studs to my coats and b0ots and things to my belts. Then upon entering college (cégep) and then university it died out because I didn’t feel good in my own skin (that’s because I’m queer) and peer pressure and bullying in HS made it so I didn’t want to stuck out like a sore thumb further 🥴

I’m almost 33 now and I’ve went back to MY normal for a few years now and it felt SO good to drop the regular Marvel t-shirt and jeans! I don’t DIY anymore now though, I find it a hassle… 🤷‍♂️ (edit: scratched a bit about killstar because that’s not the point of my post 😅)

I’ve also dived back into the music I couldn’t find as a kid without the internet and no clue on how to find new music! So, that was nice too 😌 How about your “normal” phase?

(Edit post writing: why can’t we write about bo0ts???)

I heard a song that was 100% goth with these lyrics and have been searching to find it for hours with no luck.

Does Montenegro have goth communities?Or metal/punk communities? Do you have rock clubs? Goth shops, parties, festivals, rock festivals, local rock/synth/EBM scene?

Welcome to Self-Promo Saturdays, where you can post your own music!

Please ensure that it still fits within the subreddit rules and music genres guideline. Any dark post-punk, goth rock, deathrock, coldwave, darkwave, ethereal wave, etc. is absolutely fine!

So get posting your own songs, we look forwarding to listening.

I’m looking for songs that might include in the lyrics the phrase “choose her”. Context: unrequited love sucks lmao But seriously, any good goth recommends with anything in that theme would be greatly appreciated

I'm a lyricist and I want to rock... slowly and lowly. This is likely not a place where I can say "goth musicians wanted" and in what city I want them. Or is it? If not, which subreddit could I use for that? If any. Craigslist sucks crow dong.

Well, sometimes you just need to hit that spot, you know when you’ve had a shit week (or year), and listening to something so sad and melancholy actually makes you feel better?

For me, The Cure’s Disintegration album used to do that but I think it’s lost that vibe with me now, any other suggestions? Newer work too would be good!

I'm looking to buy some more goth clothes. Where do you guys shop for yours?

What ever happened to Zero Le Crêche? I fell in love with "Last Years Wife" back in 2000 and knew they were around for such a short while in the 80s but what happened? Where'd they go? Did the individual members go on to do other interesting stuff?

Also to note: "Last year's wife" on the Silhouettes and Statues compilation incorrectly plays "Sex and Violence" by the Exploited on Spotify, FYI, if you go to look it up.

I've just started learning the bass (only played it once last wednesday lol) and I've been looking for songs to play but not very many of them are from bands I like so I was wondering if there's any goth songs I would be able to play.

I also play the guitar (I've been using that to practice bas) so I'm okayish with bass riffs that are a little bit harder as well

Dear goths, given that it's fashion friday, I suppose now would be the most appropriate time to ask for your advice. I'm guessing there's thousands of you who also have horrible dandruff problems like I do and given that many goths wear black often, I figured this is probably one of the best sources to ask outside of asking a dermatologist.

Any recommendations for any hair/skin products to help keep dandruff away and off the black!? I usually prefer stuff that is for sensitive skin and/or natural products, but at this point it is so bad, that I probably would use turpentine if I knew it could help keep the snow away.

Thanks in advance

i really struggle with what to do with my hair, it’s long, at my lower back, and most of the cute goth hairstyles i see are done by people with shoulder length, or short hair. i really love updos, messy buns, those claw clip looking buns with the hair sticking out, and messy hair. but whenever i attempted it on my hair, it doesn’t work because it’s too long and it looks limp or weird. any links or help would be much appreciated <3

I have an immense appreciation for the Victoria era and have been wanting to dress basically like a Victorian vampire for some time now, on the slightly more historically-accurate side. I've seen a few decent items on websites like Shrine of Hollywood and Dracula Clothing, namely their waistcoats, shirts, and a couple tailcoats, however when it comes to measurements, I don't even make it to their smallest sizes. I'm 5'0, of average weight, and wear size five shoes. I truly am in quite the predicament. Do I have any other options? If I must I am willing to take up sewing, though I'm not sure I'll be especially proficient, and I can imagine it might take me a long while to become adept enough to make the pieces I truly desire. I'd be willing to wear women's sizes as well, however I doubt there are many particularly masculine options. I'm not particularly put off by higher prices either, as a fellow artist I acknowledge that good craftsmanship is expensive.

Yesterday in my philosophy class the theme of metal and goths and emos came up. We got deeper into the topic and there’s an activist in my class who asked questions relating to the work and i explained that most of my research and people ive talked to have said that being goth means more in personality and if you like the music. Then you are goth (correct me if im wrong im more recent).

He started to bring up how the scene is racist and perdominantly white. I said yes that’s true but there’s no place for racism in punk, metal, emo, goth spaces. If there are goth people who are racist, they aren’t goth they’re just appropriating and wouldn’t be accepted by anyone but those alike, it completely defeats the purpose of those genres.

I live in a city where our goth count is very, very low lol. Our metal scene is pretty loyal but i have a hard time finding goths here. And as far as i know you don’t have to look any kind of way to be a goth, but sure there is a theme among the most of us which is anything black.

I have always been “darker” in character and goth doesn’t run in my family at all. I’m an African American male from a high crime rate city. I am the first to be, compared to anyone i’ve grown up with. It’s hard to be alone but hopefully i’ll be able to travel and visit places where i can feel welcomed.

I say all this to say thank you to those of you in this sub who are so open about everything. And fuck whoever taints the image of these communities ;) Thank you if you’ve read, just wanted to vent i guess.