• "America... Before It Was Famous"
• "America Before It Was Famous"
• "The United States... Before It Was Famous"
• "The United States Before It Was Famous"
• "July 4 1776... B.C.?"
• "July 4. 1776. BC."
• "July 4 1776... B.C."
• "July 4 1776 B.C."
• "The Untold Story By People Who Never Wrote Their Story"
• "When Native Americans Were The Only Americans."
• "The United States When It Was Not United Or Had States."

I love this movie and I gave it a recent rewatch, I rank it quite high in Nolan's body of work

AFAIK Borden never used Telsa's machine and/or it's all bullshit and Angiers is an unreliable narrator.

I haven't gone down every potential rabbit hole on this, (I mean it's a Nolan film I simply don't have the time) but there is a small thing that always bothered me.

I felt Angiers should've known that Borden always had a twin brother. To me that seems like something he could've worked out or known given the amount of time they spent together earlier in their careers. That didn't come up at all at any point? Really? Am I missing something here?

My Fix

Borden never had a twin brother but he used Tesla's machine once, so I feel that can still keep the whole Art vs Commerce aspect I read into it with respect to Angier's and Borden's characterizations.

Hey everyone! I’m back with part 2 of my DCU plan! As we shift focus from the origins of the league and the rise of the Legion of Doom, we instead look at the world post-Justice Day, with the acceptance of metahumans and the rise of people who want to do good!

Quick detail to add, imagine that in my part one post, Cyborg was in the first Justice League movie. This part mentions him having been in that movie but I forgot to include him in the act 1 layout. So just look past that and we’ll be fine!

And for those of you wondering, here is the new order for act 2:

9. Cyborg Season 1 (tv show)
10. Superman: Bizarre (film)
11. Batman: The Hush Conspiracy (film)
12. Wonder Woman: God of War (film)
13. The Flash: Gorilla War (film)
14. Teen Titans (film)
15. Batgirl Season 1 (tv show)
16. The Brave and the Bold (film)
17. Aquaman: Blood Ties (film)
18. Nightwing: Agent Grayson (film)
19. Suicide Squad: Task Force X (film)
20. Green Lantern: Red War (film)

21: Justice League: Invasion (film) 22: Shazam: Rise of the Gods (film)

Without further ado, I present to you: act 2!

Cyborg Season 1 (TV Show)

Protagonist: Cyborg Antagonist: T. O. Morrow, Red Volcano, Red Inferno, Red Torpedo Side Characters: Silas Stone, Red Tornado, Sarah Charles Cameo Characters: The Flash, Professor Ivo

Overall Plot: After finally coming to terms with who he is, and assisting the Justice League in their fight against the Legion of Doom, Cyborg feels comfortable with his new title as a hero and defender of peace. But when a new cyber-criminal hacks into the S.T.A.R. Labs network and hijacks it AND Cyborg for personal gain, he questions just how lost his humanity may be in his new metallic skin. But he is not the only one questioning themselves, as when one of T. O. Morrow’s robots goes rogue, will Cyborg be able to help it find the humanity it craves?

Episode 1 Plot: Cyborg returns to S.T.A.R. Labs to tell his father what he’s done, and in the process, he helps uncover a devastating cyber attack on the network.

Episode 2 Plot: Finding himself hacked, Cyborg races to fix himself before too many of S.T.A.R. Labs’s secrets, as well as his own, are leaked to the cyber-criminal.

Episode 3 Plot: After releasing himself from the “Tomorrow Hack,” Cyborg tracks down the hacker’s signal, only to be met with a dead end... and a trio of deadly robots that are looking to finish the criminal’s job.

Episode 4 Plot: After the attack, Cyborg locates the runaway from the robot group, Red Tornado, who has become self-aware and wishes to find humanity. Meanwhile, Silas, Sarah, and Morrow try to restore the lost and corrupted data at S.T.A.R. Labs, only to be met with a virus that is building itself within their lab.

Episode 5 Plot: As Cyborg is easing Red Tornado into a life of humanity, the robot notices an act of danger and decides to follow Cyborg’s lead to become a hero. Meanwhile, back at S.T.A.R. Labs, Red Volcano has built himself up and enslaved the lab crew, demanding that they steal all of the information they can before he brings the building down on them.

Episode 6 Plot: It’s the season finale, and a race against time—literally! Revealed to be the mastermind and traitor behind the cyber attack, T. O. Morrow finishes his work to create his time machine, and he is not leaving witnesses behind. Cyborg and Red Tornado must hurry to the Labs and defeat T. O. Morrow and his robots, before it is too late for everyone!

Setting: Central City

Mid-Credits Scene: Following being defeated and betrayed by his robots, T. O. Morrow is arrested while a mysterious figure monologues about his failure. This figure is revealed to be Professor Ivo, who believes that his new “Amazo Project” can succeed where Morrow failed.

Superman: Bizarre (Film)

Protagonists: Superman Antagonists: Lex Luthor, Bizarro Side Characters: Lois Lane, John and Martha Kent, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, Supergirl Cameo Character: Superboy

Plot: After showing bravery against the Legion of Doom’s attack on what is now known as “Justice Day,” Superman and other Metahumans have become accepted in the general public as the brave heroes they are. However, Lex Luthor is not ready to let his grudge die just yet. Behind prison walls, he activates a plan called “Project Cadmus,” and unleashes a bizarre clone on Superman. But when the clone begins to show sorrow for his actions, it causes Superman to sympathize with it, and show it that there can be humanity in its soul.

Setting: Metropolis

Mid-Credits Scene: Following the original clone’s failure, Cadmus dejects Lex Luthor from their organization and focuses on starting over on the clone process. They say that they are mixing the DNA of both Superman and Luthor this time, and this is when we get our first teasing glance at Superboy.

Batman: The Hush Conspiracy (Film)

Protagonists: Batman Antagonists: Hush, Joker, Poison Ivy, Riddler, Killer Croc, Scarecrow Side Characters: Alfred Pennyworth, Catwoman, Nightwing, Commissioner Gordon, Lucious Fox, Tim Drake, Barbara Gordon Cameo Characters: Superman, Lois Lane, Batgirl, Zatanna, Bane

Plot: Following the death of Jason Todd in “Justice League: Unite”, Batman has committed to working mostly alone in Gotham, and much more brutally at that. But when a new criminal mastermind comes out from the shadows, Batman must prove himself against a gauntlet of his greatest foes if he wishes to keep his city intact. But how can he keep even himself intact after Jason’s death, especially when Hush begins targeting Bruce’s closest allies. Perhaps it is time for a new kid to don the mask of Robin...

Setting: Gotham City, Briefly Metropolis, Briefly Blüdhaven

Mid-Credits Scene: Upon Hush’s defeat, the city celebrates the victory of Batman and his new Robin, all the while a mysterious man watches the celebration from afar. This man is revealed to be Bane, who is plotting a takeover of Gotham City now that the Batman has been weakened. But he still feels the time is not right, and shall wait until Batman can be properly broken.

Post-Credits Scene: After watching Batman and the new Robin save the day once again and stop the Arkham riot, Barbara tells her father she is going out to study at the library. In truth, she climbs to the rooftops and dons her new identity as Batgirl, prepared to help Batman in his crusade against crime.

Wonder Woman: God of War (Film)

Protagonist: Wonder Woman Antagonists: Ares, Doctor Psycho Side Characters: Hippolyta, Donna Troy, Phillipus Cameo Characters: Circe, Kent Nelson

Plot: After her heroic actions on Justice Day, Diana returns to Paradise Island in hopes of being allowed back in. But when she returns to her home to find it in ruins, she learns of the return of the banished god Ares, and his plot to bring the mortal and immortal realms to war. Wonder Woman now makes it her duty to stop Ares and save everyone, along with the help of a powerful girl who looks a shocking amount like her.

Settings: Paradise Island, Metropolis

Mid-Credits Scene: After Ares has fallen, an ancient evil awakens from her sleep far away. Circe is revealed to be awake and on a course for Paradise Island, to bring the gods to their knees once and for all.

Post-Credits Scene: Following his brief assistance in ensuring the world is saved, Doctor Fate senses the presence of a new threat emerging, and mentions that he will need to assemble a team to stop it.

The Flash: Gorilla War (Film)

Protagonists: The Flash, Kid Flash Antagonist: Gorilla Grodd Side Characters: Iris West, David Singh, Henry Allen, Rudy West, Solovar Cameo Characters: Reverse Flash, Nightwing

Plot: About a couple months into training his nephew Wally, Barry is thrown for a ride when a nation of super-intelligent gorillas invade Central City and start an uprising. Following the gorillas, Barry learns of their leader Grodd, who has overthrown the old kind Solovar and declared war on all of humanity. Barry must now put Wally’s training on hold while the speedsters try their best to stop the uprising, before all of earth is lost to the gorillas.

Settings: Central City, Gorilla City

Mid-Credits Scene: During a nightmare, Barry begins to see a figure zooming in a yellow blur, who he remembers as the thing that killed his mom. He tries to chase it, but wakes up before he can catch it. He mentions to Iris that he feels closer to catching the figure every time, and that soon, he can find out what really happened to his mother.

Post-Credits Scene: After their battle with Grodd, Barry tells Wally that he isn’t in the best position to be training him. He decides instead to leave Wally with Nightwing, who says that he is organizing his own hero team to train teenage heroes like Wally to become the best they can be. Wally happily accepts, and we get a look at the rest of the Teen Titans team.

Teen Titans (Film)

Protagonists: Nightwing, Starfire, Cyborg, Beast Boy, Raven, Donna Troy, Kid Flash Antagonists: H.I.V.E. (Leaders: H.I.V.E. Mistress, Damien Darhk, Adeline Kane), H.I.V.E. Five (Gizmo, Jinx, Mammoth, Psimon, Ravager [Grant Wilson]) Side Characters: (Basically none other than H.I.V.E. soldiers) Cameo Characters: Deathstroke, Spyral

Plot: Following in the footsteps of the new, inspiring Justice League, Nightwing has decided to form his own team designed to train young heroes to be the best they can be! But after a group called the H.I.V.E. attacks with their own group of newly-trained supervillains, the Titans must prove themselves as the true heroes of the future, before any innocent lives can be thrown in danger.

Setting: San Francisco

Mid-Credits Scene: Deathstroke is meeting with the H.I.V.E., who have told him about his son’s death. Enraged, he asks for a chance at revenge on the Titans, to which H.I.V.E. offers his son’s contract for him to take up. Deathstroke accepts.

Post-Credits Scene: Nightwing is on a rooftop back in Blüdhaven, monitoring his city, when a mysterious person approaches him from the shadows. The figure says they are a part of an organization called “Spyral,” who claim they need his help for a mission of utmost importance. They reveal they know his real name, and tell him they need his help to bring down the new mayor of Blüdhaven: Blockbuster.

Batgirl Season 1 (TV Show)

Protagonist: Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) Antagonists: James Gordon Jr., Scarecrow, Killer Moth, the Sons of Joker Side Characters: Batman, Commissioner Gordon, Francine Charles, Alfred Pennyworth, Huntress Cameo Characters: Nightwing, Joker

Overall Plot: Barbara Gordon is only a couple weeks into her new career as Batgirl, and it has not been easy. Between the street thugs, masked criminals, and psychopaths of Gotham City, she hasn’t been able to catch a break. But when a familiar face from her past returns to destroy her life, Barbara must prove that she has what it takes to be Batgirl of Gotham.

Episode 1 Plot: Barbara finally has a chance to prove herself when a mercenary-for-hire calling himself “Killer Moth” puts innocents in danger to get to the Batman. But will the Dark Knight agree to Batgirl’s presence, or will he still let past failures dictate his judgement?

Episode 2 Plot: To test her on the field, Batman tasks Batgirl with scoping out an arms deal taking place at the docks. But when a new vigilante calling herself the Huntress interferes because of a personal vendetta, Batgirl’s priorities and focus begin to shift. Meanwhile, Barbara’s long-hospitalized brother, James Gordon Jr., returns to Gotham City, promising his family he has changed for the better. But can he really be trusted?

Episode 3 Plot: Batgirl’s training is put on hold as Batman demands her help in stopping the Scarecrow, who has been plotting to cripple the city since his disappearance during the Arkham riot. But when Scarecrow reveals that he might have ties to Barbara’s “newly healed” brother, she begins to question if she can really trust those closest to her.

Episode 4 Plot: As her family and trust are thrown into question, Barbara launches her own private investigation to find out just what her brother has been up to while he’s been in “mental recovery.” But she can’t do it alone, and so enlists the help of the Huntress to aid her investigation, not knowing it will lead them both into the crosshairs of danger.

Episode 5 Plot: Finding themselves trapped by a cult following the Joker’s footsteps, Batgirl and Huntress have to battle their way out of a madhouse if they want to earn their freedom. But they aren’t alone, as Nightwing has been hot on the group’s trail for Batman, and has come to help the others escape by any means necessary.

Episode 6 Plot: In the season finale, Batgirl races to find her brother before he can cause any more harm to the people around him. But when the psychopath has taken their father hostage and Barbara’s roommate hostage, Batgirl must decide what kind of hero she wants to be, and what kind she needs to be to keep her city and loved ones safe.

Setting: Gotham City

Mid-Credits Scene: After her brother has been brought to justice, Batgirl is met by the Huntress once more, who reminisces on how well they’ve worked together so far. She asks if she would like to work closely in the future, perhaps start their own team, to which Batgirl agrees, hinting at the Birds of Prey.

Post-Credits Scene: The Joker pays a visit to the makeshift labyrinth the Sons of Joker created in his honor, disrespecting the place and the cult. However, he learns about the existence of Batgirl while he is there, getting irritated that another sidekick has joined his “game” with Batman, and addressing that he needs to do something about it.

The Brave and the Bold (Film)

Protagonists: Green Arrow, Black Canary Antagonists: Malcolm Merlyn, Lady Shiva Side Characters: both characters’ side characters (sorry for being lazy, I’m just not up to date with the Green Arrow and Black Canary mythos and NO, I did not watch Arrow) Cameo Characters: Ra’s Al Ghul, Cheshire, Batgirl, Huntress

Plot: Star City is a lively and generous city during the day, made better by improvements from its #1 company: Queen Industries. But by night, it becomes a gold mine for crime of all sorts, crime only the vigilantes of the city are brave enough to stand up to. Green Arrow and Black Canary have met almost a year ago, and have made names for themselves as Star City’s beacons of hope, and defenders of peace. But how much good do they really stand for? It is a question that must be asked when the League of Assassins make their mark on the city, seeking to bring down everything Oliver Queen has stood for.

Setting: Star City

Mid-Credits Scene: Ra’s Al Ghul has observed Merlyn and Shiva’s failure, and deems them unfit to be part of the League of Assassins any longer. He then turns to the shadows, where he addresses to his new “star pupil” that it is her time to shine, revealing Cheshire to be the next to attack Star City.

Post-Credits Scene: While alone in a warehouse, Black Canary calls out for the person or people who helped her navigate through the League of Assassins’ base, who hadn’t revealed their identities yet. The people reveal themselves as Batgirl and Huntress, who say they have admired Black Canary’s heroism and want to recruit her into their new team. Canary asks what it is called, to which Batgirl tells her “the Birds of Prey.”

Aquaman: Blood Ties (Film)

Protagonists: Aquaman, Aqualad (Jackson Hyde) Antagonists: Black Manta, King Shark Side Characters: Mira, Atlantians Cameo Characters: Amanda Waller, Rick Flag

Plot: It has been almost three years since Justice Day, and Arthur Curry finally sees peace in his life. He is the king of Atlantis, his wife and him have had a child, and relations with the surface world may be steadily increasing. However, this peace is short-lived, as Black Manta has finally returned, looking to finally enact his revenge on Aquaman. However, things are different this time around, as Arthur is not the only one who has established a family. Manta’s estranged son, Jackson Hyde, has returned to his life, and Manta intends to use his family all he can to bring down Aquaman’s.

Setting: Atlantis

Mid-Credits Scene: Following his mindless assistance in Black Manta’s plans, King Shark was found on the surface world and arrested by the government. He is approached by Amanda Waller, who offers him his freedom to return to the sea, if he works for her. He thoughtlessly agrees, and is thus knocked unconscious and brought to Belle Reve until he can come in handy.

Nightwing: Agent Grayson (Film)

Protagonist: Nightwing Antagonists: Blockbuster, Spyral, H.I.V.E. Side Characters: Nightwing characters, Julia Pennyworth Cameo Characters: Batgirl, Red X

Plot: Nightwing is no more. For the past few weeks, he has been working for the covert organization Spyral as Agent Grayson, investigating the new mayor of Blüdhaven so that he may be brought to justice. But when his search leads him right back to Spyral, and the organization they are secretly working under, Grayson questions where he has aligned himself, and if he has what it takes to clean his city of evil for good.

Setting: Blüdhaven

Mid-Credits Scene: Following Dick’s death, a public memorial is held for the vigilante at Gotham, Blüdhaven, and San Francisco. But from the shadows, a mysterious figure revealed to be Red X watches, preparing himself for action now that Nightwing is dead.

Suicide Squad: Task Force X (Film)

Protagonists: Deadshot, Harley Quinn, Captain Boomerang, King Shark, Killer Frost, Rick Flag Antagonists: Amazo, Professor Ivo Side Characters: Amanda Waller, ARGUS team Cameo Characters: New Members?, Lockup (bomb fodder)

Plot: The day has come. After months of making phone calls, requesting favors, and convincing the government for backing, Amanda Waller’s “Task Force X” initiative is a go. And their first mission? Infiltrating Ivo Industries to stop Professor Ivo’s mysterious “Amazo Project.” But will this ragtag team of criminals be able to complete their mission? Or will they end up being worthy of their nickname “the Suicide Squad?”

Setting: Bell Reve, Central City

Mid-Credits Scene: Amanda Waller is speaking with a government official, who claims her task force is cruel and threatens to shut it down. Waller threatens the official with worse, at which point he asks her how much longer the task force will remain operational. She says she predicts it could come in handy in the near future, as she opens a folder containing information on various other possible criminals to join the squad.

Green Lantern: Red War (Film)

Protagonist: Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) Antagonists: Atrocitus, Red Lantern Corps Side Characters: Star Sapphire, John Stewart, Green Lantern Corps, Guardians, Star Sapphire Corps, Blue Lantern Corps Cameo Characters: Justice Leaguers, Brainiac, Black Hand

Plot: Following his bravery against the Sinestro Corps and tales of his involvement in Earth’s “Justice Day,” Hal Jordan is deemed a hero by the Green Lantern Corps, with a ceremony held in his honor. But after the dreaded Red Lantern Corps attacks, Hal finds himself at the lead of another war, this time against a dangerous foe unlike any he has encountered before. Now, teaming up with new allies and old, Hal must do what it takes to save the galaxy once again, lest it be conquered by rage.

Setting: Oa, Ysmault, Coast City, other Lantern planets

Mid-Credits Scene: Back at Oa, Hal is once again celebrated for his heroism at war, along with his partner Jon Stewart. However, the Guardians discuss in private a new, concerning matter. They say that the prophecy they have been dreading is coming true, and that they must act fast. One guardian proves their theory is true, as he shows a holographic recording of a Black Lantern ring shooting through space, and heading for Earth.

Post-Credits Scene: Hal is monitoring the galaxy with Jon when they get a high-energy reading nearby. Neither can find it, until Jon points attention to a large ship right behind him. A large ship, shaped like a skull, with purple energy emitting from it.

Justice League: Invasion (Film)

Protagonists: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Cyborg, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Supergirl, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Red Tornado Antagonists: Brainiac, Doomsday Side Characters: Lois Lane, the Kents, Jimmy Olsen, Robin (Tim Drake), Batgirl, Titans, others Cameo Characters: Darkseid, Steel

Plot: Actions have consequences, and with a rise in power, there will always be those who want to take said power. Brainiac, a distant relic from the remains of Krypton, has made his way to Earth to collect the planet for his own ever-growing intelligence. It is now up to the ever-expanding Justice League to stop Brainiac and bring his quest for eternal knowledge to an end. But will the League be able to defeat such a brain? Or will Krypton’s past prove too much for its sole survivor and his team?

Setting: Metropolis, Brainiac’s Ship, briefly other cities

Mid-Credits Scene: Metropolis, in great disarray, makes a public service announcement declaring the invasion over, but also reporting the tragic death of Superman. As the news announces a public funeral for the Man of Steel, a man watching the news at home stands up and heads to his workshop. He finishes construction on his own metal suit, hammer, and gadgets, donning the gear and revealing himself as Steel, the new defender of Metropolis now that Superman is gone.

Post-Credits Scene: In his war room, Darkseid is preparing an attack on Earth, calculating counter measures for the new heroes of the planet. He is interrupted by his servant Desaad, who brings him the news that Superman is dead. Darkseid smirks as he prepares his ships, declaring that Apokalips is going to war with earth.

Shazam: Rise of the Gods (Film)

Protagonist: Shazam Antagonist: Black Adam Side Characters: Shazam family, Wizard Shazam Cameo Characters: Wonder Woman, Mr. Mind

Plot: In the midst of Superman’s death, the world has been rocked and in need of a new symbol of hope. One such kid finding himself lost in this new, dark day is Billy Batson, who for a few months has secretly been the superhero Shazam, having gotten his powers from the wizard by the same name. Billy’s journey has been rough, but he has gotten a sturdy grip on his powers. That is, until the Wizard’s original champion returns, and seeks revenge on his old mentor and everything he has built. Billy must now work to save his city and the family he has come to know and love from Black Adam, proving himself as worthy of being Shazam.

Setting: Fawcett City, Rock of Eternity

Mid-Credits Scene: After his brutal battle against Black Adam, Shazam is flying through the city when he is approached by Wonder Woman. She says she admired his bravery against Black Adam, and says they could use more heroes like him in the world now. She gives him an invite to the Justice League as a part-time member, an offer Shazam happily accepts.

Post-Credits Scene: (Gonna be honest, it’s late and I’m lazy, so just picture that scene at the end of the DCEU’s Shazam with Mr. Mind, but replace Sivana with Black Adam)

The game would take place after Arkham Knight, the first would show Harley Quinn causing trouble in Gotham (still strying to continue Joker's legacy) but she's stopped by Nightwing and sent to Belle Eve. This doesn't last long, as she os let go by the Goverment for another Suicide Squad mission.

Howerer to her surprise, she doesn't encounter her old boss, Amanda Waller. But instead she meets General Rick Flag, the new leader of Task Force as the latter reveals that Waller has passed away due to getting shot in the head (Assault on Arkham is canon here) and was promoted to lead the new Task Force. Also unlike Waller, Rick Flag is not ruthless or sadistic like his previous superior, but more of a serious authority figure to the team.

She eventually encounters two old faces of the team, Deathshot (No imposter thing like in the actual game) who was choosen by Flag to lead the team and Captain Boomerang, who doesn't seem happy to be here. But also meets a new member, Parasite, who is one of the most formidable foes of Superman. (I choose Parasite to replace King Shark, because the one that appeared before the game exist died in the animated prequel)

Rick Flag later tells them their new mission, They must stop the ruthless organization, Intergang lead by former weapons dealer turned terrorist, Bruno Manhein who has begun a illegal human trafficking operation as they want to develop their own meta-humans for their own evil goals. Their mission, stop Bruno Manhein and shot down their operation.

This version would also add some arcs for the main characters:

• Harley Quinn and Deadshot relationship would continue based on the animated film, while also Floyd trying to help Harley realize the abuse the Joker put her and finally removed him from her life
• Captain Boomerang undergoing a character development from a jerkass asshole to a somewhat selfless person starting to shhow care for his teammates
• Parasite no longer wanting to be a villain. As the game goes on, it's reveal that Parasite is getting tired of being a villain and wants something new in his life

Throw out the game, we would see the Squad fighting not only just henchmen for Intergang, but also see them fightning the some of the organization's superhumans or villains associated with Bruno. Here are the bosses for the game:

• Doctor Light (his boss fight is similiar to the Electrocutioner from Arkham Origin. He gets defeated easily by Deadshot)
• Blockbuster
• Mammoth and Glimmer
• Killer Moth (was provived by Manhein with a chemical that transforms him into a insect-like monster)
• Snowflame
• Blue Snowman
• Volcana
• Goldface
• Orca

But the biggest adversaries for the squad to handle are Bruno's two dangerous weapons yet. Major Force, a former soldier turned homicidial supervillain and Bruno's right-hand man, and Captain Atom, a heroic soldier who was sent by Flag to stop Intergang but was captured and experimented against his will (he has a deviced created by Bruno to control him)

At the end of the game, the squad are able to free Atom from Bruno's control and the latter uses his powers to defeat Major Force, while the squad stop Bruno and kill him. In the ending the squad are let go by Flag and go to their seperates ways:

• Deadshot and Harley Quinn (no longer obssesed with the Joker and finally a sane person again) developed a relationship, with Quinn moving in the latter's house and becoming something of a mother figure for Floyd's daughter
• Captain Boomerang reuniting with his old team, The Rogues, but becomes abit nicer now
• Parasite was given a job of a janitor by Flag in Star Labs. (Not what Parasite expected, but doesn't complain)

There would be a post credits scene of Rick Flag having a chat about Captain Atom about his new found powers and presents with two people that can help him with that. Wonder-Woman and Green Lantern

Honest thought on these rewriten version of the game?

Hey everyone! I’m kinda new here, but this idea has been brewing in my mind for a while! DC is one of my favorite franchises EVER, and I’ve always wanted to see a complete, linear, epic series of movies and shows for it like what Marvel has! Only problem is that so far, the DCEU was kinda... not good, and not what I’d wanted. I’m confident that James Gunn has a good plan in mind, but that’s his vision, and this is mine! I will be following the Apokolips saga path that Snyder and the animated movies followed, but it will be my own version completely separate from both projects (for the most part)! This is only my first phase (or act as I like to call it), but I hope you all enjoy and I can tell you about more!

The projects are in the following order, in case anyone is curious:

1. Superman: The Man of Tomorrow (film)
2. Batman: The Caped Crusaders (film)
3. Wonder Woman and the Justice Society (film)
4. Nightwing (film)
5. The Flash: Fastest Man Alive (film)
6. Green Lantern: Emerald Guardian (film)
7. Aquaman: King of Atlantis (film)
8. Justice League: Unite (film)

Now, without further ado, here is my DCU Act 1 outline!

Superman: The Man of Tomorrow (Film)

Protagonist: Superman (Clark Kent) Antagonists: Lex Luthor, Metallo (John Corben) Side Characters: John Kent, Martha Kent, Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, Mercy Graves Cameo Characters: Bruce Wayne

Plot: Clark Kent, a secretly alien man from Smallville, has moved to the bustling city of Metropolis to start a new life as an investigative journalist for the Daily Planet. But when civilians are thrown into disaster, Clark decides to use his alien powers for heroism, becoming Metropolis’s very own Superman. He now must struggle between his human identity and his hero life, especially when an evil billionaire makes it his mission to destroy Metropolis’s new “alien threat.”

Setting: Metropolis, sometimes Smallville

Mid-Credits Scene: Lex Luthor meets with a man named Bruce Wayne, who discusses with Lex Luthor the matter of the “Superman,” before leaving to handle other matters with his son Jason. Lex then pulls up a screen teasing other supervillains in the world, monologuing about needing to take extra measures to eliminate the alien threat.

Batman: The Caped Crusader (Film)

Protagonists: Batman, Robin Antagonists: Hugo Strange, Penguin, Poison Ivy, Clayface Side Characters: Catwoman, Alfred Pennyworth, Commissioner Gordon, Barbara Gordon, Lucious Fox, Vicki Vale, Jack Ryder, Harvey Bullock, Renée Montoya, Thomas Elliot Cameo Characters: Dick Grayson, Joker, Harley Quinn

Plot: After five and a half years of fighting crime in Gotham City, the Batman faces a new crisis in his city: the Metahuman outbreak. As Batman begins to face the rise of super-powered threats in the world, he and his allies dive down a rabbit hole to discover the truth of who is behind the crisis; a mission that may just drive the Batman mad.

Setting: Gotham City, briefly Metropolis

Mid-Credits Scene: After being defeated locked up in Blackgate, the Penguin is visited by a mysterious man in a purple suit and mask, who reveals himself to be the Joker. He says he will be taking over the Penguin’s operations and equipment, saying that he has been invited into a “special club,” before leaving the Penguin to scream away in prison.

Post-Credits Scene: After recovering from his final battle with Bane, Bruce receives a call from his former apprentice Dick Grayson. He checks in on Bruce, before requesting help on researching a lead he’s been following. Bruce agrees and pulls a file up, teasing Deathstroke’s reveal.

Wonder Woman and the Justice Society (Film)

Protagonists: Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Hourman, Wildcat, Original Black Canary Antagonists: Cheetah, Doctor Poison, Nazi forces Side Characters: Steve Trevor, Inza Cramer, Shiera Sanders, Hippolyta, Larry Lance Cameo Characters: Lex Luthor, the Flash

Plot: During an era of great peril for the world, the American government assembles a team of super-powered individuals to help fight in the war against the Axis Powers. But when the team faces inner turmoil and a betrayal from one of their own, they become the center of a devastating plot - and become the last resort to save the world.

Setting: Various areas around the world, namely America and Nazi Germany

Mid-Credits Scene: 80 years after the war, Diana wakes up to a new day in a world she feels out of place in despite living in it for so long. During her day, she has an internal monologue about the world changing around her and always having heroes, as she watches a Metahuman with super speed stop a mugging.

-Post-Credits Scene: Once more, years after the war, Lex Luthor and his organization discover the lost Nazi base that Cheetah and Doctor Poison were defeated in. He uncovers Cheetah, frozen in ice, and offers her an opportunity to join him and defeat Wonder Woman, which she accepts.

Nightwing (Film)

Protagonist: Nightwing Antagonists: Deathstroke, Tony Zucco Side Characters: Gannon Malloy, Chief Redhorn, Amy Rohrbach, Bridget Clancy Cameo Characters: Bruce Wayne/Batman, Lex Luthor

Plot: After nearly a year of being on his own, Dick Grayson has made a name for himself as the heroic defender of the city Blüdhaven: Nightwing. But when a ghost from his past resurfaces, his hero status is thrown into question as he begins a tireless search for the man who robbed him of happiness. A mission that proves only more challenging with the world’s greatest assassin following Grayson’s every move.

Setting: Blüdhaven, sometimes Gotham

Mid-Credits Scene: After fleeing from his shamefully failed job, Deathstroke encounters Lex Luthor on a rooftop, who gives the mercenary a new job to accomplish. And he promises that with this payout, Slade will never have to worry about dishonor again.

The Flash: Fastest Man Alive (Film)

Protagonist: The Flash Antagonists: Captain Cold, Heatwave, Golden Glider, Weather Wizard, Mirror Master, briefly Captain Boomerang Side Characters: Jay Garrick, Iris West, Rudy West, William West, David Singh, Patty Spivot, Henry Allen, Wally West Cameo Characters: Alan Scott, original Captain Cold, original Red Lantern, Lex Luthor, Mercy Graves

Plot: Barry Allen has a completely ordinary life. He has a job as a forensics analyst, he is engaged to the love of his life... and a freak lab accident has given him superpowers. After learning that he has gained the power of super speed, Barry has made it his new duty to use his powers for good and protect Central City from evil. But when a new group of villains shows up calling themselves “the Rogues,” Barry’s limits are put to the test as he battles this new set of supercharged crooks. What could go wrong?

Setting: Central City

Mid-Credits Scene: After the Rogues are defeated by the Flash, Captain Cold finds himself isolated from the rest in a swat van. Midway to jail, however, the van comes to a stop as the doors are unlocked. Lex Luthor and Mercy Graves meet Cold, giving him a job opportunity for some “community service,” which he happily agrees to.

Post-Credits Scene: While relaxing at home, Wally talks with his uncle Barry, discussing weird changes that have happened since an accident he had recently. He shows Barry that he has gotten super speed, which Barry shows Wally he has too, hinting at the reveal of Kid Flash.

Green Lantern: Emerald Guardian (Film)

Protagonist: Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) Antagonists: Sinestro, Sinestro Corps Side Characters: Carol Ferris, John Stewart, Green Lantern Corps, Guardians Cameo Characters: Mercy Graves, Atrocitus, Dex-Starr

Hal Jordan has been a Green Lantern for about six months, after receiving his power ring, completing his basic training, and swearing his oath to the Green Lantern Corps. However, when a sting with his partner, Jon Stewart, goes off the rails, the Lanterns discover a hidden plot to conquer the galaxy for Sinestro, one of the Corps’s oldest and most fearsome enemies. Hal now races against time to stop the Sinestro Corps. from acquiring their “Miracle Machine,” a device that could destroy the universe if it falls into the wrong hands.

Setting: Oa, Qward, Coast City, other potential planets

Mid-Credits Scene: Sinestro, after being defeated by the Green Lantern Corps., was lost in space within his pod. When the pod eventually crash-lands into a military base on Earth, he is inspected by Mercy Graves, who orders the soldiers to take him away so the “boss” can see him.

Post-Credits Scene: Following the battle for the Miracle Machine, a far-away being known as Atrocitus catches wind of just how powerful the Green Lantern Corps has become. He decides that if their plan is to be enacted, then they should strike soon, while they may still have the chance.

Aquaman: King of Atlantis (Film)

Protagonist: Aquaman Antagonists: Black Manta, Ocean Master Side Characters: Mira, Atlantians Cameo Characters: Lex Luthor, Mercy Graves

Plot: Basically the same “battle for the crown” plot that I’m assuming already occurred in the DCEU movie (didn’t watch it, sorry.) I apologize if this is kinda lazy, I just didn’t have anything for Aquaman. Just, uh... imagine him with blonde hair this time, ‘kay?

Setting: Atlantis

Mid-Credits Scene: Following a climactic battle, Black Manta is rescued from the sea by a LexCorp submarine. Inside, Lex offers Manta an opportunity to be rid of Aquaman forever and finally get his revenge, an offer that Manta happily accepts.

Justice League: Unite (Film)

Protagonists: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman Antagonists: Lex Luthor, Joker, Cheetah, Captain Cold, Sinestro, Deathstroke, Black Manta Side Characters: Supergirl, Robin, Harley Quinn, others (sorry for not being specific, lotta heroes with side casts here!) Cameo Characters: Amanda Waller, Darkseid, Ra’s al Ghul, Talia al Ghul

Plot: The day has finally come. After months of planning, organizing, and hiring, Lex Luthor’s Legion of Doom has finally assembled, and with it, a chance to eradicate the alien/metahuman crisis for good. But when the heroes of earth and beyond find not only themselves at danger, but also the people they care about, they must unite to defeat the criminals who stand to destroy them and everything they care about. But can this group of heroes last long enough as friends to save the day? Only time may tell.

Settings: All across the world (namely Metropolis, the Arctic, and other cities and locations)

Mid-Credits Scene: Darkseid watches over his land of Apokalips from up high when a servant of his gives him word that an object called the Motherbox has been located on Earth. Darkseid makes note of this and prepares to send a war to Earth, but the servant also tells him about the new Justice League and the heroes that could stop him. He decides to wait, and formulate a plan when the time may be right, but regardless he is introduced as the big overarching bad guy.

Post-Credits Scene: After being arrested as an accomplice to Joker’s crimes, including the new murder of Robin, Harley Quinn is brought to a government facility. She is interrogated for her involvement in terrorists, before Amanda Waller presents herself with a file, asking her to join her new “elite task force” comprised mostly of criminals like her. She says she needs time to think it over, which she gets... locked up in Belle Reve Penitentiary.

To briefly recap my previous post, here's the list of movies that would follow X-Men (2000) and X2: X-Men United (2003):

X-Men 3: Dark Phoenix (2006) [Phoenix story only]
Wolverine (2007) [a prequel set about fifteen years ago]
X-Men: The End (2009) [grand finale; mutant cure story]
Wolverine II (2010) [set in Japan, directly after the first film]
Magneto (2011) [late 1950s, young Erik vs Nazis]
Deadpool (2012) [mid-budget R-rated meta comedy]
Wolverine III (2013) [not a prequel; set in Madripoor]
X-Men: The Beginning (2014) [a prequel set about fifteen years ago; origins of the team]

At this stage, we'll expand to television with The New Mutants (premiering 2014), which is set years after X-Men: The End. The main characters in the first season are a group of new students at the Xavier School – Mirage, Wolfsbane, Cannonball, Sunspot and Magik – plus Beast as the headmaster.

• The roster of main characters and guest characters will expand over time: easy, since it's set at a school. We'll include guest appearances of Karma and Cypher in the first season and see if they catch on; second season can introduce Boom-Boom, Rictor, Skids and Wiz-Kid (the "X-Terminators" team); third season can introduce some members of the "Generation X" team; etc.
• Cameos from the other X-Men in addition to Beast are welcome, too.
• The show will be allowed to get a bit more fantastical than the movies have been. Most importantly, Magik's ability to teleport via the Limbo dimension means we can play with alternate universes and time travel.
• This includes Boom-Boom's introduction being an adaptation of the "Fallen Angels" miniseries, so it'll include the alternate universe of the Coconut Grove.
• It also includes featuring Mojoworld (maybe around season 3) and thus introducing Longshot and Shatterstar.
• And by the third season we can also introduce Rachel Summers.
• I'd also want this series to include at least one appearance by the adult Havok, who was shown as part of the team as a teenager in X-Men: The Beginning – turns out he's been living a thoroughly normal life as Alex Summers, PhD.

Deadpool 2 (2015) is another mid-budget R-rated meta comedy, which also introduces Cable. Like the first movie, this one would have also been scheduled as counter-programming to the MCU and DCEU – except that Batman v Superman ended up delayed to 2016 anyway, so in practice it's only counter-programming to Avengers: Age of Ultron.

Mystique (2016) is the last of the prequels. It covers Mystique's entire lifetime from the late 19th century up to now, and how the world and its perception of mutants has changed around her and led to her becoming radicalised.

• In the late 19th century when mutants are nothing but a rumour, she meets and falls in love with Irene Adler a.k.a. Destiny and they live the "be gay do crime" life. Destiny is precognitive; she sees the near future most clearly, and while she's in love with Mystique she senses some impending doom in the far future. Anyway, they end up in conflict with a certain mad scientist named Dr Nathaniel Essex who's doing unethical experiments on mutants.
• By the 1960s Mystique is living a double life embedded in the US Department of Defense headquarters, and working to sabotage the ways the US government is exploiting mutants while keeping the general public unaware of their existence. Something happens which separates her and Destiny from each other. This part includes actors from Magneto movie.
• At some point she'll give birth to Nightcrawler and abandon him. She'll later encounter him as a teenager, by chance, while attending the Munich Circus in disguise.
• By this time (a couple of years after X-Men: The Beginning) mutants are treated more like a well-known conspiracy theory. Mystique is thoroughly radicalised by now and is plotting to assassinate a vocally anti-mutant Senator: the public sees him as a crackpot but Mystique knows how dangerous he is. Meanwhile, Destiny's sense of impending doom resolves itself and she sees what the consequences will be if Mystique succeeds: the "Days of Future Past" apocalyptic dystopian future. And so the elderly and dying Destiny calls on Charles Xavier to have the X-Men stop Mystique. There's a fight at the Capitol, Mystique is successfully foiled but the whole thing ends up looking like mutant-vs-mutant violence, which prompts the newly-elected Senator Robert Kelly to join the anti-mutant cause. Mystique gets away, and shortly afterwards Magneto recruits her to the Brotherhood of Mutants.
• In the present day, after a talk and a game of chess with Magneto (who is still de-powered) in a public park, we see that Mystique has re-formed the Brotherhood of Mutants with herself as the leader. We also see that a corporation named "Essex Corp" has emerged.
• (By the way, for bragging rights: we've beat the DCEU to a female-led solo movie by one year, and the MCU by three years.)

Now, I know that it's incredibly self-indulgent for me to say that Logan (2017) should be exactly the same and come out at exactly the same time when we've just had more than a decade of this franchise moving in a different direction, but screw it, this is all made up anyway. The only excuse I can give is that loosely adapting "Old Man Logan" isn't such a strange idea. (And that its existence helps to support the next movie.) Anyway, Logan is explicitly set in a different timeline (which we've already established as a thing that exists in The New Mutants and Mystique, and we've flirted with in the Deadpool movies too). But there wouldn't be anything in it to contradict the preceding Wolverine movies, so you could just watch those four movies in order and it'd make total sense. The one change I would make is that we can't use Rictor, as he's already a character in The New Mutants – so, instead, his role in the story is filled by a telepathic-telekinetic boy named Nate.

X-Force (2017) comes out about six months after Logan, and is also R-rated. The X-Force team consists of Cable, Domino, Psylocke, Marrow, Warpath and Firefist – although it's the same actor playing Cable, the events of Deadpool 2 are never referred to and the character is treated more seriously. Anyway, the team takes on Essex Corporation and brings down a bunch of their operations – particularly thoroughly destroying the main universe's equivalent to the Mexican compound from Logan where they bred and experimented on mutant kids, before it can ever get that far. There will be the strong implication that Cable is Nate from Logan, having travelled back in time to avert his own future, although it's never stated outright.

Deadpool 3 (2018) is next, again acting as counter-programming to Avengers: Infinity War. The only thing I'll specify is that Hugh Jackman makes a cameo appearance as himself.

Now, Disney's buyout of Fox was in the works since late 2017 and the filmmakers should have been aware that their franchise was very much in danger of being cut off. But rather than doing a grand finale for the X-Men film series as a whole, we'll finish with a movie which has a perfectly satisfying ending for itself but sets a clear new direction for the franchise to follow if it were allowed to continue:

X-Men: The New World (2019) is the first "traditional" X-Men movie in a while, set ten years after X-Men: The End, with a new team lineup (including characters introduced in The New Mutants, and others such as Armor and Pixie).

• In the years after development of the "mutant cure", someone has also invented Mutant Growth Hormone, which temporarily gives the user superpowers. Mystique and her re-formed Brotherhood have built up a huge drug manufacturing and dealing operation, selling MGH to humans: mainly just to profit off humans, but also to let them tear each other apart due to the side-effects of aggression and irrationality.
• However, proliferation of MGH also gives rise to the human-supremacist U-Men, who consider mutants nothing but a resource to be harvested for parts.
• We'll see how the cultural attitudes to mutants has shifted over the past ten years: they’re not a scary unknown anymore, but a distinct and generally tolerated cultural group. Attitudes among humans range from fetishisation to admiration to indifference to distrust to outright disgust and hate. (All this should have been seen on The New Mutants too.)
• There are also different attitudes among mutants about integrating as part of society versus holding oneself above it. Note how MGH turns mutation into a commodity.

And that's it. I don't think any of this would have influenced Murdoch's decision to sell off 20th Century Fox, or Disney's decision to end the X-Men film series and absorb the characters into the MCU. Plus there's the pandemic to consider. But if it were able to continue then a future movie would have directly featured Nathaniel Essex a.k.a. Mr Sinister again, and I think when The New Mutants ended it'd be followed up by an X-Factor Investigations TV show.

Overview:

As a Ninja Turtles fan, I would love to see another gritty take on the fearsome four. If by some miracle I ever get into the film industry, I would love to share this long treatment for how I would handle the next live-action incarnation of the turtles.

My vision would be to have seven live-action films that pull inspiration from the original Mirage Comics. Specifically, it would draw from the first five story arcs (Turtles vs. the Shredder, Mousers, Triceraton War, Living with April, and Return to New York) and the first 21 issues of the original comics. I would also have a spin-off film that would tie into the turtles’ story. This seven-film saga would be a period piece set in the 1970s and 80s, and take place over a decade (1973-90).

I would prefer to set the saga in the 80s because, to me, Ninja Turtles is a product of its time. Setting it in the 21st century where it would be easier for the public to catch on to the turtles’ existence by catching them on video with their cell phones would make the story feel less believable than if I were to set it in a pre-Internet era.

Tone:

I would want the tone of this saga to be similar to the 1990 Jim Henson film, the 2012 Nickelodeon animated series, and a Steven Spielberg adventure film: mature, heartwarming, and sentimental, yet playful. It wouldn’t be afraid to get dark and a little hardcore, but wouldn’t be brooding. It would also have a touch of adolescent fun and immaturity, but not to the point where it is too much.

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This treatment will continue in the comments below….

Another way to continue the story of the Original Trilogy is about the major factions, both New Republic and the Imperial Remnant joining forces against a far greater threat than the Sith.

The story would be about a Rebel Spy trying to return to New Republic space to warn about this threat. To do so, they are forced to team up with a squad of Storm Troopers.

Characters:

Rey: In this version, she is not Force Sensitive and is just a New Republic Spy trying to save the Galaxy from the Force Vampires.

Finn: A Stormtrooper that is cynical about the idea of Jedi. Nonetheless, he is second-in-command to the squad and will keep the group organized.

Galen: The older brother to Finn. Unlike Finn who is a cynic, Galen is an optimist that wants to help people the best of his abilities.

Force Vampire: They are an ancient enemy to the Jedi who were eventually defeated and casted out of the main systems.

Movie 1

The movie would focus on Rey and these band of Stormtroopers. The latter group belonged to a faction of the Empire that are far noble compared to their fellow Imperials.

On the other hand, some of the other Remnants are swayed by the Force Vampires under the promise of the destruction of the New Republic and would antagonize the group.

Nonetheless, there'd be tension between Rey and the troopers, particularly Finn. Galen in contrast is more than happy to help much to Finn's dismay.

Throughout the early parts of the movie, we get hints about someone displaying Force Powers. At first, it could have been Galen but it turns out to be Finn.

Galen reveals to Rey that they are children to a Jedi Master but at some point, they and their mother left him and settled into Imperial Space. Finn is bitter about the Jedi due to his tense relationship with his father.

At the 2/3 of the movie, Galen gets killed by one of the leading Force Vampires forcing Finn to step up and reconnect with his Jedi heritage.

In the end, Rey and the gang manage to reach New Republic space but Finn leaves to reunite with his father who is revealed to be Luke Skywalker.

One of the most common criticisms of Walking with Dinosauers 3D is that the voiceovers, forced in by Fox execs wanting to pander to children, are jarring and out of place, annoying to hear, and insult the intelligence of any actual kid, who'd like dinosaurs regardless if they could talk or not, plus anthropomorphises them too much while shafting the predators' side, which given WWD's naturalism, is an insult to the franchise.

The simplest fix would to simply have only two characters be talking, like what Speckles the Tarbosaurus did. Specifically, Patchi and Gorgon (who'd be female here)

You have the adult selves as the narrator, and occasionally they "talk", but no other dinosaur does.

Patchi's adult self would be voiced by Liam Neeson, while Charlize Theron voices Gorgon's adult self.

Also, rather then the framing device of kids and their palaeontologist uncle at a dig site, we see a montage of dinosaur museums and digs, which ends with Patchi and Girgon's remains being dug up and prepped. Similar to Ballad of Big Al, Patchi and Gorgon's ghosts come in, and they tells us their story. It's one of Patchi and Gorgon meering each other throughout their lives, always confronting each other until the end of their lives where they let go of their vengeance rowards each other's kinds.

The first two X-Men movies – X-Men (2000) and X2: X-Men United (2003) – are really good movies in their own right. They may not be the most faithful adaptations of the comics, but I think it's a strength that they focus in on the more grounded stuff – and so I'm going to leave them unchanged, and use them as a starting point. The way I've organised things, there's a new X-Men movie almost every year – the only exceptions are 2008 (when there are none) and 2017 (when there are two).

X-Men 3: Dark Phoenix (2006) is based on the ideas which the first two movies' filmmakers had: Jean resurrects as the Phoenix; Magneto gets Emma Frost (a contemporary of him and Charles, played by Sigourney Weaver) to manipulate Jean's mind; Cyclops steps up as team leader, and by the end of the movie has got on good terms with Wolverine; Gambit starts as a member of the Brotherhood but defects to the X-Men after bonding with Rogue; things culminate in an attack on the White House; Cyclops is forced to kill Jean's physical body but she ascends to the heavens as a cosmic being. There are a few things I would add:

• Storm isn't here. The explanation is that Nightcrawler went travelling to go find himself, and she went with him.
• Beast is here, though, and Colossus also has an expanded role.
• Rogue and Iceman break up, freeing her to strike up a romance with Gambit and him with Shadowcat.
• Jean restores Wolverine's memories, against his will.
• The end of the movie has the X-Men publicly acknowledged as heroic mutants for the first time, in recognition for saving the President.
• This is not intended to be the last movie. It ends in a way that could conclude a reasonably satisfying trilogy, but doesn't actively try to end the series like The Last Stand did.

Wolverine (2007) is a prequel which makes every effort to match seamlessly with everything we saw and heard about Wolverine's origin in the previous X-Men movies. Most of the movie is based around Wolverine working for Team X under William Stryker, about 15 years before the events of the first film (we're not establishing a time period, since the main movies are supposed to be in "the not too distant future"). Liev Schreiber's character is not Sabretooth: he's Logan's brother from the comics, Dog. Wade Wilson can also be a member of Team X but he does not become Deadpool in this movie: he's just Wade Wilson. Wolverine gets his adamantium skeleton at the end of the movie, not in the middle: he's got Dog killed by his own actions, and he's thoroughly disillusioned with everything Stryker is doing – but he just wants to be numb, not remember anything and not feel anything, so he accepts being turned into a mindless machine... except at the end he breaks out from Alkali Lake out of pure survival instinct. Set up at the very end of the movie that he's stowed away on a ship and ended up in Japan.

X-Men: The End (2009) is the grand finale to the main X-Men movies – after this we're branching out more into spinoffs, prequels, etc. The main focus for the whole movie is the "mutant cure". Since Wolverine has his own ongoing spinoff films, he doesn't have to take too much focus and can just be one of the ensemble. Cyclops continues to stand out as team leader; Storm is back with a mohawk and with Forge in tow; Angel also gets introduced as a kid; Rogue, Iceman, Shadowcat and Colossus are fully-fledged adult X-Men now. Charles Xavier is revealed to the public as a mutant, and is then assassinated. Magneto is de-powered at the end, but Mystique is not: we're keeping her around for the future. Rogue still chooses to take the cure at the end. At the end of the movie, with Charles dead and Rogue no longer needing looking after, Wolverine leaves the X-Men again and rides off into the night.

Wolverine II (2010) is a direct follow-up to his first solo movie: featuring newly-amnesiac Logan in Japan in a story heavily influenced by the Claremont-Miller comic miniseries. It has a somewhat upbeat ending, with Logan claiming the Wolverine identity as something positive, and the suggestion he and Mariko Yashida have a future together. (As his next solo movie will show, they don't.)

Magneto (2011) is a prequel set in the late 1950s (with flashbacks to World War 2 of course). It stars Erik Lenscherr as a young man hunting down Nazis, including Baron von Strucker and the Fenris twins. 17-year-old Charles Xavier (already bald) is a supporting character.

So, with a new movie every year, and 2012 also being packed with The Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises and The Amazing Spider-Man, what should the X-Men movies do? Counter-programming! Deadpool (2012) is a smaller-scale R-rated action comedy. It’s set in the present day, more-or-less in-continuity with the other movies (with Deadpool here being the same guy who was in Wolverine), but perhaps hinting that it’s set in a world where the previous X-Men movies are fictionalised retellings of real events.

Wolverine III (2013) – which naturally uses Wolverine's three claws to represent the "III" on the poster – is not a prequel, but is set after the events of X-Men: The End. The previous two movies did "Wolverine in black ops" and "Wolverine in Japan" respectively, and now this one does "Wolverine in Madripoor" – one of the antagonists is Wolverine’s twenty-year-old son Akihiro a.k.a. Daken. In this continuity Daken's mother is Mariko Yashida, who's dead now, and his master – who is the main villain of the story – is Ogun (here depicted as a powerful telepathic mutant rather than as anything mystical); Ogun is allied with Viper, the ruler of Madripoor. Jubilee is also a main character, being an orphaned mutant teenage girl whom Wolverine becomes mentor to; so is Psylocke (real name not revealed), a telepath with ninja skills allied to Wolverine. The movie ends with Ogun dead and Viper overthrown, Daken’s brainwashing broken but with him staying in Madripoor and the strong suggestion that he will rise to fill the power vacuum as its leader, and Wolverine and Jubilee going off into the sunset as surrogate father and daughter.

X-Men: The Beginning (2014) is an origin story for the X-Men team and the Xavier School, also set about fifteen years before the first film, with Charles Xavier as its protagonist. New actors will need to be cast to play Charles and Erik, although the actors from the Magneto movie can cameo in flashbacks I suppose. New actors are also cast as teenage versions of Storm, Cyclops, Jean Grey and Beast, as well as Cyclops’s younger brother Havok and Magneto’s children Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. We are introduced to Storm as an orphan thief on the streets of Cairo, and we see Xavier’s confrontation with the Shadow King; we also see Cyclops & Havok’s origin, with the plane crash where they lost their parents. Banshee also appears as an instructor at the early Xavier School. The major antagonists for the movie are Bolivar Trask, the Sentinels and the Master Mold. The Hellfire Club also appear as secondary antagonists, or more like wild cards: the younger Emma Frost is Xavier’s love interest in a Batman/Catwoman sort of way, while Sebastian Shaw financed the Sentinels. The split between Charles and Erik happens at the end of the movie, with Erik taking his kids with him.

This post is getting long, so it'll be split into two parts. But I've got plans for movies and also television all the way up to 2019 when 20th Century Fox got bought out.

ETA: Part 2 here.

was just listening to gorillaz and i felt a crazy connection to the mood of the kill bill series. songs like clint eastwood and last living souls seem like absolute perfect suits for the ambience and underlying western/dystopian mood of the movies. i also feel like demon days is the perfect base to make a film on. the storytelling and events in the songs like fire coming out of the monkeys head are so in depth and unlike anything i've heard in music. just wanted to share my idea somewhere. I'd like to hear how other people feel about this.

Was a blue beetle fan as a kid, so was a little disappointed when the movie was a repeat of every 2000s superhero movie. Not complaining though, it just gave me a couple of ideas.

So the movie would start of with Jaime breaking into Ted Kord's lab (didn't come up with a reason for why yet. One possibility being that Kord left clues similar to the founder of that VR companyin ready player one. Mightbe too lazy though). He'd be looking through the gadgets and stuff when the scarab suddenly turns on and attaches itself to him. He freaks out and runs away, making it out of the lab, but is seen leaving the restricted section of that building (kord industries?).

Security starts to come after him and a chase scene transpires. He gets caught eventually, right outside the building and it put in a healock. It is here that the scarab activates in order to fulfil 1 of 3 of its main objectives; Protect The Host. The guard holding him down is killed brutally, and instantly, to Jaime's horror.

The suit fully activates, preparing for combat. Seeing this murder Jaime begins to fully resist. Since the scarab cannot fight like this it decides to fly away (Jaime cannot physically prevent flight) Jaime wakes up in a remote looking location after seemingly crash landing. After sitting around and getting his bearings for a while he starts to wonder if any of that was real (cliché right). He does this because he refuses to believe he actually killed someone. He realises he's hungry and will have to move soon in search for food.

After much walking he realises he's reached a farm. He intends to look for the owner and ask for his help. He comes across a barn first and takes a look inside. There are animals. The suit immediately activates and slices of the head off of a nearby animal commanding Jaime to eat. The blood of the animal and the sudden activation of the suit reminds him of the guard that died. He throws up because of this, despite his hunger.

After he recovers he says "I'm not eating this" and precedes to argue with the scarab about him needing sustenance and whatnot. He complains that it's not even cooked. The suit directs an energy blast at the corpse. Completely frying most of it but leaving some-Parts edible. The scarab once again  commands him to eat. Jaime begins screaming "GET OUT" (referring to both body and mind) over and over. After a while a voice (presumably that of the owner) shouts "who's there!" From outside the barn. He hears the sound of a shotgun being armed behind him. He stand up and begins to turn when the owner screams "don't move!", he realises he has to get away before this turn into another situation where his life is threatened and the suit is forced to protect him. He doesn't want the owner to end up dead too. Before anything can happen, he runs, feeling but ignoring the couple of shot that bounce of the suit. He heads for the nearest road and just runs.

(The beginning is kinda similar to hulk)

Using signs and whatnot, he eventually makes it to a bus stop in a town. Trying to head to somewhere he knows, like home. Before he can get on, he is ambushed by a number of special forces. Weak, both from running, and a lack of food, as well as scared, he's unable to stop the suit with any degree of success. It proceeds to massacre every single agent. During the fight, the bus had pulled away for safety. After the fight he decides against going home.He ends up staying in the town. The people are very kind. They allow him to help out here and there and give him food and the things he needs. The sense of community is strong and it reminds him of home.

After a couple of weeks he's attacked again by special forces. Again they mostly all die despite him trying to prevent this. The suit puts Jaime in a psychoactive state similar to if he had taken drugs every time an attack hits to prevent him from hindering the defence. After every attack he's forced to move, choosing more isolated communities each time. The cycle repeats itself 3 times over 6 months. Jaime falls into a depressive state because of the cycle of being attacked, being drugged, and killing his assailants

I thought it would be cool to include a scene that emphasises the lack of control:

He's lying in bed in the early hours of the morning, awake knowing what's coming. He has no reaction to the door being kicked down and the debris flying over his head. Instead of getting up like a normal person in control of their body, the suit turns on plants his feet onto the ground and raises his body up using his feet as the anchor (matrix style)

After this, it's the same thing. Everything turns into a psychedelic blur, all the agents die, he has to move again.

(The depression which results from this would be portrayed similarly to geto's disillusionment from society in jjk)

Anyway after almost a year batman catches wind of the situation. (Not that he was entirely unaware beforehand, but because this was the right time to act)

I include batman because I first became a blue beetle fan because of brave and the bold series. In the brave and the bold batman was friends with Ted cord and the fought crime together as the original blue beetle until he disappeared/died. I would retain this history. I would also make this occur a little after Jason's Robin dies and when batman is no longer on speaking terms with Dick/nightwing. Batman would heavily be in a mood for mentoring (atonement) because of this. But of course that isn't his original intension.

When batman goes after him it all goes differently. He gets his ass handed to him and at the end batman disables the suit with either an emp or using the suit's natural frequency (something Ted kord taught him, or they learned together) Anyways, being beaten signals a change for the scarab. While it's a device with an objective, it has a will, and more importantly a strong sense of pride.

Jaime ends up being taken to either the batcave or some facility owned by batman. Because of it's wounded pride, the scarab proposes that it and Jaime join forces to beat batman. The suit realises that it lacks the human ingenuity required to do what batman did, to beat an opponent using strategy despite a disparity in fighting power. Merely taking over Jaime's body would not be enough to overcome that disparity, and so the scarab begins to try and persuade Jaime.

(I realised the scarab has literally the same purpose as goku did as a child. Land on planet, power up, enslave planet)

The scarab explains it's objectives were 1: find and preserve a suitable host, 2: achieve unification with host, 3: take over and enslave the planet.

Jaime obviously refuses. But upon hearing jaime's side of this conversation (the scarabs voice is in Jaime's head only), batman reveals that Jaime's family had been taken into military custody, and that he had no choice but to work with the scarab. It was never going to come of of him, and he'd needs it's power to free his family (because of recent events and regrets batman has a higher value for family). Anyway, cue montage, (side missions, preparation, and especially mind training with batman), Jaime begins to merge with the scarab, but the specific combination of training the mind with batman, and and Jaime's value for family, and community, makes the scarab gain those values instead of Jaime gaining those of the scarab. Also through this period batman is rarely actually present ,having other commitments. So he's just acting on batman's words, alone, at the facility

After the preparations, he breaks into the military base under batman's guidance, stuff happens, he frees his family, they can't go back home though so batman makes them stay... somewhere... he's rich. So somewhere safe.

Jaime then makes it his mission to clear his name/improve his image so that his family can live normally, somewhat, with the reason they were taken was for interrogation and to test for an affinity for scarab technology.

For clarity, this is just a rough, brief outline of how the movie would go, not a full narrative breakdown.

So yeah

So The Phantom was exactly what it meant to be ... a fun retro romp in the spirit of Indiana Jones and Errol Flynn. Set in 1938, it established the mythos well, and set up a potential child to carry on the legacy from father to son.

And the 1986 cartoon Defenders of the Earth already did a King Features crossover universe as animated, but that was really a Flash Gordon team show more than anything else.

Well, this 1996 movie is now coming up on 30 years old, which is pretty much a proper time for something based on that son while still including Billy Zane as the father.

Set in 1968, Kit Walker's son Kyle Walker has been the Phantom for 5 years now while his father is gracefully pushing 60 years old and enjoying his retirement in Mod London with Diana, and setting up logistics to support his son in the service of MI-6 under agent X-9 (basically a comic version of Bond created by the great Dashiell Hammett in the 1940s). >!Getting Pierce Brosnan to play such a senior spy would be awesome, but I'd settle for Timothy Dalton.!<

The first film should try to hit the following points:

1. A strange conspiracy surrounding fantastical weapons being smuggled to the soviets out of the Congo
2. The disappearance of Kyle Walker, pulling a still healthy Kit out of retirement to do a "too old for this shit" adventure into the jungle with X-9.
3. The discovery of Prince Thun (Flash Gordon character) in the jungle, as a prisoner of those smuggling the energy weapons.
4. After rescuing Prince Thun, who has translator tech so he can communicate, Thun tells them everything. That this portal is to Mongo, from where their emperor Ming spreads his influence across planets via like-minded proxies, in this case, the Soviets. Currently, 20 planets suffer under his reign, and Thun is part of the resistance.
5. They manage to shut down the portal, but Thun is trapped on Earth.
6. Kyle Walker awakens on Mongo in a cell.

So victory, plus a setup.

The 2nd film would start with war correspondent Dale Arden bringing these same high-tech weapons to Dr. Zarkov for analysis, who quickly confirms they are not of Earth design or materials, despite it looking exactly like an AK-47, as it shoots energy bolts. The weapon was found in Vietnam on the battlefield by Warrant Officer Alex Gordon (callsign Flash, helicopter pilot) of the US Army, as one of the few survivors of an assault on a forward airbase. She was embedded with his unit and saw the horrors that this weapon wrought upon the base and the team there, with only a half dozen men taking out almost the entire base of personnel. Only Gordon and Pvt. Bailey (yes, Beetle Bailey, just a wink) survived as they got to a helicopter to gain air superiority over the 6 men.

This film will be Arden and Zarkov trying to track down the source of the weapons, and X-9 will get wind of what they're doing and find them.

X-9 will realize that this is a completely new weapon ... no longer looking alien like all the weapons from the pipeline they previously shut down, and leading them to search for the new weapons pipeline. The problem is that every aspect of the pipeline is behind enemy lines, somewhere in Asia, as interplanetary portals don't need physical infrastructure.

X-9 has an idea. An old friend named Mandrake who has previously helped with non-physical threats. Mandrake's mystical powers should be capable of finding the portal, which is located in Cambodia. But he's hesitant to tell US authorities about this, as he's afraid of how these extraterrestrial weapons could change the power dynamics on Earth. So he pulls together a small team, Phantom, Thun, Mandrake, Zarkov, and Arden, to shut down the Cambodian portal in a war zone.

This does not go as planned. Mandrake's powers go haywire in the presence of the portal, rendering him not only useless but in need of medical attention. They have to go in close, and find themselves facing a squad of winged men who have an obvious tactical superiority over them, but using weapons from Mongo the earth team holds their own for a while, until another squad arrives from Mongo, but this time it's Thun's people.

Upon seeing this, Prince Thun rises from cover and roars to his people, and tells them that the resistance is here and now, and to lay down their arms.

They shut down the portal, and Thun's people tell the hawk people to stand down as well, but they refuse as King Vultan has sworn allegiance to the Emperor, and they fight to the last.

Having shut down the portal, Zarkov can finally get to work. He determines the mechanism was obviously brought here from off-world, and Phantom tracks it back to a ship landed in the Cambodian jungle. Zarkov starts to figure out how it works, and learns that it can portal to any planet within the Empire by creating a tesseract and folding space so that the points are adjacent.

So now they have alien weapons, a portal, and a spaceship that appears to have some sort of tesseract drive for long distance travel, which basically creates a portal right in front of the ship for it to fly through.

And a decision is made by the group. They will take the fight to Ming on Mongo, by strengthening the resistance at first, until they can figure out how to do something better.

Close on a reminder that Kyle Walker is still on Mongo, sharing a cell with Prince Barin.

Third film: Finally, a Flash Gordon movie.

Agent X-9 gets Alex Gordon assigned as their Army advisor by General Halftrack (yeah, another Beetle Bailey reference, I'd say sue me but it's the same IP holder). They need to keep the circle tight for now, and Gordon knows something is up.

The team will first go to Thun's world as a launching point, as they have a small squad of his men with them and the humans can be passed off as prisoners. The decision is made to go by portal while one of Thun's men stays behind to teach humans how to use the ship.

The team is Gordon, Zarkov, Arden, and Kit Walker. X-9 stays behind to coordinate, and Mandrake won't go as he's unsure how portal travel will impact him, or if his magics will work on other worlds.

The arrive and learn their "prisoner" deception was unnecessary. Thun's world is decimated, likely in response to his acts of rebellion. The skies are filled with King Voltan's armies that are loyal to Ming, and they quickly realize that there is nothing to be gained by staying on Thun's planet. They quickly turn around and reset the portal to Earth to regroup and come up with a new plan, but they are noticed and damage from the battle changes the settings to Ming's court, where they are immediately surrounded.

They are brought before Princess Aura, who summarily executes all of Thun's men to punish him for his rebellion. And then, she notices the man in the purple suit, and said she has another one just like him in the dungeon who has been quite troublesome for them. It's at this point that Phantom learns his son is on Mongo, to which he demands to see his son. Which she obliges by putting them all in the dungeon for later interrogation.

Barin and Thun, the leaders of two resistance movements, finally meet in the dungeon. Both of their kingdoms are decimated, and they have nothing to fight for but revenge. The Phantoms are reunited, but they have no hope as they have no way to escape.

At which point, Dale produces her concealed derringer that the weapon scanner missed as it's not an energy weapon. It's only 2 shots, but it's something to start with. She gives it to Flash, and they manage to break out and steal a small drop ship, which Gordon notes has a very similar layout to the helicopters he flies.

And that's when Zarkov starts to put it together. Ming has been grooming Earth since the 1300s, (Ming Dynasty, anyone?) pushing their development along by encouraging conflict and slipping in technological advances. Mongo has been heading towards environmental disaster for centuries, and Ming long ago identified that Earth was the perfect planet to replace Mongo, but it was too populated, so he encouraged wars to weaken the planet, but the humans were just to willing to set down arms and make peace for that plan to ever work. Mongo has less than 20 years left, and the energy weapons are the tool to accelerate the slaughter, as the nations of Earth have chosen not to use the nuclear weapons to obliterate the populations. Humans breed faster than anticipated, and are depleting the resources he wanted the planet for, so a mass extinction event that does not destroy the environment is what Ming needs.

A decision needs to be made; do they find a way to return to Earth to warn them, or do they try to stop the threat here on Mongo? Well, they actually make the rational decision to run home and warn Earth as they're just a handful of people; while Barin and Thun previously had armies, those are gone now. The 7 of them against a planet when they have no strategy, they all agree, means telling Earth is more important.

Their plan is as basic as can be; use the drop ship to fly into one of Ming's ports and steal a jump ship to return to Earth, with Thun and Barin. Just land as close to a ship as they can and make a run for it. This simple plan, of course, meets with resistance as they are spotted and start taking fire. Kit Walker holds his ground to defend the others and dies in battle defending them as they rush into the ship, only to be confronted by Imperial Guards.

While they manage to take out the guards, they discover that the ship they are trying to steal is Princess Aura's royal yacht, and she is aboard. They take her prisoner and jump back to Earth.

Cut to a military briefing room, with everyone there except Kyle Walker. They are briefing Gen. Halftrack, who has no choice to believe them as Thun is there, as well as several alien prisoners who were the Imperial guards from several different species.

But the next day, Halftrack tell him that he has orders to not act on this. Apparently, the US has been getting advancements from Ming's people all along, just like everyone else, and they don't want to give up the advantages they are being given. In fact, he has orders to return Princess Aura to Mongo via the portal in Chicago, left over from the Manhattan project.

Gen. Halftrack then gives Gordon an honorable discharge with a wink and tells him that he can't tell civilians not to fight back against Mongo.

That's the first 3, I think.

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How would you fixing this animated sitcom for everyone who watched Netflix with being a faithfully reboot

• Man Of Steel 3 [2018]- [7th film of the DCEU]- In this threequel after Man of Tomorrow and after the battle of Brainiac, Superman goes after Bizarro, a clone designed by Lex Luthor as the stakes are escalated even more and Clark also faces off against Lex in this final installment. Clark defeats Lex again with Lex going underground.

Post credits #1 builds towards Justice League 2 where we will get the infamous Injustice League

Post credits #2 builds towards Wonder Woman 2

• Wonder Woman 2 [2018]- [8th film of the DCEU]- We get Wonder Woman this time in present day...1984 doesn't happen here in this DCEU and the villain is Cheetah. Steve Trevor would not have died in the first place and ARGUS would also be introduced as well as The Oddfellows. Maxwell Lord would still be used here but just in present day. Supporting characters in the WW Family would be introduced.

Post credits scenes tease Batman and Wonder Woman 3

• The Caped Crusader [2019]- [9th film]- Sequel to World's Finest...but this would be a Batman movie strictly with the main villain would be Red Hood. Takes us to Gotham and no cameos from any Justice Leaguers but they would be mentioned only in conversation. We also get introduced to Dick Grayson in this film and it ultimately ends up in Dick becoming Nightwing by the end of the film. Red Hood doesn't die but he ends up in Arkham Asylum.

Post credits builds towards Justice League 2 and Batman 3

• The Suicide Squad [2019]- [10th film]- Basically what we got from James Gunn...we also get here as it sets them up as the ragtag group of the DCEU similar to how the Guardians of the Galaxy are for Marvel; Cena's Peacemaker becomes the new leader for the remaining team members.

Post credits #1 is a comedic scene but teases a potential new member joining their team and post credits #2 builds towards a potential hero joining the DCEU but who is it? We see Star Labs but who is it? It is The Atom

they way how they showcased the Upside Down was a (pun intended ) letdown from what i hoped. TBH it should had been a post Nuclear Hawkins either after the government drops a nuke on it or the mindflayer wins. That way not only would our characters be fighting the future but actively trying to prevent it from happening. Instead we got a edgelord who is Nihilist creating it.

what are you're thoughts how would you have done it? i'll do a in depth rewrite of all Stranger Things series later

1. Keep Clark and Lois together.
2. Introduce a new villain alongside Lex from Superman's rogues' gallery.
3. No five-year disappearance plot.
4. Make Brainiac the main villain.
5. Update the suit with light red, blue, and yellow, and keep the iconic "S" on the cape!

Maybe a hot take but it never made sense to be Dan. Nate even running The Spectator would’ve made it perfectly full circle.

The movie opens with the storybook like in the previous Shrek movies, except the storyteller is not Shrek, Charming, or Rumpelstiltskin. It reveals that one day Harold and Lillian were visiting Athens with a baby Fiona noticing how beautiful everything is. Then they enter the Temple of Athena and see a statue of Athena. They say that the statue of Athena is beautiful but not as beautiful as Fiona. Little do they know, the actual Greek goddess, Athena, heard them say that and she is angry over it (this in reference to how in Greek mythology, Greek gods and goddesses curse people over the pettiest of reasons) . So in revenge, she disguises herself as a witch and curses a baby Fiona, where she’s beautiful by day and ugly by night. Then it cuts back to the book where it talks about everything else (she gets put in a tower guarded by a dragon, gets rescued by Shrek and gives her true love’s kiss, and they live happily ever after). It ends up revealing the storyteller is Athena who was reading this story to the other Greek gods at Mount Olympus who congratulate her for keeping Fiona ugly forever. The Greek gods here fit the more accurate depiction of being huge selfish jerks except one. The Greek gods party on Mount Olympus while Greek Goddess of music and dance Calliope (played by Dua Lipa) sings “Levitating”. But everything stops when Hades arrives – he’s a nice guy but a nervous wreck who the other gods dislike and would talk about how “evil” he is who accidentally falls and breaks valuable stuff (such as Artemis’s bow and Zeus’s lightning bolt). Hades tries to fit in and is bad at it and even tries to talk to Aphrodite as a friend but she thinks he’s flirting and laughs in response and gets everyone else to laugh at Hades, where Hades leaves sad. Zeus asks Hera “Where’s Athena?” and Hera replies “Oh, probably offering wisdom to some soldier and warfare to some philosopher”. Then it cuts to Athena in her home waiting for the Fates. The Fates arrive and they tell her that in five minutes, a planetary alignment will allow her to free the Titans to conquer Olympus but warns that she will be defeated by “a figure in green”. Athena decides to better start soon and decides to free the Titans, who show up to Mount Olympus, and defeat and kick the other Greek gods out. They decide to stay with Hades in the underworld but Poseidon offers to stay at his place and Zeus says “No, we are not staying underwater”. Hades hears the doorbell to the underworld ring and sees the other Greek gods ask if they can stay in his place and Hades, being a goody goody, lets them stay but his wife Persephone dislikes how much of a mess they make. Hades feels that because of the other gods, the underworld feels full (it’s not actually full he just feels that way), so he tries to find a way to send them somewhere seemingly empty – Shrek’s swamp – and sends some souls to flow there.

We cut to Shrek’s swamp, where Shrek and Fiona are dealing with stuff in their personal life. Their ogre triplets—Fergus, Farkle, and Felicia—have entered their teenage years. Shrek and Fiona leave their kids alone to celebrate their anniversary and come back to see their home trashed as their kids threw a party and Shrek says the party’s over and then roars to scare everyone out and then grounds Farkle, Fergus, and Felicia. Then Puss, Kitty Softpaws, and Perrito arrive and Shrek and Fiona are happy to see them with Shrek’s kids calling them “Uncle Puss and Aunt Softpaws” and we see interactions between Fiona and Softpaws and Donkey and Perrito. There’s an emotional scene where Shrek is alone with Fiona and they talk about how he can't stand how much the kids have changed and wishes they were babies again with Fiona telling them that the kids are becoming their own individual people and stuff. Then after that, Shrek sees all the souls from Hades’s underworld flying around everywhere and bothering him and Fiona. Shrek hears Felicia’s screaming from her room who sees her with the soul of a gold miner who gets him away. Then Shrek sees all the souls flowing around his house and sees them in his yard and Shrek yells the iconic “WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN OUR SWAMP!” (It makes sense that it’s “our” instead of “my” since Shrek has a family now). One of the souls tells Shrek that they were kicked out of the underworld by Hades for being too crammed and that they would have to go to the underworld in Athens to talk to him. So Shrek, Fiona, Kitty, Puss, Donkey, and Perro ride Dragon to go to Athens and they have the Big Bad Wolf (the one with the dress, not the scary one in the Puss in Boots sequel) babysit Shrek’s kids.

So they go to Athens and they try to talk to people but everyone is too busy heading towards the Olympic games. So Shrek and the gang go towards the stadium where the Olympics are, but when Shrek shows up to try to talk to someone, the Athenian statesman makes a new game called “kill the Ogre” where whoever wins gets all the gold metals. So Shrek, Puss, and Kitty fights and beats all the best athletes and boxers in Athens and after that asks where the underworld is with the Athenian statesman nervously saying the directions. Meanwhile, Athena sees it all from far away in Mount Olympus and fears this is “the figure in green” that will defeat her, so she decides to send various monsters over to try to defeat Shrek. She first sends Medusa, who unlike most depictions is a happy go lucky girl common in modern Disney movies. Puss is the first person to point out about Medusa when they meet and they cover their eyes and Shrek defeats by simply grabbing a ball and having her chase it like a dog. Athena decides to send more monsters to defeat Shrek and it shows a montage of Shrek facing various monsters and beating them for very silly and ridiculous reasons (such as simply farting and having the monster get passed out or simply roaring so loud it scares them).

Shrek finally arrives in the underworld and Puss is horrified since he might run into “an unstoppable enemy who wants me here”. Shrek meets Hades and points out how Hades dumped all of these souls into his swamp. Hades then explains that it’s because of Athena who used the titans to kick them out of Mount Olympus and how because of that the underworld is full. Shrek tells him the underworld does not appear full and says that it’s bigger than his swamp but Hades feels overwhelmed by the amount of gods and souls in it. Hades says the only way for things to return to normal for everyone is if they face Athena and he knows the way. Shrek, hesitant to work with a nervous wreck such as Hades, asks the other gods if they can take him to Mount Olympus, but no one else but Hades wants to. Persephone joins too because she’s sick of sharing a room with Artemis and wants to give support to Hades. So, they all leave the underworld and go to Mount Olympus where they face Athena. Along the way, Hades tells Shrek and the others that he ended up getting the underworld because he got the shortest straws and talks about how everybody is a jerk to him except Persephone and even then the others hated that he’s happy with someone with Demeter setting up a complex schedule system and try to limit time with being with Persephone, his wife. They then arrive at Mount Olympus, with Athena says “it’s you” to herself introducing herself and revealing to be the one who brought all those monsters and also reveals to Fiona she’s the one who cursed her as a baby. Athena then decides to imprison Shrek and the buddies who get rescued by Shrek’s kids.

Athena launches her plan to go from conquering the immortals to conquering the mortals by having her and the titans attack and conquer Athens. They arrive in Athens with the Athenians screaming and panicking over it. Shrek, Hades, and the others arrive and Athena shows up and says “Hey, Hades, I went into the underworld and decided to borrow something of yours”. Then we see Athena with all of Shrek and Puss’s deceased enemies (Lord Farquaad and his knights, Fairy Godmother, Charming, and Big Jack Horner and his Baker’s Dozen). As Shrek, Hades, Puss, and Fiona face their old enemies, dead and alive, a battle occurs in Athens between them, the Titans, and their deceased enemies. While that happens the other Greek gods return to Mount Olympus and watch it with Calliope singing a cover of “I Need A Hero/Holding Out For A Hero” while the heroes fight the bad guys (she says to put in "G Minor" but it's in C minor as a reference to Shrek 2 where Fairy Godmother says to put in "C Minor" but it's in "G Minor") with Fairy Godmother hearing it from far and saying "Hey, that's my song!" . There’s a “girl’s fight” scene where Fiona, Kitty, Dragon, and Persephone defeat a titan together. They defeat the bad guys but Athena escapes and captures Shrek’s kids to the Underworld. They follow Athena to the underworld and she threatens to drop his kids into the river of souls. Shrek’s kids escape, Athena falls into the river of souls and asks Hades to save her. Hades then punches Athena and Athena finds out “the figure in green” that defeats her isn’t Shrek but Hades as Hades had teal or turquoise skin. She gets unconscious and goes into the river.

Shrek and the others are welcomed on Mount Olympus and Zeus offers to make Shrek a demi-god but Shrek declines and Hades gets a warm acceptance by the others and is accepted by everyone as a great god and hero. Then the dance party occurs when Calliope sings “Dance The Night” and everyone dances on Mount Olympus with Athena dancing under the river of souls.

This isn't my idea, it's something I found online and in a fanfic.net post. Normally, I don't take ideas from there because there not all that good and ridiculous, but I feel like this could've worked with Ahsoka. It's from a The Force Unleashed 3 Fanfic (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14164444/28/The-Force-Unleashed-III) where they have Darth Plagueis as the villain, and to beat him, Starkiller has to overload him with Midichlorians (why I say ridiculous), and he loses his Force Abilities.

Then, Vader locates him, and he tries to plead with Vader to let him go, knowing that there's good in him. Vader, ultimately, chooses to let him go on the condition that he never return to the galaxy or the Rebellion, and that he's not supposed to make Palpatine think that he did anything other than kill him. I think, if executed well, this could work with Ahsoka.

To get Ahsoka to this point, you'd have to take away her abilities. Given your on Malachor, and that you're exploring Sith Lore, you could find a way to do that and set it up properly. It's easy to write.

So, let's you take away Ahsoka's abilities with something on Malachor, and that gives Kanan and Ezra a way to escape, you'd have to imigane it detail-by-detail but with good writing it could work, and then you have her surrender to Vader, explaining what's happened to her, and expecting her death, and her saying that deep down he didn't want to become this, and that she doesn't want to fight Anakin because he's still her friend. She'll she doesn't care what happens to her, but she wishes she wouldn't have to die knowing Anakin has the pain and guilt of killing her to live with.

Vader then deactivates his lightsaber and the conversation will go like this...

Vader: You will have a headstart. Five minutes. If you linger, you die.

Ahsoka: You're - you're not killing me?

Vader: You will take my ship. If you deactivate it's transponder, you die!

Ahsoka: Anakin...

Vader: You will go to the Unknown Regions of the galaxy. If you return to public life, if you return to the rebellion, you die.

Ahsoka's crying, but with tears of joy, knowing Anakin isn't dead.

Vader: If you reveal anything that has transpired here between you and me, if you give The Emperor any impression I did anything other than strike you down- you die!

Vader: And if you ever cross path again- you DIE!

This solves a lot of issues with Ahsoka's survival that Filoni didn't work to correct, while also doing more than what Rebels actually did.

A. You're providing a reason why Ahsoka doesn't help The Rebel Alliance or Luke in The OT. She can't connect with The Force, so she doesn't have the abilities that she used too. Also, there's a tracker on her ship, so going back to The Rebel Alliance would only lead Vader right to them, and deactivating it would only result in Vader hunting her down and going deeper into The Dark Side.

B. It still does invent a dues-ex-machina, a weapon that can disable Force-abilities, but it's one use only and you'd be able to write it that way. However, it's not time travel or The WBW, and your not using a very egregious dues-ex-machina like they actually did, and it does more than just bring Ahsoka back, which goes into Point C.

C. This enhances Vader's character and his redemption, because we see a little bit of good him, and we know that he isn't all bad. It also enhances Ahsoka's character and her not being a Jedi because we see how she, unlike Obi-Wan and Yoda believed in Vader and staked her life on it. We get to see depth and actually finish there confrontation in a more emotional way (it was already emotional how it originally was done, but this would be more emotional) than using the WBW to keep her alive.

D. We put Ahsoka in a position where she's interesting after ROTJ. She lost her Force Abilities, maybe she has to get them back or she dies, and maybe Luke can help her with that. Or maybe she just doesn't get them back and that's the price she has to pay for staking her life on Anakin not being gone. She also missed what happened to Alderaan (and she can't sense it like Obi-Wan did because she can't use The Force), to Bail, to Kanan, to Obi-Wan, Vader being turned back, and so much more, and she had no idea that it happened. Seeing how she processes it all would be very interesting and compelling. We'd get to due an in-depth study of how the passage of time away can effect someone, and tell a story of substance.

E. Ahsoka's still in The Unknown Regions, which places her close to Ezra if you still want to do that plot-line or some version of Ahsoka of Sabine and Ahsoka looking for him. You can even merge that with Ahsoka learning about what's been happening through Sabine, and there wedge could be about her not being there and not doing anything to help. Do something deeper than just giving a character The Force that shouldn't have it.

Frozen Empire has some really neat ideas (Ancient ghostbusters, Phoebe’s relationship with Melody, the Possessor, everything Dan Akroyd, Paul Rudd, James Acaster and Ernie Hudson do) but it’s bogged down by far too many characters and slavish fanservice. Afterlife was meant to pass the torch, but so much of Frozen Empire is still replaying the greatest hits. I’m trying to streamline the movie and emphasize its new ideas

OPENING AND CHANGED VILLAIN

• Instead of firefighters, we open on a 1900s team of ghost-hunters locking the villain Garraka away, led by Nadeem’s great-grandmother
• Sealing Garraka away causes a huge explosion, and as we pull out of the burning building, we see a new ghost fly away. This is Melody, the ghost-girl, paralleling Egon’s ghost leaving his farmhouse in Afterlife's opening
• Melody’s family were cultists who tried to summon big-bad Garraka. She’s the one who called the ghost-hunters to stop them, but was killed in the confrontation
• Garraka tells Melody that her ‘unfinished business’ is summoning him to this dimension—the ritual she stopped her family completing. The only way she can be free is freeing him.
• This establishes Melody’s distrust of ghost hunters, because they killed her

CUT CHARACTERS

• Venkman and Janine don’t need to be here at all, they’re gone
• Cut Podcast. Ray wistfully watches the opening car-chase  alone, out-of-the-loop. He seizes on the arrival of the Orb as his chance to get back in on the action. Podcast's absence also heightens Phoebe’s isolation
• Cut Lucky. Her only real moment is defending Phoebe from Garraka, which itself was cut down from the trailers

THE AQUARIUM & COMMUNING WITH GHOSTS

• ‘Garraka wants to free the ghosts in the Firehouse’ is yet another reused plotpoint in a film full of them.
• Instead the (much bigger) property damage in the opening chase loses the team the Firehouse completely, increasing Phoebe’s guilt and isolation
• They’ve already been moving ghosts into Winston’s Aquarium lab, so go straight there
• They’re testing new technology- think Ghostbusters (2016)’s ghost-chipper, proton-gloves, proton-grenades etc. Callie tests this stuff (bc she has nothing to do otherwise), bonding with Winston as the table uncle-figure she never had.
• James Acaster's Dr. Lars is trying to communicate with the caged ghosts, to learn about the other side- he tries to interrogate one to no avail
• The idea of someone volunteering to go on 'expeditions' as a ghost via the Spirit Extractor, like an abassador to the Afterlife, is brought up- both Phoebe and Ray are tempted
• This makes Phoebe talking to Melody an incredible discovery- a sentient, talking ghost who apparently fully retains her humanity.

MELODY’S FAMILY

• When Phoebe finds Melody in the diner, it’s because that's is where she was killed- where her family tried to summon Garraka.
• Now the Orb is uncontained her family’s ghosts have become active again, and descend from the upper floors of the building to attack the diner.
• Melody’s family are a Cluster Ghost- an amorphous blob of limbs and heads bonded by the sane traumatic cause of death, tripping over itself to get to her. This physical manifestation of her family trying to drag her down parallels Phoebe’s conflict about hers.
• Phoebe now takes Melody on a tour of the Aquarium and they bond there, rather than the Firehouse

TREVOR

• Finn Wolfhard's Trevor had fuck-all to do in this movie lmao
• Replace his pointless sublpot with Slimer with him bonding with the Possessor ghost, which communicates through switching TV stations/radio channels.
• The Possessor would probably need some kind of cute visual manifestation to sell this. Think Mogwai, Lilo and Stitch etc Slapstick antagonism turned genuine fun, games of catch etc
• With Podcast gone, Trevor accompanies Phoebe and Ray to the library. When the Possessor tries to steal the chant recording he tries to reason with it- c'mon, man, I thought we were bonding, this isn’t you, Garraka’s controlling you, only to get absolutely dunked on
• Ray’s research reveals that Garraka’s horns- the 'object' that allows its apparition to manifest- were hidden away separately from the orb

NADEEM'S GRANDMOTHER

• To build on the theme of communicating with and humanizing ghosts, instead of pyrokenesis (which felt a little out of place) Kumail Nanjiani's Nadeem is literally possessed by his estranged grandmother.
• The idea Nadeem was 'haunted' is already suggested, but by making it explicit we get the slapstick of her puppeteering his body and chewing him out for neglecting his family legacy- arguing with the same mouth etc
• Swap Venkman questioning Nadeem with Callie, holding a comedic seance. This gives her a much-needed emotional beat bonding with him over their baggage with their ghost-hunting relatives (Egon vs Grandma). Callie expresses how it feels to reconnect with her dad's legacy, which Frozen Empire never gave us.
• She then replaces Podcast helping Nadeem try to hone his powers- in this case, help him and his grandmother work together

GARRAKA THE GHOST-EMPEROR

• Garraka can't manifest as a full apparition without its horns.
• It's more like the Mind Flayer from Stranger Things, a hive-mind that works through other ghosts. When the ancient ghost-hunters banished Garraka to the Other Side it took over, and has ruled there ever since. This is the 'frozen empire' he's looking to expand
• In this way ghosts are shifted from no longer strictly antagonistic, but victims of a cruel tyrant
•  When Melody tricks Phoebe into freeing Garraka, it tries to take Phoebe's ghost as a vassal, but Melody volunteers herself to save her. Phoebe returns to her body just in time to see Melody be possessed.
• Now Melody is more directly involved in the climax, giving the antagonist a complex, sympathetic face
• Dr. Lars replaces Lucky trying to stop Garraka. It kills him to up the stakes

FINALE

• Garraka takes Melody to the Diner, where she joins with her family’s Cluster, spreading its supernatural winter as it goes

• Change the Death Chill so everyone Garraka chills has their spriti pulled out of them, to join it army of spectral drones. Everywhere it goes it's recruiting, getting stronger. If it finds its second horn it will be able to 'recruit' all of New York

• Expand on the Possessor using the Ghostbusters’ own gear to fight them. It steals the Ecto-1 and all the old Proton packs

• The new generation of Ghostbusters have to use the new tech they’ve been developing to defeat the old stuff.

• Nadeem and his Grandmother finally call a truce and work together to play defence bending the proton streams. She grumbles about how bad this generation of ghost-hunters is

• Trevor's bond with the Possessor causes it conflict when it tries to kill him- it fights itself, the equipment it's possessing self-destructing

• From here it’s a race to stop Garraka collecting its horns. Garraka successfully finds the first, increasing the scale and power of the big freeze

• In the final confrontation Phoebe lets Garraka pull her spirit from her body to loosen its hold on Melody. Melody lights her match: Her unfinished business wasn't to summon Garraka, it was to finish destroying him as she tried to when she died. Nadeem and his Grandmother incinerate the thing.

• Again taking a good idea from Ghostbusters (2016), Phoebe is given the choice go to the Other Side with Melody, to finally discover and understand what happens next. Her family ask her to come back, hold on. Melody says that Phoebe should accept their love and support, as she was never loved or supported by her own family

• Melody kisses Phoebe goodbye, because not following through on that (when we’ve seen ghosts make similar physical contact with people before) is taking the coward’s way out. They should've cast a minor!!

• Nadeem's Grandmother gives her blessing to the ghost-hunters who inherited her family's responsibilities. Then she leaves his body and offers to guide Melody to the Other Side, apologizing for her death on her mother's behalf

• We end with Podcast and Lucky finally arriving in New York for a summer internship with the Ghostbusters.

• Dr. Lars has returned as a ghost to be an 'ambassador' to the Other Side (playing a ghost would really unleash James Acaster's weird and whacky side), and the Possessor is even working with them as a new team mascot.

• Ray has settled into a role as the team's full-time researcher, rather than working in the field

Imagine if you do this, Ben sees a vision of Luke’s green lightsaber plunged into his chest, and he, given that Luke’s concerned that he’ll go to The Dark Side and Snoke’s minipulation, gives into his fear of being killed by Luke.

Snoke will tell him that Vader wanted to stop people from dying and that Ben should finish what he started and save himself. When Ben kills Snoke, it’s because the Dark Side nor The Light Side hasn’t given him power to save himself and he’ll want to go out on his own to make his own destiny or something like that.

Leading into Episode 9, where his fear has become anger, his anger hate, and his hate will lead into his death, which will cause suffering for him and those who wanted to save him.

This also gives him a goal throughout the whole trilogy, which is beat his death. If you want, maybe have him learn when day he will die, and that will add pressure for him.

And make sure that Anakin is attempting to save him constantly and have him haunted by his Ghost or have Kylo just not want to hear him or his guidance and give a legit reason for Anakin not appearing to Kylo.