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AFCN Standings

W-L Home Away Div Streak
BAL 11-5 5-2 6-3 3-2 W 3
PIT 10-6 5-2 5-4 3-2 L 3
CIN 8-8 3-5 5-3 2-3 W 4
CLE 3-13 2-6 1-7 2-3 L 5

2024 PRESEASON

Date Time Opponent Final
Saturday 8/10 4:25 Packers L 23-10
Saturday 8/17 4:25 Vikings L 27-12
Saturday 8/24 10:00 at Seahawks L 37-33

2024 SCHEDULE

Date Time Opponent Final
Sunday 9/8 4:25 Cowboys L 33-17
Sunday 9/15 1:00 at Jaguars W 18-13
Sunday 9/22 1:00 Giants L 21-15
Sunday 9/29 4:25 at Raiders L 20-16
Sunday 10/6 1:00 at Commanders L 34-13
Sunday 10/13 1:00 at Eagles L 20-16
Sunday 10/20 1:00 Bengals L 21-14
Sunday 10/27 1:00 Ravens W 29-24
Sunday 11/3 1:00 Chargers L 27-10
Sunday 11/10 N/A -> BYE WEEK <- N/A
Sunday 11/17 1:00 at Saints L 35-14
Thursday 11/21 8:15 Steelers W 24-19
Monday 12/2 8:15 at Broncos L 41-32
Sunday 12/8 1:00 at Steelers L 27-14
Sunday 12/15 1:00 Chiefs L 21-7
Thursday 12/19 8:15 at Bengals L 24-6
Sunday 12/29 8:20 Dolphins L 20-3
Saturday 1/04 4:30 at Ravens TBD

2024 DRAFT

Round - Overall Pick Player Position School
2.54 Michael Hall Jr. DT Ohio State
3.85 Zak Zinter G Michigan
5.156* Jamari Thrash WR Louisville
6.206** Nathaniel Watson LB Mississippi State
7.227*** Myles Harden CB South Dakota
7.243 Jowon Briggs DT Cincinnati
*From PHI via ARZ - Josh Dobbs Trade
**From BAL - 2023 NFL Draft Trade
***From TEN - Leroy Watson IV Trade

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Great breakdown on Jalen Milroe

12 Comments
2025/02/03
02:06 UTC

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What will Jimmy Haslam have to do to become more hated than Art Modell?

122 Comments
2025/02/02
01:49 UTC

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A Thorough Analysis of Abdul Carter: The Cleveland Browns’ Next Great Quarterback?

Ladies and gentlemen, Browns fans, and suffering souls everywhere. Please allow me to present the solution to all of Cleveland’s quarterback woes: Abdul Carter. The Penn State edge rusher. A man whose job description literally involves chasing quarterbacks, but hear me out, cause if there’s one thing the Browns love more than disappointment, it’s a bold, completely unhinged gamble at the most important position in football.

Why Abdul Carter?

First, let’s address the obvious: Carter is not a quarterback. But honestly, has that ever stopped the Browns before? This is the franchise that once gave Brock Osweiler a shot, convinced themselves that Johnny Manziel was a long-term solution, and treated Baker Mayfield like he was nothing more than a brand ambassador for Progressive Insurance. However, Carter brings elite athleticism, standing at 6’3”, 250 pounds with the kind of explosiveness that would make most defensive linemen reconsider their career choices. And let’s be real: if he can evade blockers and obliterate quarterbacks, surely he can handle something as simple as dodging a few angry defensive ends while launching a Hail Mary downfield.

Arm Talent?

Now, I know what you’re thinking: “But does he have an arm?” Excellent question! And while there’s no documented evidence that Abdul Carter has ever thrown a football in his life, let’s not pretend that’s an actual deal breaker. Tim Tebow got an NFL contract, so there’s precedent for quarterbacks who throw like they’re skipping rocks. Plus, we've spent the better part of two decades watching quarterbacks throw passes directly to defenders so at worst, Carter fits right in.

Pocket Awareness?

Carter’s pocket presence would be revolutionary. Instead of the typical slowmotion sack that Browns fans have come to expect, imagine a quarterback who actively fights back. Defenders closing in? No problem. Instead of scrambling, Carter can just hit them with a swim move, stiff arm a safety into retirement, and truck stick his way into the end zone. The Browns haven’t had this much offensive electricity since… well, ever.

Browns History Demands This

This is the same team that once had three different QBs throw for a touchdown in the same game. Consistency has never been the Browns’ thing so why not embrace it? Abdul Carter wouldn’t just be a dark horse QB he’d be a chaotic stallion, galloping fearlessly into the abyss of Browns history. The league isn't ready for this kind of innovation.

So, to all Browns fans out there who have suffered long enough, I say: why not Abdul Carter? After all, the worst thing that could happen is well, the same thing that always happens.

28 Comments
2025/02/01
21:15 UTC

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A noticeable and lazy pattern of Shedeur Sanders comparisons

Shedeur Sanders NFL Draft 2025 scouting report: NFL landing spots, pro comparison, prospect ranking, accolades - CBSSports.com: Geno Smith

Shedeur Sanders NFL Draft 2025: Scouting Report for Colorado QB | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report: Teddy Bridgewater

2025 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Shedeur Sanders – WalterFootball: Geno Smith

Scouting Shedeur Sanders: Colorado quarterback similar in style, skill set to Pro Bowler Geno Smith: Geno Smith

I think it would be silly not to draft a QB that has been highly accurate in the same offensive concepts as Kevin Stefanski utilizes.

Another thing occurred to me when watching Shedeur's highlights: normally I would remind myself that obviously a highlight reel can make any QB look good, but the thing with Sanders is that he completed 74% of his throws last year. In any given game if we were to watch every throw we would, on average, only see 9-10 incomplete passes when he was throwing 36-38 times a game. Last thing: It's mind blowing that in 4 seasons as a starter between two programs he only had 5 multiple-interception games and has never thrown more than 2 in a game.

From a skill point of view, he is more of a Baker Mayfield comparison than Teddy Bridgewater or Geno Smith. About the same size. Shedeur has a faster 40-time (4.65 to 4.8). They're both highly accurate. Biggest difference is that Shedeur has a cleaner release coming out of college (because of his bad footwork Baker would have to throw the ball more violently to get it to travel on more of a tight rope. This has gotten much better since going to Tampa). Shedeur also seems to be more mature (unless you can find a video of him dodging a cop while drunk, let's not debate this).

133 Comments
2025/02/01
19:10 UTC

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I’m afraid I’m not gonna make it to see a Browns Super Bowl win

I’m currently in my early 30’s, where doctors visits become more and more frequent. And unfortunately on my last visit they found something.

He informed me that despite being in great health, peak physical shape, I don’t have much time left. I only have another 40-45 years left to live. And we all know the Browns aren’t going to win a Super Bowl before then.

Now if the Browns win the Super Bowl after I am gone I don’t want you guys to despair, I want you guys to celebrate the Browns victory like there’s no tomorrow. Enjoy it for me. Just promise you’ll keep me alive in your memories.

165 Comments
2025/02/01
14:18 UTC

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I wish the browns had a better logo

I know the helmet is a logo that’s not a logo and it’s a no nonsense kinda thing but it’s boring. I was merch and graphics with a logo that’s pops and looks good. Something that would be cool to have on a shirt or hat you know? Brownie or the dog are both good but don’t get utilized properly. Please give us a good logo… and maybe win some games.

23 Comments
2025/02/01
06:25 UTC

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Nate Tice and Dane Brugler’s Senior Bowl Reaction: Jalen Milroe and Jaxson Dart, dark horse QBs

58 Comments
2025/01/31
21:23 UTC

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Free Talk Friday

Talk about what's on your mind

Normal Rules still apply.

73 Comments
2025/01/31
14:00 UTC

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Cam Ward & Shedeur Sanders

58 Comments
2025/01/31
04:35 UTC

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Obstructed view tickets

Hello all!

We recently purchased tickets to Morgan Wallen and the tickets have an obstructed view. It’s in section 117 row 38. It seems like a descent view but wanted to get everyone’s input on how obstructed this view might be? Thanks in advance!!

9 Comments
2025/01/31
00:04 UTC

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This graphic is messing with my brain…

31 Comments
2025/01/30
04:53 UTC

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[Browns Film Breakdown on X]

64 Comments
2025/01/29
20:54 UTC

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[The Bark Tank] Catching up with GM Andrew Berry & Bubba Ventrone at the Senior Bowl!

3 Comments
2025/01/29
18:46 UTC

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Fan Mock Draft 1.0

I wanted to put together a mock draft to see what fans want at different times in the off-season and make a video on it. I will be doing a mock draft prior to free agency, post free agency, and after the combine. The player that is either most commented or most upvoted will be considered the pick. I will be going around every subreddit to see who they pick. Let me know what you guys believe your biggest team needs are as well.

Draft Results

  1. Tennessee Titans:

Cam Ward, QB

  1. Cleveland Browns:

Abdul Carter, EDGE

  1. New York Giants:

  2. New England Patriots:

  3. Jacksonville Jaguars:

  4. Las Vegas Raiders:

  5. New York Jets:

  6. Carolina Panthers:

  7. New Orleans Saints:

  8. Chicago Bears:

  9. San Francisco 49ers:

  10. Dallas Cowboys:

  11. Miami Dolphins:

  12. Indianapolis Colts:

  13. Atlanta Falcons:

  14. Arizona Cardinals:

  15. Cincinnati Bengals:

  16. Seattle Seahawks:

  17. Tampa Bay Buccaneers:

  18. Denver Broncos:

  19. Pittsburgh Steelers:

  20. Los Angeles Chargers:

  21. Green Bay Packers:

  22. Minnesota Vikings:

  23. Houston Texans:

  24. Los Angeles Rams:

  25. Baltimore Ravens:

  26. Detroit Lions:

  27. Washington Commanders:

  28. Buffalo Bills:

  29. Philadelphia Eagles:

  30. Kansas City Chiefs:

128 Comments
2025/01/29
17:39 UTC

275

MVP = ORANGE PANTS

Always loved this picture

29 Comments
2025/01/29
12:39 UTC

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Shedeur & Cam Ward working on drills

8 Comments
2025/01/29
06:12 UTC

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Hey all, does the math in this look accurate?

Long. Long, longitty long long, long.

Browns vs Fibonacci

Fibonacci (also known as Leonardo Fibonacci, Leonardo Bonacci or Leonardo Pisano) was born in Pisa, Italy in 1170 and died around 1250. He was a talented mathematician[1] probably most famous for popularising the Arabic numbering system and a number sequence named after him - The Fibonacci sequence or Fibonacci numbers.[2]

I, on the other hand, am not a talented mathematician. I'm a Browns fan.

Nevertheless I'm about to link Fibonacci numbers - more precisely the Fibonacci spiral[3] - with the performance of the Cleveland Browns onwards from the disastrous 2016 and 2017 seasons.[4] Note, not attempting to link, actually linking.

By the way, before the mathematicians shout at me, though closely linked to the Golden spiral[5], Fibonacci's is composed of a series of 90° arcs within squares of increasing size. It's not a 'pure', continuous geometric shape thingy.

Here's an image rotated from the Wikipedia original of the Fibonacci spiral in coloured squares, numbered upto 21[6].

A link to a Fibonacci spiral, with the 1 ,1 ,2 ,3, 5, 8, 13 and 21 squares coloured respectively white, magenta, purple, blue, cyan, green, orange and red. The image and thus the numbers are upside down because it better-illustrates the point I wish to make. Note: best opened in a new tab, you have to look at it upside-down.

We shall start on this silly journey with the Browns 2016 season represented by the white square. 2016 was bad for the team. Really bad. 1 win from 16 games played. The arc goes up a bit and to the left.

2017 was bad. Worse. Absolutely dire. So the arc in the magenta square drops to the left, representing the zero (0) wins from 16 games.

Now 2018 is when I became a fan of the team. Although the purple arc goes downwards it goes to the right. 2018 brought 7 wins and a tie (!) from 16 games. Woohoo! It was a season of promise, of hope. And we got rid of Head Coach Hue Jackson. Which was nice.

In 2019 the progress regressed a bit, to 6 wins from 16 games, so although the blue arc goes up and to the right it doesn't fit this scheme I'm outlining. 2019 was generally seen by Browns fans to be a disappointing aberration, so I'm giving Fibonacci a pass on this one. He's no Nostradamus[7] so couldn't have foreseen Head Coach Freddie Kitchens - promoted beyond his ability at the time.

2020, wow. Cyan, numbered '5'. The curve goes up and to the left. An 11 win season from 16. We vaulted into the playoffs, beating the steelers twice in succession, and only falling to the Kansas City Chiefs in the Divisonal Playoffs. Probably the most enjoyable season of football I've ever seen. Kevin Stefanski, Head Coach of the Year.

Now, in 2021 you'd expect the team to capitalise on the preceding season. But no. The green arc goes downwards and to the left. We won 8 games from the expanded schedule of 17 games. Not great. Injuries at crucial positions screwed us over and so disappointment was again the order of that year.

And then we lost quarterback Baker Mayfield.

2022? Orange, down, right. Regression again, 7 wins from 17 games. Injuries. Meh.

In 2023 we won 11 games from 17. We got into the playoffs and fell immediately to the Houston Texans. Red square, upwards and to the right. We did it with a quarterback dragged off his sofa halfway through the year and plugged into the offense. Joe 'Elite Dragon' Flacco.

Still with me?

Let's carry the sequence on then, for the 2024 season just ended. For us at least. A mere 3 wins from 17 games. So, what does the arc do with a teeny bit of extrapolation? Up, to the left. Colour? Black I'd imagine. Even accounting for our quarter-billion quarterback woes this was a bad one.

SeasonW-L-TFibonacci
20161-15-0↖️
20170-16-0↙️
20187-8-1↘️
20196-10-0↗️
202011-5-0↖️
20218-9-0↙️
20227-10-0↘️
202311-6-0↗️
20243-14-0↖️
2025Who knows?↙️

2025 will have an arc heading down and to the left. Pain for us fans? Of course it is, we're Browns fans. Colour Brown then? It's expected that 2025 will be a rebuilding year of sorts for us. Fans are already talking about the dearth of quarterback talent in this year's draft and so pushing for a mediocre-to-tanking season to get a better 2026 pick.

I'm not one of those fans.

But you can't argue with the mathematics of all this.

Can you?

Of course you can, we're Browns fans!


Footnotes? Oh yes!

[1]: The life, works and legacy of Fibonacci (Wikipedia).

[2]: The Fibonacci sequence (Wikipedia).

[3]: The Fibonacci spiral (Wikipedia).

[4]: A List of Cleveland Browns seasons (Wikipedia).

[5]: The Golden spiral (Wikipedia). Linked here for the continuously zooming/magnifying image at the top of the page. Oooh, mathematics porn!

[6]: Wikipedia image by Romain, credits.

[7]: Noted seer Nostradamus (Wikipedia).


The math post earlier by u/TheRealTacoBellMan prompted me to throw this lightly-reworked blog post up here. Sorry. :)

17 Comments
2025/01/28
23:24 UTC

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After seeing some of the photos and video of the Bills and Chiefs game

Why wouldn't anyone want a giant parking lot for tailgating? That looked like a hell of a party.

9 Comments
2025/01/28
21:29 UTC

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hey guys does my math look accurate

27 Comments
2025/01/28
20:36 UTC

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