/r/AnimalIntelligence
They say that intelligent life is somewhere out there. But what about right here at home?
Hello, we are /r/AnimalIntelligence. A sub-reddit for discussing intelligent life (other then humans) here on earth. Our goal is to better understand animals and become aware of their intelligence.
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For my master's in animal welfare, I explored whether there's a link between an owner's job stress and their pet's stress level. I found a link between owners' job stress and their dog's stress, and that ruminating about negative work-related issues explained this link. I did not find the link in cats, but I sampled very few cats so I caution against reading into that result. Cat, along with dog, stress did show an association with their owner's home-related stress. This finding supports the phenomenon of emotional contagion in both cats and dogs. Thank you to everyone in this sub who participated, and you can read more about the study here: https://vtechworks.lib.vt.edu/items/76fbb198-337e-422b-b9ca-4e60c070b572 (Why is Fido Stressed? Crossover of Employees’ Job Stress to their Pets). Or feel free to message me for a copy!
The rat does not speak English or cook meals, but it shows an interest in human technology. The cover art shows a rat looking intently at a pocket watch. It is a known behavior of crows to not only be interested in shiny objects but also to give them as presents to humans who have managed to befriend them. Perhaps rats might do the same sort of thing.
Moreover, in real life rats have been observed apparently deliberately riding in subway cars and getting off at another station as the rat in this book does.
This is an audiobook narrated by Berger entitled The Rider.
Are pets influenced by their owners' stress? Virginia Tech researchers are recruiting participants for a research study on stress shared between employees and their pets. Participation will consist of completion of an online opt-in survey (10-15 minutes) asking about your pet (dog or cat), your job, and yourself. For more information, please contact Tanya Mitropoulos at tmitrop@vt.edu. Thank you!
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I have two dogs and each has a very different type of intelligence from the other. I will do my best to explain how one of them recently surprised me with her understanding of light and shadows.
In my house, like in many, the backyard sliding glass door sits unaligned to but opposite the front door, of which mine has a white-tinted sidelight. However, between the house layout and the backyard having so much vegetation, it is very rare for any angled light from the backyard to make it's way very far into the house. At least 99% of the time, if there is a shadow casted onto the sidelight of the front door, it is coming from someone/something outside of the front door (or from us and the lights in the house, but then the shadow is too large to define any figures). I make this a point to express that my dog's recent reaction was not based on any "training" or routine event.
Yesterday afternoon, an object I had been cleaning sat in my backyard in a way that it perfectly reflected the light of the sun through the backyard slider all the way to the sidelight of the front door. When I walked by, both of my dogs noticed the shadowed figure of a human on the sidelight and started barking at the person they thought might be out front. Trying to silence them, I opened the door so they could peek out and see no one was there. When they continued to see my shadow a few seconds later, "Dog A" ran back to the front door to sniff in confusion, as she just saw there was no one outside but yet had no other explanation for the shadow. This did not surprise me. However, Dog B instead ran to the back slider to bark and look for which human out back was walking around.
Now, clearly, neither of them were smart enough to immediately realize the shadow was being casted by me from inside the house (although they did eventually accept that fact after I showed them by picking one of them up to cast the shadow of a human holding a dog). However dog B knew that even though the shadow next to the front door is almost always coming from light/objects outside of it, it could instead be coming from behind her, outside of the backyard. This was against what she is used to... how could she consider the object was in the opposite direction if she didn't have such a good understanding of light and shadows?
I'm neither a journalist nor a scientist so pardon me for not having the right words to explain why this is an impressive observation. We are so quick to notice when our baby tracked an object with their eyes for the first time... We all understand the young infant's capability shown by that action. but when it comes to animals I think we often take these moments for granted without thinking of the intelligence value behind them. To me, this was as impressive as knowing a fish can pass the mirror test. And it shows that despite lack of a complex language like ours, animals are much smarter than we think.
Hello everyone,
I have created a subreddit to discuss animal language processing at r/ALP
I am currently doing research on this topic and would like to discuss with others :)
Both Non-Fiction and Fiction:
Fiction: (I would prefer more realistic books where the animal behaves more plausibly, but here is a start):
Non-Fiction: (Perhaps some of the things described in these books is open to debate, but they are not completely fictional):
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FhwD1n9yrcI
I honestly believe I have encountered cats who have looked at me with disappointment when they perceived that I did not respect their intelligence.
This video reminds me of a few others. Imagine that we once thought of animals as dumb or lacking empathy:
The story I have repeated of Whitey a cat that lived in the 1960s who supposedly could use English in a very sophisticated manner. Although there is no recording or video of this, I do not consider it impossible. The smartest of cats might be as intelligent as, say, a 7 year old human as they assert crows are. We really do not understand how intelligence works, how animals with brains only a small percentage of the size of human brains nonetheless give them intelligence roughly within human range.
As I have suggested many times before, do not be surprised if artificial intelligence allows us to finally communicate with whales who have 8 kilo brains. I would kind of be surprised if we do NOT discover they are our superiors. And it won't even be close. Not merely a different kind of intelligence but a different order of intelligence, as much above us as we are above perhaps the other primates. (Of course, we may not be as above primates as we had thought...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBhsBzN_BW4
Irrespective of the philosophical aspects, the beginning is remarkable.
https://abc7news.com/subway-rat-commuting-rodent-new-york-city/5336713/
The interesting question is whether they go into the subways seeking food or they actually use the train to get from one location to another and even return.
My understanding is that both dogs and cats have been known to use public transportation regularly enough to conclude that they really use it as transport and I have further heard it argued that rats are about as intelligent as either dogs or cats (perhaps better at some things than dogs and cats are) so it is not impossible that a rat lives in one location but goes elsewhere for food (almost like commuting for work, isn't it?).
I do not at all accept that the strange noises cats somehow make mean anything at all, or even that the cat is repeating something it heard.
On the other hand, it certainly shows that cats have the vocal apparatus to sound much more like a human than dogs are able to.
Why do cats even have this vocal apparatus?
I am convinced that both dogs and cats occasionally do employ words in the language of their owners. I am sure everyone has seen the husky plainly saying "no" repeatedly in a context that makes sense.
I have also seen the cat upset at going in the car to the vet and pretty clearly saying, resignedly, "We're going..." -- I think the cat meant what she was saying.
I read a story that is hard to believe but I do not completely discount it: Almost 60 years ago there was a cat named Whitey who spoke English, reporting to his owner that a visitor had struck him with a newspaper, etc. Eventually the cat stopped speaking, IIRC after an illness but given that cats are supposed to be as intelligent as a 3 year old human (that sounds high to me) and of course 3 year old humans can speak, it is not so surprising that some cats can speak. And maybe really exceptional cats are as intelligent as 4 or 5 year old humans and one would expect them indeed to be able to speak meaningfully just as a parrot apparently does.
My beloved cat had a botched spading when she was a kitten and has a ovarian fragment left in her body. The new vet said going back to remove it was an unnecessary risk and my cat now goes into heat for 6-7 days every few months.
My apartment is ridiculously small and my cat has explored every aspect of it (trust me). When she goes into heat; she makes yowling mating calls constantly in her desire for a male cat.
I know she is an animal and the chemicals in her brain are making her do it; but does she really think a male cat will show up? As far as she knows; this apartment is the entire universe and nothing exists beyond it. We don’t let her leave the apartment as we live in the city and would never want to lose her.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0H5olmEKnO0
I think we really have had no idea what animals are capable of and the reason we are only recently finding this out is this:
100 years ago basically animals were food, vermin or working animals. It is only relatively recently that wild animals have figured out we are -- usually -- not dangerous to them and will often help. It is not just mammals and birds. Even turtles have sought human help.
This fox not only sought human help but drew conclusions: If we helped her kit, we must be friends. It behaves just like a dog or cat. Outside chance I suppose that the mother had been a pet, but I have never met anyone who had a fox as one -- fennec foxes are even unusual and that sure was not one.
I think I read that female horses in human-organized races actually will defer to males by letting them win.
This is somewhat plausible to me -- in nature, although males will also fight with each other, perhaps they also assert dominance by showing they are the fastest.
I have met more than one person in the horse racing business. One was a horse vet and he was quite sure that horses don't have the brains to understand that they are in a race but a trainer seemed to believe that horses do in fact get the situation and will try to win even without the jockey's urging.
If not all racehorses understand, perhaps the most successful ones do. I recall that champions are supposed to be more intelligent than other horses -- one actually picked up a rake in its stable and imitated the human who cleaned out its stall and another was observed tossing a stick in the air and catching it in its mouth.
In general, whenever someone asserts that animals are mindless, I am skeptical -- as I have mentioned before, all recent studies I have read have tended to show animals are more intelligent than previously believed. And since horses have pretty much one major "skill", which is running, why shouldn't they grasp the concept of racing?
seems like they might.
we have underestimated the minds of animals, I think.
Not sure when I read this but I think before internet, the book is from 30 years ago:
One story that I think I read in the book The Parrot’s Lament (a great book about animal intelligence) is a male orca scanned its pregnant mate and then acted angry/sad and it turned out that the orca baby was later stillborn. So we see an animal understanding the concept of pregnancy and incidentally is able to perform a test/diagnostic that was only developed by humans in the past half century or so. (Sonogram.)
It may have been about same male orca in same or different book where the orca understood a human needed a platform to stand on when they were moving the female into or from the tank and so he stayed still and allowed the man to stand on him -- weighing 5 tons, holding a 200 lb human steady is not a problem.