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sleep well for the first 4 hours, but SUPER fragmented 2nd half of the night

i sleep like a log for 4 hours or so, then i wake up, then after that i basically slip in and out of dream sleep to wakefulness for a few hours and wake up feeling unrefreshed. whats going on? when i say super fragmented, i mean i wake up every 15 minutes or even less

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2024/12/03
05:57 UTC

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my insurance won't cover my sleep meds, but they'll kick me off if i try paying out of pocket

i was put on hydroxyzine pretty recently and it's been a lifesaver, i take 2 pills and they put me to sleep by 12am -- which might not sound very good, but that's opposed to my usual habit of staying up until 5am

i got through 1 bottle until my mom had to order a refill (im recently 16), and it took an insanely long time compared to my other refills; it had probably been about 2 weeks when we were told our insurance doesn't cover it because it's "unnecessary"

ive had this problem w meds in the past (acne medication) which i can somewhat understand, but hydroxyzine is VERY necessary for me; ive been off of them for a little over 2 weeks as i said, and my life is literally falling apart bcs of how horrible my sleep has been

i struggle with bipolar depression and sleep is obviously a big trigger -- being forced off of my sleep meds has genuinely put me at one of the lowest points ive ever been, mentally AND physically

if anyone's had a similar problem, what did u do ?? i need something similar but nothing seems to be insured

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2024/12/03
05:03 UTC

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What is going on?

Recently for some reason I have been getting some sort of insomnia. It all started up in summer, I would be perfectly fine but then on one night, I would get a bad night of sleep and spend the next 2 weeks worrying about if I would ever fall asleep. Everything has been fine since then, but now, the worry is coming back and it is ruining my ability to fall asleep again.

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2024/12/03
04:15 UTC

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Insomnia from B Vitamins in Food?

Does anyone else get insomnia or issues sleeping after eating food or taking supplements with b vitamins? I noticed that after eating meat, eggs, or milk at night that I would have issues sleeping later on. I ate some junk food one night and it was just carbs and fat. I felt sleepy and was able to sleep for 11 hours. I noticed carbs before bed and no meat gave me the best sleep of my life. I understand it's not the healthiest, but eating junk food helps me sleep better than eating healthy.

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2024/12/03
02:20 UTC

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Been five nights without sleep. gonna be six soon

I can't believe I actually thought tonight would go differently, but my husband, who I trusted to help me through a sleep routine tonight, is having a temper tantrum in Target.

I can't find it in me to care anymore. Whatever happens will happen, I guess. I think this is gonna be what finally kills me.

6 Comments
2024/12/03
00:02 UTC

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How insomnia started

I know this is going to sound farfetched but it happened. My severe insomnia and severe sleep apnea started out of the blue the night I took holy Communion via shared spoon which is the wine and the bread at my church about 3 years ago. Prior I was sleeping fine. Traditional treatment methods haven't worked. I am using a CPAP machine and have had adjustments. I get 0 to 4 hours of sleep even with meds. It's a frightening situation. As I don't know what in the world I was exposed to. I got blood tests MRI EEG all came back negative. Doctors just say it was a coincidence. Covid was going around at the time but I didn't catch Covid. I ve aged 20 years in 3 years. This is torture. Just wondering what other events brought about your insomnia.

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2024/12/02
23:33 UTC

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I've been taking zopiclone for 13 years and of course it no longer works.

I'd like to stop zopiclone, I've been taking 7.5mg for 13 years without a single review with my doctor.

19 Comments
2024/12/02
23:21 UTC

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Zero sleep if I have “early” plans

I struggle a lot with my mental health in general, but sleep may well be the biggest factor. On my best days, I have really poor sleep, but that I can live with. However if I have any plans at all early in the next day, especially if they benefit from me being rested, I will not sleep a single minute that night. Anyone else with this issue?

For example, today I had signed up for a padel match at 09:00. I knew that I would need some sleep to be able to play well enough, to not frustrate the other players, and for it to actually be enjoyable for me, rather than just survival. Also, I know that if I have to cancel late, I will start building a bad rep and be unable to find people to play with in the future. But I know exactly how to deal with all this. Yesterday evening I kept telling my self I just need to rest, and just a little bit of sleep will be fine - circadian rhythm will handle the rest and I can rest after. When I went to bed, I didn’t feel worried at all and my mind didn’t feel like it was racing. After lying there for a couple of hours and realizing nothing happens, I went to the living room to lie there for a while, nothing. I then felt hungry so I ate a banana and drank a glass of milk and went to bed again. Still nothing. One by one I try the best strategies I have learned over the years; breathing exercise, listening to Endel noise, listening to podcast, etc. Nothing works. It feels almost like my mind is racing in a part of it that I am not even conscious about. Because again, my thoughts are actually under control and feel relatively calm. But even though it’s winter, I go the heat off and window wide open, I kept feeling hot, even with my summer duvet. This tells me I am stressed and my body is working. So what happens? I don’t sleep a single minute. At 7 I have to get up to help my daughter get ready, and I am completely and utterly destroyed. I cancel my padel match and disappoint three other people.

I have no idea how to deal with this issue really. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I am 37M with ADHD, ASD and Generalized Anxiety. I have taken several sleep studies, and know I suffer from a disordered circidian and have a lot of arousals. I have tried all the medication and supplements in existence. Ambien and benzodiazepines work, but I cannot get any more prescriptions (have had prolonged use and my doctor is worried about long term effects like dementia). 25 mg Seroquel works, but I am not at all confident with using that long term. I have studied it pretty thoroughly and feel like Seroquel is far too risky. All other medication and all the supplements in the world does zero for me. My sleep hygiene is 100% optimized. I sleep alone in a pitch black cold room in a nice bed. I try to get into and out of bed at the same time and see sunset/sunrise. Also, I am active and eat fairly healthy.

I feel like I know all there is to know about sleep, anxiety etc, and I feel like I have tried everything over the years to improve it. So I must admit my current strategy is simply to accept that I am a terrible sleeper, and that I actually just have to refuse any plans early in the day.

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2024/12/02
23:04 UTC

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Wanting to shorten vacation

I am traveling to Mexico, I am 15 weeks pregnant. My husband and I will be staying with his aunt and uncle. I have struggled with insomnia off and on. We will be gone for about 6 days. I am feeling quite a bit of anxiety. I’m worried about my insomnia rearing its ugly head while on vacation. I start to catastrophize about not sleeping. Debating on cutting my trip short but also don’t want to feed the anxiety. Being pregnant has increased my anxiety more than ever before. Any tips?

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2024/12/02
21:58 UTC

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OTC medications or vitamins

Has anyone had luck with anything in particular. I tried Zzzquil last night but only got like 4 hours in last night I think. Feel like I'm going nuts. Went for a run and exercised some earlier. Willing to try anything.

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2024/12/02
21:13 UTC

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The Sensation of Falling Asleep Keeping Me Up?

Has anyone experienced this?

I’ve been struggling with insomnia on and off my whole life, but it became significantly worse the last month or so. On average, I would not fall asleep for 3-4 nights a week. Not sure what triggered this issue as my lifestyle has remained pretty consistent. The problem is that I do feel tired and want to sleep but every time I feel myself falling asleep, I become hyper aware of the sensation and feel myself jolt awake? This process would repeat several times throughout the night until I have to get up in the morning. Is this a stress response? Or is there a term for this phenomena? Anyone has any tips to overcome this? Magnesium and melatonin don’t help as I still feel myself waking myself up when I’m on the verge of falling asleep on those sleep aids…

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2024/12/02
20:55 UTC

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Blood Pressure Medication

Has anyone taken blood pressure medication and does it help you sleep? I think I saw someone post something about that but can’t remember. I have both BP and insomnia. Thanks in advance.

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2024/12/02
20:44 UTC

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Seroquel 100mg

Would seroquel be somewhat safe for daily use for insomnia , was taking 25mg for 2 months but it slowly started to fade. Psychiatrist upped my dose today to 100mg.

Very short amount of time for such a big dose.

Also , do lower doses of seroquel work better than 50,75,100,200,300(for insomnia) I’ve heard people say after the 300mg mark it loses that sedative effect.

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2024/12/02
20:10 UTC

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Confusing sleep

I used to struggle with SEVERE insomnia in high school, it got way better in college and now as an adult I feel as though I have more trouble sleeping than most people but can’t complain seeing my insomnia used to ruin my life. Here’s the catch: some nights I feel as though I’ve been tossing and turning, getting up to the bathroom, eyes open, ALL night - yet I get confused if I slept or not. I have a feeling this has to do with a heightened sense of anxiety regarding sleep. Sometimes it’s like I’m having conversations or pictures in my head but it’s just that, my head is busy. But then I don’t always feel like I got 0 hours of sleep in the AM so I have to think “did I sleep a little?”. In the past I’ve even convinced myself I never sleep and just laid there all night then remember my dream later on which is SO CONFUSING. It genuinely feels like all I do is toss and turn yet it’s almost like I can’t distinguish reality and sleep perhaps? I feel awake all night even if other people say they think I slept. Does anyone else experience this with insomnia? I wonder if I’m getting more sleep than I think.

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2024/12/02
19:45 UTC

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Wtf is going on?!?!

Lately I’ve been sleeping earlier than usual, but for some odd reason I keep “waking up” during the middle of the night. It feels like I fully conscious like I can feel my bed, sheets, blanket, the air conditioning, and I talk ti myself in my head. So I KNOW I’m awake, but my body is limp and my eyes are shut. I keep thinking to open my eyes or move though I know that once I open my eyes, I’m going to be wide awake. This happens at least once every night and I feels like I got a good nights rest, but mid day it just hits me and I be feeling terrible. I don’t know if it’s insomnia or something. It might be sleep paralysis but idk

Oh and the dreams are so real, like everything I touch and see looks and feels like that ai Minecraft shit. Some days it’s so real that I don’t even know if it’s a memory I had hidden away in my mind or just a dream

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2024/12/02
19:43 UTC

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Exercise

So i find exercise really hard due to being really tired. Insomnia makes everything more painful. Exercise seems to be the only proactive thing i can do. How to end the loop?

3 Comments
2024/12/02
19:30 UTC

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Need to know it can get better

I have 2 boys - ages 2 and 3 months. I lost my ability to feel sleepy after a really stressful event back in the summer. My current medication is working less And less by the day. I can sleep 0 Hours without meds. Before the event I was The best sleeper. I’m feeling really low today and feel like I’m not going to see my boys go to prom, graduate, etc.

Someone tell me it can get better….

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2024/12/02
19:25 UTC

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Advice about suvorexant/Belsomra and my goals/needs

I just have trouble falling asleep. So I don’t specifically need anything that keeps me asleep. Melatonin works great but it gives me horrible brain fog.

I took my first dose of Belsomra last night, just 5mg, worked well except I woke up feeling kinda high (like I took a benzo) and it still hadn’t worn off (been 14 hrs since I took it).

I really want something that doesn’t give me any brain fog, this response to Belsomra is still better than Melatonin, atleast.

I figure the “high” feeling would tone down the longer I take Belsomra, but I was hoping to use it only as needed. Like for a few days or a week just to help regulate my sleep schedule. Or nights I get stuck ruminating/spiraling due to anxiety/ptsd, which keeps me awake. But the primary cause of my insomnia isn’t a psychological issue & I’m in therapy.

I’m super sensitive to GABAergic drugs, and maybe antihistamines. Can’t even tolerate 5mg hydroxyzine. I used to not be like this. I think it may be because I take pregabalin/Lyrica.

Can anyone recommend any other drug or have any advice?

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2024/12/02
18:42 UTC

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Night Shift and Insomnia

Hey guys . Had some trouble sleeping the last months , had my ups and downs . But the last weeks of night shifts are a complete hell for me . I work 3 rotating shifts .

Last night shift , I came home at 6 morning after work , couldn’t sleep until I took a pill , knocked me out 2 hours . The second day I took again a pill because I couldn’t sleep , knocked me out again for 2 hours . Had to call in sick for the rest of the week .

Since then I’ve been avoiding Nightshift , somehow I get 5-6-7 hours a night of sleep no issues. But today I have again to face my fear , night shift …

I’m awake since 5 in the morning , chased all day a nap so I could sleep , no success . Constantly overthinking about needing to sleep , that I’m going to be awake for 25 hours when I get back from work , what will happen if I can’t sleep again after work like last time . Also anxious about starting all over to screw my sleep schedule . And now I don’t know if I’m supposed to call in sick at work or just accept it ….

If anyone got some tricks to stop overthinking and worrying it would be great .. or tips for stopping anxiety ..

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2024/12/02
18:28 UTC

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Has Ambien helped anyone with both falling asleep *and* staying asleep? I have severe insomnia

I unable to fall asleep at all without medicine. I can stay up 30 hours without sleeping at all or even feeling sleepy. The only thing that has helped is Dayvigo which makes me fall asleep for 10 hours~ but I wake up every damn hour. I combined it with Mirtazapine and it reduced the amount of sleep interuptions to just 1 or none at all. Now both medicines have stopped working and I don't know what to do. I tried generic Lunesta up to 5mg and it did nothing at all.

Is Ambien worth it?

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2024/12/02
18:03 UTC

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Does insomnia also make you emotional af?

Only the bad emotions of course. I just feel angry or sad or anxious or all of them. And it affects my OCD really bad

It's like it's worsening every single aspect lf my life. There's not one thing it doesn't make worse. Not even a small insignificant thing

25 Comments
2024/12/02
17:58 UTC

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For anyone taking Lunesta: A warning

It works incredibly well to knock you out but I started getting severe next day depression when my doctor upped my dose to 3mg. I've gone back to 1mg which works just as well without the next day brain fog. Hoping to get off it eventually entirely but I take adhd meds and we all know how brutal insomnia can be. Just thought I would share my experience.

The depression was really random and out of the blue. I am going through a lot of stressful things but my default mode is usually to handle things pretty well. I finally put two and two together and after lowering my dose at night I feel a lot better. If this is inappropriate for this sub feel free to delete.

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2024/12/02
16:52 UTC

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Should I take Lunesta (Eszopiclone) for 7 hour plane ride?

I have an 7 hour flight, and I can never sleep in planes. Went to the pharmacy and they gave me one 3mg pill of eszopiclone. Note: this is outside the US, so no prescription was needed.

I have never taken it, not sure how safe it is. Not sure if anyone has any input. Pharmacist was not of much help.

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2024/12/02
16:24 UTC

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First Bad Night in a While (mild insomnia)

I’ve been recovering from a mild case of insomnia. I actually got 2 & hour nights back to back. Only 4-5 hours last night, even tho I feel like I did everything that normally works for me. I even took 2 tabs of Tylenol PM which I had to quit.

I will say, I am grateful that 4-5 is a bad night for me. I hadn’t had a night like that in a while. I only really meet the criteria for insomnia by having very long sleep latency. Not gonna let last night discourage me. Especially since my morning coffee has me a bit wired now haha.

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2024/12/02
15:47 UTC

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Mirtazapine and trazadone sleep set back

Is it normal to have days where your meds stop working? I’ve been taking lunesta for about a year now along with mirtazapine. Many nights I don’t need the lunesta but I was trying to taper off the mirtazapine (due to weight gain) and taper onto trazadone. I was able to slowly go from 22.5mg of mirtazapine to 15mg and then slowly increase trazadone to 25 mg. This worked like a charm during Thanksgiving break. I was able to sleep in but didn’t need to because I slept wonderfully on this dose. Had no lunesta in 3 weeks. I thought everything was going great until last night I couldn’t sleep again. I took the usual mirtazapine and trazadone with magnesium and melatonin and nothing works so I added vitril which did nothing, so I added another 25mg of trazadone which did nothing so I took Ambien and that didn’t work so I finally had to take a khloopon. I try to avoid that at all costs but I knew I had to sleep and get up at some point today. Are a set backs normal and temporary? I don’t think it’s a tolerance issue because I can still feel the effects and feel super sleepy but then when I close my eyes I’m not sleepy anymore. Go figure. When this happens I semi panic the next day trying to figure out if I need to change my meds up. Or is it normal for this to happen temporarily. The other thing I’ve noticed is there seems to be a correlation between pain and sleep. I have very minor hip pain. Seems to be tied to working out. It’s like a 5/10. Sometimes it’s chin spit pain or knack pain was the probably last night but I wouldn’t think it would be enough to keep me from sleeping 🤔 it’s just more of an annoying pain. Anyways, any suggestion? Should I just stop worrying and take the same dose? Please help

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2024/12/02
15:09 UTC

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Amitryptline experiences?

Has anybody tried amitriptyine for their insomnia? I’ve been taking 30 mg for about a week now and I’m only getting about 3-4 hours of sleep a night and still waking up in the middle of the night. Does it take longer to work or is it probably not gonna work at all? Thanks for reading

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2024/12/02
14:39 UTC

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Revisiting my sleep problems after many years. Has it been my home this entire time?

40 year old man here. Almost 9 years ago in February 2016 I moved into a new apartment. I clearly remember having some trouble sleeping in the first couple of months, though nothing stood out as truly problematic. I had lived in 2 houses previously my entire life, in what I would describe as much more cozier, quieter, bed always in the corner type of bedrooms. This was my first apartment ever, surrounded by other people, in a busier neighborhood with a lot more congestion outside. The window in my bedroom faces a huge parking lot for the development that people constantly walk through. Simply put, there's just a lot more going on here. I also have a router in my room now which I never had before, but years ago I had tried moving it to other rooms in my apartment to see if that somehow was responsible for my sleep troubles. They continued so I moved it back. With regards to any possible outside noise, I must say at nighttime things are mostly peaceful aside from the occasional plane flying over which I feel is blocked out by my fan being on.

But here is the thing- in September of 2016 I had a triggering stressful event at work that started this wave of on and off sleep issues/insomnia that never fully went away. It was an absolute nightmare for a good long while, but I improved and over time, through things like CBTi and sleep restriction etc, I got a LOT better. That being said, while I have gone through many good phases of sleep, if I'm being compeltely honest, I feel like I have never truly slept super well since that time. Even during the phases of better sleep, I rarely have woken up feeling extremely refreshed. I don't think I have sleep apnea as #1- nobody has ever told me I'm a bad snorer, #2- I slept perfectly fine in my old bedrooms and #3, the only thing I could ever say I have symptom wise is occasionaly cotton/dry mouth when waking up. Never caught myself choking in my sleep in all these years.

So at this point, all these years later, and currently in a rough patch of sleeping yet again, I am starting to revisit my sleep issues lately with the wonder of has it always had something to do with this place I've lived in. Now I'm not naive. I know that the problem is most likely what it always is for bad sleepers/insomniacs.... Anxiety. And yes, I am a rather anxious person and have suffered from some anxiety for most of my adult life, but I can tell you with a clear conscience that how I view sleep now compared to the first few years of my struggles is night and day. I am not longer afraid of sleep like I used to be at all, yet I still seem to sleep poorly quite often.

My sleep issues are pretty much as follows... I usually go to bed around 10:30pm on average, falling asleep usually after an hour at most. The days of my passing out after 10-15 minutes are long gone but I remember them well. Now, I suppose you can call this lingering anxiety over all these years of sleep issues, but I really do just lay in bed quietly and comfortably waiting for sleep to come. Never forcing the issue. The problems come with early awakenings (the most common) where I'll wake at 4 or 5am when I typically don't need to wake up until 7am. I try to stay calm, try to accept the awakening, but rarely do I ever fall back asleep.

Anyway, to conclude, I guess I'm really just starting to get a little frustrated after all these years now of poor sleep, when in my mind my sleep anxiety is and has been completely gone. Again I do suffer from some anxiety in general, and if I have a rough day its likely to impact my sleep, but many, many nights are just normal nights where problems with sleep arise anyway. Anyone who can chime in with their two cents would be much appreicated...

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2024/12/02
13:50 UTC

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Stay safe during these sleepless times, you might end up having a little psychedelic trip 🥲

To start, I have been diagnosed to be bi-polar and have been off my medication due to not having health insurance (I am working on a solution for this). This is likely just a manic phase. I have not slept since Thursday, it is now early Monday morning. I tried cycling through different sleeping medications I have been prescribed or purchased over the counter, and none of them helped.

So quite desperately and stupidly of me (yes I know this was really bad and irresponsible), I decided to try combining 50mg Benadryl (antihistamine), 100mg trazodone (SARI), and 30ml liquid Promethazine (also antihistamine).

I ended up lightly tripping for about 3-4 hours? Nothing too crazy. Just patterned visuals on the floor, counter, or eyelids when closed. As well as feeling a bit weird, like my body was really heavy when walking and my mind was definitely running slow and ALL over the place.

I have had a lot of experience with psychedelics in the past, but I imagine this would have been scary if happened to someone who had never experienced psychedelics before.

My guess is the use of the two antihistamines combined with my lack of sleep caused this. I did not go over the recommended dosage for each medication, but did not realize Promethazine was also an antihistamine. That was my bad for not looking that one up. If anyone knows more about combing the three, I would really appreciate learning more!

Basically what I’m trying to say is, don’t do stupid things like I did even though you are exhausted and barely functioning. We will get through it. We will get our rest someday and wake up feeling refreshed for once. Just gotta hold out till it happens.

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2024/12/02
13:29 UTC

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I can't take this anymore

Hello, for the past few years I've been suffering from extreme insomnia. For context, I have ADHD and Asperger's so sleep has always been a big problem for me, I also have a lot of anxiety and depression.

Over past few years, it's became borderline impossible to fall asleep and it only really happens when I pass out from being so exhausted that my body just gives up. My bedroom floorboards are an absolute wreck. They slant in one overall direction, and the height varies slightly over various "patches" in my room. This has made any bed or mattress combo I've tried (Like 5 different beds and mattress in the past 3 years) pretty much excruciating to sleep in. The pressure on my lower back and my neck is unbearable.

We had the council "fix" the floorboards by putting these extremely thin and flimsy wooden panels over them to no avail (it's actually made some parts worse because of the lousy effort put in). I've had my room done up recently after that and don't want to tear everything out etc because I don't have the money to get a new carpet again, nor do I have the labour to help move everything around.

I've tried "levelling" out my bed by putting pieces of carpet, cardboard or adhesive furniture pads underneath the wheels/sliders. Every night I sleep in pretty much every position possible. I try lots of pillows each night and it eventually gets to the point where I just scream because I just want to sleep but can't.

I'm poor and can't move out, and even if I could most houses in my city will be very low quality like mines.

I just don't know what to do. I can't live like this. There is zero comfort in my life and I haven't had a good sleep in years. I can't take it anymore. I just want to be able to lie down and relax but I can't no matter how many new beds or mattress I get because the house I'm in simply has sub-par flooring.

Does anyone have a potential answer for me?

2 Comments
2024/12/02
11:45 UTC

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Insomnia getting worse over the past month

24M. Since 1 month ago my insomnia seems just getting worse. At first it started only being able to sleep 3-5h, then rapidly over this month went to not being able to sleep at all some days, and somedays just getting very light sleep that I feel like I'm just closing my eyes but not sleeping at all. I tried melatonin, magnesium, diazepam, herbal extracts (valerian, chamomile, and lavender) and quetiapine. Sometimes a mix of all combined, but with no results. I reached a point that I don't feel exhausted or tired anymore, I'm not able to feel any emotion like joy or sadness and my creativity and imagination went down the drain, it's just all blank. My memory is just getting worse too sometimes to a point I forget things I did just a couple hours ago. I don't know what to do anymore.

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2024/12/02
11:17 UTC

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