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A place to discuss the lore of the Fallout universe.

A place to discuss the lore of the fallout universe. No memes or other silly things here, just lore and the discussion of the game worlds.


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  1. Threads and comments that are irrelevant to lore will be removed.

  2. Remain Civil. Personal attacks will lead to a ban. Posts or comments complaining about Fallout/developers may lead to a ban. Devs are NOT part of the discussion.

  3. Refrain from asking about the fate or state of any place that isn't explicitly mentioned in-game. If neither wiki has an entry on it, nothing is known about the area in canon as of yet.

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/r/fallout

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/r/falloutmods

/r/imaginaryfallout

/r/wasteland



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/r/teslore

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26

Who are the five unique marked men?

In fallout new Vegas lonesome road dlc throughout the story as you progress you will encounter five names marked men but who were they before the divide? Drop your guesses below in the comments

5 Comments
2024/12/18
11:34 UTC

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During Fallout: New Vegas, would the followers still have a presence in the NCR, like would all the universities or such in Boneyard still be theres?

6 Comments
2024/12/17
05:15 UTC

43

The Great War—Atomic Weapons or Thermonuclear Weapons?

As the title suggests, during the Great War, what kind of nuclear weapons were used to destroy the world?

I saw on the wiki that thermonuclear weapons (hydrogen/fusion weapons) had been largely phased out in favor of smaller yield nuclear weapons that produced more radiation in the subsequent fallout. Would that imply atomic weapons (fission weapons) since those result in more radiation, at least from my understanding?

But then like, what about the ICBMs we’ve seen throughout the games? Those generally carry thermonuclear payloads in real life. Or can they also carry atomic payloads?

I guess atomic weapons seem to make more sense since many structures out in the wasteland are still standing (even near ground zero locations like the Glowing Sea), and there’s tons of radiation left over, whereas hydrogen weapons would have completely flattened everything and tend to leave less radiation.

Or maybe both types of nuclear weapons were used?

Is there any concrete info on this?

Separately, do you think atomic weapons by the time of the Great War would have advanced enough that their strongest yields would have been at least as powerful as the weakest Cold War era thermonuclear weapons? I ask because it just doesn‘t sit right with me that—I don’t think it’s as shocking/I don’t feel that it invokes as much feelings of existential crisis from complete annihilation, if the world got destroyed by something significantly weaker, like the powers at be didn’t really go all out.

But I guess if it was thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of atomic bombs used, I guess that would make up the difference in destructive potential in place of however many less H-bombs it’d take to wipe out humanity. And then again, if everything was complete rubble then there’d be no Fallout games, so maybe it’s better that atom bombs were used.

24 Comments
2024/12/16
01:36 UTC

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During the war, were people able to see bomb strikes from other states?

I think the big bomb we have in the beginning would have just barely been visible from New York city. Yet only a small handful hit the Commonwealth. What could Boston survivors see on the horizon? There's Rhode Island to the south, Vermont and New Hampshire to the north. Plus the rest of Massachussets directly west.

12 Comments
2024/12/15
01:45 UTC

0

Bit of a rant about Diamond City

So Diamond City has a population of about 50 people. Google says 700-900 but beneath the stands are clearly securely boarded-up and inaccesible so where they're squeezing the other 650-850 people I have no idea. The stands mostly don't have houses built on them, the stadium's seating space is largely left empty. The suites in the upper stands have a handful of wealthy folks but the majority of the population have settled on the pitch of the stadium. So why is it called a "city"? I understand settlements need to be scaled down for video game reasons but Bethesda can clearly design actual scaled down cities - Watoga is a city, even the downtown area of Boston that Fenway Park is in is a city, Diamond City is barely even a village inside of one building.

Furthermore, it's colloquially known as "the great green jewel" because the building is observantly very green so... why not Emerald City? I get it, it shines at night because it has power and that's a pretty big deal but if people 200+ years post-apocalypse still understand the concept of jewels, the colour green and they're renaming places why are they naming it Diamond anything? The building itself is kind of shaped like a cut diamond (although honestly more of a regular square with three shaved corners) as is a baseball field from a top-down aerial view but the shape of the field is almost entirely obscured by the settlement, all cut jewels are shaped like that, the place is entirely green and also the residents don't even know what baseball was - Moe Cronin, the expert, thinks it was a gladiatorial arena, the fact the building even functioned as a baseball stadium seems entirely lost after so many generations in the wasteland - so again, why not emerald if the concept of baseball is lost but the shape of cut gemstones isn't?

It's been bugging me for years that both parts of the name seem to incorrectly describe the place. "Emerald Village", "The Emerald", "Shiny Shiny Green Building" or even just "Fenway Park Stadium" would all be more accurate. If anything, after 200 years of people saying they lived in a settlement inside of Fenway Park, I imagine it'd slowly naturally just drop to "Fenway" for ease for vernacular - why they'd suddenly pull "Diamond City" out of the ether is beyond me.

"Ruby Metropolis" would also be just as incorrectly descriptive as Diamond City.

Not even going to go into how diamonds don't emit light, they reflect it...

29 Comments
2024/12/14
14:37 UTC

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Drug trade between Vault City and New Reno

Why was the Den part of the trade route between Vault City and New Reno.
They could have saved a lot of time if the chemicals went straight to New Reno instead of taking the detour and going nortwest and then down again to New Reno.

3 Comments
2024/12/10
15:50 UTC

0

Why in the series does the enclave appear to be studying a super mutant when they are the ones who created the super mutants?

In the series we see a super mutant's body being taken by scientists from the enclave, but they were the ones who started the FEV tests, on the oil platform they were modifying the FEV, in Washington they were studying the super mutants for years, so why study them more?

36 Comments
2024/12/10
15:08 UTC

59

Did McDonough know who the Sole Survivor was when she said she was looking for Shaun? Did he know who that specific Shaun was in relation to him?

Title. Did McDonough know she was looking for Father? Was that part of Father's plan?

5 Comments
2024/12/10
08:58 UTC

201

How many caps would make you wealthy in the Fallout universe?

It costs 2k caps for a large, double home in diamond city. Probably twice that for a house in the stands. The same cost it takes to just enter the strip in New vegas. I wonder how many caps Anne Codman has stashed somewhere to afford her easy life in diamond city.

22 Comments
2024/12/10
06:28 UTC

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Do we have a current timeline of expansions for 76?

(Am using what I know personally. So I know some things may be wrong feel free to correct me if so)

I know at least a year has passed and new people come to WV for Wastelanders unsure about the rest.

But here is what am thinking:

Main story

  • Daily Ops?

Wastelanders

  • Nuka World on tour
  • Gleaming Depths?
  • Expeditions

Steel Dawn

  • Steel reign

Skyline valley

13 Comments
2024/12/10
05:54 UTC

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Anyone know why the Wiki uses so many non-canon sources?

Bit of an odd question, I doubt the wiki is affiliated with this subreddit but I figure some contributors over there are lurkers or posters around here.

Just wondering if anyone knows why the Fallout wiki so prominently references non-canon sources in their articles?

I've been doing a replay of Fallout 4 lately and have been referencing the wiki at times to jog my memory on places and things, but I'm finding so often I'll read a paragraph or 2, only to find that those paragraphs are citing something from one of the Bibles or something Avellone or Tim Cain said years ago. We know they both have lots of insight, but even they acknowledge the Bible is contradictory at times, and they haven't been the Fallout Gospel for decades.

I find myself needing to sift articles for their references first to see if it's an article entirely made up of Bible quotes that we don't even know to be valid, before I even bother reading the article itself.

Bit of a null question of the communities don't overlap, but hoping someone may share some insight.

55 Comments
2024/12/09
17:28 UTC

45

What is the connection between the scorched plague and Ultracite?

I know that scorched humans grow little ultracite crystals on their body, but my question is, why? The plague itself seems to have been developed by the enclave either on purpose or accidentally during their experimentation on bats. What connection does this have to ultracite? The new raid seems to suggest ultracite can induce unusual behavior after prolonged exposure, but I’m having difficulty putting it all together.

3 Comments
2024/12/09
16:25 UTC

356

Does the skin of Ghoul constantly weep into the clothing they wear?

In past Fallout Games ghouls had open and often time missing skin with exposed flesh, are these exposed areas like a freshly bandaged wound, leaking blood and often fluids into the fabric covering them or because of Ghoulification this is either not an issue or something that does not happen.

52 Comments
2024/12/09
04:47 UTC

60

So does Nuka World On Tour canonically get nuked?

Same question for monongah mine. Are these locations canonically ground zero? The overseers log says shes so disappointed that the 76ers would nuke places when it isnt necessary, so we know at least 2 nukes have gone off. Any ideas?

24 Comments
2024/12/09
03:36 UTC

41

What exactly becomes Independent? Only New Vegas regions or the whole Mojave Wasteland?

If i beat Fallout New Vegas with Mr.House, i know that only an Economic Zone is estabilished, but i don't think it mentions Anything about it being a nation, but If i beat with Yes Man, it is mentioned about becoming a nation, my question however is: What exactly becomes Independent and a Nation? Just New Vegas and its surrounding regions (like we ser in OWB HOI4 mod), or New Vegas + the whole Mojave from in-game?

10 Comments
2024/12/08
17:30 UTC

2

How and when did the people get into vault/why are the vaults full?

How did all vault dwellers get into the vaults before the bombs were dropped? Did all live near to their vault so they could reach their vault instantly? Or did Vault Tec "overbook" the vaults assuming that not everyone would come

13 Comments
2024/12/08
16:20 UTC

6

Is it possible to weaken the fev virus?

If you find yourself unlucky enough to have fev inside your body are there ways to weaken something that interacts and changes the DNA of its host?

I'm not asking if it can be cured I'm asking can the virus be slowed or have some of it's effects neutered?

20 Comments
2024/12/08
07:21 UTC

117

Why doesn't BoS turn the airport into a permanent base?

Well, the Boston airport is huge and could be expanded by adding tents and renovating it, but instead she decides to spend resources to kill 4 Synths during the Battle of Bunker Hill, and it is said that they spend a lot of resources to keep Predwin in the air, so why not turn the airport into a base and land Predwin there?

40 Comments
2024/12/08
01:37 UTC

77

Would House live forever, if nobody interfered with his living conditions?

Marking as a spoiler for obvious reasons.

In New Vegas, Mr. House is over 250 years old, and while incredibly decrepit, his mind is still fully intact and functional. He seems to take pride in still being flesh and blood, but surely this isn't sustainable, right? Could he really live in his pod for 500, 700, a thousand years?

Even if the technology doesn't eventually break randomly in a way he can't fix, is the technology available to him really so advanced that his body could be sustained forever? I doubt he wanted to become a ruinous husk of a man, so would that decay just continue on and 250 years from New Vegas, his pod would contain, what? An unmoving, withered skeleton covered in paper-thin skin? He kinda looks like that already.

46 Comments
2024/12/07
20:18 UTC

15

Three questions about the Institute and it's Super Mutant projects and it's location

So, I have a few questions! Here they go:

  1. How could they have kept the Super Mutant experiments secret if they had to send the Mutants to the surface via the Teleporter?

  2. Why did Father continue the Super Mutant/FEV experimentation if the Generation 3 synths were already completed? Did they plan for a Generation 4 or something?

  3. How could people not have known the location of the Institute? The CIT was literally right above it. And the knew it was an Institute. I understand not knowing how it operated, how they got in/out, but physically, it was right across Diamond City!

6 Comments
2024/12/07
07:49 UTC

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So why did Madison Li betray the Lyons Brotherhood for making her work on weapons in order to work for the Institute who were completely evil on par with the Enclave?

I don't get it. She basically makes it seem like working for the Lyons Brotherhood was horrible bc she was working on weapons. Meanwhile she helped design weapons for the Institute, helped with the abomination Synth Shaun (I support 3rd Gen synths but not synth kids), helped take power from Diamond City, knew about the role of FEV in the creation of Generation 3 (which means she had to have known about the experiments and the Super Mutants), and so much more. Also she knew how bad they were from the events in Fallout 3.

Why does she act so self-righteous about working with the BOS again? Also I headcanon that she dies during the battle in the Institute or falls at Boston Airport.

32 Comments
2024/12/06
19:51 UTC

41

How does Proctor Ingram sleep?

During a break the other day, I started wondering how does one sleep in PA, and then a question popped up in my mind: how does Ingram sleep?

Cannonically, she suffered heavy injuries during combat, and needed to have her PA adapted so she could move around and all of that. So how does she sleep? Does someone help her out of the armor? Does she just bend the knees of the armor back to lie down? Does she do it by herself?

Is she connected to the Fusion Core and doesn't sleep?

20 Comments
2024/12/06
17:44 UTC

13

Was the united nations or European union or just some sort of peacekeeper organization around before the war?

If so, do we know if they tried to stop the war at all?

10 Comments
2024/12/06
01:59 UTC

237

Why was the radiation so bad at Vault 87 that it could kill you instantly when the radiation at both the Cambridge Crater and the Glowing Sea could not? And why was the Glowing Sea not even that radioactive despite everyone in-game claiming it was?

So, I'm replaying Fallout 4 and I don't understand how the radiation at both Cambridge Crater and the Glowing Sea wasn't nearly as bad as the radiation at Vault 87 despite all three being hit by nukes AND the reactor in the Glowing Sea breaking down. What happened?

Additionally, everything in-game and even out of it depicts it as this hostile, super-irradiated location that kills everything by radiation alone. But the radiation isn't that bad, maybe less than at the Cambridge Crater (though I might be wrong about that one). Why? Is it a game thing? I don't get it.

31 Comments
2024/12/05
21:53 UTC

33

Has there been any explicit mention of when Vault 75 opened?

I might be running a Fallout TTRPG game soon, and after a few discussions with the potential players I'm actually thinking of having them be escapees from Vault 75, with the early sessions having them actually play through the rebellion. I was just wondering if there was a set date for their escape anywhere that I missed, because I admit I'm worried about the players metagaming their Fallout 4 knowledge, and I've got an idea for a date that should fix things, but I thought I'd run it past you all first.

6 Comments
2024/12/05
11:16 UTC

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Knowledge of Vault Tec post war

I'm hoping to separate meta from in universe knowledge of Vault Tec practices. The player base all know they were conducting experiments on the vault residents. But how many Wastelanders, or even Vault dwellers know this?

Because it really feels like, even in modern games, "Vault Tec" bad is common knowledge in universe, because its common knowledge in the meta.

Taking Vault 111 as an in universe example, the failure of the vault is the Institutes fault. Not Vault Tec, despite the deception of its purpose sold to the SS, and it's Overseers orders.

Tdlr: What's Vault Tecs reputation post war amongst Wastelanders and Vault dwellers in universe.

4 Comments
2024/12/04
22:46 UTC

25

What exactly happened to the NCR? Spoilers welcome

I recently started the TV series (I avoid starting something that does not have all the episodes released) and I got to the point were they say shady sands fell.

I am trying to understand if it is the case for me to continue to series or drop it out of conflicting lore.

Does the show retcon the NCR? New Vegas is set in 2281, how can shady sands fall in 2277 and still so important 4 years later?

Where does the legion fit in the equation?

Was the NCR somewhat downgraded to commonwealth minutemen militia levels?

Iirc they were a proper nation with offices, factories, proper military corps including aviation and artillery, their own power armors etc. they produced their own standardised equipment, uniforms etc. although corrupt and over stretched why did they not rebuild Shady Sands in the same way Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt?

I just trying to match modern Bethesda lore with Obsidian lore and trying to avoid conflicts but it seems that Bethesda kind of insists in showing the apocalypse as if the world ended 2 weeks ago rather than 200 years. We somehow are still lacking nations being reborn and corpses are still around from the bombs

100 Comments
2024/12/04
10:52 UTC

97

In the TV show why didn't Moldaver and the NCR troops at the Griffith Observatory try and fortify against a possible attack?

In the Fallout TV show we see in the final episode of the first season when Lucy delivers The Artifact to Moldaver everyone at the observatory just keeps going about their lives like its business as usual until the Brotherhood of Steel attacks and defeats the forces defending the observatory and taking control of The Artifact for themselves. Surely Moldaver must have known that the Britherhood of Steel was actively searching for The Artifact. So why didnt she try to fortify or prepare for an attack?

29 Comments
2024/12/03
17:25 UTC

42

Where would Westside and North Vegas Square be located in real life?

Westside I think might be West Las Vegas in real life? But I'm not sure if North Vegas Square is part of Las Vegas proper in real life or North Las Vegas which I just learned is its own city in the metropolitan?

11 Comments
2024/12/02
15:19 UTC

16

What is the ranking system of the gunners?

In our world, in most militaries go Private->Private First Class->Corporal->Etc.

How does it go for the Gunner faction present in FO4?

5 Comments
2024/12/02
00:53 UTC

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