/r/falloutlore

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A place to discuss the lore of the Fallout universe.

A place to discuss the lore of the fallout universe. No memes or other silly things here, just lore and the discussion of the game worlds.


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  1. Threads and comments that are irrelevant to lore will be removed.

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  3. Refrain from asking about the fate or state of any place that isn't explicitly mentioned in-game. If neither wiki has an entry on it, nothing is known about the area in canon as of yet.

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/r/falloutmods

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/r/wasteland



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/r/teslore

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Why are Towns and settlements in fallout 1, 2 and maybe 3 are bigger than in fallout 4?

Shady sands, a little town in fo1 is almost the size of Goodneighboor, which is 100 years older, In fallout 2 shady sands even houses 3000 people from what i've heard, and that is considerably higher than Diamond City, The Hub is like double the size of Diamond City and they dont have to border all of their town and actually is a safe place, in Fallout 4 yeah, there may be more raiders, but they aren't so much of a problem considering in Fallout 3 they've made an automatic bridge and a whole town on a ship, which is almost the size of Diamond City. Same for Megaton.

95 Comments
2024/11/07
17:17 UTC

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There is a full version of the brotherhood codex ?

3 Comments
2024/11/06
11:04 UTC

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(Reuploaded for clarity) Specialized units within the N.C.R

We obviously know the NCR has specialized units like: the Rangers, first recon, ranger assassins, M.Ps, salvaged power armor, some proper power armor cavalry units, vehicle fleet operators, scouts and vertibird pilots, but what other kinds of specialized units might exist within the NCR's military? For an example of what I am speculating on I'll give you some examples of what I think might exist. 

  • A radiological/chemical corps, most likely modelled on the U.S army chemical corps. This unit would be tasked with containing radiological threats that are likely to pop up time to time within the wasteland. This unit would most likely be made up of army engineers promoted to the unit many of whom would likely be ghouls, a few super mutants and would have access to hazmat suits, robots and the ability to call upon vertibirds and trucks for complex tasks.
  • An anti-feral ghoul division most likely made up of ghouls whose job is to clear out large populations of ferals.
  • Some sort of special forces who employ jet pack equipped power armor.
  • Knowing the mountainous terrain of California I am sure they also have some sort of a mountain division like the U.S army's 10th mountain division.
  • A small cyber team who's responsible for hacking terminals in prewar ruins. Let me know what you guys think.
25 Comments
2024/11/06
03:09 UTC

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Can power armor survive getting hit by a car?

Lets just say a car going around 70km h (or 43 mph) is going torwards a T-51b. What kind of injuries will the armor suffer? Will the user survive the crash?

55 Comments
2024/11/05
20:54 UTC

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Metal (or Black Metal) in Fallout

Musically, Fallout seems to be pretty stuck with a small set of musical genres. So, I'm curious if any of y'all know if metal music - black metal in particular - was ever invented by the time the bombs drop. As a metalhead, this is a very important question for me. Thanks! 🤘🏻

30 Comments
2024/11/04
19:05 UTC

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Lore Question/Discussion About Ug-Qualtoth

Dear Fallout Community, I need someone to explain Ug-Qualtoth to me. Does his existence mean magic exists in the Fallout universe, or is it more on the lines of supernatural stuff? What even is Ug-Qualtoth and how does it connect to the grander picture of fallout's universe?

14 Comments
2024/11/04
03:59 UTC

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Characters from Utah?

Been trying to find all the mentions of Utah/characters who have been to or are from Utah for my tabletop RPG, and am wondering if I’m missing anything. So far this is what I have:

  • Joshua Graham, Daniel, Whitelegs, Dead Horses, Sorrows, and Randall Clark (obviously)

  • Bishop Mordecai, as mentioned by Daniel

-The Courier and Happy Trails Caravan

  • the 80s

  • Driver Nephi and Elder Gunnarson

-Ringo eventually, as he mentioned that he’ll be leading a caravan to Utah soon

  • Dead Sea

Am I missing anyone?

7 Comments
2024/11/04
03:59 UTC

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Strength of Institute lasers in the lore

Is there any information in FO4 about the strength of the Institute's laser weaponry compared to the standard (red) lasers? I know they're much weaker in stats, but let's not forget how FO3 had the Enclave's Advanced Power Armour Mark 2 be on par with T-45d (obviously a gameplay change to balance the loot). Plus, there's FO4 and FO76 having different hierarchies for the T-51b and T-60 (only one would be canon to the lore), which is another case where stats aren't necessarily canon.

So lore-wise, are Institute lasers stronger or weaker than the standard ones?

5 Comments
2024/11/02
09:54 UTC

60

How dangerous is the coast and rivers now?

IRL rivers and coastlines served as centers of trade and many capitals of empires lay on the coast or rivers, Constantinople, Paris, London, etc However seeing as how the Castle was destroyed by a Mirelurk queen, and the lack of port towns/cities in the fallout games, would it be safe to assume River travel is even more dangerous then by land now?

Notice how also most settlements in FO4 are in the northern commonwealth around some rivers or creeks but the coast is practically abandoned.

17 Comments
2024/11/01
18:49 UTC

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Is there a map of all the nukes launched in fallout universe?

recently I've seen a meme with nukes launching all over the world, it was on a globe animated timelapse. It was a meme about fallout, but that map intrigued me. I do assume it's just some simulation of if nuclear war happened now, except, it was against USA and China, and the map (moreso country borders) are still in the cold war, which made me think it might actually be related to fallout. Now IK it's most likely some fanmade assumption of the explosions, but I just want to make sure to see if there is an official anouncement.

14 Comments
2024/10/31
17:05 UTC

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favorite piece of fo3 lore?

25 Comments
2024/10/31
07:15 UTC

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How did the east coast BoS avoid facing stagnation and become even more powerful than the original west coast BoSi

22 Comments
2024/10/30
14:38 UTC

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"There's a flaw just below the chest plate"- some ghoul

So I'm re-watching the fallout show again(peak entertainment btw) and I saw the line "...there's a welding flaw, just below the chest plate." And in fallout 76, the chinese power armor was created in order to replicate I belive either the T-60 or T-50 power armor. My point is, if the chinese was replicating the power armor, wouldn't they have a copy made by the Americans that they may have took during the battle Anchorage? Thus my question being, did the chinese know of this flaws? And if they did, why didn't they abuse this flaw in the armor?

84 Comments
2024/10/29
17:40 UTC

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How long would it take until scavenging becomes an unrealistic money maker?

After long enough of settlements forming and groups making formerly abandoned buildings private, I imagine the common career of looking through ruins and taking stuff would phase out.

a lot of it has probably already traded hands, and is now sitting in stash boxes owned by now-dead scavvers (at least by the time of the sole survivor), but how long would that happen, how long would it take for everything to be properly claimed and guarded by people like the pre-war era?

200 years later it's as profitable as ever and people still leave cores laying behind novice locks, 500 years? More time? Less?

19 Comments
2024/10/29
01:59 UTC

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How are ncr presidents selected?

Are ncr presidents directly voted by the people or do the people vote for politicians who in turn vote for the president?

14 Comments
2024/10/28
16:07 UTC

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Do you ever discover the Enclave's plan for arroyo ahead of time / is it foreshadowed?

Iirc this is kind of a big twist in fallout 2s narrative, and... Arguably the exact point the main story actually becomes clear (at the end of the game lol). Fallout 2 is a big game though so I was wondering if I just missed any indication of how the enclave found arroyo in the first place.

7 Comments
2024/10/25
17:29 UTC

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is the marine and ranger type armour the same?

So is the marine armour just and upgraded version of the LAPD combat armour made for the military?

2 Comments
2024/10/25
16:30 UTC

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Does only the gatekeepers pip-boy open the vault door?

In the tv show, Chet got taken off gate duty because he opened the vault door for Lucy, but this didn’t make sense to me. My knowledge from the game is that any pip boy can open the door to any vault, as seen by the numerous vaults you can enter using the pip boy in game (not including partially opened vaults like vault 22).

So whether or not Chet is on gate duty or not wouldn’t stop anyone with a pip-boy from being able to open the vault door.

7 Comments
2024/10/24
15:28 UTC

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Do ghouls need to eat or drink?

So with the Ghouls dropping in 76 as a playable race they have a feature of not needing to eat or drink to survive.

So we're the ghouls in Necropolis lying to me? I know Set isn't the best guy and lying isn't below him. But it seemed like those ghouls really needed their water chip.

Do ghouls need food and water?

32 Comments
2024/10/23
20:06 UTC

107

Are beer bottle caps used as currency or only nuka cola caps?

32 Comments
2024/10/23
17:27 UTC

30

What does the legion do with soldiers that die in battle?

14 Comments
2024/10/23
07:58 UTC

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What would be NCR's architecture ?

In early games, we see a lot of stuff that's similar to adobe buildings with flat roofs, which echoes Puebloan revival. We also see buildings that are, well, shacks built in the need of a shelter, so made up of various scavenged materials. Do you think they would have more styles, or more precise stuff to add ?

8 Comments
2024/10/22
16:14 UTC

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How would the Brotherhood have realistically reacted to a fully-settled Commonwealth armed with artillery and Minutemen?

Something that sort of bothered me about the Brotherhood arriving was their lack of comments on the Minutemen at all, aside from when you get the Minutemen ending and they get jealous.

The Brotherhood chapter in FO4 is very intense about what they're doing, and judging by their reaction to go to the Commonwealth attack the institute after just obtaining high energy readings with no explanation of what they were actually coming from, or taking the generator from Rivet City for their own use, it would seem pretty likely that they'd have a strong reaction to the "farmers" having access to weapon pieces that could blow them out of the sky at a minute's notice, but yet we get nothing in game. Dance is the only one who really comments on what your faction is building up to, and that's only when you have him with you when you build the first artillery piece.

Just what *would* have happened aboard the Prydwen if scouts reported that virtually every settlment on the map was well-built and armed with long range artillary? They would have to feel threatened for sure, but just what kind of protocol would they go for? Avoid conflict or try to cripple their weapons somehow?

88 Comments
2024/10/22
09:42 UTC

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How well are Vault Dweller's and Chosen One's stories known across the NCR and nearby areas?

Yeah, mainly concerning the protagonists of the first two games. Are they considered more as legends and tall tales across the west coast wastelands or do average citizens learn anything concrete about their adventures from education systems, books, etc.?

I know Vault Dweller at least is at least remembered in central NCR, since in Fallout 2 they have a statue of him (for wiping out the khans, if I remember correctly) but how many normal people are aware of him ending the Master's plans?

Chosen One is most likely highly known around modern Arroyo, hell he might even still be alive throughout New Vegas, but, I don't remember him being mentioned much in Vegas, except by Marcus, so is he written about in the history books or did NCR just kind of forget about him, and took all the credit for defeating the Enclave after the battle of Navarro?

12 Comments
2024/10/21
17:01 UTC

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Vault Tec Scientist In CPL?

Cant include image but is it intentional or reused assets?

5 Comments
2024/10/19
13:06 UTC

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The Idea That New York Is Just a Crater in Fallout Is Ridiculous—There's So Much Lore Potential!

I think the most annoying thing about this fanbase is how New York is often dismissed as being completely destroyed by nuclear strikes, leaving nothing but a crater. This makes no sense to me for several reasons:

  1. If LA, a city that in our timeline has the second-highest population and is incredibly important to the US after NYC, survives, I have no doubt that some form of NYC and its surrounding suburbs would also survive. When people think of NYC—or even the state of New York—they only seem to think of Manhattan and its surrounding boroughs, when there are literally millions of people living around the city, including in cities connected to NYC like Philadelphia and Washington, D.C. Plus, if the logic is that NYC is a crater, why isn’t D.C. a crater? D.C. is much smaller than even Manhattan and has more strategic value for China to nuke it into oblivion, yet most of the capital is still standing.

  2. It also makes no sense that China would drop thousands of nukes just on NYC. In our timeline, upstate New York is a deindustrialized region, so it might make sense in that context to focus on NYC (like, who in our timeline would drop a nuke on Buffalo, NY? It already looks nuked!). My point is that in our timeline, most of New York State struggled due to deindustrialization and the end of the Cold War, which led to the shutdown of factories and military bases. In the Fallout timeline, however, NYC wouldn’t be the only city in the state with importance. I imagine New York as a state would still have economic value comparable to that of the 1950s, meaning other cities in New York that have become less relevant in our timeline could still be significant in the Fallout universe.

  3. Even if we assume that China did nuke NYC heavily and it’s now a crater, that wouldn’t wipe out New York as a whole. Upstate New York would still exist, and survivors would likely migrate up the Hudson River to settle in a post-apocalyptic Albany and its surrounding suburbs or head to the Adirondacks to escape the high radiation levels below.

  4. New York could also be a great setting for lore concerning Canada, given that Canada’s capital is just across the Great Lakes. With multiple military bases (shut down in our timeline, but likely operational in the Fallout timeline), the lore could explore how the invasion of Canada came about and its connection to New York.

73 Comments
2024/10/18
17:29 UTC

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Tenpenny and International Travel

Hello all, I've been playing Fallout for almost 2 full decades now, and I love this game series so much that I want to learn as much as I can to top off my knowledge of certain things, and I was hoping that somebody could answer this for me.

Allister Tenpenny is a character from Fallout 3, who resides in his self named building, Tenpenny Tower. He's a staunch racist, practicing sniper and richest person this side of the Mississippi. He said he's from Great Britain, or the wasteland near what was, and made the otherwise unheard of leap to the continental US across the Atlantic Ocean, down to DC.

Besides the main characters, this isn't the first time characters have traveled thousands of miles to get somewhere. Immediately I think of Harold, the ghoul from the first 2 games that made his way to DC by walking an ungodly distance with a tree in his head. The vertibirds that allowed the Enclave to travel from Mariposa to DC are also a means of transportation, but mainly reserved for militaries that have large control of bases, like the BOS, NCR and Enclave. Others like Ulysses, Elijah, and Christine have also walked multiple states to get places on foot, but almost none like Tenpenny.

The closest example I can find that's similar is the Ferryman for the DLC point lookout in Fallout 3, where they operate a sea worthy ship that can travel to Maine across part of the Atlantic near the coast. It's a 12 hour long trip, but otherwise it's about 10 days of walking. This is, besides the raft to Caesar's camp in Fallout New Vegas, the only time you need to travel across water via a vessel to get somewhere, and it really doesn't seem common at all. In fact, it seems almost groundbreaking.

In Vegas, the water is far less irradiated than in DC, which is likely a lot better for watercraft, and preserving bombers in lakes, and seems way more harsh on ocean vessels, citing Rivet City, so I'm far less interested in the why's and how's of them doing it there.

What I want to know is if there is any kind of indication or lore that expands on the frequency of travel across the Atlantic. I know about Colin, but I've never been sure if he's authentic or just somebody raised around the accent, like how the Dead Horses use parts of other languages like German to call people things like "Auslander" (outsider), being nowhere near Germany.

Was this just a one off, and Allister Tenpenny is the Neil Armstrong of post apocalyptic ocean travel? Or is it a more or less frequent thing for small and wealthy groups?

29 Comments
2024/10/17
21:49 UTC

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Lorewise, are energy weapons the pinnacle of pre-war weapons?

Without considering in-game stats, are energy weapons superior to guns in terms of firepower? Or maybe the laser weapon was easier to handle while the plasma weapon would eat through armor or something? Please educate me

55 Comments
2024/10/17
09:59 UTC

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Is the show in different timelapse with Frank horrigan?

Just eanted to know if we could see this badass in action

9 Comments
2024/10/16
22:45 UTC

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Arthur Maxson and the Midwestern Brotherhood

What is the relationship between these two, assuming that Tactics is canon (which it most likely is), as the latter seem to have built an empire by the end of Tactics, and as we now know as of 2296 Maxson is the “main” leader of the Brotherhood, having reconnected with the West?

38 Comments
2024/10/16
21:54 UTC

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