GOHAN’S BIRTH AND SAIYAN SAGA TIMELINE:

• Official birth date: May 18th, Age 757
• Age 4 when Raditz attacks in Age 761
• Age 5 when Vegeta and Nappa arrive on Earth in Age 762

FRIEZA SAGA TIMELINE:

1/ Recovery and Preparation Period (approximately 3 months total):

• Time needed for Gohan to recover from injuries sustained in Saiyan battle
• Time spent preparing for the Namek trip and and for Bulma to modify the spaceship needed for the journey.
• Actual travel time from Earth to planet Namek

*The time Gohan stayed on Namek is relatively short; it is insignificant, so I don’t count it here.

*Namek Dragon Ball Usage Pattern:

• Namekian Dragon Balls require 130 days to recharge between uses
• Namek's Dragon (Porunga) has specific rules:
  • Can grant 3 wishes per summon
  • Can only revive one person per wish (unlike Earth's dragon)

2/ First Use of Namek Dragon Balls on Earth:

• Required careful planning because Namek was destroyed
• Wishes used:
  1. Called Krillin's soul back to Earth first (crucial strategic wish because if they had simply revived him, he would have appeared in space where Namek used to be and died immediately)
  2. Resurrected Krillin once his soul was safely on Earth
  3. Resurrected Yamcha
• Followed by 130-day recharge period

3/ Second Use of Namek Dragon Balls on Earth:

• Wishes used:
  1. Resurrected Chaozu
  2. Resurrected Tien Shinhan
  3. Transported all surviving Namekians to their new planet (since their original planet was destroyed)

=> Total time calculation: 3 months (preparation + travel to Namek) + 130 days (first recharge) + 130 days (second recharge) = approximately 350 days

4/ Additional Waiting Period:

• One more year waiting for Goku to return
• This brings timeline to Age 764, when Future Trunks appears
• At this point, Gohan is 7 years old

CELL SAGA TIMELINE:

• Future Trunks warns of Androids appearing 3 years later
• Androids appear in Age 767 (Gohan is 10)
• During Age 767:
  • Gohan trains in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with Goku
  • One day inside equals one year outside
  • Creates two different age concepts:
    • Calendar age: 10 (actual years since birth)
    • Real physical age: 11 (including time chamber year)
    • Written in documentation as: 10(11) years old

Some Noticeable Cell Saga Dates:

• Cell Games end on May 26th, Age 767
• Goku dies
• Goten's birth date: August 26th, Age 767 - exactly 3 months after the Cell Games ended
• Notable detail: Chi-Chi showed no visible pregnancy signs 3 months earlier (when the Cell Games ended) due to the unique characteristics of Saiyan-related pregnancies

BUU SAGA TIMELINE:

• Takes place on May 7th, Age 774 (Tenkaichi Budokai's starting date)
• 7 years after Cell Games
• Goten is approximately 7 years old (6, about to turn 7)
• Kid Trunks is approximately 8 years old (7, about to turn 8). Trunks' birthday is June 1st, Age 766
• Since Goten's and Trunks' ages are stated by characters in the manga, they are rounded up, explaining why they are called 7 and 8 respectively despite their birthdays not having arrived yet
• Gohan's age appears to create a discrepancy:
  • Expected age would be 17(18) based on pure math
  • However, the manga explicitly states he's 16. This is stated by the narrator (or the author) in the manga, so we expect it to be precisely accurate and not rounded up
  • Explanation: Although it's 7 years later (774), the events occur before Gohan's birthday (May 18th)
  • Therefore his calendar age is still 16 (about to turn 17)
  • His real age including Time Chamber year is 17 (about to turn 18)
  • Therefore, his age at the beginning of Buu Saga is 16(17) instead of the expected 17(18)
  • This explains why the manga panel correctly lists him as 16
• The Buu event ends on May 8th, Age 774 (still before Gohan's 17th birthday)

This timeline accounts for:

• All specific Dragon Ball uses
• Exact wish sequences
• Time Chamber effects on aging
• Saiyan biological differences
• Calendar versus real age distinctions
• All official dates
• The seeming age discrepancy in the Buu Saga

Man that was a fun trip to go on considering I haven't watched it in order since year 2000. I noticed alot of stuff in it that was filler and has been Canon. Imo Canon is dependent on what your watching. For me yamcha and krillins otherworld training during kid buu is canonical to db-dbz-dbgt but not to dbz Kai and super. I want to watch the end of Kai to see if it fits better with super. I just don't see how super is a direct sequel to dbz. One 18 is a massive bitch to krillin... I guess there relationship could have soured post ToP but I don't like that. I much more prefer their relationship in super to the one I see at the end of Z. That really isn't the thing that doesn't fit for me tho... what doesn't fit is bulma having aged in a noticeable way. At the end of super she is still having cosmetic surgery done to her and she doesn't wear that old lady hair style. There is also trunks, he acts as tho him an goten don't attend the same school smh. I love goten being a regular teenage kid btw who's girl crazy. I mean it is refreshing to have one character who could potentially be a central focus who is just a normal personality as opposed to genius or saiyan mentality.

Now someone please shatter my belief regarding bulma and trunks and goten seemingly not seeing each other for a good minute. I realize they struggled to fuse in super hero but I just assumed it was because they were doing what vegeta had said and learned to be strong on their own ?

His personality is realistic which is why he's my favorite character. Lotta people in real life are quiet and don't say much just like Jiren so I guess he's my favorite because I can relate to him: Quiet, Introverted, and a lone wolf.

What is it you think ?

Specifically, this was around the time that Ocean Dub fell off and was replaced.

Look here though (Goku vs Recoom Ocean Dub): https://youtu.be/hb7dxoC0u6Q?si=fOBtXgL7BLg2jyQt

Or Vegeta vs Recoom (ocean dub): https://youtu.be/Xk8pdhmMJBs?si=i53FbU_blEo-2MIH

And then compare it later on (Goku vs Captain Ginyu (https://youtu.be/L7NEvswgkFQ?si=CnX8asSf71oCeJ_x)

The quality of the animation feels less fluid? There’s other examples, like when it was Vegeta vs Goku round 1 compared to Vegeta vs Frieza but it feels like after the Ocean Dub was replaced from mainstream, the quality completely shifts.

Any reason for that?

You remember that time when this random dude named Broly ran the greatest fade of all time?! Well I do.

Long story short. The z-fighters were not winning that fight.

Deus ex machina aside Broly actually murked everybody, end of story. Goku did not just absorb the energy of his almost dead teammates, and stand a chance. It just didn't happen.

"Ow iTs a MoViE" yeah, so was Resurrection F, and the time Goku smoked by a regular laser gun. You comfortable with that?

Super Perfect Cell was stated to have enough power to destroy the entire solar system. Stated, as in hypothetical.

Broly literally destroyed a quarter of the universe, and King Ki had to make a telephone call to Goku, warning him of his fade potential.

They say the movies are in an alternative reality. Therefore in reality Broly won.

Question

Do you know ?

Go Broly go go

Watching the series with Daima oicking up where DBZ supposedly left off...17 and 18 get to come back, but why no wish for 16? Dude wanted to hang with butterflies and birds all day. Feel like they pretty much took 16's character and injected it into 17 in DBS since he didn't really establish himself like 18. Am I wrong? Any others out there for 16?

I remember starting to a fan manga that had multiple differnt gokus and evil versions fight the z warrior's.

I think vegeta has better feats than goku and goku has never beat vegeta 1 on 1. Other than frieza goku def doesn’t have a feat like vegeta beating top 1 on 1 and tbh beating frieza isn’t as good because toppo >>> frieza. Vegeta is like lebron James in a way because all his losses are just plot bs.

Hello, I’m very new to the world of Dragonball but my boyfriend is a huge fan, so for Christmas I got him a set of dragon balls. Now my idea was to hide them around the house and have him find all of them, so my question is, how are dragon balls found in the show? Are there clues like a treasure hunt? Or do they just detect them somehow? I wanna write a note or something to instigate the search and I want it to be on theme but I’m struggling with how to do that because I’m not very familiar with the show. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

I know the movies are not canon (most of them), but does toyotaro's illustration of icarus and gohan make him canon? Or am i wrong?

i get it, we love all the other characters, but after watching GT again, the story makes alot of sense.

since kid buus defeat to the end of Z is 10 years, no one really trains hard, goku and vegeta kinda do but nothing serious.

goku takes uub and trains for 5 extra years, uub who cant fly but assuming hes strong because of being the reincarnation of Buu we have no reason to believe is stronger then ss1 at this time ( a huge jump from any human)

so what has happen in 15 years, gohan has a life and just the the time skip from cell to buu (7 years) he got weaker, goten and trunks live normal lives, and vegeta gets a mustache haircut and jeans ( now on earth for 26+ years makes sense) and piccolo probably also goes into peace ( him in gt makes no sense and i wont defend it his death was stupid)

goku is the only character to have actaully trained and keep up with everything,

during the fight with baby it was goku + uub and pan vs baby vegeta, who is as strong as a SS3. the rest of the cast has been possessed.

even when uub fuses with majin buu he cant be stronger then a ss3, we have no indication that he was even at ss1 level, but even if he is ss3 standards, baby great ape is 10x stronger then a ss3. who can fight besides a ss4 goku, thats it.

same thinking with super 17, 2 fused characters being super strong? we saw that with piccolo twice and uub in the last arc, one 17 being an upgrade being able to absorb energy, it makes sense how a SS2 vegeta cant beat him, and again a ss4 goku just over powers him, and with to much enegry a dragon fist kills. who else but goku can do it.

shadow shenron, yea more characters can join in on the fight, but i do want to say ss4 vegeta is = the same ass pull as gohan becoming ultimate. niether goku nor vegeta can defeat omega, but thats why ss4 gogeta and the universal spirt bomb were in place, kinda good plot

tldr: goku is the only one to train in 15 years, and the cast slacks off. all new foes are greater then ss3 and the cast can barley reach ss2

So in future trunks timeline earth is pretty depopulated so babidi gathers energy in space and comes back 10 years later than in the main timeline iirc.

However in the future trunks timeline Shin, elder kaioshin and kibito die and Trunks lives. Black chooses this timeline because uniquely Beerus is dead because Shin is.

However at first glance cells timeline is worse off with Trunks being dead yet Shin must live.

At first I wondered if Shin just didn't confront babidi directly but we know in all timelines he doesn't realise he has Dabra so should have tried. Did they manage to teleport away before dabra could speedlitz kibito?

Did they recruit Broly? Or use Nameks dragonballs on the future warriors sans Goku and vegeta who might have kept bodies?

Is it possible Bulma makes another time machine after cell steals it? and they bring future Trunks back to life, maybe picking up a dende thanks to a living goku in the unseen timeline?

How long would it take her to make a whole new one and fuel it? She's not in hiding anymore at least. Do you think it's possible to have a time machines coordinates backup so she can get back to the unseen without forking the timeline again?

Just seen Pan for the first time during my first run of DBZ and THAT IS LITERALLY JUST BABY VIDEL YOU CANNOT CHANGE MY MIND