i checked on disney+ and prime, it just isn't there. can i watch it without vpn?

anyone have the japanese dub for the movie

Honestly, I liked the premise of Eugene being a thief - a "nobody". I thought the way Eugene's character developed from a selfish, "master thief" to a caring person was cool to see. Obviously, being a prince doesn't change that, but somehow I think being inherently privileged just seemed wrong for his character. What do you think?

I’ve just finished watching the last episode and I don’t understand how Zhan Tiri could take the Sun Drop power as a stone from Rapunzel if she was born with this power and didn’t have any stones before (unlike Cassandra). So confusing…

I just finished watching the series for the first time (coincidentally, it happens to be the day of the solar lunar eclipse) and I am a bit sad because I don't know where to go next. That usually is the case with me when I finish a good show, the sadness takes a bit to taper off

In the meanwhile, I came across the twisted tale series and the Tangled book "What Once Was Mine" from said series. That said, is it worth checking out? And also, what other stuff would you recommend

Thanks!

Okay so I am watching tangles season 2 episode 14 where we find out about varian's Dad and I just have to say how did I notice this when I was watching like the first season I was wondering why they were zooming in on the thing symbol but oh my god I could not have realized that

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRTsACpY/

Seeing a shit ton of POC make content being anti Avantika sucks. But here’s a history lesson for you people about her “German” origins lol

Hello to all fans of Tangled, before I start this discussion, I would like to tell all of you readers to be nice to me, other people who will comment, or those whose opinions you are against. This is a big world with billions of opinions raised in different aspects of culture, be respectful. this is a discussion, NOT A FIGHT. Honestly, chill.

It's actually a really long post, but bear with me.

READ FIRST, THEN COMMENT. DIDN'T READ? DON'T COMMENT - it's that simple.

Okay so, to be specifically clear, I am Southeast Asian (Bruneian), so I'm a what the internet apparently calls, 'Brown Asian', that's a new term for me lol. Avantika Vandanapu, the actress that's rumored to be playing Rapunzel in the upcoming Tangled Live Action Remake, is American with South Asian (Indian) roots. She is also a Brown Asian, and us Brown Asians, don't really see a lot of representation in Hollywood Media.

So, I've been watching a lot of TikTok videos about people arguing with each other about the so called 'race change' and I've put a lot of thought into it, and I realized that both sides have a good reason, and this situation is not really black and white like how a lot of people think it is. It's complicated.

So, there are two sides, right? Those who don't mind Asian-German Rapunzel, and those who do. And to be honest with you, I'm on the side of those who do. But before you scroll down the comments and be hateful and pretentious idiots, again please READ FIRST.

Based on the TikTok videos, those who don't mind the race change's arguments are that Race does not equal Nationality. You can be Asian and German at the same time, hence, Asian-German. A video from a TikTok account by the name of thenewclassic2020 explains this thoroughly, although in my humble opinion, his way of explaining was a wee bit degrading, but I digress.

But in his defense, he was going after those who are comparing Tiana (African-American Princess) to Rapunzel. And he's right! Tiana's race has a lot to do with the plot of the story, so she isn't exactly the right Disney Princess to compare Rapunzel with. Neither does Mulan, Raya, Moana, Pocahontas and Jasmine, all of which are Disney Princesses of Color. The Disney Versions of their stories are CULTURE HEAVY. So yeah, Tiana isn't exactly the best princess to compare Rapunzel's story with.

But my defense is not Tiana or any other princesses. It's where the fairy tale that Disney was inspired from originated. At this point, it is a fact that Rapunzel is GERMAN. And I do believe that it should stay that way. So here are my arguments:

1) Fairy Tales have Culture

The Google Definition of Culture: the ARTS and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively.

Stories have culture in them. Fairy tales, Lullabies, Bedtime Stories, Horror Stories, Mythology and Lores have Culture. An Asian example for fairy tales that originated from Brunei is the story of Nakoda Manis, a very popular one among my people. It is a fairy tale told to children. He was a boy that came from a poor family raised by a single mother. When he grew to an adult, he left his mother and married a princess and became rich. Returning back to his old land with his new wife, he stumbled upon his poor mother and told his princess wife and rich friends that she is NOT his mother, in fears that they might not accept his poor past. The mother broken hearted, prayed to the skies to punish her son and his friends, and during a huge storm, Nakoda Manis' ship with him, his wife and his company in it, turned into stone. The mother regrets her prayers and hopes that the sky would forgive him and his actions as she did, but in the end, the skies did not answer, as the punishment was fit for his crimes.

This Fairy Tale was NOT CULTURE HEAVY. So, if Hollywood or Disney in particular, were to stumble upon this story, and make a movie out of them, I can assure you, my people would be furious. As would I. The closest Hollywood ever made was Raya and The Last Dragon, which is a Southeast Asian Inspired movie. But even then, I'm not sure which Asian culture they found inspiration from.

The point is, there are millions out there who holds these stories to heart, and it makes sense. They grew up with it. Yes, these stories are NOT REAL, but they have origin. They were passed down through MANY GENERATIONS and were spread throughout a certain community. This is Culture. Disney found its inspiration for Rapunzel from a German Fairy Tale, to have them played by a Non-German Actress, is just plain disrespectful.

2) Avantika Vandanapu is SOUTH ASIAN

Rapunzel's story came from the 3rd Century, which is like... 1700 years ago. This fairy tale is REALLY OLD, and the older they are, the more precious and cultural they become. And for those who are curious, The Tale of Nakoda Manis, is less than a hundred years old. So, imagine how precious something THIS old is.

Back to my point, during the 3rd Century, South Asians were NOT PRESENT during that era. Only Central and East Asians were. So, to have a South Asian play Rapunzel would historically, NOT MAKE SENSE. I don't really mind a race change of a certain character, but make it make sense.

One of the bad examples are Halle Bailey's Ariel. In the Live Action, it's technically a right casting choice. Ariel is Carribean, although she's white in cartoon, historically speaking, she should've been a person of color. But what confused me was that Ariel's sisters were of different races. I even saw one that's Asian. "Calm down their literally just fish," as a person with a degree in Aquaculture, I can tell you with many FACTS that Ariel is indeed NOT A FISH. Girlie doesn't have gills. It is just not scientifically possible to call Ariel a fish and have different race of sisters WITH THE SAME MOTHER. I understand that the sisters were to represent the Seven Seas, Ariel being the Carribean Sea. So, that only tells me that King Triton went around the world, MATING with different mermaids from different seas to have his daughters. And that just... did not sit right with me. So, if you want, Black Ariel, have her have black sisters.

A good example is Leah Jeffries' Annabeth, even though she's blonde and white in the books and movie, the writers made it make sense by having Zeus (Father to Athena - whose daughter is Annabeth) black. Which means, Black grampa equals Black Demi-God Granddaughter. THAT MAKES SENSE.

In Rapunzel's case, it is just NOT POSSIBLE to have a SOUTH ASIAN be in German Territories. Because one, it was geographically not possible. Do you know how messy the Earth was 1700 YEARS AGO. The Earth changes its form every couple of years. And two, transportation wasn't exactly at its best conditions during that Era. It was just not possible.

3) The Japan Miss Universe Controversy of Ariana Miyamoto

So... I don't get it, you know? How can the internet be mad at Ariana for representing Japan for Miss Universe? She has Japanese roots, her mother is Japanese, but her father is of African-American Decent. Although she was born in Ukraine, she spent most of her childhood in Japan. She was raised Japanese, she was surrounded with Japanese Culture, yet people have the audacity to be mad and send hate to her. It was so bad, she gave up her crown of Miss Universe (There were other reasons like an affair I think, but the hate she received was one of them).

So even if she was born in Ukraine, she's still Japanese. She lived there her entire life, yet, because she did not look like the classic Japanese, the world did not accept her as Japan's Miss Universe. Not even the people of Japan themselves.

So, if South Asian Rapunzel, who historically had no possible way of ever existing there, is acceptable, how can someone IN REAL LIFE, was not accepted by society to represent Japan for Miss Universe DESPITE GROWING UP THERE. Is it only okay in movies? Is that the only place where representation matters?

4) It is NOT "just a movie"

This brings me from point Number 1, can you imagine, you're someone who carries a lot of Fairy tales and bedtime stories to heart. You grew up with them, and you know that these stories originated from your people, and then Hollywood decided to make a movie out of them. But too bad, so sad, they don't look like you.

The stories that you grew up with was taken from you, and then when you try to defend yourself on the internet, people keep telling you to "calm down, it's just a movie. It's not real, so stop making a big deal out of it."

These stories lived in your heart, and to throw it away, it's like throwing away your heart. It's just NOT AN OPTION. So yeah, there are people out there, Germans specifically, who have the right to DEMAND A GERMAN PRINCESS.

But someone in TikTok told me in the comments that even if they did have a white Rapunzel, the white actress playing would probably not be German. Like how other fans tried to fan cast by casting women like Florence Pugh, Sabrina Carpenter, Sydney Sweeney, Meg Donnelly and Dove Cameron. These are all talented white actresses, but none of them are German. And honestly the TikTokker was right. That in itself is a problem as well.

The people who want a German Rapunzel, don't want white Rapunzel, they want the Original Rapunzel. And if Original Rapunzel is white, then there's nothing wrong with that. If you do think so, then you're no better than the idiotic conservatives who think Tiana can be white.

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In conclusion, there are many more reasons that I can't think of right now (lol) as to why Asian-German Rapunzel would just not work. There is an importance in culture and originality, and I think a lot of people don't see that in a big circle. They just think Culture equals History, when it's more than that. It's not just history, it's story.

Would love to hear your opinions on my arguments.

A big reminder, be senseful, logical and respectful when commenting and replying to other people's comments. I say this to people on BOTH SIDES. DON'T BE HATEFUL!

With love,

Eden.

How is that?

Both Rapunzel and Ed are two girls with less than ideal childhoods far away from their parents.

Both have animal friends, which for Ed, she has a Corgi named Ein.

Both are not afraid with interacting with strangers.

Both are very creative and are experts with what they do at a young age, with Punzie being an artist and Ed being a hacker.

Both are barefoot and barely wear shoes.

Both are happy, bubbly, punky, cheerful and adorable.

Finally, Rapunzel's haircut is all spiky and messy, just like Ed's

Okay I am new to the tangled franchise and I am still on season. One varian is my favorite character I only watched the series because of ready as I'll ever be my question is that in queen for a day I think varian will go on his villain arc I need to know will varians villain arc be finished by season 1 or will it keep going on

This is gonna be pretty controversial but I've seen some people consider this show as non-canon to the movie, or to Tangled Ever After.

Some arguments I've heard include:

1. The art style is very different and "childish"

2. Rapunzel is a Mary-Sue, that isn't like how she was in the movie.

3. Eugene is pushed to the side and made into a comic relief.

4. Cassandra was an OC by the creators who hogged the spotlight.

5. None of the original creative team behind the movie worked on the show.

6. Rapunzel becoming queen amounts to nothing as she's still a Disney Princess.

What do you guys think?

What arguments can be made regarding how the show is not canon if you guys believe so?

The three different versions of Varian summed up in one meme

Please, I need help with this! I want to make a TTS edit using Hazbin Hotel songs since they both give off similar vibes to me. However, so many ideas are taken. Does anyone have a suggestion?

I finished the movies, shows, & shorts. And honestly? I'm emotionally exhausted.

The problem is that I relate too much to Rapunzel that it can be painful. Specifically her relationship with Mother Gothel. And then as soon as I saw Cass in Before Ever After, I knew it was going to be a difficult relationship for Rapunzel, too.

Anyone else find Tangled a bit much to deal with if you've also had experiences like Rapunzel?

I can't be the only who thought it was wild that another movie Mandy Moore was in 7 years before called How To Deal looking like Rapunzel when her got short and even sported a lavender dress in some scenes of the movie as well.

Even crazier is that Trent Ford even looks like a clean-shaven Eugene!

Another funny thing to point out is that movie features the song Right Thurr by Chingy which has the lyrics "let down your hair". Connecting the dots?