CW: A lot of mentions of abuse scattered throughout the post. Like, a lot.

I have a wild love-hate with getting into these comment sections

The usual arguemnts aside. I don't like how s3 Cass was written, either (or how s3 anyone was written, if I'm being honest). The biggest thing for me on here is the comparing trauma. Like Varian being "allowed" to attempt an usurpation of Corona because what he experienced was supposedly more understandable/more traumatic. Bro First I'll say that comparing trauma to begin with is not fair to anyone involved, but if we were to compare:

For this particular case, none of these characters are particulary well-off mentally. Varian is emotionally neglected by his father (his only living parent) and ends up encasing him in a formation of amber in an extremely shocking chemical accident, for which he recieves absolutely no help from anybody. He's then imprisoned (by a dude who said not a season ago that he would never put a child in prison) with a bunch of adult terrorists for, what? Months? All this in the same year or so. Euegene has been hopping orphanages and swiping meals and loose change since he was little and just happened to narrowly avoid being hung for it because he's to marry a princess who has some influence over how the law is executed. Cassandra's maladaptive amnesia blocked out memories of her neglectful and emotionally abusive bio mom abandoning her (hello avoidant attachment style and conditional self-esteem!), where she's found by the captain who is only marginally better -- she winces when Raps tries to touch her in the books -- and begins chasing a life where she believes she will finally feel loved, only to watch all these opportunities go to someone else who doesn't deserve them or to give them away to a pretty blonde woman with bright green doe eyes. Speaking of her, 18 consecutive years of narcissistic abuse, only to be thrown into the deep water of society and try to adjust into one of the highest roles of leadership able to be achieved at the time, and landed with a bio dad who is, again, not much better than the parent she just managed to get away from. In short, half are orphans and most (if not all) of their parents or parental figures have been abusive to some degree.

So which one of these people is and isn't allowed to have problems? Bonus question: Which one is allowed to be a terrorist?

And this is probably the wildest thing I have seen here so far, so bear with -- people dislike Cass because she's not a minority. Why are y'all so obsessed with that fact? Like the only way for any pain trauma or suffering in your life to be valid is if you're a minority? ya;ll want me to believe that a rich white dude who gets beat down by his dad every day, is purposefully socially isolated because of his verbally abusive mom, and has un-tended-to trauma from witnessing the deaths of his every other family member is going to be happier and better off overall than a mentally healthy black lady who lives in a loving middle class family home because he's... *checks notes, squints really hard*\ ... white??? The astounding lack of nuance. I'm an unemployed neurodivergent Boricua and broke as a screen door in a hurricane, but I know rich white men personally who I have beat at fulfillment by a mile and a half because it turns out you can't validate or invalidate a person's traumas solely off their SES. Note too that both times this was coming from folks who favor Raps. I love her too (I want to go find cool rocks with her so we can go home and paint them), but if you're hating characters based off who's a 1%er and who's not, you'd hate her too.

Cass is a lady in waiting, so she can't be upset that someone else is continually and arbitrarily being given the exact thing she wants in life? Rapunzel is a princess. Eugene is a prince now too, so neither should have any problems either, right?

And "Cass hates poor people"?? Where did y'all get that from? The fact that she is a guard for the castle and the princess is marrying a thief who has been wanted for years? I love Eugene too (he is the only person keeping me bi right now), but you cannot seriously be mad that someone who is charged with the security of the castle is trying to keep the castle secure. like Until you let a wanted thief into your house for tea, I really don't want to hear anything about Cass "hating poor people". "Cass bullies him tho" correction, they bully each other. It was never made clear as to why or when it started, but they do. It aint one-sided

"Cass is literally a colonialist, taking artifacts from places!" I mean, yeah. The story does take place in a monarchist country. But "... but you're forgetting we're in a room full of magical artifacts, and I don't know what any of them do!" isn't a Cass quote. And there was literally an episode about everyone going to a tomb and trying to get the buried treasure. Like, they made a day of it. Everyone went. It was a party. Disney glorifies monarchy and the principles that allow it to work, no surprises there.

Why varian had to go to jail and Cass literally got to go on vacation? No clue. Made no sense to me. He didn't even get a chance to destroy the castle. And Cass wasn't even held to helping to repair it after she destroyed it. To me this comes off as an oversight so Disney can push the "friendship matters more than anything" angle at all costs, even at the cost of basic logic. Not an uncommon problem with this show.

I feel like some of yall are just making up reasons to hate her atp

Ik it’s a common thing to fan cast her, but I think that would be a mistake on Disney‘s part. While she may be able to sing, I think that it could make parents upset, rightfully. Her music is very inappropriate and her being Rapunzel would draw attention to it. Imagine taking your little kid to see a Disney movie and then them wanting to listen to her music. While I’m not trying to diss or snark on her, someone who does s*x positions on stage wouldn’t be a good face for Tangled. I think that Disney should either go with an upcoming star like McKenna Grace or a familiar face like Madelyn Cline and maybe Florence Pugh. Ik that all of them can actually sing, too!

I’d rather them not make one at all but here are my options (top being most want and bottom being least):

Rapunzel:

Meg Donnelly

Sofia Carson

Auli’i Cravalho

Flynn Ryder:

Joe Kerry

Jordan Fisher

Chord Overstreet

Mother Gothel:

Audra McDonald

Kathryn Hahn

Christine Baranski

I'll post when the first chapter is out and I'll post it on ao3 when I can

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It’s fine if they include a character from another fandom they just have to have one Tangled character

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I’ll start by saying that I’ve been incredibly anti- all live action remakes from Disney with the few rare exceptions of Cruella and Sorcerer’s Apprentice.

So. Now that it’s confirmed that the live action is underway, i wanted to share my thoughts on who i think could play our beloved characters in the live action, knowing that it’s unfortunately happening whether we like it or not.

Keeping it friendly, here are my thoughts:

Rapunzel- I think Raegan Revord may be a good fit. She’d be just about the same age as the character while filming, the question is if she can sing. I’d also be supportive of Meg Donnelly. I tend to not want Sabrina Carpenter or Florence Pugh because I think they’d have a harder time playing that age, and Sabrina may be a bit difficult to see as anyone else but herself at this point.

Flynn/Eugene - yeah this one’s tough for me. What are your thoughts? Knowing there’s a bit of an age gap between the two characters makes Eugene a tough role to make work. I could see Jacob Elordi, Tanner Buchanan or maybe age the character down to make him more on par with rapunzel if needed depending on the actress you pick.

Gothel - Kathryn Hahn can sing and be absolutely menacing when needed. She’s a natural pick for Mother Gothel.

The king and queen - I saw someone else’s fan cast say they would like to see Mandy Moore and Zachary Levi as the king and queen. I think that would be cool!

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Cap with Cass and Cass’ baby daughter, Scarlett (my OC).

Something looks off with Cass’ hair in this picture and I can’t figure out what it is. Maybe it’s not full enough?

Just got this hoodie as a Christmas present

This should be hard because I am looking for one very specific answer.

The answer is:

!that their initial appearance at the start of the movie is more well known, and sometimes more popular than their appearance by the end of the movie. For the beast, that is the beast form and for Rapunzel that is her long hair. Of course, Rapunzel’s brown hair is often way more liked but it is still a similarity.!<

Anyone else see Wicked and get major Flynn vibes from the prince? He practically gives her the smolder after running her over with his horse!!

I am going to be deleting this soon as I've been getting excessive hate for it and I need a mental break from y'all

Ok ok I wanna start by saying that it is wrong to go hating on people. However if you hate on me I WILL defend myself...

1 I DON'T ship varigo. The creator of hugo has done questionable things and I can't in good conscience support their rejected idea (but I don't hate hugo so chill)

2 yes I'm a varian fan girl and I support OC x canon and self shipping and I do it myself

3 the person on here who is a major Cassandra simp isn't doing anything wrong so don't hate on them

4 if you have different opinions then me that's fine but will not talorate hate

5 if you support shipping varigo (even though varian is 16 CANONLY and hugo is an adult) then you can't complain when people ship adult varian and cass...

6 i don't ship varian and cass. I just personally don't support the Idea. However Varian's puppy crush on her is adorable 🥰

7 if anyone has similar views to me please let me know because I genuinely feel alone

8 Cassandra is a wonderful character and y'all gotta stop hating her