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/r/Frozen is the subreddit for Disney's Frozen, its sequel Frozen 2, the short film Frozen Fever, the holiday featurette Olaf's Frozen Adventure and all other associated sequels and spinoffs.
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My beautiful queen, thank you for always being my inspiration to love myself, and help me in my difficult moments.
Today, the 21st December 2024, marks the 180th anniversary of the first publication of Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tale The Snow Queen, a story of good vs evil, a struggle between humans and nature, a timeless tale full of wonders from a child's imagination, and a meaningful message being to keep a childlike heart.
The story primarily follows Gerda, unusually the heroine of the story, who sets off on a long journey to save her damsel in distress boyfriend Kai from the grips of the story's main villain The Snow Queen, a supernatural entity believed to be in control of the winter season and all wintry weather phenomenons. In spite of daunting challenges that halted her journey one way or another (or even ending it outright), Gerda's kind, innocent and persisting endurance kept her moving towards the goal of saving Kai, which she ultimately succeeded by melting his frozen heart, defeating hate with its eternal equal, Love.
Andersen's fairy tale was popular around the world and Gerda's journey was inspiring, 93 years later in late 1937, Walt Disney would attempt to make an adaptation of the story, but the length of this adaptation's development would outlive (and outlast) the length of his own life, as it was shown to be particularly difficult to convert the Snow Queen into a relatable character. This problem plagued the movie's development for 76 years, with 12 to 17 years actually being development years while the remaining years are when it's concealed away in deep inside Disney.
Finally in 2013, the world was introduced to Anna, the heroine of Walt Disney Animation Studios' Snow Queen adaptation movie Frozen, who sets off on her own journey to find her estranged sister the Snow Queen, who was named Elsa and who accidentally trapped their kingdom in an eternal winter with her icy powers. Disney finally managed to make the adaptation through two breakthroughs, the Gerda and Snow Queen characters becoming sisters and the introduction of the most famous Disney song of all time, Let It Go. The story was dark and depressing, with many twists and closecalls along the way, but was ultimately resolved with Sisterly Love.
Frozen owns its existence to The Snow Queen, with both being timeless classics, and today, this anniversary is a celebration of our beloved characters.
So I think Frozen 3 has a lot going for it. Both it, and Frozen 4 have to serve as a satisfying conclusion to the Frozen series, it has to answer the questions at D23 (or at least most of them), and has to return to what made the series special, which is the themes of family and Sisterhood.
Alot of weight it must carry, and that's what I attempted to do in this pitch/prediction/outline. Yeah, I wanted to write a pitch for Frozen 3 for a very long time, because I genuinely want to give this film the benefit of the doubt, as I believe it could have a chance of being good, given the Jen Lee is giving her full time and attention to it, and the 2027 release date should give them more then enough time to work on the story. That being said, it got too big for just a simple post, and I didn't have time to write a whole script. So instead, I decided to write this outline for what I think the film should look like. Taking some of my own ideas, combined with what we know so far.
Before you do read it, well, first of all, let me know of the link works or not, and secondly, there is some controversial stuff I do in here, so, just go with me on it, alright. Anyways, here's the link to it here, and I hope you enjoy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KbktA9t21KhV_Z7XybbAPqho1g8A_c6tbUrgR2E821A/edit?usp=drivesdk
Does anyone have any? Not fanfics where they return from their voyage after being presumed dead, but fanfics where their voyage was fine in the first place. It's a fun plot bunny, but I've seen it rarely done.
My favorite is "Darkness Burning" by gethsemane342. It's a short, three chapter hurt/comfort fic where the crux of the plot is that Elsa and Anna's parents returned home safely. Warning for depression and suicide attempts.
Now, I love all Frozen content and if they are the only choices to watch daily, I'm all for it.
But, is it just me? Or I can watch Frozen 1, Fever and OFA but I am so hesitant to watch Frozen 2.
Reason being is that Frozen 2 is a deep movie and there are many scenes that can make you cry. I don't want to keep crying my eyes out everytime I watch Frozen 2 but I really want to watch it. Is there anybody else that feels the same way?
In 2016, there was a gazette in Frozen Ever After in EPCOT, and then we found out that Hans, after being hit by Elsa's giant snowball in Frozen Fever, was actually and probably saved by someone, as logically gazette suggests.... because in this gazette we have information that Hans's accident was documented in a nearby newspaper, but actually, if we look closer, there is an information that "the first hand eye witness" documented the accident with "artist rendering" in the newspaper... so, I think that the person who was the first hand eye witness, was not only that close to Hans to save him in time, which resolves the mystery why Hans, in World of Frozen gazette, is mentioned to be injured but alive, and not being killed by the snowball, but also gives us a clue that this person can work in the newspaper in the Southern Isles.... and we never found out who this person was, but as a Hans fan, I'm grateful she/he saved the bastard prince despite his crimes and disgracement lol ^^
It's going to be in the New York area for the next few weeks and was wondering if it's good. I don't expect it to be anywhere near as good as the musical but I hope it's at least decent.
People were looking for this so why not post the entire picture!
Given the fact that both of their Italian voice actors are from Naples, this seems kinda fitting.
(Yes, Elsa seems the kind of person who eats pizza with fork and knife)
I wanted to make a post like this for a while now. I've already made one where I rant about the way the creators handled Elsa's character in the sequel but now I want to focus on the message that comes out from this whole thing, which is not as positive or liberatory as many would like to think. Oh and by the way, this is my opinion and it doesn't mean I don't love these films.
At the end of the film, Elsa abdicates, Anna becomes queen and Elsa goes to live in a magical forest with indigenous people and magical spirits, who will help her learn more about her magical powers. She only comes back to Arendel for family game nights. This seems like a case of convenient wishful thinking: the “other” has gone away to a place that must be surely good for them and still visits occasionally so that we don’t have to worry too much. But I would like to ask, is this the kind of happy ending we would want for people with differences in our society?
This isn't necessarily an issue only in the sequel. In the first film, Elsa went from physically being hidden away in the royal castle, forced to hide her abilities from all including her sister Anna, to being traumatically outed as "other”, and eventually settling down to a life which nevertheless continued to force her to be in constant control of herself. While the story raises hopes for those of us who are unusual or different, Elsa by the end had to try to soften this otherness in order to fit in with the norms of society. We can see that that's not something easy for her and so in comes the sequel.
The sequel does a good job with addressing Elsa's issue with fitting in but the solution it gives is even more backwards. Ultimately, what the film teaches us is that while otherness and difference exist in our society, those others have to fit in with the normate in order to be accepted. If they cannot, they are expected to fade away into the background, as Elsa does. The film ends up being mostly tragic rather than happy for that reason. It never acknowledges the needs of these othered people or the fact that most of them are disadvantaged rather than empowered by their otherness, or the burdens they carry in order to fit in. The direction should have been that of unconditional acceptance and Arendelle changing towards a place where the "οther" and the "normal" can coexist.
It might be acceptable for Elsa to provide light entertainment in the form of ice sculptures, but not to turn her powers into anything more serious than that. People who cannot or do not want to conform to this strong demand for normativity are pushed to the fringes of society, according to Frozen 2. I don’t think we should believe that this kind of message is good or respectful. After all, Disney is a major corporation and their message will ultimately be dictated by what is expected by society. In order to sell their films and merchandise, they cannot alienate their audience, especially not the adults who take their kids to watch them.
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So I've seen alot of people predicting online that Anna and Kristoff will have a child in Frozen 3, due to the D23 presentation asking if Anna and Kristoff want a kid. Me personally, I don't think they should have a child in Frozen 3. I could see them having a kid in the epilogue of the fourth film, but I don't think they should have one by the time we reach the third one. Why? Well, for six solid reasons:
We haven't seen them even get married yet. So...yeah, that one speaks for itself.
The question was ask was "Do Anna and Kristoff want kids?" It didn't say "They will be having kids" there's a big difference. Now yes, I could see them wanting children be a plot point. In fact, I could even see that being somewhat of a conflict between Anna and Kristoff. With Anna wanting children kids while Kristoff wants them too but he doesn't want to bring a child into the type of life they live...that being the life of a royal (alternatively i could also see it being a conflict between the sisters as well, as I could see Anna wanting a child, but won't for the same reasons as Kristoff and blames Elsa and her choice to abdicate the throne for why she and Kristoff dont have one yet). But I don't think that means they'll have a child by the time we reach this movie.
It would be a really stupid to introduce a child of Anna and Kristoff, when there are still so many other things this and the other sequel will be focusing on. There's no time to introduce a child of Kristanna into the series just yet.
The concept art at D23 didn't show Anna with a child, which tells me they probably won't have one just yet.
Anna and Kristoff are more then likely not ready to have a child yet at all. As we don't know how long it will be inbetween movies, and they will probably be too busy ruling the kingdom right now and getting everything ready for there wedding to make time for one.
I don't really think Anna and Kristoff are that good of a match. Even in the first film. Now, I didn't hate there dynamic in the first film, in fact, I absolutely loved it and how they played off of one another's strengths and weaknesses, but there was nothing about it that ever screamed "Romance" too me. Controversial take, but, if it wasn't for the fact that he turned out to be a complete scumbag, I actually think Anna has more chemistry with Hans then she does Kristoff. But I digress. Then the second one basically flanderized them both and there relationship so hard, to the point where if it were fully up to me, I personally would have Anna and Kristoff get divorced or at least go through some sort of separation period in the third film. I know this won't happen, but, this is just what I would do, because I feel like Anna just treated Kristoff badly in the second film, and Kristoff wasn't really any better, so, I just don't see them as compatible enough to have a child. But that's just me.
Personally, for these reasons, I just don't think Anna and Kristoff should have a child in Frozen 3. Maybe in F4, but definitely not F3.
What are chances that the figure from original concepts of Frozen II could the be the mysterious shadow seen in Brittney Lee’s Frozen III concept art just drawn in a different way? I don’t know but for some reason it looks like a viking due to what they’re wearing and the type of staff used as well, but what do you think? Feel free to leave your thoughts below :)
Message: I’ve noticed a Frozen III poster I made and posted on this Reddit not too long ago appear on some Tumblr pages without giving me credit. I’m just writing this message to ask whoever are the users to please give credit next time and for everyone that would like to use it on their pages to do the same. Thank you and my apologies for this message.
You can give credit by using my Reddit user Rpineda081704 ;)
Greetings to the community. Someone will have this image complete and in quality. I would appreciate it very much. It's for a design project.
So we know in the beginning of the film, Hans is nice towards on an end he stabs her in the back. When watching the movie again, I noticed something before he tweets her back. Lee, someone mentions that if Anna dies, then he will be the ruler of Arondelle. My theory is that even though he wanted to get to the throne, he still somewhat cared about Anna. But the moment he realized he could have thrown if he let Anna die, He chose to be evil. I mean, think about it, when Anna was missing, he still tried to go look for her in front of her. She was OK. I could be wrong, then maybe he just wanted to look for her stuff. They could rule Arondelle together, but even then, he seemed so genuine until that man told him what could happen if he let Anna die.