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This sub is a dedicated place for reviewing on "What's going on" about Linux on Thinkpads, where you will see a broad collection of discussions, on-going projects, and a wiki knowledge base. This subreddit is also a sister sub of /r/LinuxOnThinkpads, where No cross-posting is allowed. All posts other than Announcements and Meta discussions from our connected sibling subs will be automatically forwarded here. If you are a content creator or a wiki page writer, please help post more Linux On Thinkpad related content available on the internet; if you are a software developer, please find out through this sub on what Thinkpad and Linux users have problem with and solve them in your next software release; if you have some experience of running Linux on a Thinkpad, please help spread the word to any subreddits or forums that are related to the ecosystem. We hope through our efforts without a border, the ecosystem of running Linux distros on Thinkpads will be dramatically improved as new distros and models come out over time!

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Linux Mint vs Fedora ( both latest stable release)

Linux Mint vs Fedora ( both latest stable release)

I have a thinkpad E14 ig it would be best to ask here.

So I am confused between fedora 40 and linux mint latest release, my main concern will be I want better battery life, and I have w11 on dual also, battery life sucks (3-4 hrs) and I do little ML, webdev and coding more in general, and youtubeeeeee rest of the time.

Just need you guys 2 cents and recommendations.

I appreciate it, also like mint used to have old kernels but 22 one ships with 6.8 ig, I dont if from next release again they will stick to like 6.8 or lastest stable one like they did now. thats a concern Since I develop apps, I would appreciate if I have some up to date thingsss.

Thank you !!!

7 Comments
2024/10/14
07:36 UTC

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Do you suggest me to install linux on my thinkpad p14s,

i want to install linux but i am scared that it wont work well because its a newer version released on 2022. So is linux a great option.

8 Comments
2024/10/13
11:53 UTC

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x320 vs t430

ThinkPad x320 for 78$, t430 for 86$

Same specifications i5 gen3 ram 4 hard 320

For Linux and ethical hacking stuff

2 Comments
2024/10/09
17:57 UTC

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help noobie

i want to buy thinkpad and install linux on it...16ram and what processor would you recommend? i practice backend and frontend nothing wild...vscode google and spotify thats it...maybe indie game....but i want to use hyprland tiling wm...so do i need thinkpad with never graphics because of xwayland or? i dont know how it works....if you could give me some tips i would be thankfull!

4 Comments
2024/10/08
10:52 UTC

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Does a T440p with Nvidia 730M work well with Linux?

Most of the advice I got about running Linux on laptop is: stay away from Nvidia. Even Torvalds himself gave Nvidia the bird back in 2012. The local pawnshop sells a refurbished T440p with very nice FHD screen. The problem is it runs Nvidia 730M.

How is your experience of Linux on this laptop? It is an older model, so as of 2024 and linux kernel 6.10, are there still any hiccups? The important features I am looking for are: any screen flickerings, suspend and hibernation, fan noise and temperature.

Thanks

11 Comments
2024/10/04
09:31 UTC

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thinkpad t470 did not live up to (THINKPAD) name atleast for me

i had a thinkpad t470 i5 7300u vpro i upgraded it to 16gb ram and kingstone nvme. but it was a mess in linux(and i tried every linux distro possible debian , fedora arch ) as well as windows .Video streaming and app opening was soo bugged that i had to sell it at a very low price .i loved it while it lasted. if you guys know anything about this do let me know. please tell me if anyone of the current t470 users are facing this type of issue.

12 Comments
2024/10/03
09:23 UTC

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Just installed Arch on my T460

4 Comments
2024/09/30
18:47 UTC

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Lenovo P1 Gen 4i - Debian 12: help wtih Fn keys?

Hi, looking for a help to figure out the driver support. I have installed latest bios and ran all available updates through fwupdmgr.

function keys don't work at all. I have checked bios options and have function keys enabled.

  • F1 to F4 : Volume mute/increase/decrease/mic

  • F5 & F6 : Screen brightness decrease / increase

OS: Debian Bookworm 12.7 / Openbox

Any thoughts ? Thanks in advance!

10 Comments
2024/09/26
03:11 UTC

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Report on using Debian on T14s AMD Gen 4

Hi all,

I received my brand new T14s (AMD Gen 4 with a Ryzen 5 PRO 7540U) last week. Before buying it I spent a lot of time gathering information to make sure I would not have issues using Debian with it, so I thought that this small report may help others in the future.

So first I installed Debian 12 (current stable). I knew from my previous searches that the kernel shipped with it (6.1) would be too old for this laptop, so I immediately enabled backports and installed the bpo kernel (6.10).

I hoped I could get away with it but unfortunately there were still a few issues I could not fix: Suspend was especially not reliable (the laptop would not suspend, would resume for no reason, Wayland would sometimes crash on resume) and it's a feature I use all the time, CPU temperature was almost always around 45°C even when idle, I could not read any YouTube video in Firefox even though hardware acceleration was seemingly enabled...

So I decided to switch to Trixie (current testing) and that fixed almost all my issues. There were two remaining issues I could fix thanks to the always useful ArchWiki :

Laptop would resume on plugging/unplugging the AC adapter

This seems to be caused by the so-called s2idle sleep state, which can be interrupted by the embedded controller for various reasons. I solved this by passing acpi.no_ec_wakeup=1to the kernel. This is done by editing GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULTin /etc/default/grub and then executing update-grub.

After a reboot, /sys/module/acpi/parameters/ec_no_wakeup should be 'Y'. I haven't found any downside to this for the moment, I can still resume by opening the lid or pressing the power button.

Broadband modem would not connect

This is because the modem is locked by a software procedure required by the FCC. ModemManager in Trixie ships the scripts to unlock the modem (Quectel EM05-G) but the user has to manually enable it.

This is done by symlinking the script in the /etc/ModemManager/fcc.unlock.d directory:

cd /etc/ModemManager/fcc-unlock.d && ln -s /usr/share/ModemManager/fcc-unlock.available.d/2c7c:030a

2c7c:030a is the ID of the modem.

Now AFAICT everything runs fine and I'm quite happy with my new Thinkpad. As I write this in Firefox, CPU temperature is around 34°C. An overnight suspend of 8 hours resulted in a tiny 2% of battery used.

I hope this report can help other users at some point.

5 Comments
2024/09/23
08:49 UTC

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Non-Lenovo battery stopped working

I bought a new non-Lenovo battery for my T510; it was working fine for a few days but now it’s not recognized. My OS is Ubuntu 22.04.

Any ideas on how to fix it? The fix I’ve found online is for Windows (which is to delete the acpi).

0 Comments
2024/09/21
22:30 UTC

0

cant install Distros except LXLE

I am running an Thinkpad L412. Currently with LXLE. But recently it started to create problems.
So i wanted to switch to a different distro but noticed i was only able to boot to LXLE in the installation process. On all other Distros i tested (MX-Linux, linux-lite, lubuntu) i was able to boot to grub but after selecting the installation process, or live boot, i only got a blank screen with a blinking cursor in the top right corner.

It seems rather strange to me that i have no problems with the installation of LXLE but other distros cant even start to boot.
Are there any settings i could check in the bios or usb creation process (I often read that newer versions of linux have problems when there is no UEFI)?

Thank you in advance

4 Comments
2024/09/20
23:47 UTC

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Is X220 still able to handle real work in 2024?

I never have an X220 or any thinkpads with the traditional keyboards. Found a good one in near mint condition (I checked the laptop out onsite) with no OS so I'd like to see if it is possible to daily drive it. Beside the nice keyboard and repairability, can the CPU handle modern tasks?

Let's ignore the memes, in reality, is this machine able to do normal tasks in 2024 or is it struggling? By "normal tasks", I meant: web browsing, videos, pictures, documents writing, codings.

For the coding part, is a 2 core CPU able to handle basic compiling? For things that are more intensive, I use the server at our uni to run instead. I'm talking about when apps need you to compile manually.

What about the hard drive's durability? I know we can just swap the HDD and use a modern M.2 NVME, but is there a limitation?

Or it is just a hobbyist machine and only for show?

22 Comments
2024/09/18
15:57 UTC

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Z13 Gen 1: TLP vs PPD?

Hi all,

I recently purchased a ThinkPad Z13 Gen 1 with a Ryzen 7 6850U.

Was just wondering whether TLP or PPD would give me better battery life? I'm running the latest version of Fedora with Gnome. I have seen many conflicting answers online.

I will prevent my battery from charging above 80% regardless.

Not interested in auto-cpufreq.

Cheers :)

1 Comment
2024/09/17
11:19 UTC

3

Thinkpad keyboard backlight controller

0 Comments
2024/09/15
09:22 UTC

1

HELP !! Plugged in headphones can either be at maximum volume or mute

0 Comments
2024/09/14
23:29 UTC

10

Trying to figure out what this means?

I don't know why this pops up every time I get my computer out of sleep mode. My Bluetooth connection still works for some reason. I can use my headphones. What does this mean? How can I get rid of this error code?

I am using a Thinkpad 480 with standard Ubuntu as the OS.

3 Comments
2024/09/14
21:09 UTC

3

T480 touchpad replacement not working correctly on Linux

4 Comments
2024/09/14
07:19 UTC

2

Anybody running Linux on an L13 Yoga lately?

How does Linux work on it? I've seen them sold used for cheap, and I want to pick one up and put Linux Mint on it. Hesitant because I've read on some kind of old posts that Linux doesn't detect when the laptop goes into tablet mode. Supposedly this feature only works on the X series. Is it too heavy to use as a tablet while in bed?

11 Comments
2024/09/10
19:40 UTC

3

MS Excel

So I have to attend to an Excel course and i'm debating whether to install windows or find a way to run excel trough popOS. What do you think is the best option? (T480s)

5 Comments
2024/09/09
10:38 UTC

0

Is really Thinkpad compatibility with Linux?

I think many of people exaggerated opinion about compatibility Thinkpads with Linux. They're not more supportive for Linux users than others series of laptops, models. I don't have right?

10 Comments
2024/09/08
22:27 UTC

1

Whitelisted Bluetooth Options for x230 on Ubuntu

0 Comments
2024/09/08
17:12 UTC

1

Whitelisted Bluetooth Options for x230 on Ubuntu

2 Comments
2024/09/08
17:12 UTC

1

Awful trackpad experience

Hey, just did a fresh install of arch Linux W/ Hyprland on a T460s.

Trackpad is just super inconsistent, choppy, and just overall sucky!

I tried looking around the Hyprland wiki and searching google for similar trackpad issues, but couldn’t find any results.

Any suggestion, or clarification needed. LMK!

3 Comments
2024/09/06
07:42 UTC

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Boot from USB on T14S Gen 3

Recently bought used thinkpad T14S Gen 3 and trying to install linux, however nothing happens when I try to boot from my flash drive (it's okay, I've tested on another device).

The BIOS "Setup" menu is accesible with empty password field, however i can change very small amount of things, secure boot too.

What am I supposed to do in this situation?

Also there is a lot of forbidden keys... Am I supposed to restore factory defaults?

6 Comments
2024/09/02
14:09 UTC

11

Battery life on Ubuntu vs Fedora

I have a Thinkpad T480 running Fedora and get 3-4 hours of battery life, has anyone tried getting better battery life with Ubuntu or Linux Mint?

12 Comments
2024/08/31
21:48 UTC

3

any reccomended packages/installs for a thinkpad T460s running endeavour OS?

as the title says, what should i download or install? anything necessary like drivers?

2 Comments
2024/08/21
14:56 UTC

7

Thinkpad x200t as Dedicated Writing Tablet

I have a couple of Thinkpad x200t's I got from my college and was trying to think of how they'd actually be useful for me. I already have a framework 13 so I don't have any need for another laptop. I have not used them much at all, but they seem like neat little devices. I thought I might be able to turn one into a writing tablet by flashing something like the remarkableOS onto it. I could not find anything online about doing such a thing though, and not sure if the hardware is suitable for low latency writing. Anybody have any ideas or insight?

6 Comments
2024/08/19
00:33 UTC

5

Which Distribution ThinkPad t560p

Hello :)

So I will be starting a new job in a month and my old job provided me with a laptop that I could also use as my private PC, since I'm pretty broke and the laptop will be returned to my former employer I bought a ThinkPad t560p for personal use.

I bought it used (refurbished with 1 year of warranty) for 130€ (I live in germany).

"Lenovo ThinkPad T460p Laptop 14 Zoll (Inch), Intel i5-6300HQ 2.3GHz, 16GB PC3, 256GB SSD, Webcam, Full-HD, Win 11 Pro"

I was always interested in computers, build a few myself and I like to tinker around with them (more then often break stuff but I guess that's how tinkering works? :) ).

Since I'm sick of windows I would like to install Linux.

I already installed and used Linux mint on an old PC and I really liked it but the question now is what distribution should I use for the ThinkPad?

My main tasks are just browsing the web, watching videos, getting a bit into coding hobbywise and maybe using freeCAD a bit.

I'm also a bit into gaming but I will use geforceNow for it (tried it before and I'm pretty happy with it).

I'm pretty new to the Linux community and right now it seems most people with ThinkPad use Arch?

So I thought it would be fun to use Arch as my daily driver and if I break it somehow or I just don't have the time to fix any problem I would also use a portable Ubuntu/mint distribution on a USB as a backup.

Please keep in mind that I don't really need to work on my new laptop. All my important data is saved on a USB stick and also in a cloud. Anything else that is important I can do on my phone.

So this will be more of a fun project to learn some linux/how a computer and software works.

Are there any reasons why I shouldn't use Arch (or any other "non out of the box" distro)?

Are there any tips or resources that you would recommend to me?

5 Comments
2024/08/18
10:08 UTC

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