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/r/Intel is the community-run subreddit to talk about anything related to Intel Corporation and it's products. Intel's CPUs (i5, i7, i9, etc.), Graphics (ARC, Xe, UHD), Networking, OneAPI, XeSS, and all other Intel-related topics are discussed here.

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Intel Insider Community


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Rule 1: Be civil and follow Reddiquette. Uncivil language, slurs, and insults will result in a ban. This includes comments such as "retard", "shill", "moron", and so on.

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Rule 3 : For purchasing advice, please visit /r/buildapc. For technical support, please see the pinned megathread or visit /r/techsupport.

Rule 4: All posts must be related to news, reviews, and high quality discussion of Intel or Intel products. No religion/politics unless it is directly related to Intel Corporation. Content that only mentions Intel in passing or in an off-hand reference does not qualify. Non-Intel products, for example a CPU Cooler, must be tested with Intel hardware to be considered relevant.

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Rule 6: If someone posts a build photo of their Intel setup, it's simply rude and inconsiderate to tell them that they made a bad decision or to otherwise insult them. You're free to post comments critical of Intel products in any other threads.


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What’s the true successor’s name to the Intel Core Ultra 200V LNL name wise?

For anyone attentive to the current rumor mill, I had thought Panther Lake would’ve been 300V, but now apparently the entire PTL lineup is H/U again, so did they scrap the 300V or is that one going to be called Nova Lake?

2 Comments
2024/05/10
23:34 UTC

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i9-14900k and my Intel RMA experience

I've been seeing a lot of posts about people's experiences with the i9-14900k's and Intel's overall RMA experience since these chips seem to require quite a few of them, so I thought I would post my own experience for any potential buyers.

I got my 14900k back in December as a promotional bundle item (mobo + CPU + RAM) from Microcenter, and it was working pretty well until it started to progressively fail in mid February. During CPU intensive tasks (rendering video, any sort of stress test and eventually even playing some video games) my computer would crash and shut down regularly. When I ran the stress tests in Intel's extreme tuning utility, the CPU was constantly being thermal throttled, despite stock settings and an NH-D15 heatsink.

In any case, it was too late to return it to Microcenter since it had been more than 1 month so I made a ticket with Intel's support team. They were pretty quick in getting back to me initially, and a week or so later I had a call with one of their technicians. We ran through a bunch of troubleshooting steps (prior to the call I had already reseated the CPU twice, reapplied thermal paste etc) and he determined that the CPU itself was faulty, so I was eligible for an RMA.

I was told that I can either wait 3-6 months for a replacement CPU (or longer...) directly from Intel, or I can accept a cash refund which they could send to me in a few days to rebuy the CPU myself. The only issue is that the promotional pricing from the CPU/mobo/RAM bundle that I originally bought was no longer available, and buying a brand new 14900k would cost about $100 more. I talked to their service rep about it on the phone and he said that Intel would try to cover it.

Intel then took about 1 month to come to a conclusion on this, and the rep I was in contact with would simply not respond to me for days unless I prompted him to. I even had to call their service rep line to talk to a DIFFERENT representative who got in contact with him, and only then he provided me an update on my case status. In addition, I had to submit the same information several times to the same rep.

Well, in the end they refused to. I know that technically they are right, Intel only needs to reimburse me for the total cost of the CPU present on the invoice I had from Microcenter. But by putting me in a position where I need to wait 3 or more months for a warranty replacement or accept a refund for less money than it would cost to rebuy the CPU itself, it seemed like I was forced to pay $100 for an "expedited" warranty service.

After this experience, I really regret choosing Intel as my CPU for this build. The new 14900k I have works just fine, and I have a 360mm AIO for it now and have ensured that the power limit is throttled to 253W (Intel's designed max) since this one came with an unlocked power limit for whatever reason. But if I were to ever have to issue another warranty claim for this CPU again, which is definitely possible considering the amount of issues this generation has had, I'm not looking forward to seeing what will happen next time.

Maybe I just got a bad rep as other people seem to have vastly different experiences than mine, but because of this I will not be choosing Intel again for any new build I'll be making.

67 Comments
2024/05/10
01:16 UTC

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Rambling about the new Intel 13th/14th gen Intel recommended default settings

68 Comments
2024/05/09
22:03 UTC

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Wafer Fab operator job

On indeed there is job posting for Wafer Fab operator. Says there is lots of walking pushing carts around?

Anyone know what they do?

5 Comments
2024/05/08
23:38 UTC

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Intel SSE Co-op Interview

Hello there, I was wondering if any of you have previously interviewed for a Systems Simulation Engineering Co-op at Intel Vancouver. I have an interview coming up and would love to know the best way to prepare. I consider myself pretty good in DSA, but I am not exactly sure if that's going to be the theme of the interview. I have heard that in the ASIC implementation co-op interviews Verilog questions were asked (I haven't used Verilog), however I am not sure if that is also the case for the Systems Simulation Engineering co-op.

If any one of you has previously interviewed for the System Simulation Engineering co-op at Intel please do guide me on how to prepare, thank you very much :)

4 Comments
2024/05/08
01:55 UTC

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Do Cascade Lake W Xeon processors really have half the float performance of equivalent Skylake W Xeon processors?

I am putting together a used workstation from old parts and I noticed a document on intel's website called "APP Metrics for Intel® Microprocessors".

It lists APP and gigaflops for all current and past intel processors.

According to wikipedia: "Adjusted Peak Performance (APP) is a metric introduced by the U.S. Department of Commerce's Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) to more accurately predict the suitability of a computing system to complex computational problems, specifically those used in simulating nuclear weapons. This is used to determine the export limitations placed on certain computer systems under the Export Administration Regulations 15 CFR."

But an odd thing is that Cascade Lake W Xeon processors all have half the gigaflops and APP of their Skylake equivalents for instance the W-2235 vs. the W-2135 even though according to the spec sheet, they both have 2 of AVX-512 FMA Units the same number of cores and it sits in the same socket.

The only listed differences are that the w-2235 has 100 mhz faster clock speed, it has Deep Learning Boost, it has slightly faster memory and it has specter and meltdown mitigations.

Yet the W-2135 lists 556.8 gigaflops and 0.16704 APP

while the W-2235 lists 288 gigaflops and 0.0864 APP

And they're all like that. Yet on the used market a W-2135 goes for $20 while a W-2235 goes for $150

Did Xeons really lose half their speed at calculating with Cascade Lake or did Intel just tell the government that?

7 Comments
2024/05/06
18:02 UTC

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I9-13900H vs Ultra 7 155H

Which is better in terms of efficiency?

And which is better in terms of performance?

If the 13900H is better, will the Ultra 7 155H be better in the long run with new driver updates?

27 Comments
2024/05/06
15:10 UTC

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INtel i9 14900KF....a beast

Im coming from a Xeon from 2016. The i9 is quite a leap! First time I dont see the Windows logo during the boot.

It is overclocked @ 6Ghz and for the first month i didnt know how to tame the beast. I would say it was unstable. Avid Media Composer previews were really smooth. Renders were really fast.

On idle, temperature is really low. Ranging from 29°C to 32°C (Fan at 400rpm) with only a 5 pipes heatsink on which I swithed the original fan for an Arctic P12 Max (3000rpm)

After Effect previews were fast but some of my files use a lot of fractals. Temp was suddendly jumping to 88°C. Pluggins like BCC continuum suite, Red Giant and Universe suite were crashing when on the Turbo mode. No crash without pluggins or in Eco mode.

At this point i still didnt do a benchmark which would have certainly damaged my CPU

I have a kit 4x16 Gb of Crucial Pro DDR5 5600Mts. They work best by 2, I heard but my task manager shows the right frequency so i believe there was a fix relative to the DIMM. Only thing is that the RAM get full at 98% on After Effect (even with a reserve of 10Gb for the system, it goes to 62 Gb when previewing)

My overall feeling was that this CPU was super performant but volative. Everything changed when I went into the BIOS and change few setting (as seen on picture: 400, 253, auto, 253). Basically by default, this CPU can draw up to 320W or more with 500Amps

A bit more sure about the temps, I did a Cinebench. CPU held the multicore test at a constant 88°C but at a lower frequency of 4.75Ghz in average instead of the full 6Ghz. With those scores, the i9-14900KS ranks first in the 32 cores category

After effect finally works with all pluggins using the full 6Ghz frequency
Everthing runs really smoother like that. As responsive as before and totally stable

IDK if its the board or the CPU but the audio is incredible. Amazing experience on all Adobe software

I recommend flashing your BIOS to the latest version

MB: Asus TUF Z690 PLUS WIFI
RAM: 64GB Crucial Pro DDR5 5600Mts
OS: M2 Gen 4 Crucial P5 plus 500GB
Storage: M2 Gen 4 Fikwot N950 4TB - 2x240GB SSD - 1x 250GB WD Velociraptor
GPU: Zotac RTX 3060 12GB
PSU: MSI MAG A850GL, 850W
Case: Nox Hummer Quantum

Cheers

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60 Comments
2024/05/05
19:52 UTC

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Meteor lake vs Zen 4 in terms of video decoding performance and efficiency

Hello,

I have a 7840u / 780m laptop and recently got a laptop with a 1370p / Intel Iris Xe for work.

I noticed while testing 4k video decoding the AMD laptop could decode 6 4k YouTube videos but with higher cpu utilization and power draw and the decoder utilization was hovering at 90-100%. Testing the same 4k videos the Intel laptop was able to decode 6 videos while each of the 2 decoders were at 25%.

Now to my question: Can someone tell (maybe from experience) if Intel has more potent video decoders than AMD?

I appreciate all input. Thank you.

15 Comments
2024/05/05
20:02 UTC

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Intel interview Process for System Software Development Engineer

I have an interview scheduled next week for a System Software Development Engineer position (US) which is a Senior Software Engineer role.

Could anyone tell me the interview process and how many interview rounds they might conduct?

What questions can i expect during the interview as it is an Experienced Position of 3+ years?

6 Comments
2024/05/05
23:08 UTC

39

Buldzoid - Shorter version of my EXPERIMENTAL FIX for intel 13/14th gen instability

22 Comments
2024/05/05
22:49 UTC

2

intel arc a750 triple setup

someone who knows how to adjust the monitor setup in the software for the Intel Arc A750

2 Comments
2024/05/04
12:31 UTC

41

[Hardware Canucks] Intel vs AMD Laptops in 2024 - What a Mess...

21 Comments
2024/04/30
20:36 UTC

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got bored, decided to tests older bios vs newer bios for gaming-13th gen

alright, like the title said. got bored and decided to test older bios vs new bios. here are my specs

13900k, RTX 3080, apex encore z790, 7600 g.skill ram, using corsair h150i link 360 AIO cooler

things to keep in mind, temperature of the room and liquid temp of AIO were the same for both bios/tests so no thermal throttling occurred to lower scores in Cinebench. highest temp was 92 on a core in both tests. NO POWER LIMITS/STOCK SETTINGS. also fan speed for GPU was the same to not have a difference in temperature/boosting behavior.

to get the full performance of the older bios I flashed back the intel ME firmware to match the version the bios needed to ensure the best performance of the bios.

BIOS 506(Intel ME version 16.1.30.2264)

Cinebench

3d Mark Time Spy

BIOS 904 (intel ME version 16.1.30.2307)

Cinebench

3d Mark Time Spy

because the apex encore is a newer refresh board there is no bios/intel ME that i could test that is older than that.

people might see the difference in time spy 3d mark as low but it is actually really hard to gain points in time spy. margin of error is 1-4 points difference. there is a very measurable gain in performance by updating bios/intel ME

on a side note i ran Cinebench in its default settings (below normal priority) for both bios, and i tried to do whatever it took to get the bios 506 Cinebench score higher but even with changing to Realtime priority, ending more background tasks, disabling windows security. FOR THE LIFE OF ME i could not get get 41k. running Cinebench once without doing all that broke 41k on 904

bios 8xx and 9xx (18xx and 19xx on non refresh boards) have the 11F CPU microcode and that seemed to gain performance.

tl;dr you are actually losing out on some free performance by staying on an older bios.

edit: actually beat the high score with 904 https://imgur.com/a/mbxXf3e

20 Comments
2024/04/30
04:16 UTC

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Almost 20k points with a 12600k

5.2 on pcores and 4.3 on ecores with an h150i Elite Capellix XT. I swapped the AF120s for Phanteks D30s because they have higher static pressure and they link together. Voltage is 1.385. What's the average and what's the record? Does anyone know? Is this a silicone lottery situation or is this a typical score?

70 Comments
2024/04/29
16:42 UTC

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Intel Core Ultra "Meteor Lake" Performance Improves with Linux Kernel 6.9

1 Comment
2024/04/29
18:08 UTC

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