Hello everyone! I’ve recently been dipping my toes into various forms of divination. I started astragalomancy a while ago and have been enjoying it, but I also wanted to try my hand at a geomantic reading. This is my first reading and I’d like some help interpreting it. The reading in question has to do with my career path, and specifically if I should stick it out at my current job, or keep hunting for a new one elsewhere.

For additional context, a couple weeks ago I did some career-related astragalomancy readings for myself and I noticed a few overarching themes: lots of external factors and changes outside of my control as the primary challenges, and lots of strong emotions surrounding those external factors. However, the constants I noticed across these readings boiled down to relying on internal direction / sense of self, my own strength and peace, resilience, and celebrating my own accomplishments.

While I’m no geomancy expert, I think the two negatively aligned characters of Amissio and Rubeus followed by two very positive characters was interesting. Lots of ups and downs through the entire course of the reading. With carcer as my judge and fortuna major as my witness, that makes it sound like leaving my job (provided I can land a new one that’s to my liking) will be incredibly favorable and have long-term stability, despite being racked with tumultuous challenges and what looks like a career rollercoaster? Also, I had no idea about the querent settings on the site, so I didn't change them. If I need to adjust, let me know.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

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Although I prefer the longer method of the Sand Box or anything that is so complex that it is impossible for me to 'stack the deck', something I want a really quick tetragram.

I saw a reference to the St Michaels Chain that looked interesting. It is made from 4 st michaels medallions purchased from a catholic gift shop and adds a sword at one end.

As I am not christian, but Gardnerian Wiccan, the chain will not meet my spirituality but looks interesting so I made two 'Michaels Chains' which seem to do the job. I replaces the sword with a key and on one chain, I used one or two pips in the proper colors. On the other chain, i used the proper elemental triangles with pips and colors.

Has anoyone used the Michaels chain or made a similar one? How did it work for you?

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My Geomancy Kit

So its been probably two years since I lost a pipe. Perhaps I broke it and forgot, or stashed it and forgot where. I searched extensively for it multiple times a year ago with no luck. I read Greers book, and have been reading through posts on here. While im not confident on quite a bit (I have issues remembering house uses and not sure I understand aspects properly), I have done a handful of readings with relative success so far. This is my first lost object reading.

I chose house 9 to be the quesited because of "dream, religon, space travel", however Sam Block says to disgregard this and simply use house 2 for lost personal objects. I choose to follow Greers advice as it seems more thorough and Ive followed him so far in this journey.

House 9 is Fortuna Minor saying that the object, person, or animal has only been overlooked and will turn up promptly if the querent looks for it more carefully. But like I said Ive looked extensively multiple times and have not found it .

I could be mistaken and its actually " Sixth house: Tools of all kinds, all tame animals too small to ride, medicines, and anything related to health care. " But personally I don't regard it as medicine but more of a spiritual endeavor.

Or Laetitia Southwest/wet places based on Sam Block saying to use the second house.

Any thoughts regarding which houses I should use and also readings as to where I should look or if it is non-recoverable would be appreciated. Thanks

Hello everyone, this have had happened to me before. When making a question the answer was the same witnesses that will give you Populus as the judge. That time I interpreted as a big no, and a situation that will not change. This time the question is different, the first time was a romantic question for a friend, this time the question are about a friend and if he should be trusted. Questions Is M trustworthy? https://georatio.com/?c=fbed&t=1&d=7&s=2&q= Did M make the mistake? https://georatio.com/?c=fa63&t=1&d=7&s=2&q= The mistake cost us a sale and he denied it was him. But he is making all kind of weird explanations. The double witnesses thing is so confusing! Thanks for your help!

More than often the charts we discuss here are not resolved. As in they are mostly invitations for second opinions. They present a great opportunity for any student of the art. Giving them an opportunity to throw in their one buck, for what it is worth. Maybe you saw a company that others overlooked, or it could be that you thought a totally different house made sense in context of the question. The list goes on, people here have shown (and taught) me some clever uses of aspects, triads, special configurations like beseigment and fortification. Really, for anyone who don't have a teacher in person to help them along the journey, this small group is nothing less of one. Also we have here teachers themselves too, JMG, author of the most popular title; Sam, writer of 'the' blog on the topic; KidCuby, who are just so good at divination not just with geomancy but with other disciplines as well. And many many others. So a big thanks to ye all!

While I love a good unresolved chart ( like that one from u/complexluminary on the missing child; it was a roller-coster) to churn my brain and intuition, they usually stay that way - unresolved. Meaning, you don't get to know what came out of it after all the dust settles. This is where I missed when we use to have resolved charts for case study here. 'Back in the days' (edgy, I know. excuse me), we use to have this 'Case Study' series by u/kidcubby, where they would post resolved charts, with prompts that guide the reader to arrive at the interpretation. They were the best 'work book' for geomancy that I have seen.

Allow me to submit this request to you all, to please post your resolved charts (events predicted has come to pass) here (of-course only those that you are free to disclose of, as I understand many here are professionals). This would help immensely to create a new wave of learning.

Cheers to you all for keeping this going..

My sister once approached me asking if we can cast a chart to help locate a golden chain that was missing. This chain's ownership is a bit fuzzy. It kind of belonged to everyone in the family, no one claimed it theirs, if asked who's chain it was, the general conscience of the household was that "It is ours". The chain was seen last a couple of weeks back within the house before goes missing. As the member of the household who is casting the chart, I chose to go with the 1st house for the querent, and the chart was cast :

Question : Where is the missing golden chain?

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I will post my interpretation of the chart, and the intuitive reasoning for making that interpretation, as spoilers so those who want to try out their ways on this chart can do so before reading further :

!First of all, I thought the court was in favor. The Via as judge gave an impression that change is on the cards. A welcome thing when we were looking for something that *stayed* missing for sometime now. Caput D, as left witness gave off a vibe that the quested is about to transition into a new phase (back to being found / used) ? Coupled that with the very welcoming F Major as sentence made me see the court as saying it will be found. But not about the whereabouts? For that I needed the house chart.!<

!As with any house chart, my first line of question is which house and figure will stand for the quested. By default this is 2nd house matter. As gold is a movable asset, and as a piece of jewellery it is also a personal belonging. However, in this chart I chose the 7th house. Reason was that like it is mentioned before here elsewhere by u/kidcubby, if a figure is present in the chart that better describes the quested, then often that house and figure can be used as a significatior. To me, the golden sun of F. Major was a better descriptor of gold than the red Rubeus will ever be. !<

!So we have 1st house and 7th for querent and quested.!<

!I wasn't looking for a perfection from house chart, because the question was not 'if the item will be found or not', but about its whereabouts. The first thing that stood out was the F.Major Occupation in 7H & 8H. From what I have seen, an occupation by the quested significator to any house in a missing item chart is a damn good give away of where it could be. In a house, the 7H usually indicates the bedroom or the master bedroom if more than one is present. But of-course my sister and others have already checked in there before coming to me. !<

!Now..7th and 8th house are forming a strong company with each-others. One take I had was that 8th house could be the 'adjacent room to the bedroom (as 8th neighboring 7th), which was a large and mostly empty hall, and had to dismiss that option. But then again, 8th house is that of the setting Sun. That of death and illness. The only thing that kept coming to me when I thought about the house of Morts was the medicines that is the flip-side of illness. You'd almost always find medication near to the sick. While thinking about this and the company it formed to the 7th indicating that both are intermingling, I arrived at my final verdict -!<

!"Look for the chain where you keep medicines in the master bedroom" I announced (though I sounded hardly any confident). And off she went to do the treasure hunting. And 10 mins later she comes knocking at my door again. She was visibly shocked, holding the chain in her hands. And I asked "Nice, where did you get it from"?!<

!"From the medicine box, in the bedroom", she said. Turned out that our mother misplaced the chain in the medicine box and no one bothered to look for it in there when they combed the home, because why would you right ?!<

!Anti-climax : !<

!My sister then rushed to wake my mom up to tell her about how I used some 'ritual' to find it, and my mom, without even bothering to turn and look goes : "ah, it could be he who put it there in the first place." Such a short lived glory.!<

Some years ago, Geomancy appeared in my life as a side effect of a different piece of research. I was following up on a reference in one of Dion Fortune’s books to Lord Edward Bulwer Lytton, whom she described as being one of the great British occultists or initiates. In that research I came across Lytton’s Geomantic reading on the life of British politician Benjamin Disraeli. It was by all accounts extraordinarily accurate. I was also fascinated by the visual and mathematical aspects of the reading and its echoes of the Chinese oracle of change the I-Ching. French magician Robert Ambelain once described Geomancy as a Western I-Ching. This discovery has sent me on a long and continuing journey that has culminated in the geomancer card deck. The geomancer card set is a reworking of geomancy for modern times as card based oracle systems are so incredibly popular now but still incorporates all the traditional aspects of geomancy. I, personally, still use the sandbox method but this approach really does work.

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As an oracle of the earth it is important that we produce the deck as ecologically as possible in a solar powered factory using recycled paper, eco varnishes and inks. However, this is expensive. We are asking for support so that we can produce a large initial print run. This will enable us to keep the cost of each deck at an acceptable level.

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I love geomancy but the part of the method that I rarely employ is setting the rising sign according to the first house figure. I also study astrology independent from geomancy and it just never sat well with me that the first house was would always be a predetermined planet in a predetermined sign. The Agrippan associations always give you a domiciled first house figure so the Cremona associations at least mix it up in an interesting way, but it all feels like kind of a weird fit, especially once the nodes are thrown in.

I want to set the zodiac for the house chart because it lets you work with the traditional dignity system in astrology as part of your interpretation. So I wonder, if anyone has had the same thoughts, whether they've continued to leave it out, or tried a different way to set the ascendant sign? Like, maybe just rolling a 12 sided zodiac astro die?

Is there any methodology, modern or ancient, for creating a "birth chart" in Geomancy?

I can imagine using the birth date to create the Mothers, but not sure how, other than modulo math and a specific order of the figures.

On Sunday evening, as I sat at my laptop considering whether I should study for the upcoming exams or not, I remembered the rumors that there was a test the next day, that is, Monday. Feeling lazy, I decided to check if there would indeed be a test. I interpreted "no" because there was no perfection -- however, there was a favorable aspect involved. Remembering what I learned from u/kidcubby, I adamantly, against my instinctual knowledge, refused to accept that there would be a test.

There was a test.

Okay, the part of Earth Divination that said, "aspects themselves count as connections" wasn't completely nonsense, I guess. And I should have trusted my intuition a little more.

Feeling a little more confident, I attempted to predict if the two courses I had the next day, today, would hold tests or not. The first one is below:

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First Test holding? Yes

I took it as a yes because of the conjunction. There was a lot of other things I read from it, like the unfavorable figures indicating how unprepared I was for the test, but that is beside the point. After interpreting this one, I casted a chart for the second test and got the following:

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Second Test holding? No

There is no perfection in this chart, and the significators don't pass to any other houses, so no aspects either. The Judge and Right Witness are unfavorable, while the only favorable figure from the court is Albus, who is weak. I interpreted this as "No", but also considered the meanings of the figures. Via might imply that the result is still subject to change; maybe the lecturer hadn't made up his mind, or something else makes it uncertain. The reception between the significators, Acquisitio and Carcer is Puer, which I took it as, like before, an indication of my destructive relationship with the test which I would fail if I took it honestly. The Sentence, the ultimate result the outcome would have on me was Amissio, which left me at a loss (ha, loss). Could it be that at the end of the day, even though everything points to the fact that the test would not hold, the chart was telling me through just this single point, that the test would hold? After all, if the test didn't hold, I wouldn't feel at a loss afterward, right?

I didn't know how to interpret the seemingly contradictory interpretations, and ended up not deciding the chart simply meant the test wouldn't hold and I was reading too much into a single figure while ignoring the rest of the chart.

As I narrate this to you, I assure you I indeed undertook two tests today, to my great displeasure. I then went back to the chart to look over it, but I still can't be sure as everything seems clouded in fog. I admit I'm being a little superficial in my interpretations, but because my questions were simple, I was expecting simple answers as well.

I took it as a yes because of the conjunction. There were a lot of other things I read from it, like the unfavorable figures indicating how unprepared I was for the test, but that is beside the point. After interpreting this one, I cast a chart for the second test and got the following:: my interpretation. Thanks in advance. (Also thanks for reading this long post! Take an imaginary award!🏆 )

To combat the misinformation (or more generously, misunderstanding) in geomancy/astrology circles recently, here's a brief run-down of when and how to turn houses while using the house chart. I haven't covered all eventualities, so feel free to ask questions.

There is a misunderstanding that we only turn houses in third party questions (turning the chart), but this is untrue. We may use turned houses in all sorts of charts, for a variety of purposes. Some people use the term 'derived houses' instead.

There are basic rules for how to use turned houses:

1. Analysis of something relative to a third-party: For example, in questions about the querent's child you'll turn from the 5th house as if it were the first. Example: 'Will my son and his girlfriend get married?' - the son is the 5th house, so his girlfriend is the turned 7th. Note that turning from the son is only viable if the thing turned to 'belongs' to the son:
2. Cases of belonging: When the subject of turning 'belongs' to what it is turned from. This can relate to the subject of a third party chart, or to e.g. the quesited in a first party chart:
   1. The girlfriend in the above example 'belongs' to the son. She is his girlfriend, not a girlfriend independent of him, for the purposes of the question. If she was someone else's girlfriend, she would be turned 7th house from that person.
   2. The job someone is already in belongs to him and he has say in how the activities of it occur, so is turned 10th house from the 7th. 'How is my husband getting on at work?'
   3. The job my husband is applying for does not belong to him, so is the radical 10th house. It only might become his job, and as things stand he has no say in how it operates, and no power over it. 'Will my husband get the job at XYZ Enterprises?'
      1. In this same chart, you might want to learn about the salary XYZ Enterprises is willing to pay. The salary is money that belongs to the job, so is the turned 2nd house from house 10.

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Snapshot from Earth Divination, Earth Magic, Chapter Four

There is a LOT to not like in this book:

• sooooo many typos - fife and fine for life and line throughout
• interruptions - one sentence going along and then BOOP! different sentence or more, sometimes on a different topic
• Poor organization - the "Manual" mentions the Sentence, but never actually specifies what that is, even when there's a reference to discussing it
• Explanation - very lacking. I've been practicing Geomancy for over a decade now, and I couldn't follow half of his explanations.

But... I found some interesting and intriguing ideas in it. His explanation of Cattan's "Agreement", for example (though I personally detest the whole "table of agreements" and related calculation, personally - I get why, but just don't like these sorts of point systems).

I am also intrigued by the differences in Company that he (kinda) discussed, but because of the aforementioned bad typos / editing, I'm not exactly sure what he means for most of them.

Same goes for Aspect - he says Cattan uses it differently, then fails to clearly explain how it's different. I THINK it requires Company, but that's part of the "not really explained well".

Does anyone have any additional thoughts / critiques / explanations of Company or Aspect? Do I just have a REALLY BAD edition, and need to go get a new one that is written for people who speak English? (just a gentle jibe there...)

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I'm big into divination and was looking for something to get stuck into so I started looking into Geomancy. I occasionally do professional Tarot and Astrology readings, and I vibed with what I saw of Geomancy.

Decided to do my first chart on the question "Should I study Geomancy?" for fun after seeing it as a 9th House question in Greer's book.

Based on what I've read so far....it doesn't seem like the answer is a yes here, which is really upsetting given I'm quite into it and have enjoyed it!

I didn't know whether Tristitia and Laetitia being the 1st and 9th house sigs had any special significance either, given they are opposites?

Anyway...I draw my conclusion that I should not study geomancy mostly from the Cauda Draconis as Sentence, and the fact that the 1st house significator is Tristitia. As I understand it from the book, a negative querent (Tristitia) and positive quesited (Laetitia) causes you to get what you want, but to regret it.

I hope someone can share their thoughts with me. Definitely feeling pretty Tristitia right now, hah!

Just curious if this is allowed here since a few use figures with more or less than four rows per figure (Like certain versions of Napoleon's Oracle, the Royal Book of Fate, and the I Ching), and at least in the case of smaller figures there's a nonzero amount of trigram-style geomancy

I got attracted to geomancy after I heard it can be used to answer simple yes/no questions similar to a coin toss. Since I am a beginner to the art of divination entirely, I don't hope to crank out full charts for my questions. Just accurate yes/no questions I hope, can be answered.

So to cast yes/no questions, is it recommended to cast the entire geomantic chart or will just one figure suffice?

I noticed that he has 2 books on the topic: Earth Divination Earth Magic, and The Art And Practice Of Geomancy. Most of what I've seen recommends the latter as the absolute best book available and the former I literally can't find much on at all. Are they more or less the same thing? Is one a revision of the other? And which is the best?

Someone asked if they will end up getting divorced from their married partner, and had to turn down the reading because I wasn't really confident of what to look for, lest I give an answer that might bias their mind.

But it has been bogging me, and out of curiosity, those of you who may have had dealt with such questions, what in a chart could indicate a divorce ? I mean it will need more than just a single negative figure in H7, won't it ?

Hello everybody! A young woman asked me, if she will find a kindred spirit and start a family with him. The chart is:

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Because it's a highly important question, I would like to hear a second opinion! In my first interpretation I see no positive outcome. Her significator is in a state of besiegement and combustion. With Fortuna Minor as indicator it looks like: she is under big pressure and rushes to much (Fortuna Minor), which leads to dissapointment (company with Carcer). The Court seems to say something very similar. And even the Reconsiler (Populus) tells, that everything will keep on going the same way. The VII. house shows, that in this matter she should be much more patient. And though the figure in the VII. is a very good one, there is no perfection and no movement -- so no aspects. Fortuna Major in VII. builds a comany with Caput Draconis (Pars fortunae!), which makes it look even more favorable at the first glance. But the reception here is Rubeus and in the V. house we find a Cauda Draconis. And the reception between the two significators is Via -- also not very promising. I notice, that Via in III. and Acquisitio in XI. are very strong ("in their joy"), so, on the other hand, there is a high ability to communicate and theoretically no lack of support.

I would appreciate a second opinion!

Greetings all,

For the past several years, I’ve been using charts to plot out how to manipulate a situation with witchcraft, normally framing my query as something like “will this working succeed as it is planned?”

If I wanted to investigate how long a process should be completed, say “every day for x number of months” perhaps during a time when the astrological weather is conducive to the intended telos of the working, what might be the different ways to see this in a chart?

Perhaps I could cast several charts with different possible options, and look to see which one (if any) give me a positive answer? Are there any other options?

I vaguely remember seeing a variety of time-techniques by digital ambler that allow the geomancer to place like, quantifying time words to different figures…but I’m less familiar with using these.

Anyone got any ideas?

I came across the following statement on Wikipedia:

In simple "yes or no" style divinations, stable figures indicate a positive answer, while mobile figures indicate a negative one.

I was wondering if this was a common approach to interpreting charts for yes/no questions?