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The art of divination using the 16 binary figures of geomancy.

A subreddit to discuss traditional divinatory geomancy, the art of divination using the 16 binary figures of geomancy, as well as its cousins `ilm ar-raml, sikidy, and other related divination systems. Although relatively unused and unheard of for the past few centuries, geomancy has enjoyed a millennium-long spotlight across Africa, the Middle East, the Caribbean, and Europe and used by countless people; it was once second only to astrology in renown and practice. Undergoing a renaissance of its own, geomancy is headed back to its proper place of fame as a useful, down-to-earth, and direct tool of divination.

Please note that this subreddit is not for the discussion of feng shui, vastu shastra, sacred geography, ley lines, or similar branches of the occult. This subreddit is dedicated to divinatory geomancy, and all discussion should be germane to geomancy in some way, whether using traditional Western methods, traditional Arabic or Islamic methods, or modern innovations that are rooted in geomantic practice. Discussions about geomantic technique, correspondences, meditations, connections to Western or Islamic astrology, geomantic ritual or applications to magic, and the like are more than welcome here, including discussions of charts.

If you'd like to discuss a geomantic chart, please be sure to provide the full query information, all sixteen figures (either in Shield Chart or House Chart form or both), and your own interpretation of the chart (even if simple and short). The chart may be shown either using a text description or with an associated image. This is not a place to request readings done for you or to have readings interpreted for you, so please remember to give as much as you get and help as much as you are helped!

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Assigning and turning houses for charts about magic

Context: Someone I know runs a shop selling amulets created by different monks / occult practitioners. As I'm considering getting one, I want to divine whether they will help me with particular goals.

I'm a little confused about where I should look for the amulet in the house chart. As a creation of an experienced magical practitioner, an amulet in general would be 5H from 9H. This, however, poses a few issues:

  1. The quesited, turned 5H from 9H, is the same location as radical H1. In cases like this, how should we re-assign (? not sure if this is the right word) the houses to be able to read perfection/reception/etc?

  2. Do I need to account for the seller in the chart? i.e that the object is currently in his possession and I'm buying it from him

a. And considering that he himself deals with / advises on magical work, would he be a 7H "other person", 6H service, or 9H person of expertise?

Thanks in advance!

3 Comments
2024/11/01
09:02 UTC

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"What does my male boss think of me?" [Agrippa vs. Traditional house systems + turned houses]

Agrippa

Traditional for comparison

For some time now I have been experimenting with Agrippa's method to populate the house chart from the shield chart and I've been getting good results. Even so, I would like to hear second opinions on this topic based on the following chart, as well as thoughts on which houses should be the quesited for this question.

At first, I consider that Agrippa's method in this case gives me a much more cohesive and accurate answer considering what I perceive in my work environment. I would take Fortuna Minor in H10 to represent my boss since he is in an elevated position despite not being the head of the department (which would be Fortuna Major). FM also tracks with my boss's personality—someone with outer brilliance but who appears to have some anxiety underneath.

From that point, I would consider H6 from H10 to represent myself as this boss's employee, so FM in that house would be the answer to the question. I would say this means that he recognizes my talent but gracefully thinks that I have some room for improvement. To me, this makes more sense than Tristitia in the same position in the traditional house system chart.

I'm still quite skeptical of using turned H6 as the significator for the quesited, though, and I wonder if H7 (or another) would be more consistent, since I'm not exactly my boss's employee as in pertaining to him in that sense. I'm still his subordinate, so I guess that's close enough considering the range of possible meanings for this house (servants and pets).

Any other thoughts regarding Agrippa's method would be appreciated as well.

6 Comments
2024/10/29
16:15 UTC

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Same Figure in 11th & 12th House

In some cases, I have seen the same figure in the 11th & 12th house. For example, Rubeus as both the friend and the unknown enemy.

I have practiced/studied for over a year and a half, and still feel completely unclear on how to interpret this when it occurs. Even retroactively. I'm curious to share how you all read when this happens!

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2024/10/22
15:05 UTC

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Resources for qirra dice?

Anyone know where to get these? I know there's a few stores on Etsy selling qirra dice but I'm looking for brass or metallic ones in particular. Thank you!

2 Comments
2024/10/19
15:58 UTC

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Some Difficulties with an Injury Chart

So, I'm back again with a chart that I found a bit confounding. The chart was a third party reading cast for the question "Will [my brother] be injured on his National Guard Activation?" I'll spoiler the rest, in case anyone wants to interpret untainted.

https://preview.redd.it/rfkdzes68jvd1.png?width=898&format=png&auto=webp&s=e992346d9078cfa317b80fe3c40e7a656e3903bf

!​To me, this chart read as a clear-occupation between the 3rd and 8th house (which would be the 6th from the 3rd). This suggested injury to me (possibly in the neck or knees based on the presence of Laetitia in other houses). All of this turned out to be completely false, leaving me with two possible options. The first is that I simply misread the chart. This is always a distinct possibility. The other possibility that I considered, in retrospect, is that the chart was cast on 10.9, when he was activated for hurricane relief. Is it possible that the prohibition against geomancy charts applies equally to to third party readings whose querent is in a storm?!<

6 Comments
2024/10/18
15:20 UTC

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Turned Houses

Where can I learn more about turned houses? I've not come across this phrase before. Thank you 😊

5 Comments
2024/10/02
21:53 UTC

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Driving Test Chart

This chart was cast yesterday with the question "Will [my brother] pass his road test tomorrow?". I'd been reading on when to to rotate the chart and when not to in the sub and thought I'd give it a try. I made the querent the third house, as it regarded my brother. I was less confident in the quested. I put it as tenth house as it was essentially would the government give him permission to do something. I left it unturned because he did not yet possess the thing. With that interpretation, I see a translation between 2 and 11. I also believe there is conjunction through company with the 4 and 5. This leads me to rule in his favor. I'm interested to see what if others have a different interpretation of the chart. When I find out the outcome. I'll update with the outcome of the chart. Thanks all!

Update: My brother heard last night that he passed his driver's test.

https://preview.redd.it/3t99cejn0dsd1.png?width=946&format=png&auto=webp&s=75b466059b45819f7140f0fbb1bbf037d81647c3

9 Comments
2024/10/02
15:14 UTC

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Appropriate Houses for the Quesited.

I was working on a question and format for a chart, and it occurred to me that many of the more mundane activities don't have clear-cut houses, at least by way of the traditional House placements and themes. I came to geomancy from Tarot and runes, and my grip on astrology is tenuous at best. I've learned most of what I know of the houses from reading about geomancy. Now I'm left wondering where some of these more modern or daily activities may fit into a chart. For example:

How will shopping with N on Saturday go?

Here I presume self is H1, and friendly acquaintance N can be H7, but what to do with shopping? It's local, so is it surroundings/H3? Money is involved so H2? Would it be entertainment and H5?

I would love just a quizbook of what things belong in which houses, but geomantic reading materials are pretty thin when it comes to things published in the information age. Some more examples:

Will good friend X text me back?

Should I use Turbo Tax or go to a local tax prep service?

Will I win some money from my sports book bets this Sunday?

Not all of these have come up yet, but it would give me a good idea of where I should be placing related quesiteds. Thank you all for what you have already contributed. This sub has been a game-changer already!

8 Comments
2024/09/20
23:29 UTC

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When it's all neutral

If you cast a yes/no binary question but the questor is neutral, the witnesses cancel each other out, the judge is neutral and the reconciler is also neutral, is there anything else to check in the shield?

Should you cast again at another time or just accept the non-answer?

Many thanks.

3 Comments
2024/09/20
04:55 UTC

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Interrupted chart casting

Hi everyone. I am new to Reddit-posting and quite new to Geomancy, so I hope this is okay to ask here.

What would you do if you were interrupted while casting/calculating/constructing a chart? For contaxt, I was casting a chart for someone else, and we were in a reasonably private setting with a closed door. While the person was making dots to create the mothers, someone barged into the room and started talking to the person without consideration for the process. The person making the dots was eventually able to finish the 16 rows but while constructing the chart we were interrupted again, so that I was only able to draw the first line of a shield chart.

Would you "close" the setting and try again with a whole new chart at a later instance? Or would you resume the interpretation with the found figures, finish casting the chart, and interpret as soon as possible?

Thank you in advance for your input!

12 Comments
2024/09/18
17:49 UTC

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Help With Clarification

Hey Guys, I was recently doing a shield chart to find out if employing some magic will help me obtain a visa I hope to get. The witnesses being the fortuna major but the judge being populus is making me believe that yes It can help although I should be ready to keep consistent at doing the magic and it should be ultimately successful, would this be correct? Or is the chart saying that despite my work things will stay the same (I wont win the visa)

In the house chart I have albus as the significator of the magic in the eighth house and populus in the first house but I really do not understand it. They are both weak figures and in that regard which i am interpreting to mean that the result will be weak. Please help out

https://preview.redd.it/gqk6hhvicdpd1.png?width=1068&format=png&auto=webp&s=b66849d901acf415ff1df7041c2684b3da8a4e3a

5 Comments
2024/09/17
13:08 UTC

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When there's disagreement

What do you do in a reading if the court says one thing but other parts of the chart or charts show conflicting information?

If it's a binary question do you always stop at the court and just do a shield reading? Thanks in advance 😃

4 Comments
2024/09/17
02:39 UTC

2

Necroing threads

As this is a fairly niche sub, would it be OK to "necro" some older threads? There's some really excellent discussions that I'd like to explore more but most are over a year old.

Thanks in advance! 😃

4 Comments
2024/09/14
22:16 UTC

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Agrippa, Hartmann & Skinner

I already have works by Greer, Abano and Polyphanes. Always looking for more gems. Can anyone recommend the three listed?

Thanks in advance.

3 Comments
2024/09/14
17:53 UTC

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Question on perfection

I keep coming across the term "perfection". What is it, how do you look for it and how does it factor into a reading? (I hope you don't mind the "dumb" questions . I'm just a bit overwhelmed right now,!)

I don't mind reading offsite either, I just don't know the best place to look! Thanks in advance! 😃

4 Comments
2024/09/13
13:10 UTC

2

The Nodes/Dragons

Can you take the meanings of the North and South nodes and apply them to Geomancy? Sorry, still very new to this. Thanks.

6 Comments
2024/09/13
02:46 UTC

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Questions for Geomancy

I'm still quite new to Geomancy although I use several other different divination systems. (Before getting into chart making, I did purchase some "Druid Sticks" so I did learn a little about the figures.)

My question is, is this system better suited to binary questions or can it be used other ways?

Thanks in advance.

11 Comments
2024/09/11
01:08 UTC

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Rubeus appearing as first mother?

Hey guys, I was doing a house chart reading for the first time. I’m completely new to Geomancy and have been unsure about what I want to do career path wise, so I ended up asking what it would look like if I pursued a certain career using the house chart. Rubeus instantly showed up as first mother. I was reading a bit online before I started and remembered multiple websites warning to “destroy the figure” or “abandon the reading” if it shows up first.

I felt instantly fatigued afterwards (didn’t have great sleep the night before) so I abandoned the reading without “destroying the figure” and took a nap. I wake up 4 hours later and ended up scribbling over the figure just to be sure, although I don’t know if that suffices as “destroying”. I couldn’t really find anything clarifying if you should take certain steps to destroy the figure so I assume it’s as simple as that. I also read that you should destroy the figure and within 2 hours make another figure so whoops! Ah well.

I find it kinda odd that there are these rules/warnings to abandon the entire reading if certain figures show up first, even going as far as destroying the figure.

Perhaps it’s also relevant to add I asked the same question beforehand in a test reading where I just generated one figure without using the house chart/shield chart. I ended up with Populous, which I’ve also read makes a reading “untrustworthy”? I really don’t get it. What do you guys think? Should I try again or is something pissed at me? Maybe I should just stick to tarot lol

9 Comments
2024/08/28
05:09 UTC

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Yahoo Groups: Geomantic Campus

I've come across a few mentions of the Geomantic Campus Yahoo group and what a valuable resource it was.

Unfortunately Yahoo closed all groups in 2020 and since the group was restricted it was not backed up to the Internet Archive. I was wondering if anybody here be have made their own backup of the group?

0 Comments
2024/08/15
07:50 UTC

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"Am I under any paranatural harm?"

Link to chart!

I mean, so many traditionally negative signs! Tristita, Carcer as Judge.

Over the last 1-2 weeks, a lot of trouble has happened. I got sick enough to warrant a visit in urgent care, my laptop broke, stress is adding up in my work because I missed some hours of pay, I lost my keys and had to call out of work for two days while it got returned to me. I decided to cast a chart and I think the answer is a no, but I'd appreciate any second opinions to help me decide if I'm right or if I'm just trying to tell myself a comforting lie, haha.

Reubeus applying to second house I'm reading as all the worries and stressors hitting my personal belongings (keys, laptop, paycheck). Tris. in 12th house I wanted to see as a sign that my troubles are going to be lowered in life, and furthermore there's no perfection between the 12th and 1st so I wanted to say I'm not being affected.

Carcer is restriction, but it is also isolation and security. Since my question was if I'm under any sort of harm, a sentence of "no, you're alone" should be positive, right? The Right Witness being Conjunctio I wanted to see as I'm currently facing a lot of different challenges mixing from different angles but LW, Via, may suggest that that's going to change soon.

Even looking at the Cardines I think I see the story playing out: Reubeus (I'm stressed, I'm worried, I'm facing violence) goes to Conjunctio (I'll come in contact with other forces, balance will return) goes to Tristita (stress will be lowered; I'm going to build myself back up) and finally ends with Cauda Draconis (this situation will naturally end in the outcome).

Thanks in advance for anyone able to help!

7 Comments
2024/07/24
04:30 UTC

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Completely New

I heard about Geomancy today, and feel completely drawn to it. (I currently do tarot)

What books would you recommend? Have you had any negative or scary experiences with it?

6 Comments
2024/07/07
19:20 UTC

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