Inexperience, or youthful follly, portrays the relationship between the ego and the Self as one of student to master. It is with the Self, the deeper one gets involved in the Work, the more difficult the lessons become so that one is always kept in a position of relative Inexperience. When Inexperience seeks wisdom, Will responds to Will. The proper duty of the Self is to nourish the correct nature of the ignorant.

I’ve been doing icing for a while. I just went through a massive breakup that came out of nowhere. Six years gone in a flash. We both did some stupid stuff while it ended. I kept constantly trying to reach out, to understand. She lied to me about everything, including her sexuality.

I love this woman with my entire soul. I don’t know what to do anymore. Every morning, waking up without her is like entering a nightmare.

Today I wrote my note. You know what kind. But I wanted to ask the iching one more time what would happen between us in the future if I just waited. And I got that.

51 to 13.

I don’t feel like I’m really experienced enough to understand. Someone please help me.

Distress is experienced as Heaven and Earth begin their intercourse. This is an initial difficulty to how struggle is the condition of a state which is emerging from disorder after a revolution. Such in experienced because confusion and multiplicity prevail during the initial phase of any creative activity, thought and feelings proliferate and threaten to overwhelm the mind with infinite complexity. Difficulty means filling up the space-time and time-space dimensions. This "filling" is the same term as "pleroma" of fullnesss which correlates with the collective unconscious or objective psyche. These are interior dimensions from which emanates the archetypical energies which we experience as instictual drives and emotional complexes. The left and right side of the brain are not in a proper union.

I asked the oracle, "Just how can I defeat these demons of mine?" referring mainly to addictions and poor habits that seem to be crippling my potential.

What do you guys think the oracle is saying here?

Hexagram 24 - Return/Repose seems quite positive to me, signifying a return to the beginning before these took hold of me, as well as preserving energy for better pursuits.

Changing line 1. "Rest and repose: a good omen"

Changing line 6. "Lost in the return. Bewitchment. Foreboding adversity. A calamity hits. Deploying the army. The army is defeated. Foreboding adversity for their kingdom's ruler. There will not be another favorable chance of attack for ten years."

These seem contradictory to me - perhaps they refer to two paths that one could take?

Hexagram 23 - Partition/Splitting Apart - A mountain about to topple over. Regardless of the path taken, much foundational change will occur?

This hexagram shows the proper role of the egoic mind as one of receptivity to the Will of the Significator/Self. The ego, inhabiting a physical vehicle, is the psychological link which connects the material dimension of space-time with the world of thought where the Self resides. To be receptive to the influence of the Self is to allow its energy to work through the ego-body to attain purpose. The sexual, male-female metaphor must be interpreted as one of polarity, the same with the 1st and 2nd hexagram.

The question is: why do I feel like the whole Universe conspires against me?

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I created this I Ching quiz to help people better understand the principles behind the hexagrams, and I wanted to share this example from one of the questions about Hexagram 24, "Fu" or "Return."

Hexagram 24 represents a time when things naturally return to their original state after a period of change. It's not about conflict, immobility, or upheaval—it’s about recognizing that life has its own rhythms, and sometimes the best thing to do is let the natural flow restore balance.

One of the deeper insights of the I Ching is that when you’re fully present and aware, you don’t even need the hexagrams as a guide. They’re there to point you toward the natural order of things, the ultimate goal is to develop the awareness to recognize these patterns on your own.

What do you think about the idea of using tools like this, to help develop inner awareness? 😊

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i am trying to find information on this style of yijing divination, any clues are appreciated, thanks!

The primordial, originating heavenly/celestial principle in motion. It is the mobile forces of the consciousness within. It is the power of celestial forces that the Significator, the dynamic Self, the nucleus of Consciousness, labors with. This dynamic principle is the life force itself, the Kundalini force which is equated to sexualuty, for it is from the intermingling of the Yin and Yang principles that life manifest from. The serpents/dragons are the symbols of negative and positive forces constantly being harnessed to do the Work in consciousness.

Let us say, for example, that we cast hex 1 with all changing lines, it changes to hex 2, right?

So, for the second hexagram (the transformed one) interpretation, which lines should one read?

A) The judgement and image only? B) The unchanging lines section? C) Or, the same changing lines as we read on the first hex?

My boyfriend broke up with me and I asked iching if he is gonna come back and I got the 51 when I was reading that part from the book there was a saying that don’t run after them they will be given to you after seven days later and i took that as a sign and asked again if he is gonna come back after 7 days later and got the 28 (3. And 6. lines are changing)and I don’t know how to interprete it could someone please share their opinions about this? Btw English is not my first language sorry in advance for my mistakes.

I did a divination with coins, asked about how you see me with this girl, it is possible that we end up together or I’m just expecting too much of this story I make inside my mind? I’ve been in love with this person for so many years but she’s also my friend. The future will be better for us If I just keep it for myself and never tell her what I feel or should I go ahead and do it bc she could also feel the same as me?

The hexagram is 11 Peace, only 1 changing line on the second (yang).

Always use Wilhem book to read the description and it look promising but I don’t want to fool my self to much that’s why I wanted to share with you and maybe get some guidance from you guys. I got lost on the resulting hexagram 36 Darknening of the light, don’t know if this means there’s no future for us, even if I try hard to be with her.

I've noticed more and more attempts to create an AI I Ching reading service so I though I will share this.

I've experimented about AI back in July with GPT4 by creating a custom GPTs which is freely accessible at "https://ai.castingiching.com". It can be used with the free ChatGPT account, it's just an experiment so do not expect much :).

I use it occasionally to check my own interpretation, to see if I forgot to consider any aspect that an AI would detect. To use this way, you specify the outcome you got like before the question.

For example: "27.3.5 How can I do xxxxx", will provide an interpretation of the hexagram 27 with the 3rd and 5th line changing in the context of the question.

Prompt, data and code is available as Open Source (under the MIT licence) on GitHub: (https://github.com/rdentato/castingiching) in the 'customgpt' directory.

Any feedback welcome.

The situation seemed too much for me, too intense. So I interpreted this as ‘no, you made the right choice’. But I’m not sure, so would love your input - thank you

Not Chinese or from East Asia, but am familiar with the Turtle story about the magic square and its potential link to the iChing.

Can someone explain why the iChing works so well?

Like is it because it is linked to the magic square spirits or because the “advisors” are ascended sages (humans who passed away, or saints) who wish well for humanity.

Sorry for asking something so fundamental. If you have any resource (book, website) to refer me to that is also fine. It is a question I have had for a while.

Considering the I Ching is one of the 5 classics of ancient China's literature, I been wondering if I Ching was used as a guide book by itself read in a cover to cover manner without practising divination? Or alternatively as a work of philosophy sans the use of coins, yarrow sticks, burning turtle shells, and other fortune telling methods?

I ask because I read the Analects a while back and I vaguely remember the I Ching mentioned in the text. That there are claims of Confucius keeping a copy of the book throughout history. I also learned from reading on a blog that the I Ching is also mentioned in another of the Five Classics, the Spring and Autumn Annals.

So considering how its so associated with Confucianism and referenced in multiple classic literature in Chinese history, I'm wondering if the I Ching was ever used just for the sake of reading it from front page to back without using divinatory tools like yarrow stalks? Like did scholars study philosophy by reading it? Without divination, did people use the book to search for guidance in daily life in the way modern people skim across the Bible today for advice?

Have literary critics throughout history praised its writing style (which can be poetic at least in the translations I read)?

With how so tied the I Ching is with various philosophical systems, ancient Chinese literature, and the intelligentsia throughout history, I'm curious about this.

I asked what would happen if I send this text to my ex and got 14 with all lines changing to hex 8…. How would you interpret this?

Today Pluto left Capricorn (hex 24) for the last time and for the next 20 years will be in Aquarius (hex 19).

Pluto rules intensity, obsession, extremes. The sign it is in tends to show where we focus our efforts. Pluto in capricorn was about shoring up our foundation, making it solid and stable, getting rid of any cracks that could lead to things breaking down later on.

Unfortunately it seems like we did a lot of posturing to protect our global structure, our top down economics, etc during this time. So as we transition into Aquarius, anything not square in that foundation is likely to get challenged.

Aquarius is a stubborn energy, but it does its best to work toward harmony, especially equality between peoples. It brings innovation and change.

And with Pluto in this sign, we will see intensity around these areas. It is likely there will be protests and rebellions, and wildly unbelievable changes.

I hadn't been tracking it closely, and did not realize that today was the day it finally transitioned into Aquarius for good.

And with that, I realized that all this election stuff about shock for this next POTUS term, well that it all makes sense.

But with a veiled global war between the US and Russia, and with Trump and Musk both thought to be in Putin's hands, but frankly all of them being volatile and unpredictable, it is a little concerning. It would be nice if we can get through this without nukes.

So people are currently looking forward to all of the entertainment this will bring, even as news of Musk having bad blood with people in Trump's inner circle.

But I'm kinda like no, no, we want as little crazy as possible.

And well that's what 28.1 is all about anyway. Spreading white rushes underneath - kinda like a gymnast using padding to break the impact of their often intense landings.

So hopefully we're able to provide something in that capacity. Something to buffer whatever shocks come.

20 years is a long time. The 20 of pluto in capricorn felt fairly uneventful, but capricorn is one of the most stable signs in the zodiac - due to its always returning to its core values. In that way it is also somewhat limited. It works slowly because it has to build up from the bottom.

But 20 years of Pluto in Aquarius is less likely to go unnoticed. With Aquarius / Overseeing (19) we have built something up to the point where there is energy in the middle line, and we can really do something with that energy to oversee change. There is a lot of potential to work with, and we want to change it all.

Things are certainly moving rapidly in that direction.

So lets all go and find ways to lay padding underneath anything that might need to be buffered from going to extremes.

In the Shock thread I had the opportunity to share a bit more about how I use the principles from Wang Bi's intro to get validation of meaning from the text.

Which also shows that the text uses these principles as its basis.

I already wrote in depth about 57 lines 2 and 6 over here, which both have the same "yielding is present beneath the platform". When we imagine the platform as sagging, giving way, yielding beneath one, as the meaning of Xun, it starts to make sense.

And this is precisely the meaning when there is a yang line in a line position that is ideally suited to yin flexibility.

When yang activates it wants to be able to have solid footing beneath it. When it does have that, it would feel like one is walking on sand, or something that is giving way beneath one's steps. Both lines 6 and 2 are the only yang lines in this hexagram that are positioned like this. Line 2 uses the assistance of those around them to ensure they are complying with what is appropriate and manages to stay centered, but line 6 is at the end of the hexagram, a yang line reaching past the end of things and losing its footing.

What I found cool in this was that here we have this pattern, a yang line in a soft position, found in only two lines. And both of those lines used the same wording to show how that principle was in operation.

Before this, I could never make sense of those lines or their meanings. Connecting the line statement with this just fit together like matching puzzle pieces. And brought the meaning through with clarity.

But then I thought about another good example.

The use of 介 in hexagram 16 line 2:

六二：介于石，不終日，貞吉。

Most translators say 介于石 means something like "as firm as a rock"

Jie 介 means (Kroll):

1. boundary between two territories, limit; border, edge; shore
2. position(ed) between 2 things; intermediate.

a) intermediary, go-between; messenger
b) mediator, intercessor; introduce(r)
3) increase, add to
4) aid, help, assist(ant); deputy
a) have the aid of, draw support from; rely on, depend on, protect(ed).
5) isolated, separate; aloof; conspicuous
6) shell, hard outer casing, testaceous; plating; carapace; crustacean; gen. term for animals with shelly covering
7) plate armor, of soldiers; armored.

So it is not a simple concept, but it all stems from how it represents the edge of something that is between one thing and another thing. It can be both a boundary that divides two things, as well as the go-between that connects them together and supports them, or protects them. In this way we can see that all of the meanings are tied into this one principle.

So in 16 the consensus is that we're using these last two definitions here, to mean firmness or hardness that protects someone, that is in between ourselves and others. Given that whatever 介 means is in regards to a rock or stone, firm as a rock seems to work.

But what if we try to see what happens with the "in between" meaning, and then apply it to the hexagram. In between rocks. Is line 2 in between rocks? Well, it is between a yin line below it, and a yin line above it. Is there some reason the text would call them rocks, or infer that line 2 is struggling in between the hard conditions they are creating?

Well, line 1:

Beginning Yin: Giving voice to excitement, inauspicious.

Beginning Six giving voice to excitement, because the heart's purpose pushes to the limit inauspiciously.

And line 3:

Six Third: Wide eyed excitement, regrettable. Procrastinating has regret.

Wide eyed excitement has regret, because the position is inappropriate.

OK, so both of these lines are excitable and rushing into things. That sounds difficult. Also, both the first and third line position are ideally suited to yang firmness. Yin softness and flexibility is unsuitable for this. They both just want to respond immediately to the excitement being generated by Fourth Yang above, for both would connect with it according to the principles. Line 1 because it and line 4 are the bottom lines of their trigrams. Line 3 because it is beneath line 4 and has no other partner.

So we see that line 2 really is in between two somewhat ungrounded forces here, and it makes sense. Moreover, line 2 is a central line, and line 2 is suitable for yin softness and flexibility.

So the text tells us:

Six Second: In between rocks, not to the end of the day, Aligning Toward Completion auspicious.

Not to the end of the day, Aligning Toward Completion auspicious; because it uses centrality correctly.

That by using centrality correctly, line 2 is able to align toward completion and find its balance.

OK, cool! That gives me more context to work with, and reading it as in between actually fit with what the line was between, literally.

We argue about couple times a week. The thing is and I’ll be honest - she’s getting mad at me repeatedly, for anything. Whether I’ll talk to her, won’t talk to her and etc. The relationship is kind of toxic from her side, and it’s impossible to talk to her logically when she’s mad - she’s resentful, she thinks that I’m wrong and stuff like that. Well nobody’s perfect, and tbh these games of blaming are just a tiresome experience. I love her. I really do. She’s the best when she’s not like that. It might be my own mistake that I was feeding this behavior when she was always mad and trying to leave I just tried to talk to her, to be stoic and calm. But now it seems it will never end. She’s got this quality of apologizing for her behavior afterwards, but still she’s finding another reason to blame me for something.

Breaking up was never an option for me, since I’ve chose her and she chose me, and I really believe in sticking together until the end. She tried to break up with me several times already.. but in the end it’s always ily and stuff like that. I’ve asked iching for an advice in this situation and it gave me :

Hexagram 2.5 changing to 8

don’t get it , please help me to explain

Today I finished working out the Shock hexagram in my translation and commentary.

I wanted to post about it for a couple of reasons.

First I found it to be challenging to get to the bottom of for a while, despite seeming like it ought to be simple. But with the wording, especially with the subtleties between lines 1 and 2, I found it difficult.

And secondly, because 51 line 1 was cast regarding the next Trump term. And with that again we have the confusion about what line 1 really means.

So here it is in full, but lets talk about line 1 some more.

初九：震來虩虩，後笑言啞啞，吉。

Beginning Nine: Thunderous Shock summons fear and terror, if then afterward laughing in response with exclaims of surprise, oh, ah!, auspicious.

震來虩虩，恐致福也。笑言啞啞，後有則也。

Shock summons fear and terror, because fright leads to good fortune. Laughing in response with exclaims of surprise, oh, ah!, because afterward things return to normal.

Interpretation is confusing because there is this element of good fortune involved with what is obviously the source of the shock.

My commentary goes into this a bit more, but ultimately this source of shock could be anything sudden at all. An epiphany. Someone suddenly shouting on the street. A joke. A meme. A car backfiring. A lightning strike. An earthquake. A phone ringing. Snow beginning to fall. A shooting star.

All of these things have a moment when they create an impact. And some of these impacts can be positive, but they all have 'shock waves' that ripple through. Some of these shock waves might be more like the brainstorm after an epiphany, or the conversation after the phone call. And others might be more impactful, like the shocks of car accidents and natural disasters.

The advice being given is not to tell us that even though there is shock, it will bring good fortune.

But to tell us that if we are able to recover and remain calm, even as the shock wave ripples through, we will remain centered and clear headed rather than going crazy. Even if there is an earthquake, it is best that we stay calm and benefit from that calmness as we adapt and recover. Recover from whatever shock came.

If I throw a punch, when it connects, that is an impact. For both me delivering the blow as well as the other receiving the blow. But we aren't talking about who does what here - we're talking just about the moment of impact and how its shock wave ripples through. Receiving a punch and recovering is just as important as recovering after delivering the punch, and to both giver and receiver, good fortune comes in quickly adapting and recovering.

But, there is always failing to recover.

Second Yin rides on First Yang's shocking strength, and represents the shock wave carrying through and doing damage. Second Yin is a central line and wants to be centered, but can't help but respond to the shock by evacuating its home and running for the hills.

Here too, because the nature of the shock could come in many flavors, how the shock wave ripples through also comes in many flavors. Rumors spread like waves, and are spread by those who are most affected by them, in their agitation.

Fifth Yang here is actually a fact checker, and operates to bring the rumor back down to reality, to ask the questions that aren't being asked, etc, etc, to help Second Yin realize when it is overreacting to something. And thus can help to save Second Yin from how it is weathering the shock.

But all of it comes from First Yang.

We don't really know what flavor of shock we'll get in the next four years, or how we'll respond to it, or anything.

So in the end, typical of the Yi, we get an incredibly apt answer that we can all see the truth in, that hardly tells us anything we don't already know.

But it was fun finally getting to the bottom of it.

I tended to struggle with 53 line 3 in particular for a while. Once I worked it out better, it made so much sense, and is really helpful for me to understand.

This AIO thread seems to capture this allure between lines 3 and 4 quite well, and really demonstrates what is going on here on lots of levels. Someone found their original account as well, which details how there has been a long going obsession between the OP and his coworker for some time, which helps to explain the situation in the anonymous thread. He seems to be trying to deal with it, but it seems like he is a bit more in over his head than he realizes, and hasn't yet figured out how to really contain the energies in a way that will prevent this work-place relationship from getting in the way of his relationship with his GF.

Essentially, line 3 is a yang line, in a position ideal for yang firmness. And the same for line 4 being a yin line, in a position ideal for yin flexibility.

However, they don't have matching partners, so they end up being attracted to each other. Third Yang won't magnetize toward Sixth Yang (they're both yang, and not otherwise inclined to connect). And the same for Fourth Yin and First Yin. And yet they have each other.

But Third Yin in particular is the top line of mountain, and has the role of keeping things still and stable. Which is why the third position is ideal for yang firmness. It can hold itself together and help to contain what is below and facilitate the exchange with the upper trigram.

The problem is that it, being attracted to Fourth Yin, struggles to remain true to the bigger picture. Third Yang exists with a role and a position, but it is not the central line of its trigram. Second Yin is. And Second Yin does have a Yang partner to connect with in the Fifth position.

So, when Third Yang stops maintaining the boundary between the two trigrams and engages with its attraction to Fourth Yin, the ability for Second Yin and Fifth Yang to connect is delayed, because their centers are being influenced.

Thus:

Nine Third: Wild geese gradually advancing to a level way, A husband goes to contest and does not come back, A wife becomes pregnant but does not give birth, misfortune; Advantageous Culmination resisting and repelling that which robs from.

A husband goes to contest and does not come back, because abandoning the group is shameful. A wife becomes pregnant but does not give birth, due to losing its way. Advantageous Culmination making use of governing and controlling that which robs from, on account of conforming to mutual safeguarding.

The affairs of the husband and wife are such that they struggle to recover from them. The child is aborted and the husband goes away and does not return home. There is advantage to be found in resisting and repelling that which tempts one to stray from what is proper.

Six Fourth: Wild geese gradually advance to the trees, in some cases attaining their perch, not having disaster, blame and regret.

In some cases attaining their perch, due to following the operation of flexibility.

(Mysterious.Center translation)

Here Fourth Yin is just following its own nature, and it is not wrong for it to settle upon a nice perch if one happens along. This perch is with Third Yang. These types of exchanges are not necessarily affairs, but simply the natural affinities we have with each other. This is why it is important for Third Yang to be the one that contains itself to what is proper, because given its position it will always be encountering things that may draw it from its proper role. That doesn't mean it can't engage with these things, it just needs to not abandon itself to them, or it may find that everything unravels.

And meanwhile Fourth Yin may be happy to find a perch, but knows that it is just temporary. In turning to support Fifth Yang, Fourth Yin begins to look ahead at how it can become part of something lasting, and helps Fifth Yang to connect with Second Yin in a more formal relationship.

Always amazing to me how the Yi is able to capture and encode such complex layers of the reality of change. Especially when it comes to relationship between multiple parts of a dynamic.

does anyone have any good resources on how to learn "turtle style" I Ching?

i understand the basics -- that cracks in bone or shell (and most commonly turtle shells) were used and often expressed with fire (combining pyromancy with osteomancy/plastromancy).

i think it is easy enough to map broken and unbroken lines to cracks, but there is obviously a depth here of communication that goes beyond this simple binary: specifically, that there is some ordering of the cracks by orientation, length, and shape that also contributes to their meaning.

i want to emphasize i am NOT interested in divination. i'm trying to understand the Yijing as a language of objective patterns, so it is important that the reading methods i study focus on repeatability of results.

i am interested in "turtle style" with the same curiosity that Leibniz had toward FuXi. i am hoping that the rules to understanding what a turtle shell "says" can have visual pattern recognition matching implications, possibly to new algorithms that can make intuitive sense to people, be easily computed, and have idempotent results.

so? any good turtle guides?

Long story short, my relationship with my partner has its ups and downs. I love her. She.. I still believe she does. The things is we started living together not so long ago, and since then had a lot of arguings and tears started from her side. I mean, of course she’s not lunatic and she’s the person unhappy in the relationship. I’ve asked I Ching if there’s a way I can heal the trauma she has that is causing her to start fights. Maybe not even trauma , maybe the general things that would make her happy again. I am also tired of this, but I just want happiness for the both of us. I Ching gave me a hexagram 55 with changing lines 1 and 2, changing to 32. What your possible interpretations could be on that, so to give me a food for thought

I am born in china and my parents gave my me the first name 震乾, which I always interpreted as to shake the heavens (I always thought it was a very bold name haha).

However, I only recently started discovering the I ching, and realized that my name is basically the hexagram 34 (Great Invigorating).

I just thought I would share and wonder if there are any wisdom I can gain from this.

Since last week on Friday, I been using yarrow sticks for readings along side the revised edition of Wu Wei's The Book of Answers.

In the book, Wu Wei keeps insisting on yarrow sticks being the hands down superior method because getting 9s and 6s are statistically far less likely than with coins (in which using the latter gives about an even amount or at least more frequent probability of getting either numbers). So he fullheartedly insist that getting less changing lines makes yarrow stalks give far more accurate readings.

The flipside is that its far more time consuming which I can confirm myself. First several readings took almost an hour each and even after I got the hang of the steps, 15 minutes was about the average time it took for met to cast readings just like Wu Wei states is to be expected in his book. But Wu Wei states this is actually better because it allows you to focus more on casting the reading thus sending energy out into the universe and receiving the energy in response back into the yarrow sticks thus the oracle is better able to send its true intended advice through the items. Esp if you add ritual steps like placing it above incense to get the magical energy and other magickal actions.

So I'm wondering is yarrow sticks really superior to coins? What does your experience show? So far I gotta say while coins were already accurate, yarrow sticks become very uncanny and creepy in how they get the specific circumstances of my questions so spot on! So I'm wondering what you other folks have seen from using both methods.

A couple of months ago I picked up the “I Ching: The Oracle” expecting yet another rote translation of the ancient text. But what I’ve found in Benebell Wen’s work is nothing short of revolutionary.

This isn’t just another book about The Book of Changes; it’s a portal. Wen doesn’t simply translate; she excavates, weaving history, culture, and mysticism into a world that invites readers to engage with the I Ching as a living, breathing force.

As someone who has flirted with Taoist philosophy and divination for years, I felt as though Wen had unlocked dimensions of the I Ching I didn’t even know existed. Here, the oracle isn’t a relic—it’s a compass for navigating the chaos of modern life.

What sets Wen apart is her unapologetically bold approach. She doesn’t just offer translations; she pulls you deep into the currents of Taoist mysticism, metaphysics, and shamanic traditions with the fervor of someone who lives this wisdom.

The annotations, the yarrow stalk divination techniques, the ritual applications—this isn’t just a book you read; it’s a book you work.

Whether you’re tossing coins for clarity or diving into Wen’s analysis of Taoist cosmology, you’ll feel like you’ve been handed an ancient tool kit to craft your own path through uncertainty. This is the I Ching for those who refuse to merely study the Tao—they’re ready to live it.

Curious as to whether anyone else has read or is reading it.

I've been experimenting with digitally simulating the traditional yarrow stalk divination process while offering both energy-based and Zhouyi interpretations. Would love to discuss this approach with the community.

The technical method:

- Simulates the traditional 50-stalk division process

- Uses cryptographically secure random number generation

- Maintains authentic probabilities for each line type

- Follows the classical three-round counting method

Two interpretation approaches:

1. Energy-based: Focusing purely on trigram interactions and yin/yang flows

2. Traditional: Incorporating Judgement, Image, and Line texts from the Zhouyi

Questions for the community:

- What are your thoughts on digital simulation of traditional methods?

- How do you feel about AI-assisted interpretation alongside traditional texts?

- Has anyone else experimented with dual interpretation systems?

*This is a personal project born from my own I Ching journey and inspired by my father's interest. Not intended to replace traditional methods, just exploring different ways to engage with the oracle.*

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Interpreting the I Ching is a complex task. The simplest part is tossing the coins. To find the meaning of a hexagram, one must delve deeply into the inquiry and interpret the hexagram and any changing lines, which each carry specific implications that need to be synthesized into the resulting transformed hexagram.

This process can be challenging, especially when trying to understand the text in its original form, which often appears straightforward but is difficult to decode authentically.

Each hexagram has six potential changing lines, each with its distinct significance. For instance, in hexagram 21, changing line 1 mentions "feet in stocks; toes disappear," a phrase whose historical and cultural context may be obscure or irrelevant to modern readers.

To address these challenges, I've compiled all the original I Ching commentary into a database and developed a reading or consultation tool. This tool simplifies finding the appropriate hexagram and understanding the original commentary for the hexagram and its changing lines.

I am also training the TLC AI to offer interpretations that are caring, neutral, and as true to the original as possible, to provide users with coherent answers to their questions. This feature is being internally tested and when available, will be also sharing here.

The ritual / reading tool is not yet public, but if you are interested, members of this group can log in with the ID 1111 and password 2222. url is TLCZen.com.

Please share your feedback and suggestions. Thank you. 谢谢！