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Probably not the first to come up with this
Abstaining from politics as much as possible, here’s the case:
First there is the likely possibility that he is in fact Castro’s son ( https://medium.com/@leibowitt/of-course-fidel-castro-is-justin-trudeaus-dad-nobody-has-debunked-anything-4db6fc8a9042). Though somewhat forgotten now, Castro was analogous to a larger than life hero. A random group of idealistic 20 year olds, with a vanishingly small number of men (literally a few hundreds), managed to take over an entire country and liberate its people from a corrupt and exploitative dictatorship. Not only that, but they became the focal point of geopolitics and the entire world in the 60s. The actions of this group of 20 random young people almost led to a nuclear war. And now, the idea that this world leader might have sired a bastard in a secret tryst, who was raised as the son of another world leader, and who later became himself the leader of his state because of his name, is just got-levels of plot insanity.
Add to this his time in office. Regardless of your own political stance on the issue, there’s no question that open immigration became deeply unpopular during the last few years. Trudeau, in a typical GoT move of political folly, stubbornly refuses the will of popular opinion, and causes a normally liberal leaning country to overwhelmingly turn against his party and perhaps doom their political chances for the near future. The idealism, willful deafness to what others are saying vs political consequences is pure GoT.
Again, Im trying to refrain from politics, and theres definitely a good chance he isn’t actually Castro’s son. But if it’s true then I just find this entire thing fascinating.
Did the writers and producers actually greenlight Alicent turning to Grand Maester Orwyle for smuggling her through a siege blockade so that she could secretly meet Rhaenyra, so that she could agree to sacrifice her children in exchange for running away?
What sort of metal do they make the "Smuggling" Maester chain out of?
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Nearly 16 years ago, back in May 2009, weary fans of ASOIAF were already well into waiting for GRRM to finish the series that he had begun nearly twenty years earlier. During this time, Neil Gaiman, then a highly respected author of fantasy himself, wrote a now-infamous Blog post that has become known as "George RR Martin Is Not Your Bitch." It is available here: https://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html
Neil Gaiman has no concept of consent, contracts, expectations, or entitlement because as we've recently learned, he's a vicious piece of shit who systematically abuses and rapes vulnerable women treating his home like a rape dungeon with his own child present. Given what we now know, I'd like to address Gaiman and his arguments directly.
Gaiman basically has two main arguments. First, Gaiman's central thesis is when you buy a book, you get one book. You don't get a contract to get a whole series. Second, Gaiman makes a practical argument that you can't rush the creative process. Both of these points rely on unspoken assumptions that spring forth from his diseased mind, which, ironically, is the most entitlement of all.
As to the first point, that book said "Book One of A Song of Ice and Fire." That means you are buying a fraction of a whole, and that whole is the series. There is an implied promise with an author who sells you a series, that you will eventually get the entire series. Whether you want to call that a contract or not, it's deceptive advertising and it's someone we rely on. More directly it could be seen as a sort of promissory estoppel in legal terms. It's a promise we rely on when we get emotionally invested in the story. Not giving a shit about what other people signed up for, and not even attempting to understand the perspective of the fans, however, is par for the course for a piece of shit rapist.
Second, lack of creative drive is no excuse. GRRM's problem, by his own admission, is more of a problem of disorganization than lack of writing intangibles. He said he got stuck with a plot issue, he solved it like a decade ago, and now he has a team of fans who keep track of his characters who are spiraling out of control. Who is to blame for losing control of his own story and over-expanding the scope? GRRM. He has numerous options available to fix this problem, because he is a professional. Gaiman's view that creative work is somehow this lofty unattainable ideal that excuses bad behavior is no surprise, considering he is a piece of shit rapist.
So in conclusion, Neil Gaiman is a piece of shit rapist, GRRM is our bitch, get us the next fucking book so we don't suffer with Dumbfuck and Dumbshit's destruction of the story being the only ending we ever get.
Don't get me wrong, I hated with all my heart the last seasons, no need to put back that knife in a wound that never closed.
But I need to say here that I loved everything they've done in the first three seasons. Yes they chopped some arcs. Yes they deleted or modified some scenes. And yes they added some very weird unnecessary details.
But they were geniuses to cinematographic story telling and chose the perfect actors for each roles. Like every reader, they had their own vision of the characters, places, characterization. And I really don't mind the changes they've done.
They also gave me the opportunity to discover the books and even tho I'm not a great reader, I really enjoyed the 4 all of them !
Passion and love drove all their decisions and they did their best to represent on screen something they enjoyed dearly in their mind.
If you ever worked on something you love dearly, you know that even after 12 months or 24 months, it becomes impossible to have your day 1 passion. So I can tolerate the lack of quality in the last years. Especially considering they worked on it for 8+ years.
I simply wished they would have given their places to some other dreamers !
I also need to add I don't know the details of the making of the earlier seasons. And you may conjure names of talented people that carried the project... The end result is that D&D were in charge and they saw, understood and accepted exterior ideas - if there were any - and that takes a lot of work on your own ego to overcome your own selfish vision of a literature masterpiece.
So anyway, thanks David & Dan for what you brought to the world. I really think making people dream and believe in a story is one of the most wonderful thing a human can achieve in his lifetime. Good work
Bronn was willing to kill babies at mother's teat for a right price.
And it's understandable that bronn wasn't comfortable in fighting the mountain one to one but why didn't tyrion just asked him to assassinate him in his sleep like poison him, put an arrow in his thick head or cut his throat in his sleep. Tyrionw was supposed to be the smartest character in the room then why didn't he purposed this simple fooking idea