The whole power up seems like one giant unending piece of plot armor and now with the current power scales it seems irrelevant. Also can Vegeta presumably do it now since he can go beyond that level?

Also who was training with Goku that allowed him to unlock this ability yet vegeta who trained with the highest tech available at bulmas house was not able to achieve it. Then suddenly gotenks can do it?

The actual transformation is trash too. Long hair, no eyebrows that shit is ass. SSJ4 was cool as fuck in GT even tho we know that’s not canon

Imagine atleast their base form fight during the scene, they could show off their original fighting styles in the most purest form possible.

Vegeta showing Saiyan style combat, all the skills he learn from being soldier since he was a baby.

while Goku show off his original roots of being a martial artist, I know he's not a master in terns of knowledge like master roshi is, but I could imagine he atleast either knows/heard about certain techniques we never would never seen in canon from his time with master roshi, that he would use.

And essentially bring back how he used to fight/who he used to fight as a kid, in his current day, like maybe midway he suddenly used the drunken fist from that time he fought Jackie chun.

Hey does anyone know the name of a sprite animation where dragon ball AF goku is training with bardock and shows him SSJ 1-5 and explains them all I haven’t seen it in probably a decade and I’m wondering if it ever actually existed or if I’m having a fever dream😂😂😂

Was watching this on the orange bricks and thought the sound was cool

Now I know it isn't cannon, but if this movie takes place post buu saga, then why are goku and vegeta dead? Can someone please explain?

So I was thinking and wondered if it would be possible if goku or vegeta could make a wish to shenron to have their tails back. I think that would be such an interesting thing to see and a good way to possibly bring back ssj4

It was both shocking and funny to learn that Trunks was their son, but if you want to dig deeper than that it seems like an unlikely scenario.

How did their relationship get started during those 3 years before the Androids?

During the Android Saga, Vegeta was still insufferable and barely seemed to care for his family. Obviously he was not even married to Bulma at this time and they didn't even seem to be in love or anything. It is only after the battle with Cell that he chills out and accepts being a family man.

He just wanted to be a bit taller, I know it’s out of character for him to ask, and up to good chance if Goku believed him or not. But I think it’s hilarious that this may have been a thought that crossed his mind while taking rage-fueled haymakers for an hour straight.

Am I wrong but I remember multiple times of characters talking to each other mentally in the anime, was this filler? I think I remember it happening alot on Namek with Goku and Krillin and Piccolo. I remember Piccolo mentally speaking to the Z fighters when he confronted Android 19. I think it was in the old Broly movie too, but I cant find any videos? Am I tripping?

Hear me out before you respond, please. The Sayian race has been victims of Frieza's family until the end of the planet Vegeta. King Vegeta had to follow orders for the planet's safety, Vegeta followed orders for his Father's Safety, and Raditz was also... just following orders. Being a slave to Frieza is all they knew. Vegeta's evil tactics were purely of Frieza's influence and it took years of being on earth for Vegeta to heal from that and become to understand who he really is when there's nothing to do. This redemption arc happened to the Prince of all Sayians and his past was forgiven. Why not let that same benefit come to the rest of the sayians that died? Return Planet Vegeta and it's people (similar to Namek) and allow them to remember freedom. The natural timeline in a different universe allowed Sayians to become the Universe's Police. So allow the possibility of the same in the main universe. To canonically test this, bring back Raditz as the guinea pig. With the entire race of Sayian's revival on this chance, can Raditz become of use to the Universe? Can it be proven to the gods and allowed by Zeno? Flash forward to a successful test and the Sayians become a policing force. One of the Planets that needs policing is one ruled by Cooler. Utilizing New Planet Vegeta police force as a deterrent against the frieza force... and as a natural way to introduce Movie villains into the main story. (Investigation of vegetation consuming all lifeforms per planet, Bounty of Exiled Namekian, report of Odd colored Dragonballs, etc.)

So, I’m pretty much done with watching Dragon Ball Z Kai, and I was wondering what episodes were worth going back to the original release to check out for, like. Any extra content they add or stuff they elaborate on about certain characters. In particular, I was maybe hoping to see more of Future Trunks and things related to his timeline. I also really wanna learn about Future Gohan, but Kai doesn’t touch on most of that. If there are any episodes pertaining to them, or even just good episodes that are worth checking out in general, filler or not, I’d love suggestions.

I've been trying to look into this but I haven't been able to find anything

GT was a trip, Super didn’t grab me. Thinking about starting Daima and I’m just trying to get the timeline straight

i like how the hair colour turned out. when i coloured it, it looked too dark-yellow but after it dried it became more bright, which i prefer. the hands could be bigger. i could have made the orange gi more detailed with shadows and the shirt blue, not black; added a background and yellow sparkles but i became tired. i think i wont add that, because i could ruin it.

i was told the head and body porportions dont fit together, but i dont see it.

what do you think? :)

So far, I've read the first 2 arcs on DB and I transitioned to the show at the beginning of the Piccolo arc. I'm around episode 110 now. I've heard most DBZ fans skipped DB, so to anyone who watched DB first, how was the transition to DBZ? Was it disappointing at first or was it an improvement off the bat?

I hate using the DB wiki because it contains informations that's not canon (or at the least hasn't been confirmed to be canon) and it makes the pages bloated and too long when I'm trying to search for one specific piece of information. Why is the Wiki constructed like this? Just because something comes from an officially licensed product or doesn't conflict with actually canon information doesn't mean it's canon

I have this dbz capsule videogame where you would attach a character to the top so you could play as them and play against the saiyans in the saiyan saga ( it was a timed videogame)? Mine doesn't work and the goku has been ripped of the chip 😅

Just finished reading the manga:)

I didn't have green so I had to find another color as an alternative

Is hearing Colleen voice kid goku 🤢

https://www.ign.com/articles/voice-actor-toru-furuya-resigns-from-one-piece-following-affair-scandal While not out right stated, it could mean the role of Yamcha getting recasted. This come off a scandal that included him having an extramarital affair with a fan in which he admitted to hitting her.