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Random Facts from S1 Declassified

If you haven't finished S1, there are spoilers below so read at your own risk.

If you're like me and a nerd that enjoys random tidbits of info, then this is for you. I recently got my hands on a digital copy of the book and wanted to share some of the fun facts from the Season 1 Declassified book. Some of this is more commonly known, but some less so.

Maybe I'll do this for S2, S3 and S4, if people enjoy it enough.

POTENTIAL SPOILERS BELOW

-Melinda May's original name was supposed to be Althea Rice, this was changed when Ming-Na Wen was cast (for obvious reasons). She also had only 2 weeks to prepare for and learn the action sequences in the pilot - she'd hoped to have a year of physical preparation.

-S1A was slow on purpose because they wanted to construct the show to audiences who weren't familiar with the Marvel universe, especially considering they were airing on a network. Also, they had to build this interest while building the puzzle pieces for the big reveal, all while limited in the pieces they could use and things they could reveal.

-They knew they wanted Mike Peterson to become Deathlok from the start, so they wanted to show how we was as a person at the start, to try to preserve his humanity and showcase his journey - he is a man who does his best to avoid becoming a monster, but fails.

-The bus set was built so that you could stand on one end of the set and see all the way to the other side. They had to design the sleeping quarters, common area, kitchen and ops center around this requirement.

-The pilot was shot in 15 days

-The kiosk that Mike falls into and breaks in the pilot, took way more time and effort than they thought it would.

-Kill the fishtank was ad-libbed by Clark Gregg. The cameo in the episode was shot on set, while some of the production was in Peru filming for 1x02.

-For 1x03, they built a rotating room that could turn 360 degrees. They bolted down most furnishings and added in whatever else was needed, using CGI. They felt this approach was best to showcase the changes in gravity.

-Backscatter scenes were shot with people in red morphsuits, wearing clear raincoats (to simulate the look of clothes). This includes May's fight with Amador, the Bus kids trapped in the van and all the people Ward looks at in backscatter during his undercover op.

-Like Chloe Bennet, Ruth Negga (who plays Raina) also auditioned for the role of Simmons.

-Elizabeth Henstridge was really nervous about the fire extinguisher scene in FZZT and practiced all day... Iain De Caestecker would later enlist the help of makeup team to create a bruise on the back of his neck to prank her. He feigned injury for the next day and Elizabeth fell for it entirely.

-The chapel from 1x08 was built entirely on stage when they realized they wouldn't be able to hook up stunt equipment in any of the chapels they scouted.

-The shot of the machine messing with Coulson's brain in 1x11 was meant to show that Coulson was not a clone, android or LMD (which was a popular theory then).

-Chloe Bennet was banned from driving the golf carts on the studio lot, because of her poor driving record. She also stalled the Lamborghini in 1x11 during rehearsal, but the actual driving scenes went off without incident.

-1x12 is supposed to parallel Fitz and Donnie Gill. Where they were both vulnerable, isolated and prone to manipulation, Simmons and her friendship drew him out of his shell, while Donnie was taken advantage of by Seth. They wanted to show that the line between being a hero and villain is thin and that Simmons' friendship made a big difference in Fitz's life.

-In a cut sequence from 1x12, Ward tells Skye that he shook Captain America's hand. The Wall of Valor was also originally supposed to have a tribute to Steve Rogers/Captain America.

-The scene in 1x13 where Skye tries to get help after getting shot was hard to film because there was a very loud Christmas parade going on nearby, distracting cast and crew.

-In 1x16, the scene where the team tries to capture Deathlok was initially meant to be set in an abandoned shopping mall. They moved to an abandoned racetrack instead, but found that it was still in use. Horses and their jockeys could be seen in the background of the shots where Fitz would be talking about how the racetrack was shut down months ago, cracking up the cast and crew.

-While they knew before production began that Hydra would rise and SHIELD would fall, the show wasn't allowed to talk about it until after CA:TWS premiered. They created the Clairvoyant to build up to 1x17 (when they actually reveal Hydra) without having to talk about Hydra, making it so that the audience would learn about it as Skye, the newest agent, learned about it.

-A core idea of Marvel they tried to keep throughout the season and show, was that if you take someone and put them in the worst possible scenarios that could happen, a hero will rise. That in the darkest hour is when a hero rises.

-1x16 is also where the series officially becomes more serialized in nature, shedding the episodic and procedural type format it had until then.

-Custom artwork was released every week for the last 6 episodes, of which only 100 copies existed for each print.

-1x17's poster features the team in a maze to show the confusion and mistrust among them.

-1x19's shows the division between duty and love. Also the whole light in the darkness thing.

-1x20's shows Skye's internal conflict and pain of having to choose between hurting someone (Ward) or betraying her team.

-1x21's poster is meant to show Ward's struggle and the driving events of his life - the question is which of these events will ultimately end up driving him to make the decisions he does.

-1x22's poster bookends the first season, showing how far the characters have come so far. May and Skye flank Coulson (now his closest and most trusted members of the team), while Ward moves to the far end, beside Skye. He's also the only one overshadowed by the Hydra logo and it's red colour.

-The showrunners knew from the beginning that when Hydra was revealed, someone from the team would either die or turn - the show avoided plots involving double agents up until then, knowing what would happen in TWS.

-It's also the episode where Ward is most honest - it's said that while he did create all these connections while undercover, they did worm into his heart. Just not enough, apparently.

-It's believed that Ward became evil because of Garrett's influences, but that at some point Ward consciously starts making certain choices because he's tied his identity entirely to Garrett. He tries to be a good "son" to Garrett despite all that he's doing to others and so when Garrett dies, Ward is left in an identity crisis. His love for his team and Skye is real, but he's too dedicated to Garrett and instead continues on the wrong path.

-The first time the cast read the script for 1x21 was at the table read. They all found out about Fitzsimmons being dropped in the ocean + Skye having something in common with Raina, together.

-1x22 started filming almost two years after preproduction on the pilot began.

-The drawn plans for the Bus don't actually show a bathroom anywhere on the plane, even though it's assumed there is one.

-The device used in 1x02 and 1x17 to knock out people is called the Thunderstick.

-Coulson's suit is his armour - he doesn't wear black suits or patterned shirts, following his death.

-Ward almost always wears black, whether it be a suit or more tactical outfits.

-May's "combat suit" shows her preference for function over form, as well as her constant alertness. It's inspired by Air Force flightsuits and is meant to highlight her readiness for combat and role as pilot.

-Skye was intentionally dressed to be different from the team - she's the only one who's not an agent (for most of the season) and her clothes reflect her shifting personality and mental state. She wears boots and "sleek" clothing that show how tough she is mentally, while also showing how soft she is Eg. her leather jackets and boots show her "toughness", her preference for flannels and soft coloured shirts and button-ups show her "softness". She also wears brighter colours at the start, progressing to darker colours as the show's tone shifts.

-Fitzsimmons' wardrobe was less structured than everyone else's. Simmons gets feminine elements such as florals and Peter Pan collars, mixed with some masculine elements, such as a tie and blazer. Fitz's and Simmons' looks complement each other, but Fitz has a preference for ties, vests, cardigans and plaids.

-Raina's flower dresses reflect her intentions - her dresses grow darker as her character does.

-The show's main theme was supposed to be memorable, but also represent Coulson as a person.

-Running themes were created for Skye, Ward, May, Coulson, Fitzsimmons and Centipede. Skye's and Mike's themes evolve with their characters - Skye's starts off emotional, sentimental and soft, evolving into a more bittersweet, tragic and heroic tone. Mike's starts off heroic and optimistic, becoming heavy, angsty, distorted and darker towards the end.

-Most show orchestras feature 15-25 players, but SHIELD got between 55-95 players, while most feature films get 85-90 players.

Edits for formatting

8 Comments
2024/03/06
22:33 UTC

12

Imagine we see a Ward variant that is Captain Hydra.

Like in Secret Wars or somathing.

Would you like it?

0 Comments
2024/03/06
06:38 UTC

75

Was Garret correct / telling the truth when he called Ward ‘The best soldier Hydra ever made’

Assuming we don’t include the Winter Soldier as he was made by the US Army and brainwashed instead of trained by Hydra, how accurate do you think that statement was

I struggle to believe it and eek like it was just Gideon manipulating him, but I do wonder. His combat scenes were truly vicious in a season 3, he looked his best, completely unbeatable.

18 Comments
2024/03/06
00:11 UTC

215

What are some scenes that always make you cry?

88 Comments
2024/03/05
06:17 UTC

346

When Ward was revealed to be HYDRA

25 Comments
2024/03/04
18:09 UTC

35

Reco

Finally watched the last season of aos after 3 yearsss.. been busy and also I'm holding myself since they said this is the last season (rewatched s1-s6 before diving to s7 btw) and idunno what to feel.. i love them since 2014 and thank god i found this community, so happy reading posts here.

Also, cam anyone recommend a series for me pleaaase, thankssss

15 Comments
2024/03/03
18:48 UTC

56

How old is Sousa?

How old is Daniel Sousa when him and Daisy started dating?? I’ve seen on the wiki he was born in 1918-1919 and ‘died’ in 1955 which is when the team saved him, and how does this align up with daisys age, i just wanna know the age gap lol thanks

17 Comments
2024/03/03
09:01 UTC

19

Lorelai and Ward

One thing I love about the Lorelai episode is it shows how much of a threat he always was and hints at what his real agenda was the whole time.

5 Comments
2024/03/03
01:30 UTC

85

My first leather jacket

11 Comments
2024/03/02
21:11 UTC

35

What was the point of Ward shaving his beard?

He only had one grown because he had no access to any shaving equipment and once he escaped he just shaved it off, but a while later he just let another one grow out.

6 Comments
2024/03/02
17:18 UTC

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The First villain deke would go up against in the New timeline is a young Obadiah Stane

The death of Howard Stark and his wife along with many shield agents in the chronicom attack leads the New shield to work with the new CEO of stark industries Obadiah Stane to create weapons using Tesseract technology to combat any new alien threats. This becomes a problem when Director Shaw discovers a plan that could start a war with the kree empire. With the help of Wendy Lawson and Howard's son Tony, Deke must stop Stane before it's too late.

What do you think?

2 Comments
2024/03/02
14:57 UTC

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Mack and Deke’s scenes had me dying

When Mack discovered his game and it’s perverted depiction of Daisy and Deke offered 2% of the company in exchange for his silence, and then later it turns out that Mack actually decided to take the deal and even had it extended to 10%🤣🤣

6 Comments
2024/03/02
03:40 UTC

119

ATCU parking protocol

You think everyone is just told “no one can park in the middle spaces”? Is there someone that checks?

10 Comments
2024/03/02
02:47 UTC

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It’s quite a wonder why Ward just chose to be evil

He stated he owed Garrett because he took him out of Juvie. While he may have seen him as a father figure, he was also a shithead with how he left him struggling to survive in the woods for months and forced him to kill his dog. You would think that his time with Coulson’s team could have brought out a better side to him especially when they actually liked him, that it was just a better life than what he went through. Even after Garrett, when Coulson offered him a chance to start over he just turned it down and tortured Bobbi, which cemented how irredeemable he was. He even refused to be apologetic.

17 Comments
2024/03/02
01:42 UTC

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What are your completely irrelevant/small scale pet peeves about the show?

For me, its the fact that Coulson says in s3 that Jemma is from sheffield, but her accent is not a sheffield one.

You could explain this away easily by saying maybe she moved to sheffield as a teen or something, and grew up in northern Britain (closer to what her accent is). But, since this is an american show, to me it kinda just smacks of the writers googling 'places in britain that arent london' so as to not be too cliche with her hometown 🥸

85 Comments
2024/03/01
21:36 UTC

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Dune 2

Anyone else do a (online) deep dive into the franchise's content and realize how appropriate having kyle Maclachlan as daisy's dad is?

Oh, and I forgot about the kid for a bit

5 Comments
2024/03/01
17:03 UTC

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What do you think of this fanfic?

https://archiveofourown.org/works/53593564?view_full_work=true, Hello, just a question, What do you think of this fanfic? Because l think this is the first-ever Red Hood x Agents of SHIELD crossover, and l wonder what you're all thinking(IF you've read it)......Okay, I'm not gonna play the innocent bystander lol, I'm the writer lol, I'm just asking for criticism and how to make it better

3 Comments
2024/02/29
12:42 UTC

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Jemma's relationship with Trip or Will

Discussion: Thoughts on Jemma and Trip as a romantic couple? Do you think they would have lasted and been endgame (if Fitzsimmons wasn't a thing at any point in the show). Personally I'm not sure about Jemma and Trip, how their relationship could have turned out.. We didn't get much one-on-one time with them alone to see how they could have been as a couple.

Same for Jemma and Will, thoughts?

I feel Jemma and Will wouldn't have lasted had they both got back to Earth safely together. Because the way I see it, she ended up with Will because he was literally the only other person on Maveth with her. Sure they had chemistry and the whole 'I'm hope and you're doom' thing. I think they would have dated a few months and drifted apart and then broken up eventually.

But as we see in the normal world, in a practical situation where there are literally millions of men she could choose from to date or be interested in, she always ends up back by Fitz's side and thinks of him even when he's not there, because its him she truly wants instead of others.

27 Comments
2024/02/29
06:23 UTC

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How would Wanda's Hex affect Coulson and Lola?

The rules of the hex are if it's from that time period then it won't be affected but if it isn't from that time period then it will be transformed to something that would make sense for that time period. So how would LMD Chronicom Coulson (Or any Chronicom) and Lola be affected (assuming the time period is the 60s or later)? Lola was built in the 60s but has been heavily modified with flight and machine guns so would it be set back to a normal car? We also must consider things like Howard working on flying cars since the 40s so what else would be deemed passable by the hex? Would a Chronicom built before the 50s be allowed to pass through the hex without being changed? Is based on the caster's perception of the time period or what was happening during time period?

15 Comments
2024/02/29
03:27 UTC

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The Totally Excellent Adventures of Mack and The D

Loved all the 80s references in this episode. I've read several posts online listing all the references but think I found one that was missed. The robots killing Cricket might have been a reference to the Chopping Mall, but that Cricket was the only band member to die reminded me of This is Spinal Tap where the drummer always dies.

2 Comments
2024/02/28
09:00 UTC

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Mack’s nicknames

I love how Mack give nick names to everyone . Turbo , tremor , yo-yo, pebbles . It’s like someone bonding with puppies 😭🥹😂

14 Comments
2024/02/27
22:53 UTC

143

S.H.I.E.L.D Vehicle tribute

My 2008 Volvo XC90. Need a few more details like a PIT bumper. I take it to parades and cons. Since it's my daily driver, it tends to make some drivers nervous 😏

13 Comments
2024/02/27
18:56 UTC

172

I love Kyle MacLachlan

I‘m currently rewatching season 2 and I had forgotten just how much fun Kyle MacLachland‘s portrayal of Cal Johnson is. The intensity he brings to the character and the emotional complexity he gives him are just perfect, imo.

He may play it a little too big for some people, but I just love him in the role.

25 Comments
2024/02/27
12:11 UTC

712

What's a character that you would defend all day, every day?

289 Comments
2024/02/27
06:54 UTC

76

Episode 1 of Marvel's Agents of Shield: The Deke squad. What are your thought?

20 Comments
2024/02/27
00:30 UTC

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Wallpapers of the Bus or Z1

does anyone have links to desktop or mobile wallpapers of exteriors of the Bus Bus or Zephyr one?

If there aren't any Z1 or Bus wallpapers that's fine i understand

Thanks in advance

Edit: Found some HD Bus ones off just by googling it

and a link for HD wallpapers of Z1;

https://gavinwhelan.artstation.com/projects/oOa1Gq

7 Comments
2024/02/26
12:52 UTC

34

What’s everyone? Top 5 episodes and why?

If I had to pick mine it would be

  1. S3E15 Space time my favorite episode of the show I love the way they introduce the visions of the future while still being able to subvert the audience’s expectations with the visions and the stakes. I also love the scene where Fitz explains how time works also if I had to show anyone an episode of the show for the first time it would be this fits well as a one off story with the perfect amount of stakes
  2. S6E6 Inescapable not much to say here Fitzsimmons at their best in such a comedic and emotional way
  3. S7E9 As I Have always Been the humor and writing in this episode is in my opinion some of the best of the show Elizabeth Henstridge actually directed this episode and it’s great. The Enoch death scene is very emotional also this is one of if not my favorite ways of doing a Groundhog Day time loop scenario I’ve ever seen in fiction

4.S4E15 Self Control The audience doesn’t know who to trust along with the characters themselves and and it makes for some fantastic moments in this episode the scenes with Daisy and Simmons are great and the scene with Fitzsimmons stands out to me as it is very emotional and brilliantly acted by Ian De Caestecker and Elizabeth Henstridge the way Fitz tells her it’s his fault and the way he switches to complete emotionless robot is fantastic

  1. S3E10 Maveth/S3E22 Ascension so technically cheating but these ones are completely tied; if you can’t tell S3 is my favorite season and the introduction and send off of hive is fantastic the way Coulson kills Ward instead of leaving him to die unknowingly giving hive a knew body is great. Brett’s acting as ward and hive is unparalleled. I love the ending of this episode where the team returns and there’s no dialogue only the amazing score. Also the death of hive and Lincoln is fantastic I love the way the season teases this and has it play out with no fight just the 2 of them conversing at the end. Lincoln’s final line “They’re only human” gives me chills every time showing the different perspectives of these inhuman characters wanting to help humanity in there own way even though they are no longer human and Coulson’s line “he’s paying for all our mistakes” is a Great way to show the accumulation of everything that happened in the season. Also goes without saying Chloe Bennett’s fantastic performance talking to Lincoln and the way he gets cut off is such a gut punch along with her begging the team to save him is heartbreaking.
21 Comments
2024/02/25
08:23 UTC

18

Episode rewatch

Hey everyone. I really love the show. It's my comfort show when I need to relax and unwind. I've done several rewatches and don't want to do another. So I want to do "Best of". So what are some key episodes? Best acting? What are your favorites?

23 Comments
2024/02/24
17:00 UTC

160

Thought I’d read secret warriors cuz I never have before and I did not expect my man koenig to show up

9 Comments
2024/02/24
12:11 UTC

68

Does anyone else think May and Daisy were wrong when they tried giving Coulson Centipede Serum?

Coulson specifically said he was prepared to die, not that he was in a rush to. He already had one unnatural life extension and didn’t want to go through it again and they were trying to force him to do it against his wishes. Thoughts?

41 Comments
2024/02/23
02:38 UTC

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