/r/AlternateHistory

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The original alternate history subreddit

A subreddit devoted to alternate history, a genre of speculative fiction that deals with history and how it could have gone differently, but not just that! Feel free to post any speculative fiction stuff, off-topic posts, art, whatever.


Rules:

  1. Work must be alternate history. All works must be partially or entirely fictional with a basis in real-world history. However, fantasy and other paranormal or magical content is prohibited.

  2. All content must be original. Do not use another person’s work, and especially do not claim it as your own. Crossposting from other subreddits with a similar purpose (such as r/ImaginaryMaps or r/Vexillology) is allowed, so long as the post abides by our rules.

  3. A post that is not flaired correctly upon or shortly after submission is liable for removal by the moderators.

  4. Low-effort submissions will be removed by the mods. The content considered low-effort includes maps made solely in “map-painting” programs like MapChart, simple Google service edits (like Maps or Earth) without a fairly detailed scenario, and AI generated content. Also, low-quality submissions (i.e. those w/ high pixelation or compression) are liable to be removed. Don't post GIFs of still images. Usage of Imgur or the native Reddit client for image uploads is preferred.

  5. No glorification of authoritarianism or hate speech of any kind. This rule also extends to historical revisionism and genocide/mass killing denialism.

  6. No bad faith posts or comments. The creation of posts or comments which are designed for the sole purpose of baiting users into indulging in political mudslinging is banned.

  7. Upon submission of image posts, please add atleast a paragraph explaining the content being shown. Text prompts cannot be limited to the title and must have additional information in the body.

  8. "What If" questions (What Would, How Would, etc included) may only be posted on Saturdays and Sundays (UTC) and must have full background context on the question being asked along with your thoughts on how the situation or event would unfold. "What If" questions must also be flaired "Question" or it is liable to be removed under Rule 3

  9. Posts based around the world wars are only allowed on Saturday and Sunday (UTC)


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/r/AlternateHistory

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what if the US never joined ww2 and pearl harbor never happended?

kind of a double thing but whatever

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2024/04/02
13:55 UTC

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What if fancy and Spain went to war over a border dispute

Franco-spanish war

Started- January 20th 1994

Ended October 29th 1997

Commanders France- Marshal of France, adélard archambeau

Spanish- captain General, Santiago Castillo

Causes of the war- border skirmishes that lead to 5 French soldiers shooting down a Spanish helicopter killing both pilots

Foreign aid French side- russian peacekeepers,German 5th armored division

Spanish side- Yugoslavia mercenaries,Italian 9th fleet and two American armored division

Lore- after the downing of a Spanish AS532 cougar H215m by a French crotale on the 1st of January within hours of the news braking out the spanish government would demand the 5 solders who operate and fired it. With French president Alexandre Bernard refused saying " any incursion into French territory would be meet with force." After that decree Spain would give France 19 days to hand over the soldiers which France would refuse. On the 20th spanish 3rd infantry along with German leopard 2A4 of the 5th panzer division would cross into French Catalonia and two American tank division on the which would arive on the 9th of February. Meeting heavy resistance at perpignan with the French 523rd rifle division and the 90th tank brigade along with russian peacekeepers su-33s. By nightfall the russian peacekeepers would pull their squadrons back to the carrier and Spain would control the sky for the remainder of the war. With major Pierre Maximilian in charge of the main focus ordering his leclerc main battle tanks to dig in so they would be harder targets to hit along with sending French foreign legionarys behind spanish lines. By April 6th spanish f/a-18s would clash in Russia su-33s over perpignan were the spanish top ace Emiliano Fernández and his squad the águilas luchando ( fighting eagles) with him and two other f-18 covering b-52s that were being sent to hit major Pierre supply line as Emiliano took on captain abakumov and his wingman head on scoring hits on his wingman. With three out of the 8 bombing being shot down by junior Lt Ilya poshka and the rest dropping their bombs which would heavily cripple the French defense. On August 8th the spanish flag would fly over perpignan with captain General Santiago Castillo then ordering his men to March till they have taken Paris. With President Alexandre Bernard ordering all French forces to fall back to the capital and for foreign legion to continue to strike behind enemy lines. On May 19th 1996 as spanish troops and tank made their way to capture the commune of èze in Southeast France they would come under fire from foreign legionarys and French citizens that had taken up arms against the spanish. With three tanks being hit by eryx anti tank missiles from a hidden position and the solders coming under heavy mg and sniper fire. It would take two months for the commune to be taken with only 103 partasin being taken as prison while members of the foreign legionarys fight to the death. From June 27th to September 25th the city Paris would be under heavy fire from artillery and bomber with German pulling out their support and the russian refusing to send any fighter support saying " the war is lost I will not send my men to their deaths." With the loss of the Marshal of France adélard archambeau second in command would send his unconditional surrender of the 156th infantry division with President Alexandre Bernard being ousted by a military coup d'etat. With the war over the spanish would send their demands the return of French Catalonia,French basque regions and other parts of southern France on 5he 29th 1997 the peace treaty of entrez en paix would be singed and the territory being taken the two nations would always be at odds with each other and once again going to war in 2014- 2026.

Casualties French 98,000, 23,000 wounded/ 106 tanks lost, 75 aircraft lost

Spanish 152,000, 67,000 wounded/ 89 tanks lost, 102 aircraft lost

Foreign aid

German- 12,000 dead 3,000 wounded/ 26 tanks lost

Russian- one aircraft lost and one Slava class cruisers crippled with 200 dead and 54 wounded

Yugoslavia mercenaries- 95 aircraft lost 37 dead and 12 wounded

Italian 9th fleet- five durand de la penne class destroyer being Sunk killing 643 sailor and woundeding 396

America- 30,000 dead 8,000 wounded/ 52 tanks lost

0 Comments
2024/04/02
13:51 UTC

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How would the world look like if we still had Women Monarchs in Asia Today ?

1 Comment
2024/04/02
11:21 UTC

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Are there any alternate history sites like abetterworld?

If you’re not familiar abetterworld is basically a site where you can change events in human history. It’s quite basic and only really has events up to 9/11. I was wondering if there’s any sites similar to it but more indepth?

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2024/04/02
10:29 UTC

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Collapse of Austria-Hungary. C. 1908

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2024/04/02
07:24 UTC

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What Ottoman Empire did forced Turkish language in annexed regions?

Ottoman Empire did last 600 years and what if forced Turkish language in this timeline?

2 Comments
2024/04/02
07:13 UTC

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I came up with the name "Republic of the Frontier" for an independent nation comprising the interior of the American west, and I cant decide if thats either a real cool or really stupid name

4 Comments
2024/04/02
03:44 UTC

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Imperial Lifeline - What if there was a third Cold War superpower? Lore in comments.

4 Comments
2024/04/02
03:39 UTC

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What if Iran had a very different modern revolution

In this alternate timeline, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, a pivotal figure in Iran's 1979 Islamic Revolution, dies of a heart attack before he can lead the movement that deposes Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Without Khomeini's charismatic leadership and unifying presence, the revolutionary fervor dissipates, allowing the Shah to maintain a tenuous grip on power.

However, his reign is marked by increased unrest, stemming from widespread dissatisfaction with his autocratic rule and the lavish lifestyle of the royal family amidst the country's economic difficulties. The Shah's attempts at reform and modernization continue but fail to quell the growing discontent. His health deteriorates, and in the early 1980s, he passes away, leaving the throne to his son, who faces even greater challenges.

The new Shah's efforts to stabilize the country are undermined by economic mismanagement and relentless opposition from various factions, including secular intellectuals, disenchanted youth, and underground leftist movements. By the mid-1980s, a well-organized communist coup, covertly backed by the Soviet Union, successfully deposes the Shah's son. The new government, closely aligned with Moscow, immediately begins to suppress religious institutions, aiming to eradicate the influence of Islam from the state and society. This move alienates a significant portion of the population but also secures the regime's power with the backing of the Soviet military and intelligence apparatus.

Leveraging its strategic position and new ideological alignment, Iran becomes a crucial ally for the Soviet Union in the Middle East, particularly as a launching pad for the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. With Iran's logistical and material support, the USSR manages to establish a more stable puppet government in Afghanistan, avoiding the quagmire that historically contributed to its decline. This significant shift leads to a more prolonged Cold War, with the Soviet Union maintaining its power and influence until 2011. The absence of a humiliating defeat in Afghanistan prevents the demoralization and financial strain that contributed to the USSR's collapse.

However, it also means that the radicalization which led to the rise of Al-Qaeda and the subsequent 9/11 attacks never occurs. Instead, Osama bin Laden, disillusioned with the Soviet Union's dominance in the region and its repression of Muslim populations, orchestrates a devastating bombing of a subway in Saint Petersburg in the late 1990s.

This act ignites a fierce insurgency in the Muslim-majority regions within the Soviet Union, leading to a brutal and drawn-out conflict. The central government's heavy-handed response only fuels the rebellion, creating a quagmire that drains resources and further divides the already strained Union. The unrest escalates into a full-blown civil war, with several republics seeking independence.

The combination of internal conflict, economic stagnation, and continued resistance from the West eventually proves too much for the Soviet system to bear. By 2011, the Soviet Union, unable to maintain its grip on power and facing widespread rebellion and international isolation, finally collapses. The end of the USSR brings about a new world order, with the post-Soviet states navigating the complexities of independence and the global community adjusting to the vacuum left by one of the 20th century's superpowers.

Meanwhile, the US never experiences the “peace dividend,” or the end of history exuberance of the 90s and early 2000s, but manages to avoid the quagmires of Iraq and Afghanistan, emerging as a more financially stable but less culturally dominant and far more militarized state.

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2024/04/02
03:29 UTC

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What if the Canadian rebellions of 1837-1838 succeeded?

Made this for fun as part of a novel I’m writing with an author friend of mine. In this universe Vermont never joins the United States, Napoleon escapes to America, and decides to help the Patriote rebels in their struggle for independence against the British. I could go into more detail, if anyone is curious just ask.

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2024/04/02
02:53 UTC

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Challenge: have the 2020 protests result in a revolution within 3 months.

31 Comments
2024/04/02
02:47 UTC

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What are some interesting yet relatively unexplored alt-history scenarios from 1800-2000?

I’ve recently gotten into alt-hist mapping and i’ve almost finished with my second map so now i’m beginning to think about what I should do for my third. Any suggestions?

10 Comments
2024/04/02
02:23 UTC

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In 6000 BC, every single human is turned into a Faunus from RWBY

How would human history develop if by an ASB every single human was turned into a Faunus in 6000 BC?

There are no Grimm, Dust, or Semblances just everyone is now a Faunus. Would the modern would look similar or look totally different?

Bonus: It happens in 1900 AD.

2 Comments
2024/04/02
01:04 UTC

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the myth of "consensual" anti-communism(context in comments)

9 Comments
2024/04/02
00:34 UTC

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What if the Taupō Supervolcano erupted again?

2 Comments
2024/04/02
00:10 UTC

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The Sino Soviet Border dispute ends for once and for all, 1979

16 Comments
2024/04/01
23:22 UTC

57

Time Magazine cover from my Alt Hist TL

Ask any questions you have about my TL!

19 Comments
2024/04/01
23:10 UTC

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What if Colorado was a Jewish state?

83 Comments
2024/04/01
20:47 UTC

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What if Akon City was built?

So, imma be completely honest with y’all, I just found out about this urban project after watching a video about it.

The Question of the day is what would happen if Akon City was built? Would it be a successful urban development? Or would it be a useless vanity project for a morally dubious R&B Artist?

0 Comments
2024/04/01
20:42 UTC

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Ancient borders

So the British decide they will use the ancient claims recorded for the ancestors of each side. Jordan is made a territory of Jordan when the Hashemite reunify with Saudi relatives. Palestine is given Gaza to up to Ashdod. A strip of the Sinai to connect territory to Negev. Territorial boundary at the west of territory of Jordan south of the Dead Sea doesn’t change from our timeline. Lebanon is absorbed in to the state of Syria from a line north east of Beirut. This territory add larger number of Christian and Druze. Because of establishment of a palestinian state in 1949 instead of waiting till the 1980’s to start the process and put it on Israel. During the suez crisis Palestine joins with Israel in a mutual defense back to keep back Arab, saudis and Soviet influence. In 1967 a brief was lasted 4 days. Swift actions again the territory’s of the UAR, Egypt and Syria create buffer zones to keep back the Muslim brother hood raids. Using penal battalions of radical religious follower from the Muslim brother hood in the 1964-1965 round ups after the 1963 Muslim brotherhood uprisings in response to the 1961 unification as the United Arab Republic by Syria and Egypt. I’m 1975 a joint Suez canal alternative route project. 1980 the states of Palestine and republic of Israel unite in to the union of Israel and Palestine. Forming a joint government with separate republics for like Bosnia Herzegovina. Though the Iranian revolution created a new threat. The danger didn’t escalate until Iran began to have the capabilities to reach Israel but don’t reach this capacity till 2009. The UIP- Iran Cold War burns a cold flame to the present day fought through various proxy conflicts.

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2024/04/01
20:28 UTC

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Possible Technological Advancements pre-1933

Hey there y'all! So, I've been dabbling in alternate history for a bit now, and one question that I keep find myself wondering, especially as I'm creating lore for my current project is: what sort of technological advancements could the world have made from the years 1848 to 1933, but didn't; any technologies that could've been made but weren't, didn't work at the time, just weren't feasible at that time, etc.

If y'all wouldn't mind sharing some of these, I'd greatly appreciate it.

1 Comment
2024/04/01
19:57 UTC

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What if the FARC invaded Panama??

Could they take it over ?

18 Comments
2024/04/01
19:20 UTC

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The Co-Dependency of Oregon-Columbia (2022). A timeline where the Oregon territory never stopped being a co-dependency between Canada and the United States.

1 Comment
2024/04/01
19:02 UTC

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What if Operation Sealion succeeded?

Aprils Fools haha :)

0 Comments
2024/04/01
18:57 UTC

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The Axis, but the competency is switched. (1942, at it's peak.)

16 Comments
2024/04/01
18:41 UTC

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What if Rhode Island was flooded?

15 Comments
2024/04/01
18:35 UTC

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