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Alternate History of India Part III

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2025/01/19
10:07 UTC

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What If Alexander the Great never existed.

In this timeline, Alexander was never born. The Greece that Philip II had begun uniting descended into chaos after his death. The Achaemenid Empire capitalized on this instability, employing a divide-and-conquer tactic by supplying rival city-states and inciting them to fight one another. This strategy allowed Persia to conquer all of Greece, except for Sparta. Under Achaemenid rule, Greece was united once again, but the conquest deeply affected Greek culture. While there was no explicit imposition of Zoroastrianism or the Persian language, it is unlikely that any Greek kingdom would have ruled Greece again after the fall of the Achaemenids.

After consolidating Greece, the Achaemenids shifted their focus eastward. A crumbling empire on the eastern frontier, the Nanda Empire, and the rising prominence of Chandragupta Maurya became their new targets. Darius III would have been succeeded by Artaxerxes V (Bessus), who would assist Chandragupta Maurya in conquering the Nanda Empire to gain influence in the Indian subcontinent, providing logistical support to the Mauryan forces.

In this timeline, there would have been no Diadochi period. After the conquest of the Nanda Empire, the Achaemenids would have likely forged an alliance with the Mauryan Empire. The Mauryans would still have expanded into the Deccan Plateau.

Following Bessus's death, the Achaemenid Empire would collapse, leading to the rise of several breakaway kingdoms with Persian royal lineages. These kingdoms would emerge in Greece, Anatolia, Syria, Egypt, and Bactria, creating a Persian version of the Diadochi period.

The real turning point would come during Ashoka’s reign, specifically after the Kalinga War. Ashoka would still convert to Buddhism, but without the Indo-Greek Kingdom in Central Asia, the global spread of Buddhism would be severely limited. While the Achaemenids were secular, their breakaway states likely would not be, as Persian kingdoms often prioritized Zoroastrianism. These states might perceive Buddhism as a foreign religion, hindering its propagation outside the Indian subcontinent.

This scenario creates a butterfly effect: the Mauryan Empire might have lasted longer without the Indo-Greek Kingdom, and a Zoroastrian kingdom in Bactria could have influenced Kanishka the Great, potentially altering his support for Buddhism. As a result, Buddhism might have remained confined to the Indian subcontinent.

In the West, events would have unfolded somewhat similarly. The Roman Empire would still have conquered the Mediterranean kingdoms, but the Punic Wars might have been slightly easier for Rome without a Macedonian kingdom to attack them. Rome would have eventually conquered the eastern Mediterranean Persian kingdoms.

However, the cultural impact on Rome would have been significant. Greece, under prolonged Persian influence, would have lacked the Hellenistic cultural legacy of the Diadochi period. This absence of Greek influence might mean no Greco-Roman paganism. Instead, Rome might have adopted certain Persian practices after conquering the eastern Mediterranean.

This divergence would also affect Christianity. If a Persian Zoroastrian kingdom ruled Jerusalem for a prolonged period, Christianity could have been influenced by Zoroastrianism. The New Testament might have been written in Persian instead of Greek, and Zoroastrianism might even have been recognized as an Abrahamic religion.

Such changes would ripple into the rise of Islam, as Persian influence would shape Arab culture and, consequently, Islam.

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2025/01/19
08:38 UTC

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What if Al Gore was President?

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2025/01/19
07:34 UTC

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If the students at Tiananmen Square were given 2000 M16 rifles and fought with the Chinese soldiers,

In this timeline, the rifles were secretly sent to them, with some of the men trained there. They would protect the protesters and immediately shoot back at the soldiers if they were attacked.

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2025/01/19
04:47 UTC

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What if Donald Trump turned America into a dictatorship in 2017

In 2017 Donald trump made policies to the US government. These policies included:

Absolute control over the US Senate and representatives.

Complete control over the US economy and the US dollar. Arresting and free anyone including all US politicians.

Media and posters will be controlled completely to show anything Donald Trump's likes and anything that Donald Trump doesn't like will be removed and whoever make it arrested.

Donald Trump will have complete control of who's elected or not and Donald Trump will have complete control over the Democrat party meaning he can remove any member of the Democrat party from the public eye and their position will be removed and replaced by a Republican or a conservative.

These policies that Donald Trump try to enact were met with immediate backlash from not only politicians of both the Republican party and the Democrat party a lot of civilians even included Donald Trump supporters win against Donald Trump too trying a big march on the White House it failed.

On July 4th 2017 The policies were enacted immediately millions of Americans were scared for the future of their country.

Americans across the United States recording YouTube videos went viral on the internet showing multiple footage of the public signing of these policies now becoming the the 28th amendment is signed on the US Capitol building outside in front of millions of Americans The crowd was mad flowing Molotov cocktails and even trying to break into the US Capitol building it was so bad that just a few hours later the US national guard arrive to contain the millions of Americans The results ended up with hundreds to thousands of Americans dead when the US national guard decided to open fire on the protesters.

the 28th amendment stated added additional policies US national guard and the military will be controlled by Donald Trump and any representatives overseas will be also under Donald Trump's control. when the 28th amendment was signed fireworks and celebration happened with Donald Trump supporters who were so supportive of Donald Trump that they did not realize how bad the impact it could have on their country however when the announcements of this was played on multiple sirens and TVs millions of Americans on YouTube panic now America was under a dictatorship just a few hours later YouTube headquarters in San Bruno, California was raided by the US national guard Susan Wojcicki was arrested All of YouTube employees were arrested too the YouTube servers were hijacked and now YouTube was under the complete control of Donald Trump.

It's now December 25th 2017 ever since the beginning of the dictatorship back in July millions of Americans were suppressed had the limited freedom of speech and had lost complex human rights children were fed propaganda by Donald Trump the mothers and the fathers could do nothing about it they would be the next generation under Donald Trump's control mini Americans were hoping for the Christmas holidays to bring hope and joy to America during the dark times however many parents were arrested for trying to cut down a Christmas tree because Donald Trump had recently outlawed Christmas on December 24th millions of Americans were furious and also sadden children who had experienced Christmas before Donald Trump were crying when they're presents didn't come Donald Trump mean while it was living the best life he had his own private he made billions to the trillions of dollars off taking US politicians money and also because of the US dollar valuation going higher than ever he could make policies at any time under would be no regulation he had also arrested Hillary Clinton and any enemies he had Hillary Clinton had gained popularity after Donald Trump made these policies Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump's enemies were executed Donald Trump was feeling good he feel like he could do anything in life however other countries were using this dictatorship in America exploited this

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2025/01/19
03:54 UTC

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The shattered crescent (what if the republic of Turkey was never established)

(Note I came up with this from the top of my head)

1919-1920 The year is 1919 the war is over the Ottoman Empire has been shattered and humiliated, reduced to a pocket in northern Anatolia the Turks are hungry, angry, and feeling nationalistic. The country mourns as Mustafa Kemal attaturk has been martyred at gollipoli. The young Turks are deposed by the British, enver pasha flees to Central Asia and many officers are trialed for crimes against humanity. Sultan mehmed the V stepped down and his brother mehmed the IV took the throne serving as a mere figurehead while the British chose a grand vizier loyal to them. They had chosen Felix woods pasha, A British born ottoman admiral who became grand vizier, but this title meant nothing his power was restricted by the British and the Greeks, as Greeks entered the agean coasts and paraded in izmer the Turks rebelled, nationalist groups took control of most of the nation and the ottomans and British desperately put them down in 1920 the ottoman civil war would end, and the Turks would follow extreme isolationism.

1930-1945 The ottomans throughout the 20s and early 30s remained a loyal puppet to the British they didn't fight back they didn't rebel, up until the Great Depression, the British investments the Turks so desperately relied on stopped flowing the economy once thought to have been rising started a massive collapse, food shortages followed and hunger riots insued among the chaos remnants of the Turkish nationalists couped the government, Felix woods pasha was assasinated and the Turkish nationalists took power. This time instead of creating the republic of Turkey they established a dictatorship with the grand vizier at the center of politics. The new government would blame Christian's for their loss and many Christian minorities would face heavy oppression, mass immigration to French Syria or Greece followed, the new ottoman state has broken free from Britain's chains. And the British to busy with their own economies crises didn't care about a bunch of weak nationalists and definitely wouldn't go to war because of it, but the ottomans were just getting started, they hit up the newly formed USSR under Stalin and created an agreement to invade Armenia from both sides, the British would hopefully back down not wanting to risk a war with the Soviets. The plan was flawless. Turkish troops entered eastern Anatolia in 1935 and so did Stalin red army what followed was a massive revenge spree over the Armenians, massive genocides and massacres and ethnic cleaning would plague the Armenian countryside and in early 1936 Yerevan would fall to red army soldiers. According to the treaty the ottomans would gain everything from trobzon to the kars province while the Soviets would gain Yerevan and the surrounding territorys. The Turkish nationalists began to look for Allie's and they found one in Italy, grand vizier refet pasha would visit Mussolini and Mussolini would visit Ankara (Constantinople was set up an international mandate) the two Mediterranean nations would form an alliance together and split up their spheres of influence and claims in the Mediterranean. Hitler not wanting to miss out on the new ally visited refet pasha in Ankara in the summer of 1936 refet pasha would then visit Berlin, the 3 nationalist powers have been building their strength and when Hitler invaded Poland Italy and the ottomans joined in

The ottomans began their military campaign by marching into Constantinople, the city left under defended due to the British concerns being elsewhere took the city almost immediately. In the south the ottomans began a campaign in Kurdistan continuing their reign of terror (less then the Armenians since the Kurds were Muslim) the British would began to send troops to protect the Middle East and during the phony war both sides kinda stood their.

During hitlers invasion of France the Turks saw the opportunity to occupy Syria before the British could, they raced to the city defeating a French garrison in Adana,allepo, and eventually reaching Damascus the British would launch a counter attack but would ultimately fail to make much gains due to the ottomans intrenched positions and little supply for the British, The rest of the middle eastern campaign would remain a stalemate. Across the peninsula Mussolinis invasion of Greece went ahead and the ottomans pounced on them, they took back Smyrna and advanced to western Thrace, the Italians fumbling horribly needed German support and when Greece fell the ottomans gained control of Smyrna,adrionople, the agean islands and western Thrace. Through 1938 to 1941 the ottomans made impressive gains for their size and economic standing, but operation Barbarossa would change all that

When Germany invaded the Soviets the ottomans dream of a unified turan was so close and launched their own invasion into the mountains, Stalin not expecting an invasion was pushed far FAR back the ottomans Incircled the unorganized troops red soldiers, but the cold rugged terrain taking a toll on both sides, the battle of tiblis saw most of the caucasuian forces army destroyed and the ottomans began a march on Baku, the march to Baku however was a complete failure with the cold now setting in and Soviet reinforcements pouring in destroyed most of the ottomans invasion force, the ottomans had to retreat to the defendable mountains of Georgia and Armenia while they waited for Moscow to fall, but Moscow never fell and in 1943 their lines began to crack, as Soviet troops advanced into Armenia and Georgia the ottomans were left on the run and now with america in the war ottoman morale was plummeting, the Germans had to waste valuable resources to defend their Balkan flank as the ottoman forces were pushed farther and farther back. The British seeing an opportunity launched a much needed counter offensive in Syria, the tired war torn ottoman troops were pushed to the outskirts of Anatolia, meanwhile an invasion fleet was set to hit Constantinople, in 1945 a few months before Germany's surrender the Turks fought to the last man to the last peice of land and officially was split by the allies

Cold War 1945-1991

Once the war was over the Allie's made a plan to divide the ottomans, Armenia would become a Soviet ssr Kurdistan would be a Soviet puppet while Anatolia would become the new ottoman federation, the sultan would keep his throne while the grand vizier would be elected by the people as a proper democracy was established. Throughout the Cold War the ottomans would be a very important ally holding Istanbul (they thought taking it away would make the ottomans hateful of the allies) completely blocking off Soviets in the Black Sea but becides that the ottomans would be pretty relaxed as war criminals in ww2 were put on trial and the Turkish economy began to rise the Turks seemed to be going in the right direction. In 1991 as the Soviets fell the Turks would be a member of the new world order, being a nato ally and EU member.

Modern day The ottoman federation in the modern day would be a constitutional monarchy holding most of Anatolia Istanbul but losing land in Kurdistan and t kars province. They would be western ally and leader of the world Turkic organization. Their economy would be decent with a mid but rising economy.

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2025/01/19
02:59 UTC

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The Revolutions of 1968: What if the Protests became Revolutions? (Part 1)

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2025/01/19
00:22 UTC

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What if Armenia became schizophrenia?

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2025/01/19
00:09 UTC

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THE BLACK CURTAIN - LORE IN COMMENTS (and an unfinished map!)

THE BLACK CURTAIN Germany Europe, after the atrocities of World War One. Everyone was left in shock, and Germany in shambles. In our timeline, Germany never recovered from the economic crisis that led World War One. In this timeline however, this goes completely different. During World War One, Hitler dies in war. Thus, never becoming a prominent figure in German politics. Other politicians step into his place. People like Walter Rethenau step into prominent roles in German politics. Which leads to a much more moderate, democratic Germany.

United States – Anglic Domain Now the United States. Let’s take a look at the gilded age. You wouldn’t be dumb if you thought that the US was going to have a full-blown revolution. The only reason the gilded age didn’t speak a revolution is due to people like the progressives, and Roosevelt. In this timeline though. The progressives aren’t a prominent party. But how? By getting rid of Roosevelt. Roosevelt was the primary kickstarter to the progressive party. So how would you get rid of Roosevelt? McKinley. Like me explain. September 14, 1901, Buffalo, NY. The day and location McKinley was shot, and assassinated. In our timeline, the person who assassinated McKinley was quite lucky. So, it’s not impossible to think that McKinley could’ve just not have been killed. Let’s say the assassin just doesn’t get a good shot. And Mckinley survives. Leading him to run another presidency. But why can’t Roosevelt run in 1904? At the time vice presidency was kind of a dead-end job. So, Roosevelt is kind of screwed. And Roosevelt fades from history as just a random vice president. So, with the progressives never come into power. And see never prominent. No economic reforms are put into place. And McKinley only adds water to the grease fire that is the Gilded age. The common man is looking up to more extremist leaders. The gilded age continues for another 20 years. With republicans voting conservatives, and democrats voting moderate. It’s the mid 1920s and things are still terrible. If not worse. Fascist parties pop up. Inspired by Mussolini, and the desperation for a better future in the US. Communist parties also pop up in the north. Inspired by the Bolshevik revolution. Californians and Texans are calling for secession as the entire country is in a downward spiral. Eventually, the inevitable end comes. The US’s government falls, and four main factions spread. The communists in the north, i.e., the Midwest, northern Rockies, etc. The American-Style fascists reside in the south and east coast. Which take control of Washington DC, New York, and many other metropolitan areas. And then there’s the unaligned texan secessionists, and the Californian secessionists. Eventually the Fascists sweep the Texan and Californian secessionists. Then then slowly make a march into the communists. Brutal guerrilla warfare ensues in the Rockies. But eventually, the fascists win in 1932. With Charles Lindbergh becoming the very first president of the Anglic Domain. The British Empire prepares troops at Canada’s southern border. Preparing for conflict. And and conflict did indeed happen. The Anglic Domain prepared troops and implemented an attack on the Dominion of Canada. The British, with there own fascist movements. Took their chance and rose up. Britain is now fighting a two sided war with there own fascists revolutionaries. And a fascist Anglic Domain. The war ends in 1942 with a puppeted fascist British government. And the Canadian Dominion is absorbed into the Anglic Domain. Including multiple oceanic dominions also being absorbed into the Anglic Domain. Like Australia, New Zealand, Malaya, North Borneo, Sarawak. And others. Eventually, Britain agrees to form a “federation” with the Anglic Domain in 1943. (Which is actually just Britain becoming another state of Anglic Domain.)

Alliances Despite the now incredibly totalitarian government taking over most English speaking countries. The Anglic Domain sought out new allies. These allies being… Italy, Japan, Persia/Iran, and some observer states like Finland. The alliance came to be known as the Oil and Steel Community. The name comes from the two original founders of the alliance, the AD (Anglic Domain), and Irans main materials the two traded with each other. The Oil and Steel Community was founded in 1946. With Italy joining in 1947 and Japan joining in 1951.

British Government in Exile After the resulting win of the AD, the British Government fled to South Africa. Where the government continued to struggle holding onto its British identity. Most people fled to South Africa after the war, but many others also fled to India. A British minority remains in India to this day because of it. The event was known as “The British Migrant Crisis”. Over 200,000 Brits reside in south India. And is one of the many recognized minorities in India. However, in South Africa, there is over 5,000,000 Brit’s. And up until 19XX was the ruling class of South Africa. As the British were desperately trying to keep their control over the country.

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2025/01/18
22:53 UTC

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Too avoid being invaded by the United States, Israel becomes the 51st state of the Union on April 15th, 1968.

Disclaimer: I know how sensitive people can be this is an alternate timeline where the attack on the USS Liberty was not a mistake. In our timeline it was a mistake. Also the attack claimed dozens of lives while in this alternate timeline the attack killed 100s because it was deliberate.

Israel is the 51st state of the United States. It joined the Union on April 15th, 1968 after intense diplomacy. The attack on the USS Liberty claimed over 200 lives, hence the US was forced to take drastic options. The evidence was overwhelming and the American public were crying out for vengeance.

Israel was given a choice become a US State or be invaded and razed to the ground, and its politicians arrested for war crimes for killing innocent Americans.

The US Navy blockades Israel for almost half a year. Arab countries are having mixed feelings about the situation. For one, they would love to see Israel get destroyed if diplomacy fails. But if Israel becomes a US State, then attacking Israel would be attacking the US making it impossible to ever achieve their goals.

Religious Sites are preserved after they are designated as National Parks. Especially the famous attractions for practitioners of Abrahamic faiths.

Due to separation of church and state, things got complicated with the Temple Mount being a national park. A compromise was made to seal off large sections of the Temple Mount to preserve its sanctity. Only National Park employees are allowed there to clean and maintain the premises. Special permits are required for anyone from the public to attend the sealed off sections. They are also vetted to make sure they have respect & knowledge of Ancient Laws to ensure the area is not disrespected when visiting.

The Temple Mount is also privately owned, which may seem as a contradiction to it being Federal Land. This is because the compromise acknowledges that when the time to build the Temple comes, there would be legal obstacles with it solely being Federal Land.

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2025/01/18
16:26 UTC

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What if the three albanian Pashaliks united.

Albanian Federated State.

a what if about albania, a world where the three pashaliks could have gained independence.

first of all, what was a pashalik? They are villayets governed by one family, over time the pashalik of Shkodra and the pashalik of Janina managed to obtain a de facto independence, facing the Ottomans.

but in this alternate world, the two families instead of continuing to war, have united in a sort of federation to gain independence. but how? in this world the pasha of scutari, who was getting closer to the west and to christianity, stopped fighting venice and the montenegrin tribes, looking for support, an ally, a key against the ottoman enemy, to the south instead the pashalik of janina could count on the great relationship that existed between albanians and greeks at the time.

With Napoleon's rise to power, the French supported the creation of an Albanian state as an anti-Ottoman force, however occupying a precious area of land for the control of the Adriatic.

with the end of the Napoleonic wars the Albanian state was declared illegal, and the Ottomans began a long war to defeat it, they managed to shrink the Albanian territory by a lot, but following the local resistance and the tensions that were developing in the Balkans, the Ottomans decided not to complete the operation, retreating before they could reach the capital (the de facto capitals were Shkoder, Janina and Berat, de Iure was Kruje).

NOTES: -Korça would have been used as a French military base during the Napoleonic Wars -The territory on the map refers to the period of maximum expansion, not to the post-Napoleon situation -Many of the edges are geographical, they are bordered by mountains and rivers

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2025/01/18
10:21 UTC

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What if? "New Germany" in Texas (New Westfalia/Neeweschtfalen) - CONTINUED

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2025/01/18
09:11 UTC

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Alternate Cold war between Weimar Germany and The USA

Lore(heavily inspired by loredad's stresa series):

Keep in mind this is NOT meant to be realistic in any way,i did this for fun and also forgive any misspelling

Interwar years: in 1919 president Wilson Germany was allowed to perform a Plebescite in Austria in wether or not It Wanted to Join Germany under The conditions that Germany drops any potential claims on The sudetenland and It suceeded and it was annexed to Germany in The treaty of Versailles and this would cause paranoia of a German Invasion among The italians since South Tyrol contained Germans and It was thought that Germany would use The Germans in South Tyrol as a excuse to invade Italy and this would help spread The "mutilated victory" narrative in Italy and to France who was still paranoid about German resurgence and thought The Austrian plebescite was rigged by The Germans and austria's ascension to Germany as giving a way to Germany causing conflict once again and French people would be further enraged by The america's insistance The France repay war Loans whilst also supporting Germany unwillingness to pay France The reconstruction of devastated territories in northern France as provided by Versailles and this combined with The chaotic state of The French parliament was a fertile ground for revanchist sentiment and extremist ideologies particularly Fascism and after The 6 February 1934 riots France would become a fascist dictatorship under The Fourth Republic and It would Ally Itself with Mussolini's Italy and Form The Latin League,Meanwhile The German Republic would gradually stabilize Itself,The Ascension of Austria into Germany and The dawes plan Made many somewhat content with Germany's post war situation and after The failed Beer hall putsch in Bavaria Key figures of The NSDAP such as Adolf Hitler and Hermann Goering ended up getting sentenced to life in prison and after a Raid in The party's headquarters The party was disbanded and The roaring 20s Drew on Britain and Germany got closer and after The 1934 coup in France and the Formation of The Latin League formed Their on block:The Saxon Allies,from here on things don't change too much from OTL Italy invades Ethiopia,Spanish Civil war happens and Franco still Wins It(but contrary to project stresa Franco doesn't Join The Latin League),appeasement happens,Britain and Germany secretly rearm,Japan invades china

World War 2: Much like in Project stresa yugoslavia is The 'czechoslovakia' of this Timeline getting partitioned by Italy,Hungary,Bulgaria and Albania,Italy gains The lands in The coast promised to them by The treaty of london,Albania gets Kosovo,Bulgaria gets Macedonia and Hungary gets Backa and baranja,after that The Italians invade Albania and exert pressure on yugoslavia to Join The latin League which They do but a pro-saxon Allied coup happens(Just like OTL) and yugoslavia gets invades Britain and Germany mobilize in support of yugoslavia and allow yugoslavia to Join The Saxon allies and Germany moved troops to Austria and The rhineland Android was The perfect casus Beli as Italy and France declared war on Germany for violating Versailles and Britain would Join this war on The side of The Germans,Yugoslavia would fall but Partisan operations would begin tying down Italian and French divisions while The yugoslavian Government and king went into exile in The UK,Croatia and Montenegro would become a Italian puppets and Serbia Would Go to France since France Wanted to explore Serbia to fuel Their war machine;Italy would get into contact with Austrian Nationalists and promise them a independent state If They fought together with The Latin League and They would mount a operation to try and capture Austria but since It's Italy were talking about It didn't went that well and thanks to The alps only managing to capture some parts of southern Austria,Britain would France would try to invade The saarland and The rhine primarly to capture The saarland's coal reserves and would suceed capturing The saarland and The rhine but The German army which Had been preparing ever since The 1934 coup made defenses in Baden and in The banks of The rhine and blew up Key Bridges and stabilized The Frontline;in The meantime Italy and France would promise Hungary that If They joined The latin Axis They would gains burgenland,slovakia and Transilvania and Hungary would join The latin Axis,with The help of The hungarians Italy would managd to arrive at The gates of vienna but would be stopped by It's German defenders;In 1940 The Soviet Union would invade Poland and Finland now that The capitalists and fascists were fighting eachother this was a chance to spread The revolution and reclaim The territories Lost in The polish Soviet war the Saxon Allies diplomats would wait and see The war play out before deciding;after Hungary joined The latin Axis The First nation to react was Romania,after hungary's Ascension into The latin Axis Romania know They were The next to be partitioned all with latin Axis approval,in The First stages of WW2 ion antenescu's pro-latin Axis Government would maintain Romania neutral but would continously cooperate with Paris and Rome and king Carol II would dismiss antenescu and appoint The pro-saxon Allied Georgy taterescu and Romania would declare It's support for Poland and would join The Second polish-soviet war on The side of poland after this The polish were included in The Saxon Allies and czechoslovakia also joined due to hungarians claims on their land and The concern that an Austrian state would claim the sudetenland;in The meantime The Italians tried to seize The Suez with a joint Attack from lybia and French syria but The British troops under Bernard montegomery and a small German Force under The desert Fox(AKA erwin Rommel) would halt This offensive and while i'm talking about Africa Free France was formed and took over French Equatorial Africa;in The eastern front The soviets were not prepared for The inclusion of Romania,czechoslovakian and German forces defending The polish and Made advances into ukraine and Belarus The Saxon Allies would arm ukrainian and belarussian collaborators to fight against The soviets(The baltic countries joined against The soviets aswell) and They would get grande Duke Vladimir krillovich to be russia's New tsar in a constitutional monarchy,after The Romania's Ascension to The Saxon Allies and Invasion of The soviets a insurgency began by The iron guard suported by The latin Axis and Romanian government made preparations to Go into exile If necessary;in The Far east anglo-indian soldiers occupied French indochina and Japan continues Their war with china and Began to Negotiate with The latin Axis to Join them and in december 7th 1941 pearl Harbor happens and thus America joins The war against The latin Axis and lend lease starts pouring into Germany and Britain Japan invades indochina and The rest of southeast asia Just like in OTL and this drags The Netherlands into The war against The latin Axis;America and Britain realize operation torch and with The fall of Africa to Free France Germany would take Their Colonies of Cameroon and togoland back;The Italians would invade greece but It would Go Just as badly as OTL and French troops would have to come in and sabe Italy and together with assitance from bulgaria Greece fell and The government went into exile,in The meantime The Germans managed to reclaim The entirely of Austria and parts of the rhineland,The Americans start winning against The japanese in The pacific and together with The Royal navy and German uboats They secure The North atlantic and Begin The Invasion of sicily and southern italy combined with The German advance in Austria,Italy surrenders and The civil war happens and this cuts off The latin Axis from The balkans leadsing to The occupation of Hungary by German forces and The loss of The iron guard in The Romanian civil war and the complete loss of The balkans,now there was only France,Japan and The Soviets,The pacific war want mostly The same,in 1944 The First atomic bomb was used but not by The Americans but by The germans against The Soviets in The bombing of Stalingrad and this combined with The threats of more nukes Made The soviets Government flee to The east to try and continue The fight but The Americans invaded Siberia and installed a Republic

Post-war: Italy was originally going to be mostly as otl with The excepting that Germany annex South Tyrol but after The communists wont The elections in 1948 The American and Germans overthrew Their Government and Italy was split between The pro-German Republic in The North and The pro-american Monarchy in The south,Japan was The same as in OTL,Russia got split in Two with a constitutional monarchy under Tsar krillovich allying with germany and a Republic in The Far east allying Itself with The Americans and France got The same treatment with The North allying with germany and The South allying with America

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Why do so many people accuse Monsiuer Z of being Alt right?

I’ve seen people accuse him of Nazism, racism, sexism, and more, I’m not trying to start a debate but, I’ve seen afew examples of bias bleed into his work, but that’s about it and it’s all been anti communist retoric, so why is he so often accused of these things? Thanks to anyone who can respectfully respond :)

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The Lemurs's Eld: A Thorough Evolutionary History!

Hails! I'm glad to at last present to you my most updated version of my The Lemurs's Eld alternative Madagascar history as my first post in this underreddit. Forgive the lack of drawings for I ain't a skilled sightish crafter; and if some of ye could contribute with drawings about this setting of mine, then kindly do so; 'twould gladden me.

(The first link has outdated lore, but the way the first lemurs, inlemuriform primates, and hyaenodonts reach Madagascar; where, when and how the primate clades arise, and their African settlings are still canonic today. Ye can also read and/or upvote this present writ at r/HardSpecEvo, r/SpeculativeEvolution, and r/Worldbuilding.)

Arising and Early Evolution:

  • Arising: The Marutinidae lineage arose roughly 41.000.000 of years ago in the mid Eocene (from 47.300.000 of years ago until 38.000.000 of years ago), arising from a small, tree-dwelling lemur kind called Marutius Primigenius, which was the first “proto-metatarsigrade lemur”.
  • Key Innovation: The first key innovation was a slight forward shift of the foramen magnum, setting the stage for the evolution of an obligate upright posture.
  • Early Adaptations: Early belongers of the lineage were highly tree-dwelling, showing adaptations for upright clinging and leaping, inning lengthened hindlimbs and opposable footish thumbs and lave of the toes, which were kept throughout all the lineage's history.
  • Competition with the Adapiforms: The Adapiformēs suborder's tocome in Madagascar about 45.000.000 of years ago made a competition for the resources and the ecologic niches since the lemurs's tocome roughly 43.000.000 of years ago. This early competitive pressure spurred the Marutinidae's founding belongers towards a more land-dwelling lifestyle, for fellow lemurs and the adapiform primates already took the specialist tree-dweller niches.

Sway of the Eocene-Oligocene Transition:

  • Weatherish Selftweaking: The Eocene-Oligocene transition, happening roughly 33.9 million years ago, greatly swayed the environment, leading to the savannas's growth and the woodlands's shrinking.
  • Sharding of the Dwellings: The savannas's patchy spreading made a sharded dwelling, driving the evolution of sundry adaptations within the Marutinidae lineage, inning the development of twofeeted locomotion.
  • Hunter Pressure: The hyenodont hunters's tocome roughly 40.000.000 of years ago posed a great threat, forcing the Marutinidae to come up with effective defense mechanisms, such as running and leaping away, stealthy movements, band shrieks, and later, with the Pyrolemur's fire honing about 34.000.000 years ago, lit torches and wooden spears.

Evolution of Upright Twofeeted Metatarsigradity:

  • Tree-dwelling roots: The first adaptations for upright clinging and leaping (femoral necks at roughly a 50° angle, great femoral heads, reinforced pelvis, long thighs, valgus knees, and a forwarded foramen magnum) provided the foundation for the evolution of obligate upright twofeeted locomotion.
  • Key adaptations: The gradual unfolding over 6 millions of years of a growingly bowly pelvis with growing room for the glutes, (itself growingly looking much like an Ardipithecus Ramidus pelvis but better adapted for leaping owing to the already being reinforced pelvic floor bones with greater tendonal attachment spots), a metatarsigrade posture, a longer femoral neck, a wavy vertebral column, and a greater valgus knees angle were key in their overliving at their fares between and in the woodlands for they enabled them to warn their own kind about hunters and better flee to the trees's soundness if 'twas possible.
  • Grounds for such adaptations: The aforesaid environmental pressures, including competition with other primates and the threat of predation, made the lineage evolve the aforesaid metatarsigrade stance over 6 millions of years, with the first 2 genera being semiplantigrade. As time went on, their shins got progressively shorter and their metatarsal length was making up for it, with the Achilles tendon being attached progressively higher.
  • Time from the “proto-metatarsigrade” lemurs until the obligate sapient Danuvilemur genus: roughly 15.000.000 of years.
  • Lot of genera and sublineages: 11; and 3, respectively.

Social and Cultural Development:

  • Early Societies: The early sitheships were little and wandering, with a strong highlight on sitheshippish cohesion and cooperation.
  • Predator Defense: The unyielding threat of being hunted down by the hyenodonts fostered the unfolding of a strong warrior folkway, with a highlight on fight weaning, early warning networks, and collective defense.
  • Technologic Innewing: The need to overlive and thrive in a daring environment drove the development of innewing technologies, inning tools for hunting, gathering, and defense.
  • Settling Patterns: Early settlings were likely at spots with natural defenses, such as the cave networks in the Ankarana Massif.
  • Tilth: The development of sustainable tilthish weanings, inning the cultivation of mushrooms and the making of short run cultivation skills, played a key role in their long run overliving.

Chatting and Folkway:

  • Smellish Chatting: The strong hinging on smell for chatting shaped their social interactions, leading to the development of a rich and nuanced network of smellish speaking.
  • Lack of Feelingish Tears: The highlight on smellish chatting and other shapes of feelingish expression wholly hindered the evolutionary pressures to inn the tears in their feelingish breadth.
  • Folkwayish Expression: Their culture, their social builds, and their technologic innovations were definitively swayed by their one of a kind environment.

The Danuvilemur linage's key hallmarks:

  • Bodily hallmarks:

    • Upright posture
    • 7 lumbar vertebras
    • Long vertebras throughout the whole back, enabling the neck to twist 300°, right like the indris.
    • Metatarsigrade gait
    • Long, slender limbs
    • Opposable toes for grasping tree trunks, boughs, and handling tools
    • Sturdy bonebuild
    • Great brain, but proportionally smaller than an adult early Homo Erectus, with the first 2 genera having a brain size proportionally the same as a sifaka or an indri.
  • Social Behaving:

    • Highly social and cooperative.
    • Manifold chatting network (smellish, stevenish, and gestural).
    • Strong highlight on fellowship defense
  • Cultural hallmarks of the Pyrolemur (roughly 36000000 of years ago) and afterfollowing genera, such as the Danuvilemur genus (31000000 of years ago):

    • Skilled toolmakers and hunters
    • Developed a one of a kind tilthish network, inning mushroom harvesting and/or cultivation.
    • Rich folkwayish wones, inning gleecraft, sightish craft, and taletelling.
    • One of a kind network of chatting and feelingish expression.

Average Looks of the Danuvilemur Genus:

  • They look as if they were melding between a ruffed lemur, a sifaka and an indri, anent their face, torso and thighs, with the distinguishing shortened shins and long metatarsals that their sublineage (the main one) has had since roughly 4.000.000 of years earlier.

The Halfbreeding's Role in the Danuvilemur Lineage's Evolution:

The Danuvilemur lineage, with its sundry array of forefatherly genera, gives a gripping fall conning in the manifold interplay between interbreeding, competition, and outdying. While the starting focus was on the development of a onefold, dominant lineage, the possibility of interbreeding between nighly akin genera ekes a layer of manifoldness and unforetellenliness to their evolutionary yorelore.

The Halfbreeding's Wouldbe Consequences:

  • Halfbreed's Strength and Competition: Interbreeding could have resulted in “halfbreed's strength”, where offspring inherited beneficial hallmarks from both kennends (parents), leading to greater fitness and competitive upsides. These halfbred individuals might have outcompeted both kennendish shapes, leading to their gradual displacement and eventual extinction.

  • Introgression and Genetic Swamping: The chaffering of genes through interbreeding could have led to the introgression of genetic material from one genus into another. This could have diluted the forefatherly shapes's one of a kind genetic makeup, wouldbely wearing their genetic distinctiveness and helping their decline.

  • Reproductive Interference: Interbreeding could have disrupted the reproductive isolation mechanisms of the parental shapes, leading to the begetting of halfbred offspring with lessened fertility or viability. This could weaken both parental lineages and greaten the outdying risk.

  • Arising of New Lineages: In some cases, such as those between two genera that have sundered grom each other right ago, interbreeding could have led to the arising of wholly new lineages with one of a kind knittings of hallmarks. These new halfbred lineages might have been better adapted to their environment, outcompeting both parental shapes and driving them to outdying.

  • The Danuvilemur Genus's Arising:

The Danuvilemur genus itself arose as an outcome of such interbreeding happenings. It spells a halfbred lineage that knitted the best hallmarks of sundry yester genera, outcoming in a highly successful and adaptable genus.

  • Assimilation and the Forefatherly Shapes's Outdying:

The assimilation process, where forefatherly shapes are melded into a more successful halfbred lineage's gene pool, could have played a weighty role in the Danuvilemur lineage's evolution. As halfbred individuals became meaner (meaner = more common) and more successful, they might have halfbred with belongers of the nighest forefatherly lineages relative to their own respective genera, little by little diluting the genetic distinctiveness of the first shapes and ending up leading to their death as a kind.

  • Social and Cultural Implications:

Halfbreeding between unlike sets could have significant social and cultural implications. It could lead to the chaffering of thoughts, technologies, and cultural weanings, outcoming in a sundrier and more dynamic sitheship. But it could also make social clashes between them.

Ending:

Interbreeding between full nighly akin genera was a mighty evolutionary strength within the Danuvilemur lineage. It played a key role in shaping their genetic sundriness, their social build, and their overall evolutionary path. While it presented both hardships and opportunities, halfbreeding ended up helping to the arising of a highly successful and adaptable lineage, capable of thriving in a daring and ever selftweaking environment. This setting highlights the manifold and dynamic kind of evolutionary processes and the unforetellenly aftermaths of halfbreeding between nighly akin kinds. It demonstrates how the interplay between genetic chaffering, competition, and environmental pressures can drive weighty evolutionary shifts. I hope this comprehensive overview provides you all with a deeper understanding of the role of interbreeding in the Danuvilemur lineage's evolution.

Have ye any other doubts or would ye like to explore specific aspects of their evolution, social build, or culture more thoroughly? I'm ever eager to keep going with this gripping moot.

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2025/01/17
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What If Sassanid Empire won Roman Persian war 603 AD - 628 AD and Lakhmid kingdom united Arabs.

In this timeline, the Sassanid Empire never conquered the Lakhmid Kingdom. Instead, they took a route from the kingdom, and the Lakhmid Kingdom, in support of the Sassanid Persia, invaded the Ghassanid Empire, leading to the expansion of the Lakhmid Empire. Although Khosrow II was aware of the increasing Lakhmid influence, he didn’t take any action to counter it.

The initial invasion remains the same, but in this timeline, Khosrow II did not underestimate Heraclius and focused more on Anatolia than on Egypt in 615 AD. With the alliance of the Avars and Slavs in the Balkans, the Sassanid Empire would have managed to destroy Constantinople and conquered Anatolia and Constantinople itself.

The Avars would have controlled the Balkans, including Greece, leading to the fall of the Byzantine Empire.

After the fall of Byzantium, the Sassanids would have conquered Egypt, and Carthage would have become a vassal state of the Sassanian Empire.

Meanwhile, the Lakhmid Kingdom would have stayed independent and dominated most of the Arab tribes, having already conquered the Ghassanid Empire and becoming the King of all Arabs. Though a Persian vassal, the Lakhmid Kingdom would still have kept an eye on the growing influence of Mecca and Medina.

During the Battle of Badr, the Lakhmids would have supported the Quraysh and managed to defeat the Muslims. Afterward, the Lakhmids would have deposed the Quraysh and conquered Mecca. Following the consolidation of Mecca, the Lakhmids would have used their Pagan allies in Medina to conquer it as well.

With Sassanid support and the Lakhmid superiority, the Lakhmids would have succeeded in uniting almost all of Arabia under their control, with the rest of the tribes being Lakhmid allies.

By the late 620sKhosrow II would have grown suspicious of the rising Lakhmid importance and would have deposed the Lakhmid king, integrating the entire Lakhmid Kingdom into the Sassanid Empire.

There would have been no war with the Western Turks due to the early collapse of Byzantium.

Khosrow II would not have been assassinated due to his victory, and Shahrbaraz would have succeeded him.

The Sassanian Civil War would not have occurred.

If the Sassanian Empire managed to settle down and its politics remained stable, then the reign of Shahrbaraz could be referred to as the Persian Renaissance or the Persian Golden Age.

How would this impact the world?

Significantly. The early fall of Byzantium would likely have been seen by Christians in Europe as a religious threat, but it’s unclear how they would have responded. 

Islam would not have spread beyond Mecca and Medina due to Sassanian rule, which would cause a butterfly effect so profound that predicting how the world would look now becomes nearly impossible.

The inventions that occurred during the Islamic Golden Age would still have happened, but under the auspices of Zoroastrian Persians instead of Muslims.

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