The interview was done in 2015 so he had been in prison for forty years at that point. He went into detail about giving his life over to God and spoke about how he has come to terms with the fact that he will be in jail for the rest of his life and how he doesnt mind if it gives peace to the victim’s families. He said he doesnt even show up to parole anymore. He seems so genuine and at peace with himself. I dont understand how he is the same person who did the things he did and taunted the police. I cant help but feel like it is such a waste. He had the potential to be someone who really contribute to the world. Idk how he was capable of such evil. Is he schizophrenic? What do you think about Son of Sam and his preaching of religion now?

The one thing I'm always reminded about when I hear about Corll is his victim Willard "Rusty" Branch Jr. He was murdered sometime in 1972 (some sources say February 1972, but reports from the medical examiner say November 1972).

It can be argued that Branch possibly suffered one of the worst deaths; a bag containing a served penis and testicles was found along with his body in Corll's boat storage shed. (Note: I don't think the police at the scene realized that they had uncovered a bag containing the penis until the autopsy; it is not mentioned in the Houston PD reports until August 13, when Dr. Joe called and informed HPD about the discovery)

It is actually not known if this occured before or after Branch was shot in the head; Dr. Joseph Jachimczyk, who did the autospy of Branch and the other victims, said in a 1975 newspaper article that Branch's body was so decomposed that they could not determinate if the mutilation had occured before or after death; but it's likely it occured before knowing what we know about Corll. Also, Branch was the only victim where they could confirm that sexual mutilation had occured. All of the other victims that still had a penis (that weren't decomposed) were intact according to autopsy reports, but I could be wrong on this. But they only found one bag containing a served penis. In fact the updated 1985 report on Branch says this: "It is likely these anatomic specimens do not belong to this body". I am not sure why they said that: I assume if they had DNA back then they could determine if it was from Branch or not.

Until 1985, Branch's body was simply known as "ML73-3350" or "Unknown #12" (since he was Body 12 in the shed), until he was identified with the help of his sister. It was thought that Branch's body might have been Mark Scott, a known victim whose body has never been found, but is likely to have been buried on High Island Beach, which unfortunately is underwater now, meaning that his body will likely never be found, along with any other possible additional victims.

My questions are, why did Corll do this to him, and only him? I'm wondering from a psychological POV. It is unfortunate that Corll was killed before his crimes were discovered. It would be interesting to hear an interview with him about what he did to his victims and just why, and also see actual justice. I wish Dr. Todd Grande would make a video about Corll but there's not much about him that's known. More is known of course about his accomplices. My theory I guess is that he got some kind of sexual gratification out of seeing Branch suffer as he mutilated him, or he did it so he would have a "trophy".

I've googled pretty hard and I find a lot of stuff from that morning, but I can't find the news snippet where the DJ dedicated that song to the crowd and Ted Bundy.

I felt pretty disturbed by it because I felt like Ted Bundy was an awful human being, but the circus-like atmosphere and putting him to death was almost as strange. Does anyone remember specifically what radio station may have played that song?

I remember grotesquely the crowd cheering as a white hearse left the prison afterward.

I appreciate that people wanted him dead, and I have no sympathy for the man, but the stadium-like atmosphere was pretty macarbre to me, at my age.

It's just that I really cannot hear the Eurythmics version of that song ever after without thinking of Ted Bundy.

Just curious if there was a recording of that transmission and what radio station it might have been.

Edit: I'm thinking that this was probably a local DJ to the Starke, or North Florida area, so this is probably more of a Florida question than anything else.

I watch a lot of interrogation footage and one that stuck out to me was the interrogation of Russell Williams - A Colonel in the Canadian army who murdered 2 women in 2009 and 2010.

One question the detective asked was if there was any reason that one of his victims, Marie-France Comeau, a coworker at the army base he worked at, would have specifically referenced him in one of her diary entries - to which he says no. This isn't brought up again, and it's clear that he had no prior relationship with her - romantic or otherwise.

Now that may have just been a bullshit question by the detective to see where it takes him, or maybe she really did write about him in her diary. If she did, I wish I knew why.

Are there any small details from cases that YOU would like more information on but have never gotten?

A recent post here asked which type of killer was the scariest. Maybe it's due to consuming so much content on them, but I rarely get "scared" anymore and saw a lot of people voice similar sentiments. If anything, I get angry.

Ed Kemper is the one that stuck with me for the longest and re-pisses me off every time I see him mentioned. It's the audacity of brutally taking lives for nothing but your own sexual lust and self-esteem issues. I know this is the case for many serial killers, but what he enjoyed doing to those girls and his reasoning for it just makes me actually furious. His entire self-righteous demeanor as well, people fall right for it to this day and credit him for being "intelligent" because he managed to act like a normal person when he wasn't mutilating young girls.

How Law Enforcement failed Dahmer's victims is another example.

Do you have cases/killers that make you more angry than scared?

For those who don't know, psychologists have split serial killers into several different groups, all regarding their motives and methods. After researching them all, I've found it kinda difficult to decide which group I think is scariest. What do you guys think? I'll list the options below, just know they get pretty damn sinister:

Lust: These people torture and kill purely because it's what gets them off and they find their victims expendable. That's pretty much their only motive. They generally prefer using weapons that put them in close contact with the victim(Or they'll just use their hands) and often mutilate the bodies after death. They might also engage in other act like cannibalism and necrophilia. Might as well get the grossest one out of the way first, right?

Thrill: These people torture and kill because they enjoy the reactions their victims give them before death. Seeing the victim's fear gives them a high that they find extremely pleasant and addictive. They also prefer close-up methods, like stabbing and choking, but don't get a sexual thrill from their crimes and seem to favor stalking and scaring victims more than actually killing them. There's almost never any signs of mutilation after death.

Comfort: This type commits murder because they have something practical to gain from the target's death. They're usually after money or other assets they can't get otherwise. Unlike the groups above, they take no pleasure from killing and will often stage their crimes to look like accidents, suicides, natural deaths, and pretty much anything that helps them hide from police.

Visionary: This type kills because they believe some kind of higher power is willing them to. They often see their murders as sacrifices and may or may not think the victims are possessed or cursed. Their crimes are typically random and unorganized, with little to no planning or clear pattern regarding victims/methods.

Mission-Oriented: This group kills because they're trying to exterminate certain people, usually a group of people, they think society is better off without. They usually target specific races, religious groups, prostitutes, runaways, vagrants and...well, there's really no shortage for the list of their potential targets. They often have similar methods to Comfort killers in the sense that they don't drag out the killing and stalking process.

Power/Control: This group kills because it makes them feel powerful. They usually come from broken homes with neglectful or abusive parents and battle constant feelings of being inadequate or helpless. Getting to dominate another person to such an extent that they can decide whether that person lives or dies, and decide HOW and WHEN they die, gives them a break from feeling like that. They usually preferr to strangle people, but they're willing to kill by pretty much any means as long as it's direct. They also like keeping trophies from their victims. The trophies can be clothes, jewelry, the victim's ID, or even body parts. Much like Lust killers, there's also a good chance they'll keep and mutilate the victim's carcass.

(Trigger Warning: This write-up contains mentions of CSA

This is also another massive case, one that even got international attention so as always. I encourage your own research in case I got stuff wrong or missed anything. In order to not drag this write-up on for too long I am also excluding some things. I'm not going through every single missing person unless there is compelling enough circumstantial evidence that points to them possibly being one of the aforementioned buried bodies.

Also as explained before in a post on my account. I am working through a backlog of cases, by country A-Z, by continent. So I'll be in Latin America for the next little while uploading Central and South American Cases)

Hugo Ernesto Osorio Chávez was born on February 6, 1970, in Chalchuapa, El Salvador. Very little information on his past seems to be publicly available before the age of 26 beyond having a ninth-grade education and that he married a woman who sold food at a local market and had two children with her. In early 1997 he graduated from The Public Security Academy and became a police officer. His tenure as an officer wouldn't last long at all since on May 21, 2005, his position in the Salvadoran police was terminated after he was found to have committed fraud, and for raping a minor of unknown age. This did not come as too much of a surprise as one of his colleagues described him as having "Sexually aggressive behaviours" and an overall pervert who would stand underneath public staircases to try and peek at women's underwear and leave his phone number in spaces minors were known to frequent in hopes one would call him. After finishing his 5-year prison sentence in 2011, moved to a house in a neighbourhood in Chalchuapa.

He bought two separate homes in this neighbourhood one for himself, and another for his wife and the mother of his two children who he would visit once a week. He also bought a patch of land for himself to build a house on. The purchase of both properties and the land was curious to the neighbours since they didn't know where the money to make the purchases could have come from. Hugo was speculated to have gang connections and was known to work as a "Coyote" to help smuggle people into The United States.

He was known to go out of his way to try and talk to the local girls in the area. These conversations would be of a flirtatious nature even though Hugo was in his 40s by now. Curiously, in spite of this fact, the neighbours described him as a nice person who "minded his own business", he would even invite them all to go on trips and vacations with him which he funded. But not everyone liked Hugo. Others knew him to be a drunk and drug user who got into fights with others which is how some came to describe him as a "brawler"

In August 2012, Hugo was in El Salvador's capital, San Salvador and found himself in contact with a 15-year-old girl. The two met up in person at the parking garage of a shopping center. Hugo said he was from Honduras and owned a Reggaetón band, a genre she was a fan of and wanted to hire her to work in Mexico at one of his other businesses. He offered to work on her hair, buy her clothing and accessories, and so on under the condition that she accompany him to someplace private for sexual favours. The girl's father had reported her missing not long before and the police who were made to be on alert for the missing girl saw her talking with Hugo as they didn't have time to leave the shopping centre parking lot. Hugo was quickly arrested but since the victim kept her silence for years, Hugo faced no charges since there was nothing else to prove he intended on raping the girl so he was released.

One of the girls Hugo was known to "speak" with was a neighbour, 14-year-old Daniela Estefany Villatoro Peña. On October 26, 2018, she was seen at the Santa Isabel Catholic School Center for an event where she would receive her grades. She left the school at 12:00 p.m. when she got a bus back home. She told her friends before leaving that she was going to pick up a cell phone that was being offered to her as a gift. She was last seen wearing black pants and a white blouse. She did not have a boyfriend or any enemies and had no motive to run away. Her family began looking for her and asked all of her teachers and classmates if they had seen her but to no avail. The police investigated in case gang involvement was a factor but by all accounts, it seems nothing was done beyond that.

In July 2020, a man named Douglas Antonio Hernández Recinos brought an underaged relative of his to Hugo's home. According to media reports, this relative, a young female child with a disability had already been sexually assaulted many times prior by Douglas and the purpose of his visit to Hugo's was so he could sexually abuse his relative, all while the neighbours were completely unaware. She ended up escaping and a warrant was issued for Douglas and Hugo's arrest on December 22, 2020, but police for unknown reasons had difficulty finding Hugo while Douglas was on the run. At least presumably, sources are unclear on why they weren't arrested.

24-year-old, Alexis Palomo Lima, a fourth-year medical student lived with his parents in Chalchuapa. His mother, His mother, 57-year-old Mirna Cruz Lima owned a local store which used the money from to help pay for their house. Hugo would soon become a regular customer. During one of his visits to the store, Mirna confided in Hugo that Alexis was going to drop out of school due to their financial situation and their sales taking a hit due to Covid-19. Hugo told Mirna that he had a brother who worked as a "Coyote" and had Alexis brought to the United States for better work and to send money back to his family so they could pay their rent and monthly fee. He was charging 7,000 dollars for this service (El Salvador uses USD as its currency). Immigrating to The US was a dream for Alexis so when heard about this, he hurriedly began planning for the trip with Alexis's grandfather even mortgaging his own house to help him raise the money. Eventually, Hugo agreed to receive the payment over the course of three days.

On May 7, 2021, Hugo went to Mirna's hours after Alexis supposedly left to claim that his smuggling route was intercepted and Alexis had been kidnapped. Hugo though, claimed to know where the kidnappers had taken Alexis and the other migrants and offered to bring her to that location. Alexis's sister, 26-year-old gas station convenience store clerk, martial arts and cosmetology student, Jacquelinne Cristina Palomo Lima stayed behind while her mother followed Hugo. Once Mirna arrived at Hugo's home, the former police officer suddenly began hitting her several times on the head until she was fatally wounded and passed away.

After Mirna did not return, Jacquelinne headed out at 9:30 p.m. to begin looking for her. She had a feeling that something was suspicious about her disappearance and knew where Hugo lived so his home was the first place she looked. Jacquelinne arrived and knocked on the door which was swiftly answered by Hugo. It is not exactly known what happened but Jacquelinee ran out of the home screaming for help while Hugo, armed with a metal pipe began chasing her down the ally his house was adjacent to. This woke up the neighbours who saw what was happened and called the police. The call was received by the 911 call centre in San Salvador. Dispatchers attempted to forward this to any officers in Chalchuapa but a severe thunder, rain and lightning storm had damaged the phone lines not long after the call went through. Eventually, Hugo caught up to Jacquelinne and hit her on the head with the pipe instantly knocking her unconscious where Hugo provided to drag her back to his home.

After not hearing back from Chalchuapa due to the storm, the San Salvador call center attempted to contact the local police through other means or even other nearby police departments, eventually after 30 minutes they finally managed to get a hold of the local police, the only issue was that the callers could not recognize Hugo in the dark and none of the callers knew the number to the house that Jacquelinne was running away from so it took an extra 70 minutes for the police to track down the suspected crime scene when a neighbour came out and pointed them in the direction.

Once they finally arrived at the house, officers immediately noticed blood at the entrance to the home. When they ventured further into the home they discovered Mirna and Jacquelinne's bodies. In the garage, police found the body of a man with cuts to his wrist. The man was Hugo who was still barely alive after attempting suicide and staging the scene to make him look like one of the victims. He was woken up and rushed to a hospital. At the patio, police noticed a freshly dug grave, they dug up the grave which was 3 meters deep and housed two dead bodies. Next to that grave was another freshly dug bit only it was empty and had yet to be filled back in. Other miscellaneous items found were a dental prosthesis and two cell phones. Inside the home were a Santa Muerte figurine, candles and masks The bodies were identified as Alexis and Hugo's brother Carlos Osorio. Hugo was treated and interrogated when he regained consciousness. Seeing that his suicide had failed, he came clean, confessed and told police that he had many more victims.

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Police at the scene

Hugo's arrest.

After hearing this news, the police with the aid of soldiers cordoned off the house and began a very long process of excavating Hugo's yard and the sugarcane field lying fight behind his home. While the police were excavating his property, Hugo also gave them the names of 11 of his accomplices. They were, not including Douglas who was mentioned above, Juan Francisco Zarceño, Juan Alberto Góchez Escobar, José Ernesto Sigüenza Martínez, Henry Aníbal Olivares Perdomo, Nelson Roberto Olivares Perdomo, Lorena Patricia Miranda Vásquez, Ernesto Enrique Ramírez Álvarez, Cindi Gabriela Mendoza Godoy, Ingrid Elizabeth Ramos Moran and Raúl Lisandro Quiñónez Melgar. All of them were arrested except for Raúl who remained on the run as a fugitive. These people consisted of former police officers, soldiers and Coyotes/Human Traffickers and all but 1 of them had criminal records. After police arrested all of them, Hugo changed his mind and accused them of being the murderers, he said that they killed all the people buried on his property and that he was intimidated into letting them use his backyard as a grave site.

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The arrest of Hugo's alleged accomplices

The accomplices

Henry, in particular, was a 55-year-old neighbour of Hugo and was arrested on May 8th, not far from the crime scene for an unrelated offence. The route arresting officers took to escort him to the station went right by Hugo's house where he was helping police with excavations and pointing out the burial sites. He saw Henry being led away and pointed to him, addressing him by name and telling police that 8 months prior he brought a 36-year-old woman and her 9-year-old daughter to his home where he murdered the woman and sexually assaulted her daughter. Hugo positively identified each of them as the other accomplices were brought into a police station.

Within the first few days of the excavation, police came across 8 pits and recovered 14 bodies, mostly women and girls one as young as 2 years old. Most of the remains were skeletal, mixed with the bones belonging to others and needed to be reassembled for DNA testing. The depth at which the graves were dug to indicated that more than one person aided in digging the pits. Due to the situation in El Salvador, many disappearances appear to be unreported so police had to ask those with missing relatives to come forward and even independently of this notice, several relatives of previously unknown missing persons descended upon the property holding pictures and items belonging to their loved ones. Hundreds of them were crowding the outside of the home and police had to let in only a few at a time to see if any of the remaining clothing on the skeletons were intact enough to be identified. On May 11, the police found six more graves. The grave held the bodies of men, women and children aged 2-9. Some were also found in a well and septic tank, A majority of the women had been sexually assaulted. More bodies were found on May 17th. When all was said and done, the final body count ranged from 14 to maybe as high as 40.

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The police harshly criticized the media for sensationalizing the incident with the body count but declined to provide an updated figure. A lead forensic investigator with 30 years of experience was also forced to face disciplinary action for stating "unverified information" when he described the body count as being in the 30s. The man was Israel Ticas, a deeply respected man across the country who had helped retrieve and identify over 725 remains. This caused the police and prosecutors to be heavily criticized for a lack of transparency. Eventually, the police admitted that there were around 30-40 bodies found buried.

One of the first leads to identifying the bodies was 19-year-old Michael Ismael Orantes Orellana, who went missing on April 19, 2020, based on phone calls he was on his way to get a job in another country, and left after being in contact with someone on Facebook who wanted to help him out. According to him he was on his way to Honduras and would then enter go through Nicaragua. Eventually, his mother was turned away because none of the remains matched the characteristics of her son. They never asked her to come forward for DNA testing even though Michael's disappearance fits with Hugo's M.O. Daniela was another strong possible identity as after Hugo's arrest, her family came forward to tell police that Hugo was the man she was supposed to collect the phone from.

Forensic technicians also found bracelets, necklaces, complete sets of women's clothing, school uniforms, shoes, sandals and an ID card belonging to a 4-year-old child. All of these items save for the ID card were openly displayed in hopes those outside the police tape could recognize them. The police questioned his neighbours and relatives, all of whom were completely shocked and they all said that they never saw anything suspicious. No more corpses were found after the first excavation and at the end of the day, only 12 victims were identified. As for the remaining victims, Hugo was no help since he told police he either couldn't remember their names or never knew them to begin with.

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The items found by investigators

One of those identified was an entire family referred to as "The Linares". They were killed at the end of 2020 by him, a taxi driver and a soldier. The first member of the family to be killed was Dania Linares, whom Hugo pinned the blame for onto Ernesto Enrique, the taxi driver. Hugo met with Ernesto, toward the end of 2020 and he told Hugo that he liked Dania. Hugo said that he could connect the two and lent his house to Ernesto while he locked and went to a store to buy food. He returned to find that Ernest had killed Dania.

The other members of the Linares family were referred to as Patricia, Helen, José and G. Another member was former soldier José Ernesto Sigüenza Martínez. He wanted to kill the entire family because he considered the alimony he was being paid for having a child with one of the family members to be too low for his liking and so he would have no obligation or responsibility to care for the child. This child was among the victims. Hugo agreed and let his home be the scene of José Ernesto's family annihilation. The rest of the murders appeared to go in a similar way where if someone wanted to kill somebody, Hugo would be more than happy to let them use his home to kill whomever they wished and bury their bodies on his property.

Another victim was a 16-year-old kiosk worker whom Hugo, together with Henry would visit her shop and offered her a better job. On March 28, 2021, Hugo told her that a new job was ready and that she'd be discussing it with Henry. So she went into the house alone with Henry while Hugo waited outside. After 25 minutes, Hugo came in after hearing screams for help and saw her holding onto a bedroom door while Henry was beating her with an iron.

As for 57-year-old Nelson Roberto Olivares Perdomo, he worked as a dentist and in 2020 brought a woman, likely a patient who was said to be 23 years old and that Nelson was "asking for a chance to be with her". The woman was killed by Nelson and buried in one of the graves in Hugo's house.

Lorena Patricia Miranda Vásquez was accused by Hugo of paying him $300 to kill Carlos Osorio. However, some other sources state that Carlos was killed because Hugo wanted to steal his brother's identity and flee.

Ingrid Elizabeth Ramos Morán allegedly paid Hugo $40 to get her brother intoxicated before killing him.

Eventually, Hugo gave up on trying to pin the blame on his accomplices and confessed and described his M.0 which went back nearly a decade. He mainly used social media with offers of employment or smuggling them into the United States in order to entice them into his home where he would then attack, abuse, rape and later kill them with a stone or metal pipe usually in the presence of two or three more accomplices. The smell was often covered up either by the depth of the graves or even by building a concrete slap over holes.

On January 10, 2022, the police rushed to Osorio's other property he had bought for his wife and began a second extensive excavation. They spent a month before ending the excavation in February after not finding any remains. The mother of Hugo's youngest child, a 6-year-old son, once asked why so many people were digging up his father's yard and she had to lie to him and say they were building a swimming pool which ended up exciting him. Since she was not at the first grave, Daniela's relatives figured she must have been buried at this other house. No bodies were found. Despite their lack of any involvement, Hugo's now ex-wife had to leave her job due to customers recognizing and constantly harassing and insulting her and to this day is still unemployed because no one wanted to hire her due to her ex-husband's actions. The children that she was left to raise on her own also suffer from severe bullying.

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Hugo was put on trial for only the murders of Mirna and Jacquelinne to avoid the hassle of trying him for 40 murders of all the victims, some of whom unidentified. Hugo never stepped foot in the court and the trial began on March 24, 2022, and was held from his prison cell over a video link. On June 10, 2022, The Specialized Sentencing Court for a Life Free of Violence of Santa Ana gave Hugo a sentence of 70 years in prison. The prosecution had asked for 100 years but would not appeal and viewed 70 as good enough. There was no possibility of parole. The court also ordered the authorities and government to assist the relatives of Hugo's victims such as paying them compensation and funding their housing and any mental health care they may seek.

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Hugo during his trial

On November 11, 2022, The First Sentencing Court of Santa Ana gave Hugo an additional 18 years for the rape of Douglas's underage relative mentioned above, bringing his total sentence to 88 years. Douglas was tried together with Hugo for the same crime and was given a sentence of 36 years. Douglas's longer sentence was due to him repeatedly sexually assaulting her on mutable occasions.

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Hugo and Douglas during the second trial

On April 26, 2023, the trial for Hugo's accomplices began except for Raúl who had still yet to be tracked down. On May 8, 2023, the judge found the 9 not guilty and said that there was no evidence pointing toward them playing any role in the murders and mass grave aside from Hugo's word which the judge dismissed as "implausible". It was also pointed out how there were discrepancies between Hugo's account and what seemed to be the extra facts.

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The 9 in court

For example, Juan Francisco Sarceño. Hugo's statement was that on April 13, 2020, Hugo let Francisco Sarceño use his house to sexually assault a woman. The next day Hugo returned to find that "he had gone too far" and killed the woman with Francisco Sarceño having placed a sheet over the body. However, a search of their phone records were unable to pinpoint any times when the two were in contact with each other, nor could they prove that Francisco Sarceño had turned on his phone while at Hugo's house. In fact, According to witnesses, on that day he was seen in a pickup truck driving to a ranch on the beach in Metalío. And his phone records for that day verified that he was in Metalío, giving him an alibi.

Lastly, the judge pointed out how conveniently these accomplices seemed to just fall into the police's and prosecutor's lap. Here is how Hugo identified them and how they came to the police's attention. While Hugo was being processed at the police station, they were all arrested for other minor crimes and once Hugo saw them led into the station he would point them out and accuse them of being his accomplices. The judge felt that Hugo was scapegoating them in an attempt to reduce his sentence. Especially since some of the people Hugo accused do not appear to be on trial. Their families also stood by them and professed their innocence.

The prosecution appealed this decision and so on September 18, 2023, all 9 were made to undergo a retrial. On October 6, 2023, 6 out of the 9 were convicted and got sentences that ranged from 20 to 110 years in prison. The remaining three were found not guilty of any part in the murders but remained in prison due to their gang membership. José Ernesto Sigüenza Martínez was given 110 years in prison for killing his family. Henry Aníbal Olivares Perdomo was given 90 years for the murder of three women, Lorena Patricia Miranda Vásquez was slapped with 30 years, Juan Francisco Sarceño was given 20 years for the single murder of a woman, Ernesto Enrique Ramírez Álvarez was also given 20 years for murdering a single woman and Cindy Gabriela Mendoza Godoy was given 20 years. Ingrid Elizabeth Ramos Morán, Nelson Roberto Olivares Perdomo and Juan Alberto Góchez Escobar were found not guilty. The prosecution considered appealing Juan Alberto, Ingrid and Nelson's acquittal but appeared not to pursue such action. Raúl Lisandro Quiñónez Melgar remained on the run.

Sources (In the comments)

I can’t really seem to find any real info on this and what I do find is contradictory. If I recall there was as scene in ‘The Deliberate Stranger’ (1986 made for TV miniseries starring Mark Harmon as Bundy) in which Bundy was incarcerated again in Colorado after his first escape and ask a fellow inmate which State would most likely give the death penalty and the inmate said Florida. So he escapes again and goes to Florida and kills the sorority girls.

I’m just really curious why he would go there considering how fry happy they were in that state. I think he’d know that.

Anyway if anyone can help I’d appreciate it.

Found out about the case of Angel Maturino Reséndiz AKA the Railroad Killer, who was convicted and executed in Texas for murder but is believed to have killed up to 23 people in both Mexico and the US. It got me thinking about other such cases where a serial killer went on to kill people in two or more countries.

The only other one I know of is Michel Fourniret, who killed up to 12 people in France and Belgium. Can you think of any more?

I am alway stunned at the sheer number of serial killers who were "simultaneously" operating during the two decades going from 1960 to 1980/90 in the usa.

I will try to make a list here and I look forward to the possible explanation, altough the one about many of them being born by fathers who were WWII soldiers kinda makes sense to me.

I think that "internet" - and especially mobile smartphones - "killed" the serial killers. In today's mobility system and public cameras everywhere is virtually impossible not to be traced.

At the same time smartphones and apps and the web in general provide a "legit" outlet for almost all sexual experience and sexual repression is much less existent due to changes in education and morality.

1.     Jerry Brudos

2.     Gerard Schaefer (lesser known to me)

3.     Edmund Kemper

4.     Ted Bundy

5.     John Wayne Gacy

6.     Rodney Alcala

7.     James “Mike” DeBardeleben (lesser known but deadly)

8.     Angelo Buono

9.     Kenneth Bianchi

10. Lawrence Bittaker

11. Roy Norris

12. Dennis Rader (covering three decades)

13. Robert Ben Rhoades (truck stops, also three decades)

14. David Parker Ray (likely active also in the '70)

15. James Mitchell “Mike” DeBardeleben (most reclusive of them all)

16. Joseph James DeAngelo (caught only recently)

17. Dean Corrl

18. Randy Kraft

19. William Bonin

20. Robert Berdella

21. Wayne Williams (atlanta kids)

22- Gary Ridgeway (green river)

23. Leonard Lake (he might have started in the ‘70)

24. Charles Ng (although from the ‘80)

25. Richard Ramirez ('80)

26. Jeffrey Dahmer ('80-'90)

I am sure I have missed many but the number put togheter is quite incredible.

Feek free to add and suggest

If I wont be able to modify the post I will simply add an updated list in comments.

This said I must admit that Netflix biggest let down has been not producing the third season of Mindhunters (the episode that marked the end of the "peak television" period).

Where do professionals who work with serial killers or used to work with serial killers learn their profession? Better question actually where can I learn mire about the psychology of serial killers?

This sounds a bit stupid, but it’s something I’ve always wondered about. Most serial killers are sentenced to hundreds of years in prison. Since they get so much pleasure from killing, and it’s not like their time in prison can get any longer, why don’t they just continue killing in prison? This question obviously doesn’t hold for places where capital punishment is possible.

I am wondering how we got all the information about Richard's childhood.

For some reason I thought he refused to talk about his experiences and feelings (e.g. in one interview he says he doesn't "care to explain" why he "gave up on love and happiness a long time ago"). I know that he was abused by his father, that his cousin was a bad influence to put it mildly and that he had two head injuries and seizures as a child. But I am wondering who told all of these stories and in case he told them himself, when/to who?

I am curious to read about serial killers who’s crimes were only discovered upon their (the killers’) deaths. An obvious example would be someone like Dean Corll, whose crimes were discovered after one of his teenage accomplices turned on him and killed him before calling the police. There is also Leonard Lake, who took a cyanide pill after he and Charles Ng were arrested for a different crime. What are some other examples besides these two?

Edit: spelling error

Was listening to last podcast on the left recent series on herb. They states he had video tapes that he took with him when he fled and committed suicide. Do we know if those tapes were recovered? I cant find an answer googling it

From what I know in some difficult cases, the police would have the assistance from the FBI to solve things. There would be an agent who has experience in sketching the murderer based on the way they murdered people, witnesses, what the victim bodies went through after murdered, the crime scene, things left by the murderer, etc

Thanks for that, we have sketches of serial killers to help solve the case. Like how would they look like, their occupation, behavior in life, with friends, people, etc

However, JTR's case happened at the time when there was no CCTVs, DNA analysis and modern-way investigation. The only source we have is some individuals listed as suspects, bodies left by the murderer, letters claimed to be murderer's, some uncertain eyewitnesses

I'm wondering how would Jack the Ripper look like based on the way modern investigators sketch him. We might be able to identify him somehow, by using the sketch and put them on, compare to the suspects from that past case

First of all, I’m obviously very glad that serial killers are less, because it means less innocent victims, however I am interested in why this is. I completely understand all of the DNA, fingerprint, police advances etc but police don’t close all homicide cases by a long way, there are places in USA like Alaska where I’m surprised dumping grounds don’t exist more. And some people within the population will still likely have serial killer urges. Also, many countries in the world(particularly in Africa, Asia) Not all serial killers are even known. But it feels like the news almost never reports on possible serial killers anymore and there isn’t the same atmosphere that there was e.g. in 1970’s and serial killers are seen as a thing of the past, that’s why people study non-identified and identified ones from previous centuries. Also, people constantly throw around the term ‘active’ which imo is really irritating because it’s very misleading, it just refers to people who are alive rather than still serial killing. I don’t believe serial killers will ever fully stop, they might reduce to a certain point but people will always have ways to outsmart police as well as the urges. How many serial killers do people genuinely think are currently(not literally right this second but I mean like generally e.g this year, this month) either hunting their next victim or killing etc by continent? And do people know of cases of unidentified serial killers who are still killing or hunting for their next victim? Even the FBI suggests that there’s 50 in the hunt or killing at any time just in America, so I’m confused.

Skin lampshades, nipple belt, skull dishwear, what did they do with them after using them as evidence of his crimes?

a serial killer who killed 15 people, mostly women, and during the attacks was reported calling women "pigs" became a religious leader in prison.

https://www.gcnoticias.com.br/geral/conhecido-como-maniaco-da-lanterna-serial-killer-e-condenado-a-62-anos-pela-morte-de-duas-mulheres-em-mt/53939040

I’ve just finished a couple of related books and have to say, or at least provoke some debate of, how their childhoods and the absolute depravity they grew up in is some genuine mitigation for their crimes. Absolute feral families rife with physical, verbal, psychological and sexual abuse. Simply, what chance did they have?

Any responses and theories are welcome.

As you know, we tend to see mass shooters more than serial killers these days, the age has changed and it might continue for a while. But I'm wondering if in the future, whether or not would exist a serial killer who is also a mass shooter. That means the killer kills bunches of people in a short shooting and flees. He returns after a cooling-off period, makes another short shooting, then flees again

This seems impossible since today's technology is too advanced, but it doesn't mean it can't happen. Israel Keyes caused murders, burglaries, arsons, bank robberies from 2001 to 2012 and he was only arrested in his final murder because his murder methods almost left no traces. A serial killer using the same methods as Keyes did could cause a mass shooting and flee, but it's a small possibility

Wesley Brownlee is an example, he's a serial killer in Stockton who committed serial shootings. His shootings aren't counted mass shooting but he fled real quick after doing it, he could've targeted a few more people in that process

Do you know any serial killers who were mass shooters?

To give the parameters of the question, they don't have to have successfully killed anyone, but there was evidence like a manifesto or planning or specific people/groups they targeted indicating that they were or could have become a Serial Killer, before they ultimately picked the wrong person and turns out their potential victim was Concealed Carrying and dealt justice at high velocity?

From what I've come to understand at this point is that he's oftentimes considered a very highly intelligent person by many. Well, that might have been true, if we only focus on his ability to manipulate people, lie and play roles. But most of his practical decisions were so dumb, that it made me seriously think that sometimes he just unplugged his brain...

I can't wrap my head around the fact that he's famous for being some kind of a mastermind criminal and at the same time he got caught, because he was walking around the Lake Sammamish State Park in a broad daylight, while searching for girls to kidnap, telling many potential witnesses his REAL NAME. That hot Sunday afternoon in mid July, when the park was literally full of people, many witnesses had been watching him going from one girl/group of girls to another, saying that he needed help with his boat and introducing himself with: "Hi, I'm Ted.". That's how the most famous serial killer in the world turned the police attention to himself. Until then, he wasn't even on their list of potential suspects.

Don't even get me started with his horrible driving, which led him into getting caught both of the times he escaped from prison; and the fact that he acted as his own lawyer in two different murder cases, which he actually committed. His egocentrism was so enormous that on many occasions it blocked his ability to think. Honestly, I don't think it was his incredible intelligence that made him successful in luring young women so easily, but more it was his superficial boyish charm, his talkativeness and that he was somewhat attractive, which being all combined made him appear as a nice and harmless person.