And somehow this wouldn’t surprise me.

Dimitrios Pagourtzis, the perpetrator of the Sante Fe High School shooting in 2017 has just been deemed incompetent to stand trial once again, for the 7th time.

This got me thinking, how long will the Texas courts wait until competency, and if he just never becomes competent, what would be his outcome?

EDIT: 5 YEARS AGO

Summary: Gabriel Wortman was a 51-year-old denturist in Nova Scotia, Canada. He killed 22 people and injured three over 13 hours. He used a .223 semi-automatic rifle, a Ruger Mini-14 semi-automatic rifle, a .40-caliber Glock 23 Gen 3 pistol, a 9mm Ruger P89 pistol, and a 9mm Smith and Wesson 5946 taken from a victim. I point out the weapons due to almost all but the Glock being illegal in Canada, and the Glock is a restricted weapon. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) were heavily criticized for their response to the shooter, and a public inquiry was launched. A ban on military-grade, assault-style weapons was implemented. However, it is essential to note that Wortman obtained all the guns illegally and through smuggling. Below is the timeline of the shooting, a motive has never been established.

Early Warning Signs: Wortman assaulted a 15-year-old boy in 2001; police investigated Wortman for threatening his parents in 2010, and police received a tip about Wortman's stash of guns and his desire to kill police. The police are also warned about his mental health and recent stress. But it seems no action was taken. Wortman was reported to the RCMP for assaulting his spouse and having illegal firearms in 2013. The spouse dropped the complaint and no further action was taken.

April 18th 2020.

The attack began at Portapique, where Wortman lived with his partner. This community is 130 km or 80.7 miles from the capital, Halifax.

21:00 Wortman attacked his partner in their home. He handcuffed her and forced her to walk to their warehouse barefoot. He threatened to kill her if she escaped. He forced her into the backseat of a replica RCMP cruiser, but she managed to escape through the front window and run off into the woods. Wortman set his house and the warehouse on fire.

22:00 Wortman began his attack on his community by driving to his neighbors, Greg (45) and Jamie Bair's (40) house in the cruiser. He shot and killed Greg on the deck a 40 mm handgun is found next to his head. Jamie told her two children to hide and call the police while barricading a bedroom. Jamie is fatally shot, and Wortman begins to set the house on fire while the children are still hidden.

22:05 Wortman returns to his burning house while his neighbor Lisa McCully (49), who lives across the street, sees the fire and goes to assist.

22:08 Lisa is fatally shot by Wortman in the street when she mistakes him for RCMP responding to the fire. She is found facedown in her yard.

22:10-22:20 Wortman drives to Joy and Peter Bond's house, where he fatally shoots them. They are found in the doorway with the TV on. Next, Wortman goes to Aaron (45), Emily Tuck (17), and Jolene Oliver's (40) house, where he shoots them in the living room with the TV on.

22:15 The Blair children flee the burning house and run next door to the McCullys, where they are let in by the children there and call 911. A third son suggests that Wortman targeted their family first as his father owned rifles and would have been able to stop him.

22:25 Wortman drives to Dawn and Frank Gulenchyn's house, where he fatally shoots them and sets fire to their house. Their bodies are eventually found in the smoldering house. Andrew and Kate MacDonald see the Wortman fire and call 911 while driving up to the property to see what is happening. Wortman drives up next to them and fires two shots, hitting Andrew in the shoulder and grazing his head. The MacDonalds flee in their car. Both survived.

At 22:26, three officers arrive on the scene and enter the neighborhood on foot. They find victims who may have been trying to escape the fires or help others escape them. They cannot locate Wortman and are "overwhelmed," so they request assistance in finding him. Wortman is identified by name, his direction, and the fake cruiser. The 911 calls also talked about the cruiser.

22:30-10:39Wortman drives to Joanne Thomas (late 50s) and John Zahal's (late 60s) house, his next-door neighbors, kills them, and set fire to their house. They are found in the remains of the house.

22:32 The RCMP released a statement on Twitter about a firearms complaint and advised residents of Portapique to stay inside. Police are confused if Wortman has been apprehended and if he is driving the fake cruiser. The police helicopter is out of commission due to maintenance and cannot be used.

22:40 Corrie Ellison is visiting his father and steps outside to see what is happening. Wortman fatally shoots him.

22:45 Wortman drives the cruiser through an exit towards the beach, which is not on maps and was not blocked off by police.

23:10 Wortman drives 26 km or 16 miles east of Portapique to Debert and parks behind a welding shop. He leaves behind police equipment and gun-related items in a ditch.

The RCMP Emergy Response Team (a tactile unit) was brought into Portapique, which had little police presence before them.

April 19th

1:00 The RCMP begins to internally circulate bulletins of Wortman and identify him as armed and dangerous alongside the replica cruiser.

5:45 Wortman leaves Debert and travels 37 km or 23 miles north to Wentworth.

6:30 Wortman's partner leaves the woods and goes to a neighbor's house for help, where she calls the police and tells them about the cruiser. Wortman had smashed her phone earlier. She also confirms he is dressed as an officer and provides photos.

6:35 Wortman enters the home of a couple that he knows, Alanna Jenkins and Sean McLeod, and fatally shoots the couple and their two dogs. He remained in the house for three hours.

8:00 An update containing the new information is supplied to all officers.

8:02 The RCMP officially announced that there is an active shooter

8:44 Officers ask if information about the suspect's replica cruiser will be released to the public.

8:50 Wortman kills Tom Bagley, who was the fire and came to help.

8:54 Wortman is publicly identified.

,9:12 RCMP posts on Twitter and Facebook that Wortman is armed and dangerous. There is no mention of the replica cruiser.

9:30-9:35 Wortman drives past Lillian Campbell, who is out for a walk. He turns the car around and shoots her.

9:40 The RCMP fully grasps that Wortman is still at large and in a replica cruiser.

9:47 Wortman and Cpl. Rodney Peterson drives past each other. Peterson tries to turn around and chase Wortman, but cannot find space.

9:49 Wortman drives into Adam and Carole Fisher's driveway. Despite being dressed as an Officer, they recognize Wortman, arm themselves with a 12-gauge shotgun, and refuse to let him in. Wortman tries to act as if he is involved in his manhunt by yelling his name.

9:51 Wortman drives away.

9:57 Wortman performs a traffic stop on Kristian Beaton, who is pregnant. He fatally shoots her.

9:58 Heather O'Brien pulls over 260 meters or 800 feet away from Kristian. She calls her friend to say she heard a gunshot. Wortman drives up next to her and kills her in her car.

10:17 The RCMP tweet, for the first time, that Wortman impersonates an officer and shares a photo of the replica cruiser. At a shelter for the victims, two officers mistook a management officer for Wortman and opened fire but missed.

10:25 Wortman is seen changing from the uniform to a reflective vest.

10:47 50km or 30 mi away from Debert, Wortman pulls up next to Const. Chad Morrison, who was standing on the road waiting for Const. Heidi Stevenson (23). Wortman shoots Morrison three times. Morrison flees to a paramedic station, where he is found and is transported to a hospital.

10:49 Wortman crashes head-on into Const. Stevenson 500 meters 1600 ft from where he shot Morrison. Stevenson shoots at Wortman, but he shoots and kills her. Wortman takes Stevenson's Smith and Weston and her ammunition.

10:52 Joey Webber, a driver who has stopped to help the crashed cars, is forced into the back of the replica cruiser by Wortman, where he is shot.

10:52-55 Wortman sets his replica cruiser on fire and Stevenson's cruiser. He steals Webber's Ford Escape.

11:06 RCMP announces Wortman's vehicle change.

11:10-11:23 Wortman drives past Gina Goulet's (54) Shubenacadie home; he does a u-turn and parks behind her house. Wortman knew Gina through work as she was also a denturist. Her daughter warned her to keep her doors locked as Wortman knew where she lived. Gina hides in the bathroom but is killed. Wortman steals her Mazda 3 hatchback.

11:24 Wortman pulls into a gas station 92 km 52 mi from Portapique and 40 km 25 mi west of Halifax. An RCMP dog handler and an emergency team member arrive thirty seconds later. Const. Craig Hubley exited the vehicle with his weapon raised, and Const. Ben MacLeod recognizes Wortman. Wortman raises his own pistol to his head as one officer fires 11 rounds and another fires 12. Wortman is struck twice in the head, twice in the neck, seven times in the right arm, once in the left, and 25 wounds to the torso. He is left with 37 wounds.

11:27 Wortman is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot and multiple rounds.

11:40 Police confirm Wortman's death, 13 hours after the damage began.

Wortman's spouse confirmed in a redacted document that Wortman was on his way to Halifax to "get" someone.

this was deleted by mods, sorry mods. i don't know why but I would love to hear people's thoughts on this!!

I was recently reading the Isla Vista Mass Murder Investigative Report, and I realized that rereading this report has allowed for me to see it in a different view, this, of course, has left me curious. Among multiple questions I have (which I will make posts about later), I wondered, what would have happened to Elliot Rodger had he not taken his life?

He was shot at by multiple Sherriff's Deputies who had began to pursue him after he attempted to shoot a woman (who he had said "Hey, what's up?" to before brandishing his gun and attempting to shoot her before narrowly missing) but he was shot in the thigh, leaving a grazing gunshot wound, which the Medical Examiner who performed his autopsy said caused epidermal injuries only. It was obvious that they (the Sheriffs) assumed he was alive, as they cuffed him only to see his blood-soaked head (kind of confused how they wouldn't see his massive gunshot wound???). So, it seems that they would have taken him into custody, so, that raises the question, what if Elliot Rodger hadn't committed suicide? How many life sentences would he be given?

I say life sentences, because I find it very unlikely he would have been put to death. California's history with capital punishment is a complicated one (that I struggle to understand), though in 2006 there was a de-facto mortarium, 2006 was also the last year someone was executed in the state. Though 2 others condemned in California were executed in other states.
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"In the course of this rampage the suspect committed a number of crimes in violation of the California Penal Code. These crimes included six counts of Murder, three counts of Murder under Special Circumstances - Lying in Wait, twenty counts of attempted Murder and multiple lesser offenses."

Six counts of Murder (first-degree)

• Weihan Wang - Roommate of ER - stabbed
• Cheng Yuan Hong - Roommate of ER - stabbed
• George Chen - Friend of Weihan & George -stabbed
• Veronika Elizabeth Weiss - Member of Delta Delta Delta - shot
• Katherine Breann Cooper - Member of Delta Delta Delta - shot
• Christopher Ross Michaels-Martinez - IV Deli Mart Shopper - shot

The sentencing for murder in the first-degree is death, life, or 25 to life, with 25 years being the minimum amount of time the convicted must serve prior to being eligible for parole.

Honestly, I could stop here. At this point, he would be in jail for 6 life sentences, even if he was granted parole on the day marking his 25th year in jail, he would immediately begin to serve the next 25 years. Assuming this continues to happen (he is granted parole after 25 years for each murder) he will remain in jail for 150 years.

150 years (makes parole for each 25 years he serves) OR 6 Life Sentences

Three counts of Murder under Special Circumstances - Lying in Wait

• Weihan Wang - Roommate of ER - stabbed
• Cheng Yuan Hong - Roommate of ER - stabbed
• George Chen - Friend of Weihan & George -stabbed

With the murders of his roommates and their friend, Elliot is now charged with Murder under Special Circumstances - Lying in Wait. This is exactly what it sounds like, he waited for each person to enter the apartment before killing them. In California, Murder under Special Cirumstances encompasses a lot of situations, including hate crimes, evading the police, and others. With the triple charge of Murder Under Special Circumstances, life imprisonment is the minimum they must serve (3 lifetimes), no execution, and no parole eligibility.

3 Life Sentences

Twenty counts of Attempted Murder

• Third sorority girl
• Fleeing IV Deli, strikes man with his car
• Boyfriend at pizza my heart - shot
• Girlfriend at pizza my heart - shot
• Female cyclist - shot
• Woman - attempted to shoot
• Sheriff Deputy - attempted to shoot
• Man 1 - struck with car as he speeds away from cops
• Man 2 - struck with car
• Man 3 - shot
• Male Cyclist- struck with car
• Skateboarder- struck with car
• Pedestrian- struck with car
• Driveway man 1- shot
• Driveway man 2- shot
• Sherriff's Deputy 1 - shoot out
• Sherriff's Deputy 2- shoot out
• Sherriff's Deputy 3- shoot out
• Male Cyclist 2- struck with car post-suicide
• Unknown? (I only managed to count 19 instances of something that constitutes Attempted Murder, but cannot find an explicitly named person)

First-degree Attempted Murder means a Life Sentence with a chance of parole, but I am not 100% confident that everything listed here constitutes as First-Degree. Second-Degree discusses pre-meditation, which is what differentiates the two felonies, the Day of Retribution was entirely pre-mediatated, so my idea was each killing that took place, though not identical to his ideal plan, was pre-meditated. He left his apartment with the intent to kill sexually active men and women and women who rejected him. Are any experts able to help out with this?

500 years (makes parole for each 25 years he serves) OR 20 Life Sentences

Multiple lesser offenses

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I do not know what these multiple lesser offenses are, are they traffic related? Pertaining to his driving on the incorrect side of the road? Are they for the damage he inflicted on shops and the parked car he crashed into? What do you all think they're for? Or, is there anything that is exactly 'confirmed'?

He worked part-time at a hot dog stand, earning around 600 reais (brazilian currency) as a salary.

Tatiane, a employee of the place, commented: "Today I also go to the internet café. I wasn't friends with them, but I got to know them because I served them several times. They usually came to play CS (Counter Strike), Call of Duty or Mortal Kombat."

The last time they were at the internet café was on February 22. "They came and stayed for 10 minutes and then left," said Tatiane.

"The police came here and took the computer they used most in an attempt to get the password they used on social media," she said.

The killers always went to the place together. "They took turns wearing a necklace pendant in the shape of a cross with a n#zi sw#stika. Sometimes one would use the computer and sometimes the other would play," said Tatiane.

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