making new documentaries about a case where justice has still yet to be served is absolutely infuriating.

this poor little girl was murdered by someone who was obviously close to her and for DECADES she has been used by the media as a money grab.

i wish they would let her rest. i wish they would spend more time and money bringing justice to who did this to her rather than making a feature length film about nothing.

I was in the middle of a good crime show on MAX the other night when it started loading and didn’t quit so I went to a different crime show. They have mostly the same stuff that true crime on Discovery plus. What I remember most is a prosecutor or maybe a detective on there had a scar on his chin that went all across his face and he kind of looked like he was smirking when he talked? Does anyone know which show that is? Help I’m running out of true crime shows to watch!

I learned about this case on the show Deadly Women (S7 E17) and it’s been stuck in my mind ever since so I wanted to do a write up on it.

Background:

17 year old Katrina Sarkissian had everything a teenage girl could wish for. She was blessed with both beauty and money. Katrina lived in a wealthy Los Angeles neighborhood with her mother Angelique Bernstein and her younger half-sister, 15 year old Sabrina Bernstein. By all accounts Angelique spoiled her daughters rotten and over-indulged them with all the luxuries money can buy.

Growing up Katrina was a fairly normal child, but by the Eighth grade things started to take a turn for the worse. She became increasingly angry, started missing class and having “confrontational episodes” with other students. She also began abusing drugs and alcohol.

Shortly after withdrawing from Harvard-Westlake, the most prestigious school in the city, Katrina was sent to a therapeutic residential facility in Utah where she was involved in more altercations with girls and attempted to run away. Her mother decided to bring her back home for good, despite the schools recommended stay of 9 months to a year. This wasn’t the only time Angelique prevented Katrina from getting the help she so desperately needed. After a therapist recommended that Katrina attend Alcoholics Anonymous meetings, her mother responded that she would not allow her daughter to associate with “low life”.

Eventually Katrina dropped out of high school at the age of 16. While being “homeschooled” by Angelique, she would sleep all day and party all night. She was put on antidepressants for a “sleep disorder”, when in all likelihood she just wanted to go to clubs and parties every night. She had also recently begun sneaking out of the house and engaging in indiscriminate sexual activity. Katrina had even assaulted her own mother on multiple occasions in the family home. It seems that Katrina was a textbook case of a child who needed parental guidance, but was instead allowed to do whatever she wanted.

On the other side of town, 15 year old Deanna Maran was the antithesis of Katrina. She was a student at Santa Monica High where she excelled academically and had many friends. Deanna was extraordinarily gifted at writing. She was also a great athlete and played on the schools volleyball, track, and water polo teams. Deanna came from a loving family. Both of her parents were hardworking immigrants. Her friends called her “daring Deanna” because she was known to always stand up for what is right, which sadly may have been her downfall.

Events of November 17-18, 2001:

On November 17, 2001 high schoolers from all over town arrived at a party in Westwood. No parents were home. Approximately 40 high school aged kids flooded the house and yard, drinking alcohol and smoking dope with no adult supervision. What could possibly go wrong? Deanna Maran hopped off a bus with a couple of her male friends. Sabrina Bernstein also arrived at the party with her friends. Deanna soon noticed Sabrina chasing a boy through the yard and breaking potted plants. This didn’t sit well with Deanna. She confronted Sabrina about it and told her to chill out and stop breaking stuff. The two girls got into a brief shoving match leaving Sabrina on the ground and in tears.

Humiliated, Sabrina went to a corner of the yard and called her big sister Katrina. As the party began breaking up, Deanna and others waited in front of the house for their rides. Suddenly a white car pulled up and out marched Katrina. “Who pushed my sister?” she shouted. Deanna bravely raised her hand and said “it was me”. The confrontation remained verbal for several minutes until onlookers began chanting for the two girls to fight.

Katrina quickly punched Deanna in the chest, and the sisters ran back to Katrina’s car and drove off. Deanna stumbled and leaned against a tree, staring off into space and gasping for air. Once the terrified teen witnesses realized Deanna was bleeding they didn’t call 911, a fatal mistake. Instead they panicked and drove her to Santa Monica hospital where she was pronounced dead. None of the witnesses ever saw a knife during the confrontation, how was this possible? Authorities later determined that Katrina had stabbed Deanna through the heart with a T-shaped punch knife, a knife that’s purpose is to be concealed in someone’s hand.

The next day at around 2 pm, Katrina Sarkissian and Sabrina Bernstein were picked up from their home by 2 detectives from the LAPD. During their interrogation, Katrina’s speech began to slur and she told the detectives that she felt sleepy. It didn’t take long before Katrina suddenly collapsed and stopped breathing. Little did the detectives know that Katrina wasn’t just evading their questions, she was committing suicide.

One can only imagine this young girl sitting in her room, feeling so tormented by whatever occurred at that party in her mind, that she decides to down an entire bottle of pills. Consumed with guilt, Katrina had taken 43 of her prescribed antidepressant pills that morning. Half that dose is lethal. And just like her victim Deanna, no one could save Katrina.

Within a span of not even 24 hours, two sets of parents have lost their daughters. It’s truly unimaginable. Nobody could imagine that what started out as a typical Saturday night would end with two girls dead. All the warning signs were there, yet Katrina’s rage was never dealt with, and it ended in an unspeakable tragedy.

Sources:

https://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/sarkissian-katrina.htm

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-feb-02-me-coroner2-story.html

https://saradavidson.com/murder-in-westwood/

https://issuu.com/smdp/docs/11_10_03

https://maranfoundation.com/los_angeles_times.html

David Torgerson was born in Austin, Minnesota July 16th 1943.

At some point ( I cannot recall the date) in the 50's when he was around 15-16 years old he attacked Carol Haack who was about ten years old. David attacked her just outside of Austin after she had gone to look for her older brother, he dragged her to a nearby creek and strangled her to unconsciousness. She was one of the first people attacked by him.

David would see the inside of the Rochester State Hospital whilst undergoing psychiatric treatment. It's been said that he attacked female staff members twice, each time via manual strangulation. He had two stays August 1959 - July 1961 & January 1964 - June 1967.

David never held down any permanent jobs but was trained as a welder amongst other things, in 1970 he was caught after a unsuccessful B & E + Attack on an unnamed (media wise) female victim, she barely survived the attack. Torgerson was sentenced to five years in prison as the charges that were applied were mostly for burglary.

Torgerson had two murder victims already at this time but had gone under the radar, in 1969 he attacked and killed Julie Mehrman in January while Linda Wandrus succumbed to his attack in June, both victims were in their later teen years.

During work release from prison David vanished and slayed his wife, two children and their live in babysitter. The cause of death varies between each subject but the general agreement is strangulation/blunt trauma. It was very difficult for police and forensics to tell how they died due to decomposition.

Torgerson would be caught by a citizen outside of a mall while he was on the run from the law. He had attempted and failed to take another female victim in a parking lot.

A judge ordered him to be evaluated again before trial and was found to be sane (enough) for trial. During interrogation David confessed to the murders of Wandrus and Mehrman while also describing two other attacks he believed he was successful on. However these two victims were later confirmed to be alive.

Torgerson would not go to trial as he would go on to commit suicide in his cell. Justice going unserved. Rochester Police believe he is responsible for other crimes and still have his case file open. At one point he was considered for the Alphabet Killings but has since been cleared of suspicion.

Anyone else hear about David Torgerson? I hate sharing a last name with him.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/09/wife-of-gay-ex-nypd-cop-scammed-burt-pugach-estate-out-of-15m-lawsuit/

Anyone have inside information on this ?

(Warning for necrophilia, some suspected to have involved deceased children.)

Born in 1939, September 24th, California, Kearney would go on to become a serial killer that police believe possibly killed more than John Wayne Gacy.

What was interesting about Patrick Kearney is he was one of two other gay serial killers operating in California at the time. Randy Steven Kraft, "The Scorecard Killer", and William George Bonin, "The Freeway Strangler/Killer".

Originally, authorities suspected that all 3 of the men was one singular killer that was hunting gay and homeless boys and men, under the single name of "The Freeway Killer". It wasn't later that the 3 men were identified as different.

What makes Kearney interesting is that unlike Kraft and Bonin, who were absolutely repungent sadists (seriously, be prepared when you search up what they did, Kraft especially, my god), Kearney seemed to enjoy inflicting post mortem wounds on his victims.

He stated that he enjoyed the quickness and efficiency of simply shooting someone in the back of the head, then doing whatever he wanted with the body. My guess is that he enjoyed having a ragdoll, someone who wouldn't feel or hear, and was just still for him to do whatever. He did inflict some horrific and extraordinarily disturbing wounds on the bodies, but ONLY post mortem. He commonly liked to skin or dismember the bodies.

Kearney was bullied alot for being "queer" despite his very blatent interests for girls and women. As a result, he became a very reclusive child and began fantasising about horrifying and violent things, such as skinning his bullies alive. He became so depraved that he began engaging in beastality at the age of 13.

He worked as an engineer for Hughes Aircraft after his divorce with a woman who remains unnamed. During his time in his job, he became a gay pickup artist and started picking up gay men from various bars and areas throughout the late 50s and early 60s.

Though he confessed to a murder from as early as 1962, he was convicted of his first murder being in 1968.

Law enforcement do not know just how many he could've committed, but they suspect he may have murdered as many as 35 to 40 men. He confessed to 35 himself, which is even more than John Wayne Gacy.

His youngest victim was, horrifyingly enough, a 5 year old boy, who he smothered to death, dismembered and disposed of in the forest. I can't find anything that claims that he did anything sexual with the body, and that's probably for the best.

During the times of the murders, Kearney had a gay lover named David Hill. Hill was suspected to have been an accomplice in his murders, but the law enforcement completely exconerated him and Kearney himself didn't implicate him at all.

As of now, 4 of his victims who he's confessed to have not been identified. I can't find whether he felt remorse, but I did find (don't cite me on this, I don't have a source) that apparently, Kearney was completely horrified to be compared to Randy Kraft, who was renowned for his sadism. I don't have a source for this, I just found out about it by a commenter on reddit.

Kearney is still alive today, as of 2024, and is residing Mule Creek State Prison. Because the coward didn't want a death penalty, he pled guilty.

I've also read that he was a Neo-Nazi and treated African Americans awful. Is there any kind of evidence that supports these claims? He also didn't have any friends that were minorities from what I've read. He also treated African Americans Soldiers awful when he was a Sergeant in the Military. He also had problems with women too. I'm guessing that he was hiding something though. From what I've read online he wasn't even interested in having a romantic relationship with a woman at all. He also tried to join The Green Berets but for some reason he got completely washed out and didn't make it. It's a shame because who knows how his life would have turned out. He had the potential to do great and amazing things in life. It's unfortunate that he chose the wrong path His IQ was 126. Are there any good books about Timothy Mcveigh that talk about his views on Race and Minorities in general? I've gotten a few suggestions but I'm not sure which ones I should read. I'm guessing that he probably had suicidal thoughts because of his severe PTSD and his really bad depression.

It’s about a firefighter named Robbie Doerr who was murdered, and his wife Becky was sentenced for 90 years in prison for conspiring with her sister’s fiancé ( Larry Richmond ) to kill him. Larry definitely killed him, but was Becky truly involved? I think there is reasonable doubt.

As far as I could tell, the only “evidence” they have is that Larry called Becky 10 minutes before the murder happened, and then she deleted the call from her phone. Of course this is extremely suspicious to police. It also took 5 hours for her to finally confess that she did talk to him, and that it was about essentially nothing. Also suspicious. At the funeral, there was a small note that said “We need to talk” written by Larry hidden in one of the cards. She said she never saw that, but again it’s suspicious.

There is no concrete evidence that Becky and Larry were in cahoots to kill Robbie. According to Becky’s kids, Becky has always been known for deleting texts and calls because she believes they take up space on her phone. Her oldest son, who very much believes she’s guilty, still said she does this. However, on this particular day the call with Larry was the only one deleted.

Robbie’s own daughter and best friend said Robbie was a pretty insecure guy. Maybe she deleted the call so he wouldn’t see it and think she’s cheating? The note is more damming, but maybe she really didn’t see it and it was part of a scheme Larry was planning?

I’m definitely not saying she’s innocent, but I’m surprised that a jury found her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt based on just that. There was no life insurance policy. No clear motive.

A recent case made me wonder about FBI behavior analysis and whether much writing on the psychology of violent offenders is being reconsidered in the light of forensic genealogy. A young woman, Nancy Anderson was stabbed over 60 times in her home in 1971 and her murder case was reopened when Anderson's brother contacted forensic genealogist CeCe Moore. The killer proved to be a retiree, Tudor Chirila, who was a former state deputy attorney general in Nevada. Analysis and psychological evaluations were based mostly on offenders who were or had become so unstable that they were caught, not the ones who functioned very well and seemingly were untroubled by their crimes. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/19-year-old-nancy-anderson-was-murdered-in-her-honolulu-apartment-in-1972-a-dna-sleuth-recently-cracked-the-case/ar-AA1uRKgm

Hello Everyone!

If this is not allowed on this thread please delete.

I need help with requesting information using a FOIA request. My son's father was murdered in 2012. They have closed the case because they know how he died. They just don't have any more leads to go on and no one with give any information on anything that they know. So they considered it closed. I don't see how because they have not charged anyone for his murder.

I want to submit a FOIA request to get the case information but I know you have to be SUPER PERCISE on what you are asking for. I do know some documents won't be given or something may be redacted. I do however want to try. Can anyone help me with the wording I would need to write to get all of the information, documents, calls, photos, notes, interviews, recordings, emails, texts, etc., That are included in his case?

Thank you in advance for any Information or help you can give. 🙂🙏

On July 6th, 2012 fashion shop keeper Mohamed Gebeli was murdered in his store, Valentino Fashion in Bay Ridge Brooklyn. He had been shot in the neck by a .22 caliber rifle and died on the way to the hospital. Mohamed was 65, a loving father and wife. His murder was the first of a spree across Brooklyn. On August 2nd later that year, Isaac Kadare was found murdered inside the Amazing 99 cents deal store in Bensonhurst. He had been shot in the dead with the same caliber rifle and had his throat slit. Kadare was described as a loving father and generous land lord, he was 59 years old.The third victim was Rahmatollah Vahidipour, shot to death in the She She Boutique on November 16th, he was 78 years old. All three murders had no signs of robbery and the victims had their faces covered with clothing or cardboard.

Shortly after Vahidipours murder, 65 year old Salvatore Perrone of Long Island was arrested on suspicious of all 3 murders. He was seen in the area of the She She Boutique and the 99 cent store caught on video carrying a dufflebag. Upon searching his girlfriends apartment they found the dufflebag with a .22 caliber rifle, clothes and a knife with Kadares blood on it. All shell casings at the crime scenes matched to Perrones gun and his DNA was found in the 99 cents store. Neighbors described him as an unhinged wannabe mafia boss constantly drinking and putting on a tough guy act.

Perrone refused to go down with dignity and turned the trial into a circus. He called a newspaper in May 2015, the Brooklyn Reporter from his psychatric hospital, claiming that evidence against him was forged and fabricated, a business partner and police had intimidated all the witnesses and jury. In 2016 he was sentenced to 75 years to life, the maximum sentence for three homicides in the state of New York.

In Memory of Isaac Kadare, Mohamed Gebeli and Rahmatollah Vahidipour.

https://www.silive.com/news/2016/02/son_of_sal_murder_suspect_foun.html

https://brooklynreporter.com/2016/02/son-of-sal-convicted-in-murder-of-three-brooklyn-shopkeepers/

https://nypost.com/2014/06/30/daughter-of-murdered-shopkeeper-blasts-alleged-perp-in-court/

https://anatomyofmurder.com/john-doe-duffel-bag/#1612317508408-294b2c78-4ab948c9-c38f

Should journalists or writers seek family consent before covering an unsolved homicide? On one hand, the family’s perspective and emotional well-being seem crucial; they are often the ones most impacted by the crime and its unresolved nature. Consulting them could ensure sensitivity and respect for their experience. On the other hand, at what point does the family’s desire for privacy or control over the narrative impede the public’s right to know or efforts to solve the case? Does a family have the authority to decide whether attention is drawn to a homicide, potentially influencing whether the case receives further investigation or public scrutiny? This raises broader ethical questions about the balance between respecting a family’s wishes and pursuing justice or awareness for a crime that remains unresolved.

I am attempting to research the entire trial for Susan Smith for a class I’m taking. I tried going to the South Carolina clerks office at the court locating the trial transcript online, but have been unable to.

Would anyone know how I can find this? I believe it is public record, but am unsure if it’s available and how to see it.

Case# D893268

In 1897, German American business man, Adolph Luetgert was found guilty of the murder of his second wife, Louisa Bicknese.

He had made his wealth after years of small time jobs saving thousands and began his own sausage company. Earning him the nickname the “Sausage King of Chicago.”

After the death of his first wife he soon married his second Louisa. They shared four children together and for years lived comfortably.

When his business began struggling because of the Panic of 1896. Their marriage quickly soured.

Louisa had been raised in poverty before marrying Adolph , and resented the idea of losing her comfortable and privileged life.

Adolph, growing sick of his wife’s nagging, had began an affair with a wealthy widow, and soon after Louisa vanished.

Her brother went to the police to report her missing. An employee, who worked the night shift, told police the night before her disappearance he had witnessed her showing up to the factory.

The employee claimed soon after Louisa arrived, Adolph told him he could clock out early. Which was uncharacteristic of his boss.

Based on this information the police began their investigation by searching the factory.

During the search they discovered chilling.

Inside the a pit of lye discovered a few large bones. This wouldn’t have been uncommon since lye was used often in meat factories to dispose of bones.

However, they also discovered a wedding ring. Louisa’s wedding ring.

Based on these discoveries, the police believed…

Adolph once no one else remained at the factory besides Louisa and him. He killed her, dissolved her body with lye, and possibly burned what remained of her in the factory’s furnace.

He was found guilty, after his first trial ended on a hung jury. He was sentenced to life in prison and died less than three years later.

Though horrific, it’s been believed, this is not an open and shut case.

Louisa was sighted many times during and after Adolph’s trials. The most popular claim is that she was spotted boarding a ship to sail back to Europe.

The true crime show True Nightmares claims another theory is she left the state and lived the rest of her life in a boarding home.

Even more shocking…

It’s believed she joined the rest of the nation and listened to both trials on the radio.

Re-posting member's post from 2+years with no answer. Im curious, does anyone know?

Does anyone know of any domestic abuse cases that involved digital devices in the home (solved or unsolved)?? Like stalker apps, home security systems, cameras, shared online accounts, hacking into baby monitors or things like that?

I recently read that Paul Bernardo is in a medium security prison and has integrated into a unit with 28 other inmates.

Why is he seemingly accepted by other inmates given that he committed crimes against children and women?

Does the high profile nature of his case somehow impress other inmates causing them to ignore the details of his crime?