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I expected the OP to repost, so I waited a bit. I think this may be an evolutionary step in prolific serial killers. I think people are bored with mass shooting stories. However, mass shooting and other murders is far more interesting than

I have seen a few posts and comments that ask why we do not see the same numbers we see with the famous serial killers. Could these two have been trying to get the fame of a golden age serial killer? I wonder if fame is one of their drivers to murder. I suspect they built on each other's fantasies like Ng & Lake, and Bianchi & Buono. It is harder to get away with things. The public has caught on. I wonder if this is going to be a new pattern. What do you think?

For you guys to understand this question, I'm gonna give you guys a basic rundown of the "Dutroux Affair". The Dutroux Affair refers to the criminal case of Marc Dutroux (who was a prolific serial killer and child molester) and the countless errors that Law Enforcement/the Justice System made while investigating it. These errors include:

• After hearing the screams of children in the basement, Law Enforcement chose to ignore it and leave the home. These 2 girls would eventually starve to death in the cold room in which they were held.
• Despite finding a tape that read "Julie and Melissa", Law Enforcement would return the tape to Dutroux and still wouldn't search the home.
• After Dutroux would abduct and rape 5 girls in his home prior to the killings, he would only spend a few years in prison just to be released. This was before 4 girls would die because of him.

These errors (which there were definitely more, but these were all I could think of) combined with the fact that one his accomplices was "Michel Nihoul", it is suspected that Dutroux could've been working for a government-sponsored human trafficking ring.

Later on, I came across the "Martin Allen Case". Martin Allen was a 15 y.o. boy that went missing in 1979 after allegedly being seen with a man who told him "not to try and run" (according to the witness). During the investigation, the Investigator told Martin's Brother that further investigating the case would be risky since "higher powers" were involved. Some individuals acknowledge the possibility of Martin's disappearance being tied to the V.I.P. pedophilia ring that operated at Elm's Guest House.

I was reading up on some possible suspects and one man by the name of "Sidney Cooke" came up. Sidney Cooke was a part of a pedophilia gang called the "Dirty Dozen" that was responsible for murdering 14 y.o. Jason Swift, 7 y.o. Mark Tildesley, 6 y.o. Barry Lewis, and potentially many more (according to witness who said he boasted to killing 15 people). After these crimes were committed, Sidney Cooke was released in 1998 (similarly to how Dutroux was released after molesting and abducted 5 girls). This led to a public outcry and he was later acquitted.

These errors made by Law Enforcement (in the UK) make me wonder if maybe is more behind the crimes of Sidney Cooke and perhaps his involvement in this alleged V.I.P. pedophilia rings in the UK. What are y'all's thoughts.

We could have tried to pick his brain more. Should have killed him in 2000’s or something.

Paul Bernardo, one of Canada’s most notorious killers, is seeking parole at the medium security La Macaza Institution in Quebec. He was transferred there from an Ontario maximum-security prison last year, to significant public outcry. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/follow-live-notorious-killer-paul-bernardo-seeks-parole-1.7123541

So I'm more interested in the biological factors than the social one but they effect each other so feel free to just say whatever. I don't know a single female serial killer who killed their victims for any sexual reason. I can think of multiple male serial killers. I know not all serial killers kill because horny and it could just be media bias but still seems like there's a disproportionately more males kill than females for sexual reasons. Why is this? Higher testosterone? Larger amygdalas?

The serial killers

Obviously none of us or probably very few of us here are professional profilers or the like, but that being said,

From your studies of other killers - or, given your own knowledge of psychology, what do you see as the psychology of the Zodiac Killer?

This is a killer who seemed to be able to change his MO easily.

His first known target was a couple whom he shot to death. The second set of victims were a couple he stabbed to death while in a costume. The final known victim was a lone man, while not wearing any costume per witnesses.

Each murder showcases a different Mo. The first is a blitzkrieg style attack. The second is one where he spoke to the victims for a length of time and even gave some (probably false) backstory of himself to them. The third is totally not in keeping with the others. Not a couple, no costume, etc.

He had at least skills in sewing or similar in order to create the Lake Berryessa costume.

He also had skills with mathematics to a degree in that he was familiar with radians.

He may have had interest in comic books given that there were earlier comic book characters with similar names / who used similar symbols.

He may have been aware of an earlier serial killer who used similar imagery.

He had skills with creating ciphers, more than a beginner level.

He had interests possibly in theater given his shooting of the Mikado.

He also had at least a passing interest in film, calling The Exorcist a “saterical comidy.”

He also may have had interest or at least familiarity with medievalism or old texts given his usages of archaic spellings of words.

What picture psychologically emerges for you, of this killer as such?

did any serial killer show or feel real guilt about the crimes they commited? or feel empathy for the people involved? im wondering because i usually see killers bragging, being proud of, or making jokes about the murders and crimes they had committed (like richard ramirez)

Is there any analysis of what might have been going on in the minds of those men? They seem to had been brought up in non-pathological households, they're obviously psychopaths with no empathy but reading about the fun they had maiming their victims, it's something I've never seen before, to the point it makes me think the devil is real.

Think about it this way. If an innocent person is being tried in Court for some murders they did not commit, then wouldn't they be sad? Why would they smile?

Not just in Court, even when their mughsots are taken. There are so many mugshots featuring serial killers with a big grin on their face.

Example- Ted Bundy, Randy Kraft, etc. They both claimed they were innocent. Yet you can find several of their photos where they are smiling in the Court. The same can be said about their mugshots too.

Probably a dumb question, but I always wondered why?

It’s definitely not how prolific they are. For example, Samuel Little killed 93 people and he’s barely known outside of true crime community. So what is it? Media attention, right timing, some special charisma? Is there like a recipe or is it just random?

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1957 Pocahontas (Iowa) High School yearbook photo

LIFE AS A YOUNG MAN
Born in Idaho in 1940, Robert Hansen was the son of a Danish immigrant and an American woman. From an early age, Hansen was very shy, had a stutter, and suffered from severe acne that left permanent scars on his face. These factors made him a target for bullying at school, where he was mocked with nicknames like "the pimple-faced boy." In his free time, Hansen developed a passion for hunting. By 1957, he was serving in the United States Army Reserve, but after being discharged, he worked as a training assistant instructor at a police academy in Pocahontas. There, he began a relationship with a younger woman, whom he married in the mid-1960s.

EARLY CRIMES
A few months later, in December, Hansen was arrested for setting fire to a Pocahontas County school bus garage. He claimed it was an act of revenge for his unpopularity in high school. Hansen served only 20 months of a three-year prison sentence, during which he was diagnosed with manic depression and periodic schizophrenic episodes. His wife divorced him during this time.

In the following years, Hansen was jailed several times for theft.

In 1967, Hansen moved to Anchorage, Alaska, with his second wife, whom he had married in 1963, and with whom he had two children. In Anchorage, he became well-liked by his neighbors and set several local hunting records, earning a reputation as a skilled hunter in Alaska, excelling with both a bow and a rifle.

In December 1971, Hansen was arrested twice: once for kidnapping and attempting to rape a housewife (whose name was withheld) and again for raping a prostitute. He pleaded guilty to armed assault in the first case, while the second charge was dropped. Hansen was sentenced to five years in prison but was released to a halfway house after serving six months.

In 1976, Hansen pleaded guilty to theft after being caught stealing a chainsaw from a store in Anchorage. He was sentenced to another five years in prison but was ordered to receive psychiatric treatment for bipolar disorder. Fortunately for Hansen, the Alaska Supreme Court reduced his sentence, and he was released with time served.

MURDERS (METHOD)
Hansen is infamous for sexually assaulting and attacking more than 30 women in Alaska and murdering at least 17, aged 16 to 41. However, evidence suggests he may have killed at least 21 victims. Hansen was formally charged with the murders of only four women and the kidnapping of another, whose stories we’ll detail below.

Hansen is believed to have started killing around 1972. His method involved stalking a woman to learn her habits before luring her into his car. Under the threat of a gun, he would force her to his home, where he would assault her. He would then take her to a remote area and "hunt" her like an animal, forcing her to flee while he pursued and killed her. Many of Hansen’s victims were prostitutes, and several were teenagers.

Below are a series of murders Hansen revealed as part of a plea deal with the police:

• Celia Beth van Zanten (18) - Disappeared on December 22, 1971, in Anchorage. Body found on December 25, 1971, in Chugach State Park. Attacked and left to die of hypothermia. Hansen denied involvement.
• Megan Siobhan Emerick (17) - Disappeared on July 7, 1973, in Seward. Body never found. Linked to Hansen through a marked “X” on his map, though he denied the crime.
• Mary Kathleen Thill (22) - Disappeared on July 5, 1975, in Seward. Hansen confessed to killing her and disposing of her body in Resurrection Bay.
• Roxane Easland (24) - Disappeared on June 28, 1980, in Anchorage. Hansen confessed, but her body was never found.
• Lisa Futrell (41) - Kidnapped on September 6, 1980, in Anchorage. Body found on May 9, 1984, near the Knik Arm Bridge.
• Andrea Mona “Fish” Altiery (24) - Last seen on December 2, 1981, in Anchorage. Hansen confessed; body never recovered.
• Sue Luna (23) - Disappeared on May 26, 1982, in Anchorage. Killed and buried by Hansen; body found on April 24, 1984.
• Robin Pelkey (19) - Disappeared on July 19, 1983, in Anchorage. Body found on April 25, 1984, near Horseshoe Lake; identified in 2021.
• DeLynne “Sugar” Frey (22) - Last seen in March 1983 in Anchorage. Body found on August 20, 1985, on the banks of the Knik River. Identified in 1989.
• Malai Larsen (28) - Disappeared on July 10, 1981, in Anchorage. Body found on April 24, 1984, near the Knik Arm Bridge.
• Teresa Watson (22) - Disappeared on March 25, 1983, in Anchorage. Body found on April 26, 1984, near Scenic Lake.
• Angela Lynn Feddern (24) - Disappeared in February 1983 in Anchorage. Body found on April 26, 1984, near Figure Eight Lake.
• Tamera “Tami” Pederson (20) - Last seen on August 7, 1982. Body found on April 29, 1984, near the old Knik Bridge.

Convicted Murders:

• Joanne Messina (24) - Disappeared on May 19, 1980, in Seward. Hansen took her near the Snow River under the guise of having dinner, shot her with a .22 caliber pistol, and killed her with two bullets. He also killed her dog. Messina’s decomposed body was found on July 8, 1980, buried in a gravel pit.
• Eklutna Annie - Remains found on July 21, 1980, near South Eklutna Lake Road in Anchorage. Hansen confessed to stabbing her in the back when she tried to escape. She is believed to have been his first victim.
• Sherry Morrow (23) - Disappeared on November 17, 1981, in Anchorage after telling someone she had an appointment with a photographer. Her body was found on September 12, 1982, along the Knik River, buried in a shallow grave. Shot three times in the back with a Ruger Mini-14.
• Paula Goulding (30) - Disappeared on April 25, 1983, in Anchorage. Kidnapped by Hansen and taken to a remote area by plane. Attempted to escape but was killed with a .223 rifle. Her body was found on September 2, 1983, near the Knik River, buried in a shallow grave.
• Cindy Paulson (17) - Encountered Hansen on June 13, 1983, in Anchorage. After being kidnapped and assaulted, she escaped while he was preparing his plane. Her testimony and the help of a passerby led to Hansen's identification and arrest.

CONVICTION
After his arrest, Hansen was charged with assault, kidnapping, firearm offenses, theft, and insurance fraud. He pleaded guilty to four murders for which evidence existed and provided details on other victims. As part of a plea bargain, he assisted authorities in deciphering the marks on his map, which led to the discovery of 17 burial sites, 12 of which were previously unknown to investigators.

Hansen was sentenced to 461 years in prison without the possibility of parole. Authorities believe his actual victim count may never be fully known.

Hansen's plane

Hansen while hunting

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There are several suspects like Miguel Colon, Kenneth Bianchi, Joseph Naso, Dennis Termini. Do you think it could anyone of these or is it someone we don't know about? I personally think it's Bianchi given the fact that he was an ice cream vendor so he could have lured the young girls on the pretext of offering Ice creams. The police sketch matches his face very well and around the time the murders occurred, he and his wife had separated. Moreover, he drove a car similar to what the witnesses described.

Kenmeth Bianchi has been incarcerated for around 40 years now and even now he is protesting his innocence, although the evidence has always been very solid against him. He did it 100%

But I don't understand why he is doing that? Does he think he has a chance of getting out or what?

His claim (which is obviously false) is that he was arrested, tortured and hypnotized by the police and psychiatrists, which resulted in false confessions and a guilty plea under duress.

A guy who just walks into empty convenience stores at night, shoots the lone clerk, and walks away. There's not even really any chance for him to be caught. No opportunity to leave DNA or anything. There's simply nothing to go off except the bullet. The sheer psychopathy is just insane.

I'm honestly shocked this serial killing case isn't bigger and more well known. I wonder if its just because the name is already taken by another SK or because people have a hard time visualizing the sheer insanity of this case. This is not something that happens, someone just walks into a store and shoots you. This is extremely rare & abnormal human behavior and its just terrifying tbh. Even the most sadistic killers tried to live out some sort of fantasy. Good thing we have cameras now.

I'm talking about the unidentified SK, btw. Not Herb Baumister.

Been kinda obsessed with true crime since I was 7 years old and stayed up late on Thursday evenings to watch fbi files and forensic files on Discovery.

Recently I came across a true crime podcast that claimed one of the common denominators for male serial killers to become - well - serial killers - was the fact that they have lost a child in their past. In every different way, social child services, death etc.

Is there any substance to this observation? Do you guys recon any serial killers that has gone thru that kind of experience?

The claim interested me since I've gone thru the same experience and can testify to it's force. Really does kinda screw with your mind the same way brain damage or maybe a bad childhood could do.

Not that I, myself, feel more of a potential serial killer nowdays, but it's an interesting thought to contemplate.

I figured since it's quite an uncommon thing to go thru it would be easier to rule out than - for example - bad childhood.

English not my first language, sorry for use of wrong expressions/words. Kind regards.

INTRODUCTION
Hi! I am a guy who lives near Correggio (a small town in Italy) and I wanted to tell the full story of Leonarda Cianciulli, hope you like it!

THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY ME IN ITALIAN, I USED GOOGLE TRANSLATOR TO TRANSLATE IT, SOME THINGS MIGHT NOT BE PERFECT

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LIFE AS A CHILD
⤷ Not much is known about her life as a child, except that she was extremely hated by her mother... why? Well she was born from rape, and was absolutely not wanted, for this reason her mother hated her so much, she hated her so much that Leonarda tried to kill herself 4 times, the first time they stopped her while she was trying to hang herself, the second time she tried the rope couldn't support her weight and broke, when her mother saw this she got sad because she didn't want her daughter alive, so Leonarda swallowed 2 slats of her bust (i.e. her corset) failing in her attempt to kill herself, then she tried even eating glass shards (while she was in prison), but this time too she failed.

MARRIAGE AND TRANSFER TO CORREGGIO

⤷ After getting married (in 1914), and after being cursed by her mother (also in 1914) she lived for a short time in Ariano, in which she had 13 pregnancies which ended with: 3 miscarriages and 10 stillbirths in her cradle. Only after the intervention of a local sorceress, Leonarda finally managed to carry out not just one but 4 pregnancies. These four children became for Leonarda an asset to be defended at any price. In fact, this is what we read in her memoirs: «I could not bear the loss of another child. Almost every night I dreamed of the small white coffins, swallowed up one after the other by the black earth... that's why I studied magic, I read books that talk about palmistry, astrology, conjurations, hexes, spiritualism: I wanted to learn everything about spells to be able to neutralize them." And this is how she justifies her murders in an interview at the time; she said that "only a mother can understand me" After a violent earthquake she decided to move to Correggio in 1930; in Correggio she offered "palmistry and astrology services", in short she had become a kind of witch...

THE MOVEMENT

⤷ In Correggio Leonarda was judged to be an eccentric person at best, but she was well-liked and esteemed by everyone, considered a reliable person and an exemplary mother. She welcomed many people into her home but in particular she often received three women, all alone and let's say no longer young, dissatisfied with the village routine and eager to start a new life elsewhere: and it is by exploiting this last detail that Leonarda lured them into her trap. Leonarda had been abandoned by her husband, who had left for the war (since we are around 1939), her daughter was still attending the nuns' nursery school, the youngest males were: one military conscript, and the other a high school student . The eldest son (his favourite) was enrolled at the University of Milan, but risked being called up to war; and this didn't suit Cianciulli at all, consequently she decided that she would make human sacrifices, to save the life of her son.

THE MURDERS

⤷ The first victim was called Faustina Setti. Cianciulli told her that he had found her a husband in Pola and advised her to sell everything about her, but she told her friend not to talk about it with anyone because she could arouse envy. On the day of her departure, Faustina went to Cianciulli's house to say goodbye to her. Since Faustina was semi-illiterate, Leonarda offered her help, inviting her to write some letters and postcards for friends and relatives that she would then send from Pola, in which she said she was well and that everything was going well. However, the friend never reached her destination. That same day, Cianciulli finished her off with an ax (a weapon like an axe, sharp and heavy) and dragged her into a closet. Here she dissected her corpse and drained the blood into a basin, but she described everything better herself in her biography. I quote verbatim: "I threw the pieces into the pot, added seven kilograms of caustic soda, which I had bought to make soap, and mixed everything until the dissected body dissolved into a dark and viscous pulp with which I filled some buckets which I emptied into a nearby cesspool. As for the blood in the basin, I waited for it to coagulate, dried it in the oven, ground it and mixed it with flour, sugar, chocolate, milk and eggs, as well as a little margarine and mixed everything together. I made a large quantity of crunchy pastries and served them to the ladies who came to visit, but Giuseppe and I also ate some."

A few days after her first murder, she sent her son Giuseppe to Pola to post the victim's letters, so that they reached the recipients with the right stamp.

⤷ The second victim was called Francesca Soavi, she also dreamed of leaving Correggio, but she didn't hope for marriage and she would have been content to find work elsewhere. Leonarda told her that she had found her a job in the girls' college in Piacenza. Francesca gratefully accepted and on the morning of September 5, 1940 she reached Leonard, who convinced Francesca, without effort, to write two postcards that she would have to send from Correggio it to announce the departure to acquaintances, avoiding letting nosy people understand the destination. Having put down her pen, Leonarda, as expected, pounced on the woman and killed her. Leonarda was also in serious need of money, and then the following days Leonarda said that she had been instructed by Francesca to sell all her possessions and her furniture. Finally Giuseppe, on his mother's behalf, left for Piacenza and sent the postcards.

⤷ The third and final victim was named Virginia Cacioppo. With the same method as the previous Leonarda he proposed her a position in Florence. She begged Virginia not to mention it to anyone, saying that the man who would give her her job had been her lover and that if word got out that she was still seeing him, her family would tell her. despised. Virginia, enthusiastic about the proposal, kept her promise and on 30 September 1940 she went to Leonarda. Cianciulli wrote little about her: “She ended up in the pot, like the other two... her flesh was fat and white, when it was dissolved I added a bottle of cologne and, after a long boil, some acceptable creamy soaps emerged. I gave them as a gift to neighbors and acquaintances. Even the desserts were better: that woman was really sweet."

THE ARREST

⤷ To keep the story short I will cut a little the process that led to the arrest: It was the sister-in-law of the last victim who became suspicious of the sudden disappearance of Virginia, who she had seen enter Cianciulli's house before making the traces of her forever. She therefore decided to confide her suspicions to the police commissioner of Reggio Emilia, following various leads the investigations led to Leonarda who confessed without much resistance to her three murders.

THE PROCESS

⤷ Reading the articles of the "Resto del Carlino" of 1946, during the trial Cianciulli was initially described as mute and did not answer questions, and later as nervous and tearful and according to the testimony of other people she was described as "manipulative". During the trial Cianciulli confesses, more or less, everything she has done. The investigators, however, could not believe that an elderly, short and large woman could have done all this alone and immediately went in search of an accomplice who had helped her carry out the crimes. The first to be suspected was the son, but the mother, intending to defend him with all her strength, proposed a demonstration in front of the judges to make it clear that she was the sole architect of that massacre, legend has it that in front of magistrates and lawyers, in just 12 minutes, dissected the body of a vagrant who died in hospital and proceeded with saponification techniques, but it is not known if this is true.

THE ARREST AND DEATH

⤷ Cianciulli was sentenced to hospitalization for at least three years in a criminal asylum and thirty years of imprisonment. The years of the sentence had been reduced to twenty-four due to semi-insanity, but were then brought back to thirty. During his time in prison he also tried to escape, as written in the newspaper of 8 June 1946 "One day he even tried to escape. In returning from taking some air in the courtyard, he managed to have the warden precede her into the cell and lock her inside. The attempt would have succeeded, if the diabolical female had not allowed herself to be overwhelmed by her own wickedness and made a mocking gesture. She looked out the open peephole in the door and began to mock the unfortunate warder; she was quick to stick out her hand and grab her by the hair, holding her tightly For several days she remained gloomy and gave up taking air." In any case, Leonarda died after twenty-four years in prison, on 15 October 1970, in the Pozzuoli mental hospital, at the age of 77, from cerebral apoplexy.

While doing a personal death penalty project, I've noticed with many cases, the condemned offenders often had many members of their family that committed similar acts of violence. Probably the most extreme example of this is Walter Blair of Missouri, who was executed for abducting and shooting dead a young woman on the payroll of a man that she accused of rape.

Terry, one of Walter's brothers, was a serial killer who raped and strangled at least 7 sex workers (one of whom was his ex girlfriend and the mother of his children) that he lured by posing as a client. Clifford, another one of Walter's brothers, was given 240 years for sodomizing a woman he kidnapped and robbed.

The brothers' sister, Warnetta, assisted her husband, Noila III White, in killing a man while robbing him and murdered her boyfriend for trying to cut off her drug supply after she was released from prison. After he was also released, Noila III himself was murdered by one of their sons, Nolla IV, and he received a 30 year prison sentence for it. Two more of Noila III and Warnetta’s sons, Diamond and William, had several convictions (including life sentences) for robbery sprees, and one of them shot dead a man in a hold up. 

Last but not least, the siblings' mother, Janice, shot and killed her husband (and the stepfather to her children) Elton Gray to death during an argument. She was able to secure a plea deal that entailed her being institutionalized in exchange for avoiding prison time.

There are also a good number of Californian cases that fall under this phenomenon. Examples like John Famalaro, half brothers Martin Jennings and Richard Foster, Gerald Gallego, Rex Krebs, Ward Weaver, cousins Douglas and Laird Stankewitz, Ronny Mozingo, Conrad Zapien, Lester Wilson, Jose Casares, and Tommy Martinez are among the many that come to mind.

Famalaro, condemned for beating a woman he kidnapped to death with a hammer and storing her body in a freezer, had a father who had convictions for sexually abusing teenage girls and prepubescent boys alike. Although she never had any arrests I'm aware of, Famalaro's mother was also described as extremely violent and pathologically possessive by acquaintances. According to a former girlfriend of Famalaro's brother, the mother attacked her with a baseball bat in one incident.

Foster, a serial rapist and career criminal with a long history of assaulting women he robbed, was condemned for stabbing a preacher's wife while robbing her in a church parking lot. His maternal half brother Jennings was also sent to death row a few years later for fatally beating his 5 year old son with a fireplace shovel and tossing the body into a mineshaft. Several other members of their family had a laundry list of convictions for nearly every felony and misdemeanor under the sun, including another brother incarcerated in Illinois for murder.

Both the father and stepfather of Krebs (who was sentenced to death for strangling and sexually assaulting at least two women he kidnapped) were known and alleged sex offenders. Krebs' father was a convicted rapist strongly suspected (though never tried) in murdering a prostitute, and the stepfather had a number of accusations of molesting his stepdaughters. Weaver, a suspected serial killer sentenced to death for shooting and strangling a couple he picked up stranded on a highway, had a son that received a life sentence for strangling two of his then teenaged daughter's friends. That son's stepson was also given a life sentence for shooting and killing a rival drug dealer.

Gallego was a serial killer that kidnapped, raped, tortured, and murdered at least 10 mostly teenage girls and some grown women he picked up hitchhiking with the help of his wife. When he was a child, his father was executed by Mississippi's gas chamber for shooting dead an abducted police officer and beating a prison guard to death with a pipe during a botched prison escape attempt. He also had a prostitute mother with a rap sheet of theft convictions, and his maternal half brother was a petty criminal that was initially strongly probed in the murders of a teenage couple before being cleared by DNA profiling (which implicated another condemned sex offender, Richard Hirschfield). The investigators' theory at the time was that he was trying to emulate Gallego's murder sprees.

One of the Stankewitz cousins, Douglas, was initially condemned for the shooting death of a woman in a Kmart parking lot to steal her car. The other Stankewitz cousin, Laird, was also initially condemned for shooting dead a geologist while burglarizing a research camp after breaking out of prison. Both Douglas and Laird had their death sentences commuted to life terms on appeals. Court documents also mentioned that Douglas' older brother was a career criminal, and they got into shootout with the police together when he was a teenager.

Wilson, sentenced to death for torturing and strangling a "friend" and taking several members of the man's family hostage over a stolen television, was conceived through the sexual abuse of a 13 year old girl. Likewise, Zapien, condemned for shooting and stabbing the mistress of his sister's husband while trying to rob her, had a father that molested another one of his sisters. According to court documents, Zapien's father shot and killed that sister before turning the gun on himself.

Casares received death sentences for ambushing and fatally stabbing a pair of men he lured with a drug deal. In his native Mexico, he assisted his father in the kidnapping of a 12 year old girl. After a 5 month captivity, the girl was rescued by her older brother, who shot Casares' father dead while storming their home for her.

Mozingo was formerly sentenced to death (and currently serving a life term after it was appealed on concerns of his mental health) for sexually assaulting and strangling his stepmother with wire he bound her with. He had a long history of violent sexual offenses dating back to the age of 10 and reportedly molested his younger stepbrother. That very stepbrother would later rape and strangle a 9 year old girl that he abducted with his teenage son, and their uncle also shot and killed 3 men in a bar fight.

Last but not least, Tommy Martinez received the death penalty for bludgeoning a women he was robbing to death with a baseball bat. Over a decade after he was condemned, Martinez's younger brother shot and killed his wife.

Don't know the direction I'm going with any of this, but it does lean me a bit towards "nurture" camp in the classic debate of "nature vs nurture." The only takeaways I can make with these observations is that violent family cultures and intergenerational trauma are a societal curse.

Something is off in Indy…There are two unsolved cases that both involve I-70 Indianapolis, Indiana.

I was just going over this case and whoever has been involved with investigating this should have to answer some questions.

I am shocked by what I was seeing. They have a composite sketch of a suspect dubbed the I-70 killer, and it just so happens that he looks the main suspect of the I-70 strangler case. Serial killer Herb Baumeister happened to have been right there in the middle of Indianapolis at that point in time and if you look at the sketch you will clearly notice the striking resemblance.

Realistically speaking, how many serial killers could we be expected to believe were operating in Indianapolis in 1992?

I’m sure there is going to be some that will make the argument that Baumeister only killed men, and I don’t buy it. We have information that indicates that he would react violently, and that he operated in a way that would prevent detection.

Given the circumstances of the murders attributed to Baumeister and the psychological profile that we have been given access to, that would indicate potential danger in any situation where he felt threatened or slighted.

Specifically, I am reminded of the Hadden Clark case where according to reports, Clark had a long history of retaliation against women. It seems as though the case needs to focus on clearing up how likely it would be to have so many serial killers running around who just happened to stop around the same time.

Every time I read the story I'm just in complete shock that they would release one of history's worst serial killers and greatest monsters on a $70 bail and expect anything other than what happened. Like seriously, what in the Kentucky-fried f*ck were they thinking?! The guy raped and murdered hundreds of innocent kids. The fact that anyone could even consider releasing him does not compute