Thought about this the other day, anyone know what I'm referencing?

I like to watch the Explore With Us channel on YouTube and I realized today the latest episode was the real time events of Shannan's mother's murder with police videos footage and all.

https://youtu.be/9oX7gTs8Dlk?feature=shared

Lindsay Henry, son of former Suffolk Country DA Pat Henry, arraigned today in Suffolk County 1st District Court for strangling his 17 year-old daughter. Henry, who was arrested twice in 2017 for assaulting his girlfriend, was a POI as LISK.

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Tough to read, I know, but CASE INFORMATION shows defendant as Henry, Lindsay, and Charge info at bottom lists charge as Crim Obstruc Breath/aply Press

Andre (Andrew)“sugar bear” Isaac and other male unsolved.

Andre Isaac’s dismembered torso was found wrapped in a bag in Far Rockaway, Queens on December 17, 2002. His limbs were found in bags in Suffolk county. He was wearing a body suit and a skirt. His severed head ( or skull in severed articles)was found by ice skaters embedded in the Forge River (near Moriches Long Island)on January 25, 2003. He had been shot with what was later to be determined a Glock handgun. He was 6’3” and 25 years old at the time of his death. (He was a big guy). Andre was a professional drag performer with the nickname “sugar bear.” He was last seen alive getting into a red sports car shortly before thanksgiving, 2002. A friend said it was a fancy car with nice rims.

Police do not think he is linked to the LISK case but people have been questioning why Andre’s profile was on the Gilgo serial killer website. Law enforcement claims Andre’s case was used as a test to roll out the program.

Andre’s mother believes he is a victim in the LISK killings and has been in touch with homicide detectives. She has been very vocal. His mother called him a gentle giant. Asian doe- remains discovered on April 4, 2011. He was between 17 and 23 and was anywhere from 5’3”-5’9”. His death is suspected to have accrued about 5 years before his discovery.

It’s likely he was of Han Chinese descent. He was dressed in women’s clothing but he was a biological male. It’s possible he identified as a woman or was known to others as a woman. It’s also possible he may have been involved in sex work. Cause of death is blunt force trauma-a violent assault that resulted in death. His skull was crushed. He was the only male on the stretch of beach where the G4 were discovered. He was dressed in two shirts a bra and pants when his body was discovered.

February 17 2012 a man searching for deer antlers in the thick brush of Manorville found a skeleton of a man who has yet to be identified. (The discovery was in an area of the pine barrens which is a protected and preserved patch of forest because it contains the drinking water for the public. It is very isolated.) Cause of death was homicidal violence. He was between the age of 30-50, had brown hair and had recovered from a couple of broken bones.

He was wearing green and white tube socks and had an Eddie Bauer pants with an extra large waistband. He was also wrapped in bed sheets and a plastic bag. The man who made the discovery said he probably walked by it dozens of times before he took a look. It had been there for so long that trees were growing up through the skeleton.

In November 10 2003 another man was found. In 2015 he was identified but the family asked for his name to remain anonymous. His remains were found near the LIE, a mile west of exit 71. A mushroom picker made the discovery but waited 10 days to report it because he was scared. He eventually called it in because he was having nightmares. It was decomposed and had been there 3-4 months. He was between the age of 35-50, 5’6”, white, brown hair. No damage was done to the skeleton. That’s the only information investigators would give.

There was also a man’s body found in North Shirley on November 23 2000. He had been strangled but that’s the only information investigators the police have released. There have also been several other cases that were solved including a dead child, an overdose, and straight up murder where Manorville was just a dumping ground.

There were also several murders in the Hempstead area in the 80s as well as several bodies dumped in garment/laundry bags.It certainly seems like there were several different killers in New York over the last 40 years. And the difficult thing is, there are some methods that many killers use. Similar methods in body dumps, similar methods in the actual murder. Without having case files, all we can do as onlookers is connect similar patterns that make sense. Rex didn’t kill them all but he very well may have killed many.

Other strange murders that may or may not be connected cont. It would be remiss of me not to mention Shannan Gilbert. Shannan Gilbert- age 23, missing May 1, 2010.

Shannan disappeared after meeting with a man she met on Craigslist. He lived in a gated community in Oak Beach LI. Before she went missing she made a desperate phone call to 911 saying someone was after her before fleeing the home around 5am. She ran to a neighbor’s house begging for help but they were afraid to let her in. They called 911 as well as another neighbor. Shannan fell down the stairs and ran off and was never seen alive again.

Two days after she went missing, Shannan’s boyfriend called her sister and said she was worried. She hadn’t returned home. Shannan’s sisters Sarra and Sherre were both dreading this day would eventually come after learning Shannan had been diagnosed bipolar and had gotten into sex work. They would tell Shannan they were worried about her but Shannan never thought anything could happen to her. They immediately filed a missing persons report. After receiving no news, they drove to Oak Beach themselves to look around. At this point Shannan was missing for 8 days.

They knocked on doors, passed out fliers, spoke with witnesses. They learned that Shannan’s driver left New York City around midnight and drove her to Oak Beach. They arrived at the clients house around 2am. Her driver dropped her off and she was inside for quite a while. For some reason, she began to panic. Shannan’s 911 call was made from inside the house. The detective on the case recounted the 911 call. He said she is definitely in fear for her life. He said he can hear two men in the background. The driver, and the client Joseph Brewer.

Someone must have approached Shannan because she cries out. Police could not respond to the call because they didn’t know where she was. The operator is heard asking her several times and Shannan just kind of ignores it. The argument arose that she was in a psychotic state or a drug induced stupor. The neighbor, whose house she ran to, heard her banging on his door for help. He asked her what was wrong but she wouldn’t answer. She just kept staring at him saying ‘help me’. That’s when he called 911. He told her the police were on their way and she just ran off. The neighbor saw a man in a black SUV driving slowly down the street. It turned out that was Shannan’s driver. The neighbor was asked if Shannan was afraid of the driver. He said she was definitely afraid of somebody. All of the sudden, Shannan runs out from under a boat(hiding) and the driver followers her. The neighbor told him to stop but he didn’t. Shannan ran towards another home and banged on the door. That neighbor called 911.

40 minutes later when police arrived, Shannan was gone. Everyone assumed she had gone back with her driver. There had been a disconnect because the police that arrived on the scene only knew about the neighbors call and were unaware that Shannan had called first. If the driver had stayed, he could have informed the police that she was still missing.

7 months later, a police officer and his K9 were conducting a search for Shannan, and discovered human remains. But it wasn’t Shannan. It was the G4 in order; Mellissa Barthelemy- December 11, 2010, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Amber Costello and Megan Waterman were found a Quarter of a mile from Mellissa on December 13, 2010. March 29, 2011 Jessica Taylor’s skull, hands and forearm were found to the east of the G4. April 4, 2011 Valerie Mack’s head, hands and right foot were found to the east of the G4.(She was further inland than the rest of the girls). In very close proximity to Valerie’s remains were skeletal remains of Peaches Daughter. *They also discovered the remains of an Asian male in his late teens or early 20s. Some time in April 11, 2011 Peaches extremities were found. Her skull has never been found.

December 13 2011, Shannan’s remains were found in a tidal marsh near Oak Beach. The police commissioner said the location of her remains indicates she had been running through the wetlands and got caught in a muddy brush area.An autopsy determined she had drowned and her death was ruled accidental. A toxicology test was negative, although these tests don’t really mean a whole lot since her body was subjected to the elements. Since she was a known cocaine user, the fact that it wasn’t discovered means her body had been compromised.

The lawyer for Shannan’s family hired a private forensic pathologist, Michael Baden. He claims there is no evidence she died of natural causes or an overdose. The hyoid bone and parts of the larynx were missing. It’s not conclusive that she was strangled but it can’t be ruled out either. Since her death was ruled accidental, no one is investigating her death. In a strange turn of events, Shannan’s sister Sarra stabbed their mother to death in 2016. She was found guilty and is serving 25 years to life. Her mother had kept trying to get Shannan’s case reopened as a homicide.

*I want to mention that I read a Newsweek article that said that a taxi driver gave a sworn statement that she had seen Rex and Shannan together at a motor lodge. It’s the first time I have ran across this particular piece of info.

So as I’m reading up on Shannan, I start looking at the map because I’ve never actually seen how far her body was found from her clients house. As I’m looking at the map, all these streets and cities start popping out at me. Hempstead, southern state pkwy, west Babylon, meadowbrook state pkwy, merrick rd, west Islip, Davis Park, blue point, Manorville, Gilgo beach….. and smack dab right in the middle of all of these places is Massapequa.

I know there is a lot about Shannan. I know there’s a bunch of John Ray stuff too. I was trying to hit the important facts for the post.

Other strange murders that may or may not be connected cont. Carmen Vargas- 29 years old. She was last seen in August 1989 after getting into a truck with a man outside of her east Harlem apartment. On September 11, 1989 her remains were found on the west side of Meadowbrook State Parkway in Freeport NY. She wasn’t identified until 1992. She was a sex worker.

Her legs were tied at the ankles and she had a towel and a rope around her neck. She was wearing a tank top, a mini skirt and low heels. Her niece Felicity has a vivid memory of her aunt that haunts her to this day. One day in August she had asked Carmen if she was coming up to the apartment. Carmen said she would not. She had been working odd jobs and staying out late. Felicity said she would leave the door unlocked. She always came back, until one day, she didn’t.

At first her family didn’t think much about it. Carmen and her sisters were extremely close. They did not care about her lifestyle choices. But, their mother had passed a few months before and, as awful as it was, they were glad that their mother didn’t have to learn of her daughter’s fate. When Carmen never returned, her family made missing posters in the hope that someone had seen her or knew of her whereabouts. It was a friend that later said she had seen Carmen getting into a truck with a man. Any time they had an unidentified female body, the police or the morgue would call the sisters.

When police finally arrived with pictures of Carmen’s crime scene they asked for a male to speak to but ultimately spared the family from seeing the gruesome pictures.*One of her nieces, perhaps this one, has been active on Reddit trying to find info out about her aunt. She is a strong believer that RH is responsible.

Joel Rifkin was suspected by the family of being Carmen’s killer but when he began confessing and was pressed about it, he vehemently denied it.

I wanted to mention that Carmen had been buried across the street from a skating rink that was a popular hangout for kids and teenagers. In 1985, Theresa Fusco was murdered near there when she was 16. She had been strangled and beaten. Three men were convicted of her murder but later exonerated by DNA evidence. Her mother always thought they were guilty. It’s still unsolved.

Also in 1985, Jacqueline Martarella, 19, was found nude and strangled in a marshy area of a golf course in Woodmere. Which leads us back to Kelly Morrissey, who was 15 when she went missing. She has never been found. All three girls frequented the skating rink. It’s just a horrible coincidence that Carmen was buried right here but it also shows there were likely numerous serial predators working all over New York.

Other strange murders that may or may not be connected cont.

Tina Foglia age 19. Died February, 1982. She was last seen on February 1 around 3 am. Her family reported her missing on February 3. Later that day a DOT worker found her dismembered body in bags along the Sagtikos parkway in LI. He suspected it was a body because of the shape. As he got closer he saw hair. (The Sagtikos parkway will eventually run into ocean parkway and gilgo beach if you head southbound). She weighed 185 pounds, and she was 5’2”.

Tina lived in Brentwood and worked in home healthcare. She frequented a club called The Hammerheads rock club in West Islip. She was a big fan of the local music scene. That was where she was the night she went missing. She was known to hitchhike often, even though her sister Amy begged her not to. Investigators believe she was sexually assaulted and subsequently murdered to cover up the assault.

*There was an article I found that described two crime scene photos from Tina’s murder. One of a foot print in the mud and a diamond ring. Tina and her sister had identical diamond rings. Tina’s was never found but law enforcement does not suspect robbery as a motive. She was wearing a waist length hooded jacket, black slacks and brown shoes which were never recovered. Michael Baden, chief medical examiner at the time, said the cuts from her dismemberment were clean as if they were done with a butchers knife. He also said she died of asphyxia by being smothered.

Investigators questioned her ex boyfriend, the band, patrons that were at the club. There was a new doctor boyfriend she was said to have. A Newsday article said it was suspected that a man named Timothy O’Toole may have killed Tina. He was a suspect in 6 murders including Tina. He was convicted of the shooting death of a bartender. The case was thrown out and retried in which he pleaded guilty for a lesser offense. He was paroled in 1993 and died when he was 62. Law enforcement said every effort to link him to Tina’s murder was a dead end.

Police have a very good DNA sample of the suspect. There was no match in the CODIS system but it seemed like they were looking into doing a familial search. *I wonder if they have tested RH. They may not have enough to justify testing him outright but if he’s convicted, he will be in CODIS.

Other strange murders that may or may not be connected cont.

Fire island Doe aka, Karen Vergata- age 34, missing around February 14, 1996. She was from Manhattan. On April 29 1996, her legs and feet were found in a black trash bag on Davis Park beach ( or blue point. An actual news print article said blue point)on fire island. She had red polish on her toenails. It was noted that she had a recent pedicure. There were also several scars on her legs. The scars were the only clues investigators had.Additional remains and her skull were found on ocean parkway on April 12, 2011 (during the G4 massive search). Her torso and hands were never recovered.

In August 2022, the G4 task force developed a DNA profile suitable for genealogical comparison. A month later, the FBI confirmed her identity. *Again I found a website that has her stated as being a confirmed victim.

Karen was raised in Glen Head, NY. Her mother died when she was 16. Sometime after high school she moved down to Florida. Her family didn’t really know what she was doing down there but she started getting into trouble. When Karen was 21 she was arrested in New Orleans on drug charges and spent about a year in prison.

Two months after she got out of prison ( presumably) she was indicted in Connecticut for selling diet pills with four other people. She continued to get into trouble until she had her son in 1988. Sometime after that, when her first son was a toddler and she was pregnant with her second, she was in a car accident (leg scars). She believed the accident is what caused her son to have cerebral palsy. I found no information but she had a third son.(EDiT I do believe I have made a mistake. Whether I read something incorrectly or just stated it incorrectly, she only had two sons).She lost contact with her sons since they went into foster care in 1992. The last call her father ever received was on his birthday on February 14, 1996. *One article said that she may have been in jail at the time while another article acknowledged this was the day she disappeared. They kept in regular contact so when she stopped reaching out, it was uncharacteristic.

At some point it is known that she was living on W. 45th st in Manhattan and was doing sex work. At the time of her disappearance, no missing persons report was filed.Her father hired a private investigator to find her. He also struggled to file a missing person report for her since she fell out of touch so often. Later her father asked the court to declare her dead so he could collect on a life insurance policy. He explained to the court that no one in the family had heard from her or were able to make contact. He was worried.

Two months before he passed away, investigators had given him the news of her fate. Unfortunately, her youngest son learned about his mother’s fate on the news. He just thought she was missing. Her middle son, now her age when she died, is living in a special needs group home for adults. He remains unaware of her death.

*I wanted to mention that I ran across a Mary Murphy article about John Ray and a witness that claimed to have seen Karen with Rex. It involved an exclusive club and a sex party and men having sex with Rex. It was pretty outrageous and I have found absolutely zero information on other sources to back up this claim. I feel like if it was true, other media would have picked up the story. No disrespect to Mary Murphy. I know that she has a lot of fans but for these posts I was trying to only include what was verified and made notes when there were some discrepancies. But for an entire story that can’t be verified, I chose not to include it.

Other strange murders that may or may not be connected cont. Peaches age 16-30.

Peaches torso was found in a green plastic container at Hempstead lake state park on June 28, 1997. It’s unclear whether the container had been in the water. She was black or biracial. The name Peaches came about because of the peach tattoo over her left breast. Included with her torso was a red towel and a floral pattern pillowcase. Her head, both arms and her legs at the knee were severed. In April, 2011, her limbs had been found on Ocean Parkway (during the G4 massive search) as well as a skeleton of a toddler that turned out to be her daughter. Peaches head has never been found.

The toddlers body was intact. Peaches limbs and the child were wearing similar gold bracelets. The suspicion that RH killed peaches arose at this time as peaches limbs were discovered near Valerie Mack’s. They had definitely been killed fairly close to the same time. However, I discovered a news article that very much made it seem like there was solid evidence connecting her to RH. The article was discussing the unsolved cases of peaches and cherries and blended their cases with new photos they released to the public. The photos were of the belt with the initials and they stated they had a DNA sample. They did not say which victim had the belt but given the article was just discussing peaches, one would think the belt was found with her. It was just bad writing because, as we know now, the belt was on Maureen Brainard Barnes.

There was no way to identify peaches but when they discovered her child, law enforcement thinks it could be more personal. They posted a picture of her tattoo with the hope that someone would remember. A man in Connecticut remembered giving a 18-19 year old black woman the tattoo. She had been with an aunt and a cousin. The FBI was looking for relatives of a couple that died in 1963 in Alabama because they feel peaches was related to them. It has not been explained how they came upon this information.

Other strange murders that may or may not be connected cont.

Cherries Doe 35-50 years old- Cherries torso was discovered non March 3 2007, in a suitcase on a beach in Mamaroneck, which is in the Long Island bay. Her left leg was discovered on the other side of the bay in Cove Neck and around the same time, the right leg was discovered at Cold Springs Harbor. The toes had pink nail polish. *She could have been dumped anywhere in the bay it seems. Maybe law enforcement has looked into the way the currents run to get a better idea where but at the same time the bay was more flooded than normal due to storms. It was suggested it could have been dumped just about anywhere.

The name “Cherries” originated from a faded tattoo of cherries above her right breast. She was no taller than 5’6”, 180-200 pounds. *the doe network has her at possibly 6’1”. And honestly, I think whoever did the write up just didn’t want to call her fat. 200 pounds is pretty big for that height…. But 6’1” is pretty unrealistic for a woman, especially if she was Hispanic, which seems more likely. A daily mail article staunchly said she was no taller than 5’6”.

She had been stabbed in her torso. Also with her body was a nightgown(more likely a negligee) a camisole(bra).*one article said this was all that was in the suitcase but the doe network had a pair of sweat pants and a long sleeve shirt and part of a ripped up page of what appears to be a calendar.

The suitcase itself was sold exclusively at Walmart but it was in pretty bad shape. I don’t know if it’s time in the water could do that much damage or if it was damaged where it came from. The page on the calendar had the Spanish word ‘cinco’ and some of the clothing tags were in Spanish.

They have DNA to make an identification if a possible victim ever comes about. But as it stands there really is no way to identify her without some genealogy tests.

Other strange murders that may or may not be connected cont.

Victoria Camara 17, Jessie Foster 21, and Lindsay Marie Harris 21- all frequented New Jersey and New York and made their way to Las Vegas. * I included these women because of their New York connections and the fact that RH had a time share in Las Vegas. Victoria disappeared in 2003, Jessie 2006. Victoria was found dumped off of a remote roadway not far from Las Vegas. Victoria had been strangled.

There is very little information about her. I found a Reddit post from her cousin begging for any information. She gave a little bit of insight about her life. Apparently her dad wasn’t in the picture and her mom was deep into drug addiction. When Victoria became a teenage mother, she turned to sex work to get by. There is also a websleuths post that only contains the basic info I have provided.

Jessie has never been found. Apparently there were 5 missing/murdered sex workers in a 3 year time frame in Las Vegas that were similar in circumstances. One article said several of the dead women were wrapped in a cloth but I couldn’t find any other information to back that up. Jessie visited Las Vegas while on a trip from Florida and decided to stay. But her mother claims she was doing sex work against her will in New York and New Jersey. Both could be true but her mother is very vocal about her disappearance so she gets a lot of say in the facts, if that makes sense.It’s very possible she became a victim of human trafficking. Sometimes there just aren’t very good sources of unbiased information. A man was investigated in her disappearance but was ultimately cleared because no evidence was ever found. Her mother did a lot to try and find her from advertising her disappearance on several websites. She also puts some blame on the Las Vegas investigators for not doing enough on the case.

Lindsay Marie Harris and her boyfriend moved to Henderson, NV from New York. She had a history of sex work. She was arrested 5 times for prostitution since she arrived in Nevada until she disappeared. She went missing on May 4, 2005. Her rental car was found in the Nevada desert. None of her credit cards had been used. On May 15 2005, her legs were found in a grassy field off interstate 55 in Divernon, Illinois. *My opinion here. To me, she looks like a good match to the G4 MO in looks and stature. Another crazy detail that just might be a coincidence is that Divernon Illinois is about the halfway point from Las Vegas to New York.

It has been suspected that she was killed by Neal Falls. He was suspected of killing 10 women. On July 18 2015, he was shot and killed by a sex worker in West Virginia.

Neal Falls was also the main suspect in the Las Vegas murders and disappearances. When he was killed, police investigated him and found names of sex workers and objects he may have kept as souvenirs but nothing concrete enough to say he was the one responsible. He had lived in Nevada during that time. He also spent time in Illinois and Ohio (Ohio has several unsolved cases he is suspected of). He was stopped by police in 16 different states for traffic violations, which shows he moved around a lot. It’s possible he may be linked to Kansas and California. They also looked at him as a suspect in the I-70 murders. But, when RH was caught, he became a possible suspect in the Las Vegas and Illinois cases because of the proximity of the time shares he owned.

I read that they were going to test his (RH) DNA in those cases but I don’t know if it was actually done or if it came back negative. One article I read from August 2023 made it seem like they already had the DNA and were just waiting, but that doesn’t seem to fit the proper protocol. Some of these killings have similarities to RH but honestly, there’s really not enough information out there for anyone not part of the actual case to make a compelling hypothesis.

Other strange murders that may or may not be connected cont. Erika McDaniel age 30-

Erika McDaniels skeletal remains were found in a suitcase on top of a building in Brooklyn in late March 2013. There had been a fire at the building in 2012. The suitcase and remains were charred but there is no proof if the building fire was what caused her charring. She was identified by her DNA in 2014.

Erika was a stripper from Kansas. Her last known address was 4 miles from where her body was found. Erika had spent time in prison in Kansas and she was known to have family and associates in the Long Island area.

High ranking investigators said that the particulars of Erika’s death are very similar to Tanya Rush’s death but they have never made any formal connections. One article I read said that investigators tried to reach out to Erika’s family but were unable to find any while another article said that when she was identified, her family had a memorial for her in Kansas but would not reply to questions.

Other strange murders that may or may not be connected.

Tanya Rush- June 27, 2008. 39 years old. She was found in a black suitcase by the state road cleaning crew. The suitcase was dropped at the entrance ramp exit 25 Newbridge rd, North Bellmore. It was also dropped at the grass line and not hidden at all. (Law enforcement acknowledged the fact that she wasn’t hidden).The same stretch of highway can also take you to Massapequa…. But it’s still pretty far. It’s a pretty populated area too when I pull up the map. I don’t know if it was like that back in 2008. She had been dismembered and killed in what appeared to be a rage, according to the head investigator Michael O’Sullivan. They aren’t even sure if she was killed in Brooklyn.

Although dismembered, I think her body was all there. Nothing I read anywhere gave any indication that pieces of her may be found elsewhere. One news report I read said they went to the site where her body part was found, which is just kind of a weird way to speak. No other article mentioned a separated body.

*In an interesting note, while I was researching I ran across other dismembered bodies in bags or whatnot that I looked into as well. I found that on at least two occasions, the news called her Tanya Taylor. It was Tanya because all the details matched, but it could make research a little more difficult for finding other news stories.

Tanya lived in Brownsville, Brooklyn in a public housing complex. She also had three children that appear to have lived with other family but one article said she lived with her children and her boyfriend. There was the only article to mention that ( including a boyfriend) so it may or may not be true, especially after her daughter’s recollection. Her daughter recalled that when she went missing, her family would tell her that they had just spoke to her mother, but her daughter remembered her mother calling everyday but didn’t recall any recent phone calls when she had disappeared. She even tried to file a missing persons report for Tanya, but no one took her seriously. Tanya was addicted to drugs and was a sex worker. She was living a dangerous lifestyle.

It’s unclear for how long but she had recently fallen on hard times. Her children remember her as being happy and loving. She was last seen leaving her building at 3am on June 23 2008, with a man and a woman. They went out a side entrance. The man and the woman went right, Tanya went left, towards the elevated train. Law enforcement questioned local drug dealers and local sex workers but didn’t get anything other than a few nicknames. They passed out flyers and never received a single phone call. Either no one cared or no one knew anything.

Investigators have said they have some good evidence, whatever that means. That’s all there really is about her. Nothing about her clothes. Nothing about her height and weight. Just not too many details.

Amber Costello age 27. Found December 13, 2010. Her nickname was Carolina. Amber was a native of North Carolina but lived in Clearwater Florida. She developed a drug habit when she was young. She had also been married twice. One of her husband’s, Michael, said she was a good girl with bad habits. They had met at the beach and had a whirlwind romance. He said things went sour quickly when he discovered her heroin addiction. He told her she had to quit… then they got married. Michael said they were married for two years. When it ended, they both went their separate ways. He said she liked to live on the wild side and he couldn’t take it. He often wondered about what had happened to her.

Her second husband Don had similar memories of Amber. She always kept a lot of secrets and wasn’t truthful in their marriage. They had met at church and were married about two years. He last saw her in December 2009 when she pick up a Christmas tree from his house. Due to a fall out with her family over drug use, she moved to New York. Her sister got her into a rehab program in New York then she moved to a sober living house before getting her own apartment. At some point she lived with her sister and eventually moved to W. Babylon. (I see West Babylon pop up as much as I see North in referring to where she lived. Bail doc says West). Her sister had said she had started doing sex work when she was in St. Petersburg Florida. *( One news article said she started sex work at age 17 but it was the only time I saw the age 17 mentioned in regards to sex work.)Like the other girls, Amber used Craigslist and backpage to find clients. When her family stopped hearing from her, they thought she was back in rehab.

She had three roommates, all of which struggled with heroin addiction. Although she had been through rehab, she relapsed shortly before she disappeared. For some reason she would use her friend and roommate Dave Schaller’s phone to set up appointments with clients. One article referred to Dave as her pimp. She used paid ads on backspage to secure ‘in calls’ or ‘out calls’. She described herself as a southern belle. If a call was to a house or hotel, Dave would drive her and wait in his car. If it was to their house, he’d wait in the other room. Dave recalled a time when a man had threatened violence and chased everyone out of the house with a baseball bat. Amber was tiny but she never thought anything would ever happen. However, she did something out of the ordinary before she disappeared. She had accepted a car date, which she had avoided after a bad incident. *(She did a car date once and the man offered to drive her to a convenient store. Then he began beating her and threw her out on the side of the road).

She was last seen on September 2, 2010 when she went to meet a client that was picking her up from her home. The client had called 3-4 times. When the police got involved and obtained Ambers phone records, they made the connection that Amber had been texting with this client the previous night about the ‘date’. Something had happened and now the client wanted a make good on it. The texts were saying things like ‘that wasn’t nice, do I get credit for next time’ and that he didn’t want to be at her house because of the boyfriend. What had happened was Dave and Bear(Amber’s other roommates) would hide at the house. When a John would come in, one of the two men would jump out and act like a crazy husband or boyfriend and the John’s would leave without their money.

In this case, it didn’t quite work out that way. On the night of September 1, the men were taken aback by the sheer size of the John. They described him as “appearing like an ogre”, “a large white man 6’4” or 6’6”, mid-forties, dark bushy hair, big oval 70s style glasses and a green Chevy avalanche. There were two lengthy conversations that were overheard. She told Dave that he offered $1500 for the whole night or $450 for two hours. Amber was going for the whole night. She told Dave she wasn’t taking anything with her. He pleaded with her to take her phone in case something happened. She explained that it’s not what ‘HE’ wants. Dave recalled that she seemed comfortable with whomever was on the other line. He said she seemed to trust him like she knew him. She was never seen again and no one reported her missing.

On September 3, Dave called her sister to tell her Amber hadn’t returned. Her sister said she’d be back. So Dave waited. She was found on Gilgo beach on December 13, 2010. She was bound at the chest, head and legs with clear or white tape (one article said burlap). *On September 1 2010, at 11:33 pm, Amber was contacted by burner phone that hit cell towers in Massapequa and West Amityville. That same burner phone then traveled to W. Babylon. This is when they tried to pull a scam on her John. At 1:18 am, the burner phone sent the displeased texts to Amber. Records show that same burner phone was back in Massapequa. At 9:32pm, that same burner contacted Amber again. This time it was in midtown Manhattan. It then traveled to Massapequa. It continued to communicate with Amber until it went back into W. Babylon at around 11:17 pm. Subsequently, Amber left her residence and was never seen again..

Evidence; cell communications, email search of Amber Costello, family out of town, hair DNA, eye witness.

Megan waterman age 22. Found December 13, 2010. Megan had a rough childhood. She was raised with both parents but they were not a couple. They had broken up while her mother was pregnant with her but her father had returned with his girlfriend suggesting they all take care of each other. Megan also had an older brother. At some point Megan’s grandmother tried to intervene in their living situation and called CPS. Around the same time Megan became sick and went to the hospital for respiratory distress. The hospital had the same feeling and called CPS as well.

Megan and her brother were put into foster care and her grandmother applied for custody. Megan’s mother was suspicious of her own mother’s true intentions as her mother was always on welfare. Her grandmothers youngest child had turned 18 and there was no one else to help bring in benefits. But, regardless of her concerns, Megan’s Grandmother became her guardian. It drew a giant fissure in the family that didn’t resolve for many years… until Megan’s death.

When Megan was getting ready to go into high school, they moved to a different city, which resulted in her being separated from her brother. He had been jumping in between other relatives and then finally on his own. Megan struggled. Megan turned to petty crime and got caught shoplifting many times. So many times she often was arrested by the same officer. He recalled that someone accused Megan of stalking them. He took a special interest in her. He knew her home life was rough and didn’t have a father figure in the picture. He tried very hard to give her fatherly advice and go easy on her when he could. Regardless of his efforts, Megan dropped out of high school at 17. The officer stayed in contact with her and hoped he was helping.

That same year she called and told him she was pregnant by a man twice her age. She was scared but the father, who already had 5 other children, said it was a blessing. A juvenile court ordered Megan into a home in hopes of getting her off of drugs and giving her a proper chance for her baby. This just scared Megan more as she saw many mothers lose their babies. In 2006, Megan gave birth to her daughter which changed her life. She was dedicated to changing her lifestyle for her. However, she kept getting into trouble. She was arrested for theft, she was drinking and she met a bad dude named Robert, that was into the drug subculture. He’s the one that convinced her that she could make a lot of money doing sex work. He helped her set up an account on Craigslist and told her how men should be eager to spend a lot of money for her time. Soon after she met Akeem, Robert’s friend. He swept Megan off her feet and started to manage her sex work. He said that he loved her and her daughter and wanted to start a life together. *When she used backpage or Craigslist she used the name “Lexi” or “Sexy Lexi”

During this time Megan had been arrested for prostitution. She made a date with an undercover cop on Long Island. Akeem was also arrested during this time for drug and weapon charges Megan’s aunt recalls a frantic call Megan made to her after she found a gun in their house. Her aunt begged her to leave him but she didn’t want to. Shortly after, Akeem starts taking Megan to New York for sex work and drug trafficking. In the summer of 2010, Akeem and three other men were arrested for drug trafficking and possession. While out on bail, he made one final trip to Long Island with Megan that ended up being their last.

On May 31 and June 1, Akeem and Megan took a bus from Portland, Maine to New York. Megan went to a holiday inn in Hauppauge LI while Akeem went to his family’s house. She was meant to do sex work while he was away. On June 4 Megan called her friend Nicci and told her Akeem wanted to have a baby with her and she no longer needed to do sex work. She was happy and excited. The next day, June 5, Megan called her mom. She could not recall anything strange or negative about the conversation. She sounded normal. At 8:00 pm Megan and Akeem left the hotel. At 8:30 pm, Megan returned alone. At 9:50 pm, Megan called her grandmother to speak to her daughter. She also called her again around midnight. Akeem called her at 1:15 am and again at 1:30 am. Security footage shows Megan leaving at 1:30 am with only her phone.

At this time her phone was in contact with a burner phone. That particular burner phone had no further activity. Megan’s phone traveled to Massapequa park with the last cell data at 3:11 am near RHs house. There is speculation that she told Akeem she was taking a client. A law enforcement source said she was meeting up with a John without Akeem knowing. A witness said Megan was heading in the direction of a convenient store. That was the last time she was ever seen.(A side note because I don’t know where to put it. She had accepted a car date not too long before she disappeared, which was unusual).

At 11:00 am June 6, Akeem called Megan’s grandmother frantic. “Have you spoken to her? Do you know where she is?” Her grandmother said “She’s supposed to be with you!” He confirmed she was missing and they couldn’t file a missing person report for at least 48 hours. On June 17, 11 days after she went missing, the Bangor Daily News ran a story about her being missing. {the article states that law enforcement believed her Craigslist escort ads might be involved in her disappearance. It mentions Akeem being her boyfriend. It mentions her daughter and the day she was last seen}. Her mother said she called 3 times a day but hadn’t called since June 5.

The community got together. They had vigils, meet ups. They tried very hard to find her. She even had a missing poster. Akeem continued to get in trouble. He missed his bench warrant and he didn’t want to comply in being the final witness to Megan. Then he got another drug offense and was sentenced to 20 months in prison. Megan’s family disagreed with her choice to do sex work and blamed Akeem. Although he admitted he was her pimp, he insisted it was Robert that started her on that road.

Megan’s body was found on ocean parkway LI. She was bound with duct tape and wrapped in burlap. Two hairs were found on her body that matched RHs wife. There was also a hair that matched RH. Cause of death was homicidal violence. Subsequently, RHs wife was out of town during the time of her disappearance.

Evidence:Phone records to massapequa.?Hair DNA. Same dumpsite/disposal. Planning doc. Family out of town. Even though some phone records no longer exist, investigators were able to connect billing records and American Express records to the same locations the burner phone made contact.

Melissa Barthelemy age 24. Found December 11, 2010. She grew up in Buffalo New York. She left home and moved to New York City to work. She rented a basement apartment in the Bronx. She told her family she was going cosmetology but she was stripping part time which led to being an escort. She used Craigslist. Her landlady knew what she was into but had never known her to bring clients or boyfriends home. In July 2009 the landlady heard her cats clawing at the door. Melissa never came back.

On July 9 2009 she sent a late night text to her 15 year old sister who knew she was doing escort work. The next day she deposited $900 into her bank account and called her voicemail from two hotels in *Massapequa( it was a budget inn and a best western. It was an anonymous source from law enforcement that gave the info, thus the reason I have placed a *). She was last seen on July 10. She told her on again off again boyfriend that she was meeting a man and she’d be back in the morning. Some post I saw somewhere said she was getting $1000 from this client but I never saw a news article mention it. She never specified who the man was.

On July 18 her mother went to the NYPD who didn’t take it seriously at first. Eventually they sent the info to the Long Island counterparts. They also discovered cell phone activity in Manhattan, Freeport and lindenhurst LI. On July 17 and 23, and August 5 and 19, Melissa’s sister received disturbing phone calls from a man using her sister’s phone. He taunted her, telling her that her sister was a ‘white’ and a terrible person. She said he had a strong accent but was very monotone. She said he sounded like a middle aged white guy. The calls were traced to Madison square garden and Times Square.

Obvious reasoning from investigators were so he would keep the calls short and be surrounded by crowds. Typically they need a call to be at least 3 minutes to pinpoint exact location so surveillance could help. This led to the speculation that he, the killer, might be part of law enforcement. In the final calls he referred to Melissa as a ‘whore’ and said she would never see her again because he raped and killed her. He also described what he had sexually done to her, which is obviously being kept private. August 26 2009 was the last call.

Her family has criticized the police for taking too long to start looking for Melissa. The cops had started tracking her phone a week after she went missing. They found pings at Penn Station, midtown Manhattan and port authority until the signal went dead. Once they obtained her cell phone records they linked her to Massapequa(*that’s likely where the previous information came from) they also found another phone of hers on a felon. He said that Melissa was fighting another escort at the request of her pimp. The phone fell so the felon grabbed it. Apparently the fight occurred because Melissa was taking clients on her own. The phone only contained a picture of Melissa and a couple pictures of motels. It was deemed a dead end.

On July 6, 9 and 19, Melissa’s phone was contacted by a burner phone. On July 10 her phone traveled from Massapequa to midtown Manhattan and back again. Last cell activity was in Massapequa on July 11 at 1:43 am. Then an outbound call was made to voice mail from Freeport and two more from Babylon. July 10 it was discovered that RHs cell phone traveled with Melissa’s burner phone toward Massapequa. On July 14 the burner phone RH used to contact Melissa and RHs registered phone traveled together to Manhattan. Thereby connecting RH to the burner phone. Many of these such occurrences happened including the time frames Melissa’s sister received the nasty calls.

Like with Maureen, a fake email thawk profile searched google looking for information about her death. She was found off of ocean parkway LI. There was no DNA found. I couldn’t even find a description of how her body was found (condition), just that all G4 were bound somehow. In an off note, at some point the family hired a psychic who told them her body would be found next to a sign with the letter G… Gilgo beach.

Evidence: Signs of strangulation, Massive cell phone evidence including links to the calls RH made to the sister. Small in stature. Same dumpsite/ disposal. Even though some phone records no longer exist, investigators were able to connect building records and American Express records to the same locations the burner phone made contact.

Opinion note- I find it weird that RH made so many phone calls to Melissa’s sister and previously, to Maureen’s friend. Then it seems like he stopped doing that. Were they different or did he just realize it might get him caught? I searched around archived news articles to see if they ever published anything about Melissa going missing or the phone calls. I found absolutely nothing. Prior to the bodies being found. I can’t say for sure they didn’t exist at the time, but it’s inaccessible now

Maureen Brainard-Barnes age 25. Found December 13, 2010. She lived in an apartment in Norwich Connecticut. She had two children. She was an escort but she was trying to get away from that lifestyle. She took it up again when she got an eviction notice. After she went missing, her sister went through her emails and found out that she was on the verge of losing on of her kids and needed money for court. She also discovered she was a sex worker in New York. She had always told her family she was doing modeling. She was believed to have taken an Amtrak to Manhattan from New London Connecticut on July 6, 2007. (I have read more recent articles that say it was the 9th but I do believe they got it wrong based on the last communication she had.)

She called her sister from Penn station late at night on July 9th. She had a routine where she would travel to Manhattan, stay at a range of motels for a few days and work as an escort. She used websites like backpage and craigslist. She also used the aliases Marie and Juliana. This particular time she went with her friend Sara Karnes and *Mat, who was her bodyguard. (I cannot find an original article about this. When I was googling there was an excerpt from an article that came up mentioning this. When I clicked the link, the article was different.)

They were staying at a motel 8. Upon arrival they discovered their craigslist ads were flagged and unavailable. So they took some new fancy photos. The next day Sara went back to Connecticut while Maureen stayed to make more money. Sara explained that if they couldn’t use Craigslist, they would rely on regulars. She was convinced Maureen had met her killer before. On July 9 at 11:43 pm Maureen called her friend and told her she was making an out-call. She was typically known for working in her motel room. (I also ran across a Facebook post that said she was robbed outside of her motel but it wasn’t from a news article. I’m unsure if it’s true. That same post also said her last phone call was to her sister from Penn station. News articles have it the other way around. It’s also worth noting that Maureen had taken a car date, which she didn’t normally do. It’s pertinent because Amber and Megan also took car dates some time before they disappeared).

July 14, a friend reported her missing in Connecticut. She was always on the phone so everyone knew something was wrong. Her sister had no idea what made her go to Long Island. She insists that Maureen would always stay in the five boroughs. She also said she would only stay in hotels that had cameras. Sara Karnes recalls receiving a call from a blocked number. (I looked for a specific date but I could not find one. Only that it was after Maureen’s disappearance). They told her that Maureen was in a whorehouse in Queens. He had a New York or Boston accent. He said he would call back but never did. Around that time, respectively, there was a ping from Maureen’s cell phone around fire island(LIE). On July 6 her phone was contacted by a burner phone. Between July 6-9 there were 16 interactions between the burner and Maureen’s phone. That burner phone number or owner has not been mentioned.

On July 9th at 11:56 there was a final ping on her phone from a tower in Manhattan near the 59th street bridge. Her phone had no activity until July 12 when it called her voicemail twice from a cell phone ping near the LIE. At the time of her disappearance, RHs wife and children were in Atlantic City. Maureen was found completely nude, wrapped in burlap, restrained by 3 belts. One of the belts, a black leather belt, had the initials HM or WH.

Law enforcement has been trying to link the initials to RH. One of the belts was used to restrain her legs and ankles. RHs wife’s DNA was found on one of the belts. On of the belts had the distal (farthest from buckle) end cut off. If that belt had initials, they would have been there. A hair found on Maureen was also linked to RHs wife. Based on computer data recovery, the email Thawk was used to search for information on her disappearance. That email was also used on other G4 victims. That email was also was linked to a burner phone number ending in 2671. There were thousands of searches conducted under that email including sex workers and torture porn.

Her body was located on ocean parkway, Gilgo beach, between Melissa Barthelemy and Megan Waterman on the same side of the street(but further down) than Jessica Taylor and Valerie Mack’s skull and arms. Cause of death-homicidal violence. Evidence: Signs of strangulation, Hair, Family out of town, Burlap, Same dumpsite/ disposal, Burner phone and email (email linked to RH used to search for info on Maureen’s disappearance and the phone ping in Manhattan), She was also very small in stature. Even though some phone records no longer exist, investigators were able to connect building records and American Express records to the same locations the burner phone made contact. Location of the murder not specified as no DNA has been located in RHs house. Only a presumption based on the planning doc and members of the household not being present.

I know he is not being charged for her but she is the only other one I am 100% convinced was killed by RH. Valerie Mack 24 years old.

September 2000 (an equal amount of articles say November 2000) her nude torso was found in Manorville near mill road and close to Jessica Taylor. Mill road is a dump site mentioned in the planning doc. So a couple articles just say torso. Some say partial skeletal torso. Also, there was an article I found that said her torso was cut up and placed in several plastic bags. She had been dead for several weeks. (This was from a website called ‘uncovered’ last updated July 14 2023).

April 4, 2011 her hands, head, foot found near ocean parkway (the unidentified wiki says they were found in a plastic bag). She was never reported missing (more explanation later). Her mother had a substance abuse problem and contracted aids. She lost her to the system at some point. She was tossed around foster care then to adoptive parents in 1985 that raised her in Atlantic City.

When she was 14 she started hanging out with the wrong crowd and doing drugs. Her parents sought counseling for her but when she was 17 the state deemed her old enough to make her own decisions. She moved in with her sister and in 1994 she had her son. She moved in with her son’s dad. At this point she started traveling back and forth from New Jersey and Philadelphia. One article stated she was a craigslist escort in Philadelphia. Eventually her boyfriend took their son and left. She was arrested three times for drugs, loitering and prostitution. She was using the alias Melissa Taylor.

Her parents were deeply troubled by her sex work and were afraid for her safety. Valerie developed a condition called pericarditis which is an inflammation of the heart. She moved back home, got a job. She seemed to be doing better. It didn’t last and she left home again. There is a bit of a discrepancy when she was last seen by family. One article said she left in October 2000 (which was incorrect because she was found in September), other articles said spring or summer 2000. She was heading to see her sister and her son. When she left them she said she was heading to New York to meet a guy. No one had ever heard of her mention going to New York until then.

When she never came back home her parents went to the police to report her missing but since she was over the age of 21. They said she doesn’t have to be found if she doesn’t want to be. So they left it alone and just hoped she’d come back. In 2020 they were given the news that her body had been found and they had just recently identified her. Gilgo investigators have visited the family twice in hopes of digging up some new information for the case.

Evidence; Similar dump site/disposal. Near Jessica Taylor in both locations and near G4. Sex work and a man in New York. Age and size (small in stature). Investigators considered that Mack and Taylor were likely linked and there was an old Newsday article about it. Location of the murder not specified as no DNA has been located in RHs house. Only a presumption based on the planning doc and members of the household not being present.

My opinion… she was the perfect target. Is it possible RH mistook her fake name? Called her Megan instead of Melissa in the planning doc? This misidentification could match up to the mill road connection.

They had a warrant to seize those from Craig’s car, but why would those be in a car?

They also had a warrant to seize any books or literature related to serial killers “generally.”

I wonder what gave them probable cause to believe they’d find all that, and so many books, documents, and other things in the car - warrant

LISK run down part #2 Jessica Taylor 20 years old Last known location Port authority bus terminal- the ‘Minnesota strip’. She went missing between July 21-26 possibly, because she spoke to her mom on the phone. So after reading several articles I read that her phone made calls up until July 26 even though she was dead July 26, speculating she did not have her phone. The bail doc stated she spoke to her mother and made one unknown phone call July 21 and never used her phone again. I have no idea where the speculated other phone calls came from in other articles I read.

Perhaps a case of incorrect news to draw RH out? She was reported missing July 25 after not arriving for her mother’s birthday. Her body was found July 26, partially decomposed near Halsey manor road and the L.I.E. Her nude torso was found with a *surgical drape underneath, on a pile of branches. *surgical drape discussed in further detail later. Her arms were severed at the elbow. *Here’s something I caught. It says torso in many articles, alluding her legs were missing, but they had pictures of her toenail because there was a purple decal.

Another detail in the bail doc is that her legs were bent back underneath her. Her skull, hands and arm were found March 2011, 50 ft from road, on Gilgo beach. RH worked in Manhattan July 21. A witness saw dark colored truck backed into where her body was found. RH searched newsday article about her body discovered. The article had tattoo pictures, approximate body measurements, info on the toenail decal and the possibility she was Hispanic. The tattoo was of a wing. Notably, Remys angel. Other articles say the tattoo had been mutilated. More than mutilated. Methodically sliced from top to bottom. Medical examiners had to push the skin back together to see what it was. Her nipples were also mutilated but that detail, as far as I can tell, has only been released in the bail doc. A forensic psychologist said it was the work of a sophisticated killer. No truck mentioned in either early article. July 29, RH shopped for a new truck.

July 29 newsday article links the possibility of Jessica and Valerie Mack. From what I can tell, the police only revealed the witness that saw his Avalanche (**EDiT **correction. Not Avalanche, dark colored Chevy truck) after his arrest. It must have been in Jessica’s murder file. RH would have never known if the cops knew or not but HE must have known he was spotted. 6 months after her body was found a Washington DC detective recognized the tattoo and connected it to a sex worker who was reported missing by another sex worker.

In early articles it states she was wrapped in a surgical sheet/drape but her pimp, Khalil White, said it was burlap in 2016 and the prosecution has since confirmed it. I suspect maybe they released incorrect details(torso, plastic drape) to try and flush RH out? How would he have felt reading incorrect info about his victims? I guess Khalil is Remy in reference to her tattoo. On July 15 Jessica was living in Washington DC with her pimp and another woman. She had been wanting to leave sex work and it’s possible she left Washington DC in an attempt to do so.

Her car broke down and she had help from strangers getting to Brooklyn. She stayed with the family that helped her but they said she had continued doing sex work when she disappeared. She was last seen near port authority July 18-21. It was confirmed that RH was also in Manhattan that day. I searched all around but I have been unable to find the identity of the mystery woman she had lived with in Washington DC. No exact cause of death listed due to dismemberment. Evidence they’ve released;

Family was on vacation. He was working in the area at the time of disappearance. Burlap. Head, hands and arms located next to G4. Similar dump site/disposal as Valerie Mack (w.i.p). Connecting info in planning doc. RH hair under body. Newsday article search. New avalanche search. She was small in stature. Torture porn found on RHs computer was similar to the mutilation found on her body. Location of the murder not specified as no DNA has been located in RHs house. Only a presumption based on the planning doc and members of the household not being present.

So I started following this case when the G4 were initially missing (*as pointed out, I couldn’t have known they were missing. I followed the case when the bodies were discovered and when the movie “lost girls came out. Apologies for mis-speaking)and it was pretty obvious they were connected. Then again when they were found I had new interest. Of course, many years go by and now RH has been arrested and we get this trove of evidence giving us a look inside the murders like we’ve never seen. But, like many of you, I still have so many questions. So I went through each victim and gathered as much info as I could find from news reports and the bail doc. Also, Valerie Mack. She’s the only other one I’m certain RH killed. This is some of my take away from that.

They all needed money and that really is the common denominator. They all stepped out of their safe zones. Even Sandra, whom we know very little about. Police say she was living a ‘similar lifestyle’ of a sex worker. What does that mean? Willing to do whatever for money? And the fact that money was the common factor, it seemed like they would go outside of their safe zones if the money was right and that’s exactly what he counted on. Also, I think he knew all of the girls from at least one experience prior to their kidnap and murder. He had gained trust with them so they were willing to step outside of that comfort zone. The only exception is maybe Valerie. It’s a bit unclear why she went to New York for work. It’s possible she went because she had met RH elsewhere. She frequented Philadelphia. From what I read, no one really knew why she was going to New York. It’s possible she thought there could be better opportunities there. I don’t know.

It seems clear that he chose them because he had met them before. Who knows. Maybe he even learned a bit about them to see if their disappearance would be noticed or not. They were all noticed, of course. But we all paint a different picture of ourselves when we are down on our luck.

The only exception was Amber. I think she would still be alive today if it wasn’t for the scam her and her roommates were pulling. See, she had clients come to her house which is not really a great thing to do if he had planned to kill her. But I think she really pissed RH off and that’s why he killed her, ultimately. I can see his ego-“ oh you think you can mess with me? You don’t know who you’re messing with”. It explains why there’s only a few months between kills too. Unfortunately the evidence her roommates gave was shelved. It ended up being key later on, but still. Bad on the detectives. I imagine RH probably freaked out when the bodies were found. He probably thought the cops would be at his doorstep because of Amber’s room mates. Perhaps he destroyed any souvenirs he had. Any pictures. Maybe he deep cleaned his basement. This is speculation, of course, but a very possible speculation.

So in my see dive into newspapers and news stories dating back as far as I can find, law enforcement never revealed that someone saw RH dump Jessica because they saw his Avalanche. They knew about it….. it must have been in her file. And RH knew someone saw him too. He got a new Avalanche directly after that. And again, when Amber went missing, the Avalanche shows up again. It’s really weird to me that he chose such a unique vehicle to use for his entire killing spree. Such an identifiable vehicle. Oh. Another thing I often came across were different telling of the same story. For instance, it was reported that Jessica was dumped on a surgical sheet. Many article stated this. But when her pimp Khalil was interviewed, he said it was burlap, that was later confirmed to be true. Also, news articles also reported that her phone was used multiple times after her disappearance. The bail doc confirmed that she only made one phone call. I wonder if the news was fed wrong information by law enforcement to try and lure RH out. Sometimes the killers ego can get the best of them when they know something isn’t true. Again, purely speculation on my part.

How about this…. Ok, I argued with someone on here once over alias’s the girls used. Megan from the planning documents. Is it possible it was Valerie? Her alias was Melissa. What are the odds RH messed up her name? People do get confused by names. I do once in a while. Especially if it’s a similar name. Valerie was dumped off mill road too.

I will repeat myself a bit from what I have iterated here. There are 16 parts and I will try to get them out it in the next several days. And from my personal opinion, I don’t really think any of the other victims are RHs, other than Valerie, whom I have adamantly stated I believe age was a victim, and maybe Karen and Carmen. There are just too many details I keep connecting. He had a definite type. He had a style of killing, even though it did change a bit. There was a code he followed, even though it wasn’t very good. It is a pattern and some of the murders I talk about simply don’t fit. So that means several other people were killing and using LI as a dumping ground.

LISK rundown part #1 Sandra Costilla age 28 Found in a wooded area of North Sea, Southampton. She was partially clothed, strangled and staged in a peculiar way that investigators did not initially release. Her arms were outstretched over her head and her uncovered legs were spread open. Her shirt was pulled up over her head, exposing her breasts. She had several sharp force stab wounds to her breasts, face, thigh, vaginal area and torso. She was also possibly raped. She was identified using her fingerprints. She had jumped a subway turnstile and was arrested which is why they were in the system. She was born in Trinidad and Tobago but had been living in New York with her last known address being in queens. She has never been labeled a sex worker but identified as living a similar lifestyle. It seemed like investigators had a hard time finding out about her from what I read in a Newsday article.

She was discovered November 20 1993 and a few articles say she was in the woods for several days before she had been found, other articles say she had been killed the same day or the day before.

John Bittrolff: John Bittrolff was convicted of killing Rita Tangredi and Colleen Mcnamee. They were both found in Shirley, New York and both had been beaten and strangled to death. For years Sandra was considered one of his victims. There isn’t much about Sandra’s lifestyle before she died. She was married. She was also small in stature.

Evidence; The mutilation on her body lined up with some torture porn they found on RHs computer. Three hairs were found amongst her clothing matching RH and a woman that lived with RH. However, at the time, RH lived alone, giving optimal opportunities. Location of the murder not specified as no DNA has been located in RHs house. Only a presumption based on the planning doc and members of the household not being present.

1. Why are they using subpar phone pings and CSLI instead of using the FBI’s phone analysis?
2. What makes the other emails “fictitious”?
3. The “burner phone” is used so consistently that it sounds like a “second phone.”
4. What gave them probable cause to obtain [his wife's] cell site location data? (+ #31: location data didn't exist for his phones. His "general locations" were determined by his billing records)
5. The hairs they tested for DNA are from females.
6. How do they know to collect Rex’s DNA sample from the bottle to compare to DNA from the scene?
7. They don’t disclose that they must have done a genealogy investigation.
8. Why aren’t they disclosing that?
9. Since they used genealogy to do an investigation into Rex’s wife, what probable cause did they have to search for Rex?
10. What made them think he was involved and not just her?
11. Was there probable cause to search the genetic information of Rex’s wife, who has not committed a crime?
12. Why are they mentioning DNA that’s not usable?
13. How is a gun involved?
14. The gun has nothing to do with the crime. Why are they mentioning irrelevant evidence as their bottom line?
15. Those search terms have nothing to do with the murders or victims and it looks like they’re trying to contrive porn searches as character evidence, but that’s unrelated.
16. Pervy tendencies doesn’t indicate they’re a murderer.
17. There’s no direct connection to any of the victims made, or promised.
18. Most of this evidence was obtained without probable cause, so I doubt the probable cause for his arrest will stand up to scrutiny.
19. If he was not in CODIS, they prob didn’t find him through forensic geneaology or his wife’s DNA.
20. It sounds like they built a case for 3 murders despite having only questionable evidence of 1 murder. To infer that the others were committed by the same person, they’d need stronger evidence.
21. There are many explanations for someone else’s hair to be on a dif person. It doesn’t mean they killed them.
22. There’s no mention of how he killed them or them having any real contact.
23. The rest of that is in the media. What the media says won’t be considered by the court tho.
24. The male caller to the Bethelamy phone was calling from a phone belonging to the Bethelamy Family. That’s not incriminating to the Heuermann family…
25. Word play. I don’t like it when they try to trick us.
26. Using alt names for email accounts is common practice. Prob more common than using real name.
27. The maps show phones that are rly far away from each other.
28. The places they describe are not rly even a “coincidence” that they’re in the same area. It’s more like they were in different areas and they’re just stating places where people were. There’s no actual connection there.
29. They said they used help from the FBI, but then the only other mention of the FBI is something Rex had Googled.
30. Where the hell is the FBI’s work?

Sus AF.

There was an announcement that Suffolk Police were moving detectives onto a unit investigating all cold cases and not just ones linked to Rex. And we haven’t had the expected Valerie Mack charges. I’m worried they think they have enough to put him away for life anyway so they’re not investigating the other crimes suspected to be him.

When is his trial actually scheduled to start, is there a date yet? I know he chose to forfeit his right to a speedy trial so it could be a long process.

What do you guys think ?

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/ny-kings-co-jamaica-bay-unsfem-23-33-up15911-tattoos-breast-implants-sep16-n-a.320126/

https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldoe/comments/6zcqy6/can_you_help_identify_this_doe_based_on_her/

I have been reading through multiple articles and it seems that the department is filled up with misogynists and corrupt cops. James Burke, Thomas Spota, and the recently accused George Trimigliozzi, who was running a god damn sex trafficking ring. Is there anyone else from the department who has been alleged of similar charges or played a major role in the delay of RH's arrest?

Edit: James Burke

The new film by Anna Kendrick closes with a chilling note that made me think of this case. It documents a serial killer and repeat rapist that ended up on a dating show. Before the closing credits it notes he was eventually convicted of 7 murders but they estimate the real number to be over 100.

Someone in a thread here asked if Rex could have one of the highest body counts and reading this at the end of the movie made me consider just how many of these killers actually have a much higher number of victims and that this disturbing number may be more of the norm.