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/r/TP9
Not sure if this is common knowledge. It's a pretty nice bag though.
I went out to zero My TP-9 the other day with some Winchester Ranger 127 GR +P+. It was my desire to have this be my defensive ammo. I could not get the gun to group with that ammo at 25 yards and I was noticing a massive impact shift with and without the suppressor on the gun. I was prone at 25 yards resting the mag on the ground. (not sure if that is a contributing factor) Have not had this issue with less powerful rounds as far as I'm aware. Just wondering if i should not be putting this load threw this gun and what other people are running for defensive ammo with this platform. I just have a hard time believing its the ammo because Its a very common Law enforcement load.
PS I'm also not convinced it was the gun. I was shooting a new crappy holosun optic on it that i got for sale. Maybe the optic was not holding zero? I'm going to upgrade to a ACRO or eotech to take that possibility out of the equation. Just had this optic on the gun while I wait to upgrade Dots.
Any advice?
I was deciding about the Pro. I had a Primary arms prism optic on and wasnt quite feeling the build. I changed to Leupold and sclararworks flip-ups and it makes the "upgrading" pretty hard. Will probably get the upgrade kit with magwell.
This was one of my favorite guns in CS
Hello, does anyone know if/when standard TP9 SBRs (black) will ever be back in stock anywhere? I bought an RBS suppressor like 8 months ago thinking I'd be able to find a TP9, and I've been looking for the actual gun since then. I never imagined it would be this hard to find.
Thank you
So I recently purchased a GRW short stroke trigger second hand and figured I'd give it a go. Unfortunately way before this even came out I had some work done by Bill Springfield and one of the things he does is polish up the trigger group. Unbeknownst to me he also polishes up the hammer to lighten the tension and make it easier to pull. Now why do I bring this up? Well because apparently the polished down hammer doesn't allow it to properly reset the trigger on the GRW trigger system. So now I'll have to purchase a new trigger kit to run it. From the install and the immediate feel of it the trigger actually felt great. Just a shame how it turned out. So now more money to spend and more time to wait. If any1 has a spare hammer lying around please let me know so I don't have to purchase a whole new kit lol. Once I finally get this thing put together without any hiccups I'll be able to offer a proper revew. So just keep in mind that if you've had trigger work done. Either wait for the pro trigger from B&T or you'll have to get a new trigger kit altogether to run the GRW.
Just waiting for a holosun iris to restock somewhere and need to get that thrown on here. Driving down to the springs this weekend for a Bill Springfield trigger job (holding me over until the trigger pack comes out)
Hey guys we are about to open the TP9 Pro collector’s kit backorder up on the website shortly. For details see the following video: https://youtube.com/shorts/FYb194QqvMg?si=k_b (notes: surprisingly the trigger kit will not be offered for at least a year, the TP9 Pro standard itself will be offered outside of the collector’s kit but it will have a longer lead time).
I found it funny that flux compares this to a TP9 on their website. Don’t get me wrong my flux is really cool and I like the spring action folder. But… It’s a TP9. I mean look at how ridiculous I can make the TP9 lol.
Anyway, I love both of these guns. Tons of fun.
I can barely get through a whole mag without my RBS Can coming loose and becoming wobbly. Anyone have any suggestions to keep this thing more secure? Its like the little metal spring piece doesn't want to stay in the teeth grooves. Any help would be appreciated.
Hey, gang! Just picked up one of the new TP9 RAL8000 suppressor combos from my local NFA dealer. I had been on the fence about picking up a TP9 for awhile after owning an APC9 as well as K model and not really being a fan. However, I've always really loved the MP7 type setups and the ability to run 9mm as opposed to a funky cartridge is a no-brainer, so I immediately jumped when my dealer offered the RAL8000 combo barely above dealer cost.
As far as stocks go, any better options that you all prefer besides the factory SBR folding model? I was thinking of maybe slapping a JMac on it. Anyone running a similar setup?
Thanks for any input!
https://reddit.com/link/1i9r1ew/video/cn4e91ia76fe1/player
Hey guys,
Got back from Shot and wanted to talk about what I saw regarding this and to add my few cents that I've learned.
The TP9 Pro. New billet upper with side charging handle. Raised rail and deep cut ACRO. New 3D-Ti printed flat trigger and new poly mag well flare. Lets get the easy out of the way. The mag well flare is nice and for rapid mag changes, would make it much easier. The billet upper: very well made. Makes the whole thing upscale. The side charging handle is easy to grab (ambi) and isnt hard to rack. I really like that part. The raised rails do not get in the way. If you are mounting an optic on top of the rails, I would go with a low-profile mount. Now.... the acro. First, I'll state.... I'm not an acro fan. Its an awesome sight, but I want a bigger window. And we all know that B&T baths in swimming pools filled with acros nightly. So, get used to them being around. I'll say this about the deep cut ACRO. Its actually pretty good. I thought it would be too low for me, and frankly, I'd probably want it a bit higher; but I can see what they are going for. They are trying to get the tightest package available. I did ask about a 'filler plate' for those that do not want it. I was told that one would ship with the Pro. This billet side-charging handle upper is just for the pro. It WILL NOT be in the upgrade kit. The Pro will have a "decent premium" over the standard TP9, which I believe will stay in production as well. I'll say this guys... if you like side-charging and want the trigger pre-installed - this will be a no brainer. The trigger: Its a 3d printed titanium trigger. It grips my finger well and its positioned right where it should be in the housing. Pull has dropped quite a bit. I'm guessing 8lbs or so. It gets harder for me to guess correctly north past 6lbs. Takeup is smooth, not mushy, hits a wall and breaks. Maybe about a 1/2. No real creep worth noting on a firearm this size. Reset is much improved, about 1/2-3/4 inch and crisp. I've attached a video. Keep in mind guys; this was a very popular firearm in a loud venue. My entire time holding it was basically in this video, so I had to go fast - I had people behind me.
TP9 Upgrade. The upgrade will be the same mag well and now a new metal charging handle. It will not be the billet upper. The new charging handle should be similar to the non-available Gioliotti one. From my understanding, the trigger will NOT be part of the upgrade, but available separate. This might change in the future. It may also be a bit before the trigger is available. They are making the triggers in house in Tampa, but basically takes an armorer to install. They said they are still working on a dummy-proof version we mere-mortals can tinker with.
TP9 Ti suppressor. This one kind of shocked me. I like my 'fat boy' TP9 cans now. So I wondered why they changed the look. Well... they didn't! Its not a TP9 can. The TP9 Ti can is a APC can. They made a TP9 hub adapter and repurposed the APC can. This is cool. I'm unsure if they will sell this adapter separately, but this opens some doors to play with different suppressors on the TP9.
Hopefully this helps clear up some questions regarding the TP9 Pro. Overall, I like it. Its a additional model that gives people options. I'll add one (or more) to my collection once it hits later this year.
NOTE: I say creep in my video instead of take up. I meant take up. There really isn't any creep. I just got done explaining all these phrases to my wife next to me before recording and then got tongue tied. As I said earlier- I only got a minute to play with it Also, if seems like I look stupid going for the charging handle, I kept wanted to go the AR-style rear pull instead of the side charger. It would take some time to get used to.
EDIT: I went back to play with a few of my TP9s to get a refresh on how they feel. I measured the original triggers at just shy of 10lbs. The B&T guys say they shaved off 3-4lbs from the trigger. It might be closer to 6-7lbs instead of my guess at 8. I was trying not to low-ball the weight because the flat trigger gives extra leverage. Feel, the stock trigger has lots of play, even after wall. This new one does not. But the biggest difference is reset. New trigger resets faster and clean, and when it engages, hard click and you are on the wall again. The original trigger takes much longer to reset, does so poorly and then has another 1/2" or so of take up to get back to the wall. I truly feel peoples major complaint against the tp9 trigger is the reset vs the pull. I believe this trigger improves the pull, but REALLY improves the reset. Hope this helps
How hard would it be to adhere this to the left side of my TP9. I could apply glue and then rivet it on for good measure and it shouldn’t interfere with anything. Maybe I should just glue it as I only intend on mounting a unity axon sync on the left.
I read a thread somewhere about somebody attempting to put new rivets in the right side rail because it was wobbling and they cracked the top cover because they riveted it way too tight. That worries me so I’ll probably just glue it. If I do glue it, this rail would cover up the serial number window (is that legal?) I don’t want it to cover the TP9-US writing so I might have to shorten the rail. I’m sort of determined so against my better judgement I’m probably gonna do it. I’ll post the results. It’ll be an OEM TP9 top cover the way it should have been from the factory. Will post results soon, might be a failure but who knows.
Does anyone
Curious to hear from anyone that's ordered from B&T. How long did it take to get your TP9? Ordered on September 26th, and still waiting. Just looking for a ballpark time frame. Ordered the TP9 pistol.