Prozac blew a hole through my nervous system. Now I struggle with a CFS-like condition, if not CFS itself. Honestly, the depression and anxiety I feel now makes me feel like I was just being a bitch before they medicated me because this is a whole other level of actual psychitric illness. I used to simply be undisciplined and without a purpose, maybe overly sleepy, but looking back at it now, a little guidance would have gone a long way. Instead I got coerced into being legally laced xd

I can barely comprehend most of what I read, I sleep 16 hours a day on average. My ability to learn/recall information is stunted. Can't workout without oversensitivity and pain, I'm way weaker than what I used to be. I developed an IBS-like condition.

Retook all the human benchmark tests to see if it was all in my head and I performed notably worse on all of them, especially the ones requiring memory. Used to score 130ms average on reaction time, now it's 160ms on a good day. Sure it's fast, but the decrease in my cognitive function is palpable. I can barely even score 8 when ~11 was my average on the sequence memory test. I make totally random mistakes in my writing and speech that I never made before, at least not at this level.

It feels like I'm 70 when I am literally 21. I'm honestly terrified that my youth is going to be taken away from me and that I'll never reach the potential I used to have and will only be a fraction of the person I could have been.

W. Some recovery stories would be nice, I took these pills about a year ago now and I haven't gotten better ever since the artificially produced mania and acute psychosis it caused. I'm still going to try my best to transcend this and become the best version of myself I was intended to be.

Yea you heard me. Im normal and fine. Ain’t a victim of NOTHING. And those demons can take a seat.

how do I deal with things in the spiritual realm…………. without the happy pills……….

I keep worrying about this thing because my raw sober brain cannot handle life on its own forreal guys. Whenever I take my antidepressant and the longest I took it was four years of course I still experienced the difficult parts of life but at the very least I felt stable enough to think clearly, focus, make decisions, etc. and without meds my brain literally feels rotten and I feel like Im lost inside my mind and the negative thoughts in my brain like I know it is called a mental illness for a reason but I feel like I couldnt really handle life on its own and the thought scares me. guys do you know how many times during the day I have to tell my brain NO and STOP and SHUT UP to keep myself from thinking bad thoughts and it doesnt work half the time im so tired of arguing with my brain and convincing myself that life is worthy of living. I think self medicating with other type of drugs is also risky and I refuse to become addicted and flushed it all down. I dont want to use recreational drugs anymore and run away from my problems I should face it head on but then you find yourself in a really dark place and you are desperate for a temporary relief and whats a better instant mood booster than getting high. I feel like I need something reliable to elevate my mood even I go to the gym and move my body and force myself to socialize and eat my nutrients. my life lacks in spirituality but I doubt that will fix it. I dont want life-long treatment or temporary fixes anymore I wish there was a true cure. is there a true cure?

Just wondering... I need to restore some faith in the medical system. I wonder if other MDs are on our side when it comes to psychiatry's reputation. Feel free to share anecdotes.

What do you think about these people?

I have already gotten my medication compounded into a liquid formula so I can better control my tapering process, but the compound pharmacist cannot release the compounded medication to me without a memo from my psychiatrist. Bear in mind that the compound pharmacy is a private enterprise separate from the public healthcare system (or any for that matter).

Turned out that my psych refused to issue the memo for the meds to be released to me. I am trying to get the compound pharmacy to explain my situation to the psych on my behalf, but I am not sure of the outcome. Even the pharmacists acknowledged that I need to go slow on the tapering, and even told me that the psychiatrists don't know any better on the pharmacology of the drugs. But their hands are tied as their "status" is lower than that of medical doctors. I begged the pharmacist over the phone to please assist me on that matter or else I may die from the reckless deprescribing (I think I almost cried). She assured me she would do what she can. I am essentially stuck now.

I really don't understand what is the role of a psych. If they are going to just prescribe meds that are already indicated on a list, then why go through all the medical training only to be a sales rep for drugs. They don't even know the psychopharma action of drugs, and they don't know how to administer basic forms of therapy. All thye do is prescribe drugs, and then forcefully detain people if they are "at risk." That's all they do. Oh, and travel overseas frequently to talk to pharma reps. I am disgusted at the entire mainstream healthcare system, but even I have to acknowledge that psychologists, counsellors and pharmacists have a harder job and a more complex duty in dealing with mentally and emotionally struggling people. They are having it worse than these psych(o)s who just prescribe drugs like candy while earning a significantly higher income.

Tell me, am I wrong? Am I crazy? Do I make sense? These evil psychiatrists put me on drugs that I find difficult to come off from, and then when I want to come off of them they are not giving me any support, but instead trying to taper me off so rapidly (do we even consider that a taper???) that I have to experience withdrawals, only to be put on more drugs into my system. My psych even refused to prescribe me the meds for me to slowly taper off from! I am not going to even start on their entitled, snobbish attitude who tried all sorts of way to "expose" my contradictions (eg. saying things like "if you don't like the meds, then why should I prescribe them to you?" when I need the supply to taper at my own pace)

I swear, these people are absolute monsters and psychopaths. I am so helpless in the face of the taper process before me. There is no justice or karma.

Therefore I am what i think.

I don’t have autism. I don’t have bouts of schizophrenia. Im just a teenager. I was just a normal kid at 5 years old. Im not demonically possessed. Im just a kid. Can they leave me the fuck alone already? I don’t have ADHD. I don’t have OCD. Im just a KID.

Honestly I don’t even believe that mental disorders are a thing half the time. Sometimes I think I’m diseased and demonically possessed tho.

Prevention is always better than cure. I'm not trying to garner sympathy because it is what it is, but I'm just trying to point out the hypocrisy I have experienced living within society. I have both experienced this and seen it happen to others. There have been countless times in my life where I have gone into things with good intentions, be that school, work, or in my free time, and have had any attempt to better my own situation and that of others with sabotage by bullying types.

Without fail, every time I have stood up for myself and tried to establish boundaries the authority figures who were supposed to be ensuring order would label me as the bad guy. Now, I know I'm far from perfect, but there is only so much a person can take before you have to take matters into your own hands. These authority figures would happily watch myself and other people being bullied but as soon as things get too much and it kicks off, they immediately jump to blame the victim rather than the people who are actually causing the problems.

After all of these experiences, it has taken a toll on my mental health and I try to isolate myself as much as possible from people. Any hopes I have had to improve my life and the lives of others have mostly gone down the drain. I am still quietly working on myself and hopefully, if I manage to get back on my feet, I can also help others. For the foreseeable future, though, I am basically a recluse.

So, if society at large likes to talk the talk and claim it cares about the mental health of its subjects, then it needs to do more to protect its subjects from unnecessary harm by sociopathic individuals who care more about getting an ego boost than anything to do with the welfare of other people. Instead of pointing the finger at the victim, more needs to be done to ensure authority figures actually uphold justice and find better strategies to reduce the harm done by malevolent types. If you want well-meaning individuals to participate to the best of their abilities then you need to do more to protect them. Pushing pills and trying to fix the behaviour of those already broken by abuse is not really helping anyone, you are just painting over the cracks.

Basically this I ain’t going to IOP I don’t even believe in schizophrenia being real.

"Go to therapy"

"I don't want to"

"Then you're the problem go to therapy it gives you tools to deal with stuff"

"But isn't therapy supposed to fix things?"

"Well you need to do the work then"

"So youre telling me to do the work and youre basically telling me to see a resource guide, but in the end i still need to fix myself and pull my bootstraps"

EDIT: "well that's why therapy will help you then, you have incorrect thoughts I don't approve of" "So then youre telling me to GO fuck myself (well anyway fuck you for not being direct then)"

npc crashes

The dramatic push after the war to insert social psychiatry into the West, and the many theories and forms of dynamic psychiatry and psychotherapy that traveled with it (to treat both those said to be mentally ill as well as those who were 'normal') made gains for a short time.

By the late 1960's, however, psychiatry was under attack from within and without.

Many within psychiatry disliked what was occurring and were demanding a return to biological psychiatry (although that subject had never gotten beyond speculation at best).

Psychiatry's monopoly on mental health had been broken and serious questions were being asked regarding the value of the profession. Psychiatry had entered what has been called a "crisis of legitimacy."

"In the American Journal of Psychiatry in 1977, Thomas Hackett, a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, pointed out that the number of medical students going into psychiatry had shown a marked and substantial drop throughout the country and that it reflected, in his opinion, a growing skepticism about psychiatry’s useful future as it is seen from the outside. “Apart from their training in medicine,” he claimed, “psychiatrists have nothing unique to offer that cannot be provided by psychologists, the clergy, or lay psychotherapists” Mayes and Horwitz, 2005. DSM-III and the revolution in the classification of mental illness.

By 1976, the President of the American Psychiatric Association, Alan Stone said of social and dynamic psychiatry: "...carrying psychiatrists on a mission to change the world, had brought the profession to the edge of extinction." Mitchell Wilson MD. 1990. DSM III and the Transformation of American Psychiatry: A History.

https://perlanterna.com/crisis-of-legitimacy

I can’t even describe how beautiful the feeling of freedom was in that moment.

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I am making this post because I don't see this topic discussed often or at all. Whenever I am trying to do anything that requires a certain kind of focus, like reading a book where each idea builds precisely on top of another, I hear background faint music, as well as have weird verbal associations based on little phrases in the book to songs I've heard the phrases in, and this will add further layers to the background noise in my head. Further, at times, when there is no stimulation, I may hear stuff as nonsensical as phoneme like non-words involving "guinerajin rabdool", in an endless stream.

I feel these experiences distract from my ability to read and reason, and no medication I've tried so far has helped. Have any of your struggled with this symptom? What creative solutions outside of the mainstream psychiatry (or perhaps even within it) has been of some help?

I really don't see/know of any targeted therapies for this kind of symptom.

#overly broad law ohio, "House Bill 249...“psychiatric deterioration” standard, a person must meet all of the following: Their judgment is impaired by a lack of understanding of having an illness or a need for treatment, or both. They have refused treatment or are not following a prescribed treatment. They have been diagnosed with schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, bipolar disorder, delusional disorder, or major depressive disorder. They are “reasonably expected to suffer mental deterioration” if not treated and, because of that, would fall into another category outlined in existing law...make a judgment call about how someone may act in the future." https://www.nbc4i.com/news/politics/disability-rights-groups-worry-about-an-ohio-bill-to-expand-involuntary-psychiatric-commitment/

#don't lick toads "doesn’t induce hallucinations in the rodents...structures of serotonin and 5-MeO-DMT...5-HT1A" https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/drug-discovery/Tweaked-psychedelic-toad-toxin-alleviates/102/web/2024/05

#trauma "Up to 40% of prevalent mental health conditions, including anxiety, depression, and substance abuse, stem from childhood maltreatment." https://neurosciencenews.com/child-maltreatment-mental-health-26067/ I was bullied and domestically abused everyday from age 6 to 18. It was all preventable if the 2nd precinct had arrested them.

#no proof it reduces violence "A systematic review of pharmacological interventions to reduce violence in patients with schizophrenia in forensic psychiatry settings." https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/default-source/events/2024/faculties/faculty-of-forensic-2024/faculty-of-forensic-psychiatry-2024---marco-picchioni-40.pdf%3Fsfvrsn%3D54bfcaa7_3&ct=ga&cd=CAIyGjg5NjA0YjYwMzQ1Y2E0NDY6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AOvVaw1xoLQj8hQk6NV50vF_r9qW

#spasms "anticholinergics can be effective for patients with drug-induced parkinsonism (DIP) or dystonia, but they should not be used in patients with tardive dyskinesia (TD), akathisia, or neuroleptic malignant syndrome (NMS)." https://www.clinicaladvisor.com/home/topics/neurology-information-center/anticholinergics-for-drug-induced-movement-disorders/

#institutionalized "She has had her hair pulled out by a patient and she is bored,"...there is a gap in provision for community care...spend a couple of million on traumatising me in a hospital." https://www.aol.com/news/people-stuck-mental-health-hospitals-140647104.html

#excessive poisoning "Australia’s health watchdog warns patients are being overprescribed psychotropic medication...we found out that the leg movements were caused by the medicines,” Bronte said...must develop individually tailored non-medication interventions and only use psychotropic medicines as a last resort." https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/may/09/australias-health-watchdog-warns-patients-are-being-overprescribed-psychotropic-medication

#whistleblowers "University of Minnesota, to acknowledge its role in the suicide of a man in an industry-funded clinical trial of antipsychotic drugs...The New York Times recently published a brief excerpt from his book in which he asks why doctors end up participating in atrocities like the Tuskegee syphilis trials or the Willowbrook hepatitis study. Elliott is scathing. He says that students and doctors can be socialised into accepting morally indefensible situations." https://bioedge.org/bioethics-d75/doctors-can-be-socialized-to-cooperate-in-morally-despicable-evil-says-bioethicist/

#quacks "There was just one problem: Cotton’s theory of infection was nonsense. His groundbreaking methods didn’t replicate. And his miraculous cure for insanity, the one everyone wanted to try? It was pulling out his patients’ teeth." https://archive.is/pz0qH

#monopoly "Individuals who have used cannabis openly and daily for more than a decade have shown no signs of psychosis...In reality, these individuals may be using other illicit substances and blaming cannabis to avoid arrest." https://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2024/05/09/thai-cannabis-network-opposes-pms-move-to-outlaw-the-drug/

1. How can one know if their symptoms of psychosis, whatever they are, indicate some kind of neurodegeneration, if they are too poor to afford a brain scan?
2. Why is psychiatry as it stands criticized, outside of unreasonably long antipsychotic regiments, for starters, if the fruits of its ventures are used sometimes in acute scenarios? Is that not hypocritical to criticize psychiatry then?
3. What are the most common objections to psychiatry in this subforum, and what does psychiatry actually "get right"?
4. If someone is coming in with a potentially "dangerous presentation" showing hallmarks of violence towards others and with a legitimate history, and has some sort of interpretation around their acts that is incomprehensible to the people right around them, how should they be manage? Are antipsychotics really ok for this person if all other options have been exhausted?
5. Is thought disorder, as it stands, however defined, ever a beneficial trait to have as a person?

I’m 19 and sitting here smoking a bowl thinking about how my life has been and realizing again how scary and traumatic it’s been. I suffer from severe OCD and was thinking about how for nearly 2 years when I was 16-17 everyday I was terrified for my life because of OCD fears that I was going to die any moment for whatever reasons. I genuinely feared for my life for two years it was so terrifying every day and I am traumatized from it. I had no friends during this time either. When I just turned 16 my older sister who was my best friend died of an overdose. I am still traumatized by this and miss her so much everyday. When I was 12 I was taken away from my mom by Child protective services and fostered by my grandparents until my dad took back custody of me and my brothers when I was 13. My dad was verbally and emotionally and sometimes physically abusive towards me during this time until I was 16 and I started dealing with severe OCD during this time which was very stressful for me. I started using weed during this time. After my parents divorced when I was 11 my mom got fully custody of me and my siblings but she is extremely mentally ill and was using meth. I watched my mom develop schizophrenia from meth and become a shell of her former self. I was living in a literal shitty meth house during this time with no responsible adults at all only drug addicts. After all this I became severely anxious and depressed. My dad urged me to talk a psychiatrist and I was prescribed Prozac. I reacted really badly to Prozac and was left with PSSD even after stopping it which caused me to become suicidal. I started drinking a lot and now today I’m a depressed anxious alcoholic I can’t break my addictions and I’m completely terrified and traumatized by life and am constantly worrying what the next bad thing to happen to me is going to be and I’m really scared and sad. I’m worried about my little brothers because if something happens to them I know I wouldn’t be okay. One of my little brothers is caught up in gangs and I can’t get him to leave, the other one I worry he will get hit by a car when he rides his electric bike

"Unfortunately it's also the case that some people with severe mental illness and don't believe that they are ill criticize psychiatry because to do otherwise would be to acknowledge their infirmity."-Jeffrey Lieberman