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If I can't be Winnie the Pooh I don't want to be anything...

1 Comment
2024/12/02
09:26 UTC

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Took the medical leave, but still wish I had more time to recover.

I did the thing I posted about 5 weeks ago. I took my second medical leave in 7 months. Iโ€™m happier and not in the dark place I was in before. Itโ€™s a combo of intensive therapy and not being at work. Iโ€™m scheduled to go back to work soon, but I fear that my mental health will plummet as soon as I return.

I feel like more time off would benefit me so I can continue my intensive therapy program and get stronger mental health wise. Although I am doing better, so I donโ€™t really have a good case for my doctor to extend my leave. I have 12 weeks of FMLA, so I could take more time off and still be protected.

Is it worth asking for more time off, or are my doctor and manager going to think Iโ€™m taking advantage?

Has anyone been in a similar situation?

1 Comment
2024/12/02
08:34 UTC

7

Burned out but still got pushed to work

I had a massive mental breakdown about a month ago, triggered by work. The amount of workload I have to do is beyond my capacity, and I know my boss knows. Tried to tell her about this, how I need a break, a whole month of just not working and not thinking about work. She said okay but she kept pushing the date of my break, to the point that I am now still working, burned out, dragging myself every day to open my laptop (I work remotely).

My work quality has gone bad (duh), I do not care about the company or clients anymore, I really think about leaving. Tried to tell the boss again last week and all I got was just "thank you for telling me, but I will not let you quit bcs you worked hard for this (I've been in this company for 3 years)" and basically I got pushed to work again until Christmas.

It's Monday already and I am super anxious and depressed bcs I will need to turn on my laptop, go to a meeting, work, blablabla while my brain is basically fried!! How could I go through this while being burned out? I am this close to just hand in the letter of resignation (but I'm too scared to do it kinda???) Are all startups the same? Underpaid ans overwork? Idk how long I could live like this anymore..

4 Comments
2024/12/02
07:42 UTC

11

Calling out of work at a job that needs u to find a replacement?

Hello, I cant make it into work tomorrow and am kind of freaking out because my job requires us to find someone to cover our shift, the only issue is that me and all my coworkers are scheduled for the same time every day so there is literally no one extra that can just cover for any of us (it makes no sense tbh) what should I say? im scared that its gonna put me on thin ice :(

15 Comments
2024/12/02
04:59 UTC

976

Was told "Low pay is a good thing because it entices you to be more responsible and resourceful." by the CEO

I took a tech job and worked there for 2 years. I was consistently putting in ~60 hours per week, working nights and weekends, including holiday weekends. The last year I was there, the CEO delayed raises and said we didn't meet our profit goals for the fiscal year, so raises were going to be delayed (I was already making below market average).

6 months later, I was fed up. The raise still hadn't come. My boss was very passive-aggressive (all of leadership at this company was like this) but the CEO was visiting the area where I was. We got lunch and I expressed my annoyance with the amount of work I'm doing and the lack of compensation I'm getting for it, including being stiffed on a raise during reviews. He grinned at me, tilted his head a bit to the side and said "Ya know, low pay is a good thing for you because it entices you to be more responsible and resourceful with your income. If you're concerned about pay, perhaps you should look into an accountant to help you manage your finances." I couldn't believe that I was hearing. I kept it cool and tried to reiterate my point professionally (in case he missed it), but the blame kept getting pointed to me. I was seeing red for a whole day after that conversation.

2 months later, I landed a new job that was nearly double the pay and I walked out without leaving a two-week notice. I guess I should have picked up on the red flags on my first day when that same CEO said "We're really good people here.". Yeah, you shouldn't have to say that if it's true.

Never accept poor treatment for as long as I did. You owe your employer nothing. If we learn to value and stick up for ourselves, perhaps they can be the ones who will unionize and negotiate with their union on how to treat us better.

59 Comments
2024/12/02
03:58 UTC

9

Does anyone ever get that ine supervisor, that you rarely work with, but when they are scheduled with you, you think about switching jobs.

1 Comment
2024/12/02
03:31 UTC

549

Meta fired people for having lunch at home.

Meta has pressed the red button of fascism after their stocks plummeted following the end of covid, a company that used to treat its employees nicely besides the pay dropped the illusion and is not very ostensive.

I think one of the most vivid examples of that was the firing for breaking company policy towards the use of a lunch benefit. At Meta as a benefit employees have breakfast lunch and dinner at the office, but since not all office are equipped with a kitchen and tables, to the employees of those offices were granted a benefit of 25 dollars to spend on food delivery.

But here is the catch that some people were not aware:

  1. You could only ask for food and
  2. You need to eat the food at the office

It turns out people were not abiding by these rules, a woman bought tooth brush occasionally as the office stopped supplying those and other people were using the service while working at home (rto is 3 days of the week).

Mussolini said that Fascism is just Corporativism applied to society so comparing a mega corp to Fascism is redundant but since only Fascism as a name has the bad reputation, we can exploit its nomenclatures to make points. HR obviously acts as secret police, the GESTAPO of our current lives. HR made an investigation, found these people 'abusing' the service and around 20 people were fired in LA. Just like the justice system seeks to arrest people to fill quotas and show their necessity to exist and demand more budget, HR also is incentivized into finding people to fire, to show they are needed.

What was really disturbing was seeing some people actually defending the company, calling this employees as thieves for stealing company money, yes for buying toothbrush.

Oh and by the way Meta is aggressively hiring, need to refill the 15 per cent they fire each half.

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44 Comments
2024/12/02
01:09 UTC

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Raising your Immunity to Joblessness (Inspection & NDE)

There are industries that pay very well, and do not require a considerable career investment prior to being paid very well. I wish I had this advice when I was 17-18. The quality control inspection and non destructive inspection industries are all certification and experince driven. The levels for climbing are pretty transparent and you can focus on sub disciplines based on your interests and/or lifestyle desires. Below I'll quickly cover the two major groups and where to begin.

Quality control positions monitor building, fabrication, and election in a shop. Knowledge is available mostly for free (good to see if you like that field). Quality inspection roles usually leave you in one location but limit you to a small number of locations. Certifications can be in welding, weld inspection, coatings application coatings inspection, bolt inspection. These are broad but any interested can review AISC, AWS, ASNT, RCSC, AMPP, AASHTO.

Non destructive inspectors usually take longer to attain because of the required documented experience. However they are paid really well and are expected to travel. They may inspect the surface of a material or the internal structure. There are schools that will train your for a very reasonable price.

Most individuals maximize their career earnings by attaining a mixture of Quality control and NDE inspection certifications. Let's be realistic, if you go towards this field, know your strengths and in about two years, you can make $50-85k, and in 5 years, $85-105k/yrs. The best part of this field is that it is self driven. You can add, get certified and create your own value. That's why the range varies. Some guys just want stability and to be left alone. Others are life long learners and will travel. They clean up. Also, if your good at it, your employer will likely pay for your higher level training.

4 Comments
2024/12/02
00:32 UTC

1

Over 80% of my office got laid off

With one sudden email, less than an hour of which everyone's access to the company's systems (email included) got revoked. There were no signs that the company was in trouble; we were actively hiring new people and, to my knowledge, no-one had been fired for almost two years. At least if there'd been gradual lay-offs or a pause in recruiting, people could have prepared for something like this happening. It was just so sudden, and timed right before Christmas when it is probably the hardest for anyone to find a new job.... At least it wasn't just "low-level" people but also some executives got the boot. Still just can't believe it.

0 Comments
2024/12/01
14:37 UTC

2

You Need to Find Someone to Cover Your Shift

I just quit a job that makes people do this to an insane degree. There were times when I called in sick to work and then they had me try to cover my shift by texting everyone who worked at the store (literally like 50 different people). And then if that didn't work I was supposed to call other stores to see if they could spare anyone. Seriously, this practice benefits nobody. What would always happen is that I would text a bunch of people, they all would say no, then the managers end up finding someone to cover anyway. It really just feels like a way for shitty businesses to punish people for calling in.

1 Comment
2024/12/01
05:45 UTC

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I'm so tired of shovel seller adverts

Not sure if this belongs here but seems like a good place to share it

I'm so tired or seeing shovel seller coding bootcamp or other tech job courses. A CS degree is no longer a guaranteed job in the US.

The entry level market is flooded yet all these classes and even colleges will sell you on the fact that CS will guarantee you a high paying job. It won't.

The best developers will thrive, but the threshold for the best will continue to climb. Unless this is your passion and you have been studying on your because this is what you enjoy doing, you will struggle. CS jobs have by far the hardest interviews out of any of major industry, its much harder to bullshit your way through an interview. Take home tests/assignments, multi stage coding interviews, high competition internationally as companies look to cut developer costs.

If this is what you want to do, you won't get a job by just sitting and listening to classes, doing homework and passing tests. You need to actually be committed and work on your portfolio in your free time, attend hackathons, etc.

I have so many friends who graduated CS and have had 0 job prospects or laid off multiple times.

0 Comments
2024/12/01
23:22 UTC

9

New job new grad, hate it

It took me 7 months to find this job after graduating in December of 2023. Iโ€™m an assistant for a group of financial advisors and am regretting my decisionโ€ฆ only 3 months in. I do not have a finance background but have an interest in the stock market. I am dealing with way more annuities and insurance products (NOT NWM) than I thought and on top of it I donโ€™t think the head advisor likes me one bit. I try to get to know them or ask about their weekend or weddings or whatever and they never ask anything about me lol. Constantly getting bitched at for not checking his email and Iโ€™m already answering his phone all day and half are bullshit salesman wanting to pitch me there โ€œhigh growth fundโ€ also having to help mr lead advisor with his personal healthcare forms among other bullshit. on top of this I have no benefits but am receiving a decent salary (55K) for a new grad. I have also considered moving to a different city to get a new job but would like to have the job in the city before I do that. Still living with parents so I have flexibility to leave whenever, but this job market is awful. HELP AND ADVICE PLZ :))

2 Comments
2024/12/01
21:52 UTC

11

Issues with manager

Long story short my manager spoke to me quite aggressively recently regarding a difference of opinion last week and told me to leave as sheโ€™s sick of me. Pretty shocked I just reported it to HR as I wanted it logged.

On Friday I told her it made me feel quite uncomfortable and I just got ignored. Dreading going back to work tomorrow and not sure how to handle it other than probably looking for another job.

5 Comments
2024/12/01
21:41 UTC

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Will being ugly be problem in my career?

I asked this question to normies and they typically say, "as long as you are within average range, it is alright." Well, what if I amย notย in average range?

My career requires some face to face interactions with clients, albeit its technical job. (I wanna be designer in tech firms)

48 Comments
2024/12/01
21:17 UTC

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How can I use this GDPR violation against my soon-to-be ex-employer?

Throwaway account.

I got CC'd into an email exchange between HR and management, and somewhere in all that, they shared a candidateโ€™s rรฉsumรฉ. Iโ€™m not looking to cash in on this or anything. I just want to make things as much of a headache for them as possible. I hate this company with a passion and have zero interest in leaving on good terms. I'm fine with burning bridges.

8 Comments
2024/12/01
21:25 UTC

73

What are the uniform requirements at your employer?

Does the company provide your uniform? Do you wear your own clothes? Do change into your uniform after you get to your workplace, and if so, does your employer compensate you for the time changing in and out of that uniform?

143 Comments
2024/12/01
21:34 UTC

164

How Do I Handle This?

On Wednesday, before the US Thanksgiving holiday, my co-worker was having a hard day and decided to lash out at me. I knew this coworker was having a hard day as they were doing 3 days worth of work in one day, and it was imperative that there be no mistakes. Given that, I said good morning when I arrived and didn't address them again. Around lunch I was speaking to someone else and this coworker lashed out, called me a female dog and yelled that I am constantly degrading their work. Their work has nothing to do with me and since I don't know their job, I have no opinion of their work.

I return to work in 15 hours and I am not sure how to be. I am very upset that I am the person they chose to lash out at, and I would usually handle that by being polite, but withdrawing from interaction. That being said, this coworker will push and push until you completely ignore them or act in your "usual" manner. This being a small satellite office for a large company makes it hard.

33 Comments
2024/12/01
21:16 UTC

14

107 applications Since Aug 8th

I walked out on my last job for a multitude of reasons. I knew finding a new job would be hard and I was right. 107 applications Since august 8th (when I quit). Even before I quit I was still applying. So the real number should be around 200 if not more.

I always bomb interviews because social interactions are extremely difficult for me.

Thank you for reading

1 Comment
2024/12/01
19:45 UTC

307

After weeks of remote interviews and one final on-site equivalent of "Survivor", you make the cut. But then it requires 7 straight weeks of training (Mon-Sat) at a remote facility. Flights, hotel and lunch is covered, plus $140/wk stipend, but no salary until after graduation. Worth it for $29/hr?

Job: United Airlines Flight Attendant.

62 Comments
2024/12/01
18:56 UTC

1,030

Was interrogated over misplaced keyes on my off time... I knew who had them, they claimed they had me on video never passing them off...

So this all happened over the course of the last three days. Little back story, I was the manager, at least the part-time manager of a dispensary, while also being the lead budtender. While closing with my boss, I realized I didn't have the manager keys. During my last break, I never got them back from an employee. Who Ended up taking them home with her.

I told the boss he wanted me to call her but neither of us had her number. He assured me He would take care of it and it wouldn't be a problem. 730am The next morning got a phone call from my boss and my manager regarding the keys being misplaced. They claim they called and said she didn't have the keys. I tell them that's impossible.I never got them back from her. They tell me repeatedly to check my personal belongings and my house that I must have them and I must be mistaken.

After talking with my manager and my boss, I get another call from who I assume is my manager because that's what the caller I d says. My security guard ends up being on the other line.Who interrogates me over the keys and tries to get me to admit culpability. I say that I don't know where the keys are, and he immediately interjects, "so you lost them. That's a bad look.I'm going to tell your boss." Then he hangs up...

You gotta understand at this point that I think that my job is on the line. I'm stressed.Im anxious, my boss, manager, and the security guard have all called me saying that I have something that I know that I don't have. They left me in that state for about three hours with no heads up. Even after the associate who I said had the keys had turned around, went home and found them. I then get a call 3 hours later from my boss after I had sent my resignation into h.R. I had already been thinking about leaving this job. Then, being accused of something that I hadn't done And being put into such a bad mental mind state before my shift even began because they wouldn't believe me rubbed me wrong. Because that piece of shit security guard is so incompetent He can't even check cameras correctly.

So my boss calls me and informs me that I didn't have the keys which I knew and I fucking blew up on him. I ask why the fuck was I left on such a disheartening note without any notification that I was right and that you're accusations were false? They claimed the store got busy and they forgot after they had called me half a dozen times that morning. I got Talked into coming in on a holiday after that. That was my mistake.

It was already scheduled.I took the day off before due to the incident of them accusing me. My condition for returning was that I got an apology from the security guard and the manager who made the accusations. The manager was more than willing to accept responsibility and apologized profusely. They told me that they had checked the cameras for a couple of hours and the handoff must have taken place so quickly that it wasn't apparent. I say that's fine.I don't ever want to have the security guard call me at home again.I don't work for him.He's not my boss.Don't give him your phone to call me. No problem, says her.

The security guard then comes up to me, Grabs me by the arm and asks me to come to the back to talk. I straightened up, and I followed them to the back. He turns to me and says, "So we're good, right?" I say no, I don't ever wanna hear you in my phone in the morning again.I don't work for you. He doesn't take that well.He immediately escalates the confrontation, gets in my face, nose to nose, and threatens to beat my ass over my boundary and other boomer manerisms when they are triggered. Lies about the boss telling him to do it after I had been told from the boss himself he had specifically told the guard NOT to call me until the associate had gone home and checked for the keyes. He doubles down, lying his ass off, while He literally has a gun on his waist, threatening me as the store's opening with the manager and boss in the other room.

They pulled me aside after they broke up the confrontation before it physical, and he tried to accuse me of escalating it. Then they tried to get me to work the day, and I left about a half hour later with no intention of ever coming back. Resigned. I have no faith HR or the owner will penalize the person in question. He has been there longer, HR is literally sleeping with the owner, and I had already expressed my desire to leave. It was literally one of the most stressful jobs I've had. I started as part-time, got promoted due to 75% of the senior staff leaving, and that should have been my que. I ignored it due to convenience and money, but even those things can't convince me to stay in a hostile work environment. This all happened over thanksgiving.

TL;DR: GOT ACCUSED OF HAVING A KEY SET THAT I KNEW I DID NOT HAVE ON MY OFF HOURS. NON-APOLOGY TURNED INTO A CONFRONTATION WITH AN BOOMER ARMED SECURITY GUARD WHO IS THE SOFTEST BABY BACK BITCH EVER. LEFT JOB.

64 Comments
2024/12/01
18:42 UTC

284

My boss (40M) makes me (23F) very uncomfortable.

Hello, all! I was hoping for some outside perspective on this matter.

I started working in a new (small) company of six people in September. My probation period actually end this coming week. This company consists of all people in their 30-40s and are three women (including me) and three men (including the director).

As I am new, I'd had a lot of 1:1 training with my boss. It started off completely fine. But then he started throwing in comments and actions I deem inappropriate.

Over the months I've been there, he has:

  • called me a "boss bitch"
  • grabbed my shoulders from behind whilst I was seated
  • asks me about my boyfriend around once a week, like "how is he?" or making comments like, "oh, he seems so nice, I'd love to meet him" when I don't bring him up much
  • asked me if he wanted me to sit next to him when it was just us two in the office, "so I don't get lonely" (I said no)
  • keeps pairing us together like we have the same seniority (e.g "me and you will show them how it's done", "you can be the boss around here like me")
  • gives me excessive compliments
  • told another colleague randomly that me and the boss are going to have dinner together (we are not!)
  • has blown me kisses goodbye when I leave the office

And most recently:

  • said "move out the way, (insert my boyfriend's name)" in a work meeting, when me and my male colleague got a joint compliment as we work in the same division. This colleague was not present when this comment was made.

There is no HR and I thought the behaviour would stop if I didn't entertain it, but last week showed me that's not true, considering he thought it would be funny to make a joke about me and my colleague cheating on our partners with each other, when me and my colleague have a strictly professional relationship.

Overall, he gives me the creeps and I hate being alone around him. Everyone else is kind and professional, but it's my boss who oversteps boundaries frequently. I do like my job, but if I need to, I'll just join another business, but do you think it's worth talking to him about it? Considering there is no HR, I worry that he will punish me in some way for confronting him, because he could. There's nobody above him and he doesn't seem to be a very reasonable person, thus far.

What would you do or recommend?

Thank you in advance!

166 Comments
2024/12/01
18:29 UTC

41

Verbally accosted by indirect supervisor. Meeting tomorrow between her, my supervisor, and director. Seriously considering going scorched earth and trying to talk some sense into myself.

I work for CPS in my state, and Iโ€™ve shared frustrations before about the overwhelming demands and toxic workplace dynamics. Recently, however, things have escalated to the point where I feel I am being harassed by an indirect supervisorโ€”the foster care (FC) supervisor. For context, Iโ€™ve been with CPS for four years, and sheโ€™s been there for seven. I am an LMSW and three months away from testing for my LICSW, while she just graduated with her MSW this past July.

To be blunt, the FC supervisor has fostered an extremely toxic environment throughout her tenure. When I first started at CPS, I was in her unit, but her treatment drove me to request a transfer after just seven months. Since moving to investigations, Iโ€™ve thrived. Despite no longer being under her supervision, she has continued to be passive-aggressive toward me, and this behavior has only intensified since my husband started working at CPS.

My husband was hired over a year and a half ago at the recommendation of our former director. She knew he was leaving law enforcement and encouraged him to apply. Weโ€™ve worked well together ever since, maintaining professional boundaries and treating each other like coworkers during work hours. However, the FC supervisorโ€™s behavior has worsened dramatically since he joined, becoming more hostile and overtly targeting both of us.

For example, she has advocated for her workers to avoid on-call duties, citing mental health concerns, while openly sharing their personal health informationโ€”an apparent violation of privacy laws. Yet, when I requested to temporarily step back from on-call duties just days after being discharged from the ICU following a near-death experience, she accused me and my husband of expecting โ€œspecial treatment.โ€ This accusation came during a meeting where she berated us in front of the new director and our supervisor.

To add context, my husband and I have consistently stepped up to cover on-call shifts, including during emergencies. Over the past year, weโ€™ve covered for two employees who suffered strokes, even during times that were personally challenging for us. I was 34 weeks pregnant during one of those periods, yet I still worked on-call shifts. I also took on-call the week before I gave birth and the week I returned from maternity leave. Despite this, the FC supervisor continues to accuse us of not contributing, while her own unit rarely steps up to help with coverage.

The most recent incident occurred last Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving. The FC supervisor emailed me, my husband, and another investigator, requesting that we transport a foster child two hours away. She gave only three hoursโ€™ notice despite knowing about the transport for two days. Her unit had workers available, but she insisted that we handle it. She also stated that if no one volunteered by 3:00 PM, we would be โ€œvoluntold.โ€

We had already explained that we couldnโ€™t assist due to existing obligations and saw no reason to reiterate ourselves. At 2:30 PM, the third investigatorโ€”a new worker who is still on probationโ€”came into my office in tears. The FC supervisor had pressured her, saying that if my husband and I didnโ€™t do it, she would have to, even though she had urgent first-contact victims to see that day. These contacts were on a strict five-day deadline and couldnโ€™t be delayed due to the holiday.

Shortly after, the FC supervisor came into our hallway, furious that we hadnโ€™t replied to her email. When I tried to explain our position, she immediately began yelling over me. I calmly told her that this behavior is why people avoid talking to herโ€”because she bulldozes and silences them. Her response was to lash out, claiming, โ€œNo one in my unit likes you anyway. All you do is talk about people. You think theyโ€™re your friends? They talk about you all the time. You canโ€™t trust them.โ€

These accusations were baseless and meant to hurt. I make it a point to remain neutral, even when members of her unit come to me upset about her treatment of them. While Iโ€™ve vented about the job (as most people do), Iโ€™ve never personally attacked anyone. Her comments were unprofessional and crossed a line.

She also accused us of โ€œnever helping her unitโ€ and claimed that we were โ€œsitting around doing nothingโ€ while working on documentation in the office. This is demonstrably false. Over the past three months alone, someone from investigations has stepped in to help her unit after hours more than 30 times. This doesnโ€™t include times when my husband has de-escalated hostile clients, taken cases to protect her workers, or covered her unitโ€™s on-call shifts.

During the heated exchange, I did respond with some unkind words once she began making personal attacks. My comments were harsh, but they were rooted in truthโ€”I bluntly told her that her behavior is a problem for everyone in the office and that many people feel mistreated by her. While my delivery may not have been ideal, I stand by the message. I fully intend to take responsibility for my words and acknowledge that I could have communicated my frustrations more professionally. However, I will not apologize, as I believe itโ€™s important to hold her accountable for the way her actions impact others. My goal moving forward is to address these issues constructively and ensure that this behavior is no longer tolerated.

Her behavior is part of a long-standing pattern. Two years ago, she verbally accosted a coworker of mine, and when I defended him, she turned her anger toward me. At the time, I backed down, but Iโ€™ve grown since then and will no longer tolerate her bullying.

Her actions go beyond unprofessionalism and into unethical territory. She has inserted herself into cases involving personal connections, blocked relative placements out of personal bias, and even harassed a foster child. In one incident, she got into a teenagerโ€™s face, attempting to force the child to smile. When the child set boundaries and threatened to hit her if she didnโ€™t back off, the FC supervisor continued to escalate the situation. Afterward, she said she โ€œwishedโ€ the child had hit her so they could just be sent to a facility and her unit would no longer have to find a placement.

Additionally, during the moments when she decides that she does, in fact, like me, she spends a lot of time in my office venting about how her workers donโ€™t do anything and she has to do their jobs for them. when she returned from educational leave, I made the comment to her that one of her workers had done a really good job stepping up and keeping the unit together in her absence. She rolled her eyes and stated, โ€œYeah, but she didnโ€™t bother doing her own work.โ€

A meeting has been scheduled for Monday to address this most recent issue. I fully expect her to manipulate the situation, as she has in the past. I also expect little support from my supervisor, who often remains passive, or from our new director, who avoids conflict. However, Iโ€™m done letting her behavior go unchecked.

I know my tendency to get emotional when Iโ€™m angry, and I want to ensure I present myself professionally while standing firm. I plan to bring documentation of all the ways investigations has supported her unit to counter her false claims, but I also want to make it clear what my next steps will be if this behavior continues.

How can I effectively communicate my concerns and advocate for myself without letting my emotions take over? I love my job and the work I do, but this toxic environment is becoming unbearable, and I refuse to let her continue harassing me or my coworkers unchecked.

35 Comments
2024/12/01
17:54 UTC

1,010

If they want two weeks notice to quit, how about two weeks pay to fire?

In other words, unless an employee is caught committing a crime, every employer should have to pay at least 80 hrs to an employee to fire them. This should just be added to the cost of doing business.

120 Comments
2024/12/01
16:23 UTC

23,176

HR re-opened my vacation request to decline it WHILE I WAS ON VACATION. I AM GOING TO QUIT ONCE I COME BACK. FUCK THEM

This is so fucked up.

I literally just landed in a whole other country just to see this when I opened my phone.

My supervisor tried calling me but fuck him fuck that company fuck everyone involved.

I swear I was already looking for a reason to quit.

966 Comments
2024/12/01
15:04 UTC

3,191

I failed a Team Building Exercise because I wouldn't agree to the wrong answer

As part of onboarding training for a class of new employees, my training group of 7-8 people had to do a team building exercise in our second week.

Maybe some of you have heard of this one. The scenario is you imagine you and your team are on a sinking ship. On your way to the life raft, you can grab number of items to use for your survival floating at sea. There is a list of 12 completely random items like pen, rope, netting, empty soda can, a can of tuna, etc. I forget what exactly, but I remember the empty soda can and... a sextant.

Now I remember those two items exactly because this is where the problem lay. I had already done this exact same activity a few years before with a different organization, so I already knew some of the best responses. I remembered the empty soda can was useful to signal passing ships and airplanes, while the sextant was the least useful because no one in this age knows how to use a sextant.

Only... the dumbasses in this group, not even taking this seriously all wanted to bring the sextant for sure because they "thought it was funny" to use the sextant "to kill whales and eat the meat from their dead bodies."

I tried telling them that sextant was the trap answer, but they wouldn't listen. Then from there, everything else was just joke answers. I was so annoyed that I scribbled my own answers on a separate paper and tallied my own score when the answers were read.

I had a 65% chance of survival while the team's group answers were about 20%.

Only, management didn't care about the results as much as how well "everyone worked together." So in their eyes, I was the problem child for going against the grain and not agreeing to let the idiots be in charge of our survival.

As the training continued, I got 100% on each of the three phase tests and achieved things trainers never thought possible. I was let go at the end of training because I wasn't "doing as well" as the trainers hoped.

EDIT - a few comments are getting hung up on a couple details I glossed over because I didn't want this to be a mile long, but rather than re-explaining a hundred times in the comments.

  1. this was a 911 emergency operator position. Training is 1-month in a classroom, then 3 phases of live call-taking as a trainer sits next to us, each 3 weeks long. The exams at the end of each phase are on how well we know police codes, response procedures, and department policy.

  2. related, a few people are pointing out that saying "I achieved things trainers never thought possible" makes me sound like I'm full of myself. What I am referencing is multiple trainers telling us that we will never hear "thank you" in our line of work. During my live-training, I had at least three people call back and ask to speak to me so they could thank me for helping them. I took a lot of pride in how I conducted myself and treated every caller with dignity and respect. I would expect that of every civil servant, but the image of police has taken a significant nosedive in the past few years.

  3. a few more had conjured up the image of me just stewing with anger in the corner while everyone else was having a great time laughing and having fun at this exercise. I was also enjoying the activity and got along very well with my classmates. This was literally 30 minutes out of the 160 hours we spent together. I get that this was a team-building exercise and the point was to come to an agreement, but when someone in the group says to everyone "hey, I've done this activity before at my last job. These are the answers." only to be brushed aside, yeah, it's annoying. But I wasn't some Grinch secretly hoping for this whole thing to turn into a disaster.

And while I don't think THIS was the reason why I was let go, I do believe it was the first red mark in my file that put a target on my back.

552 Comments
2024/12/01
15:00 UTC

18

Whataburger help

I am a crew member and have a team leader who would bring in their 10 yr old kid on the weekends and give them free food through their shift and make them sleep on the booths in front of the counter and say watch my child to who ever happens to be on the floor so we have to juggle between baby sitting and giving the kid what it wants like the moms phone or snacks and food or be like play toys with me and be so loud and obnoxious even patrons are confused and there has been times were the kid would open the bathroom for strangers and give them the code as well as run around the store ,also the team leader is notorious for being rude and lazy by all the staff including managers sitting in the office all day eating burgers or taquitos and always having a attitude she acts like a different person when the manager above her is around through ,should I contact hr because we dont get paid to watch a kid says me and most of the store crew

Sorry didnโ€™t want to put to much detail but she has a nice newer 2020+ vehicle until I heard it was in a accident and she said she works at Whataburger on the weekends and does small shifts at the Childs school as a cafeteria worker and is recently moving to a bigger apartment downtown of the city and she has her Childs father as I seen her give him 3 free meals all the time even though we shouldnโ€™t give free meals out and I heard he is getting into her life more now that her older kids donโ€™t stay with her and how she is always talking about her money and she told a girl there if it works she donโ€™t need a babysitter itโ€™s just that I donโ€™t want to be responsible for her kid so I switched shifts but it still happens I saw it today and funny thing is today after I clocked out she told her child to go nap and when I go to nap in the lobby after doing a 10hr before I meet up with someone she said donโ€™t sleep and if I am going to sit I need to be awake like mam you are not the person in charge my manager is still back there waiting for you to take your absolute time in doing everything you need to do I stated dumbed founded like never have I had been told to not take a nap in my own job , and when she comes in she finds something โ€œwrongโ€ always itโ€™s so much reasons , she is supposed to be helping us in the front not from the back in the office with a whole breakfast platter ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

34 Comments
2024/12/01
14:36 UTC

393

How many of you wish you could leave?

This isn't a cry post or venting. The wife and I were sitting around watching the news on YouTube and we both realized that if we weren't paycheck to paycheck and she wouldn't lose custody of the kiddos we'd probably move.

It surprised me a little because while I've always been pretty clear eyed about what America is, the good and the ugly, I've never felt degraded enough to give up before. I like the idea of America we sell in public schools and TV shows. The scrappy good guys that are always trying to do the right thing. Obviously that's not what America is, but i liked that we aspired to it at least.

For the record, this ain't even about Trump either. Trump is just a symptom. It's the way things have been going for probably 50 years now. I just don't see it turning around. Money has too much power and it's a capitalist system with no ties to the people so that's not going anywhere.

Now I'm old and cynical and I just want to go somewhere I'm not a serf. I actually have a skillset that makes me immigratable, if that's a word, and the wife's got a masters in psych so there might be some open doors, but alas, we live in America and thus, even with qualifications and just renting a house for the kids, we have no money lol.

How many of you guys feel like this? Like at this point your money is just going to kill kids in some far away place instead of funding actual "Public" college so we could be a little less ignorant or public Healthcare so we could be less sick and cripplingly poor? How many of you guys just kinda wish you could shake your head and walk away?

Edit: missed a letter

212 Comments
2024/12/01
14:27 UTC

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Possibly suspended but still so embarrassing

So I just received an email from our employee relations department that I didnโ€™t do an annual health assessment and my manager and lead were CCd and attached was a suspension letter that I was asked to have signed and be taken off the schedule until I do the damn health assessment.

Iโ€™m a clinical research coordinator and my job entails billions of emails. So for this health assessment we got constant emails reminding us to complete by a certain deadline and I kept getting these emails and thought they were auto generated to everyone who hadnโ€™t done them yet so I ignored them because I thought I had done it because you have to do a flu vaccine which I did and sign a digital form filling out a bunch of health questions which I did but my dumbass forgot to submit it and simply saved it.

SO anyways I get this email that I am gonna be suspended however I noticed that the suspension letter was dated 4 days from now when the assessment is past due because the health assessment is actually due in 4 days but they sent it early because of the holiday so I quickly saw that the form wasnโ€™t submitted after receiving the email and just submitted and replied to the email explaining that. The only thing I am worried is can they still suspend me and since my boss and other lead saw that will I be looked down upon severely ๐Ÿ˜ซ Iโ€™m such a goodie goodie so this shit realllyyyyytt bothers me because I feel so stupid and embarrassed.

2 Comments
2024/12/01
10:25 UTC

1,509

Fuck HR

I was terminated from my last job back at the beginning of October. Since then I've gotten a short-term job while applying to something long term. I heard back from the longer term job I was applying to and I was rejected because I couldn't provide a reason for my termination from the last company.

My jurisdiction requires employers to provide former employees a written statement within 10 business days outlining the reason why they were terminated (if applicable, I live in an "at-will state") and the effective date. So I emailed their HR Director and requested a statement. She refused to provide it, saying that those were "internal company documents that can not be disclosed to outside parties." After the 10 days is up I'll be filing a complaint with Labor and Industries.

HR is not your friend.

59 Comments
2024/12/01
07:25 UTC

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