It’s hard to look forward to anything or atleast feel hopeful for a better day if every second I’m being reminded. It’s a constant loop despair. I feel cursed and really screwed up the only life I had. Can you truly ignore the symptoms if you know realistically it’s physically impossible?

I work construction and we were starting a new job Monday so I had an hour and 45 minutes drive to work. Since things have been pretty quiet with the voices, I started thinking about all the things they put me through all the things I have seen . I noticed the voices started to comment on it and they were coming in clear enough for me to understand what they were saying. So I tried a different approach. I told myself this week. I’m not gonna think about anything that they put me through. I’m gonna leave the past behind me and start looking forward. For example, my oldest son was coming back home Friday to watch the NFL draft and to grill out with me. We are huge bears fans so it was a big deal and I haven’t seen my son for a while because he works a lot and lives over an hour away. once I started to think positive like that things started to get quiet again on Tuesday. One thing that I quiet noticed I struggle with when voices are quiet Is that when I’m talking to people I catch myself singing in my head. I think it’s because I’m so used to things being hectic and when I would talk to people in the past. I always had voices talking to me at the same time I need to learn how to relax and enjoy one on one conversations with people. I start week three tomorrow. I already have plans to go on a hike with my daughter next weekend at a state park. I’m not looking back. I’m gonna look forward to that this week. as of today, they’re pretty quiet. The only thing I’m really picking up is the tone they use like if they’re angry or desperate for attention, but can’t make out the words . Wishing everybody the best out there stay strong

I am 24 F from India. Recently started to hear voices ‘woman crying for help’ it is scary each time i hear it. I get that voice when i am alone. I have consulted a practitioner psychiatrist and she has given me some knowledge about this. It is scary when it happens when no one is around and cannot make anyone believe what is happening to me. I am a very joyful person and recently had multiple abortions. And doctor’s view is, because of the post traumatic stress and some of things which I couldn’t explain to anyone. Also suggested to go for medication under specialist doctor. My concern is when it will be gone completely? Will i ever be normal? It is scary

I started hearing voices about 2 years ago. Initially it was quite the wild ride because I was also delusional, so I thought I was hearing God, the devil, ‘the universe’, people who have passed on and more. This changed to me believing a woman had somehow broken into my house and put a tiny device in my ear that allowed her to talk to me and to read my thoughts. After a trip to the doctor who found nothing in my ear I had to admit the voice was my own. In the absence of delusional thoughts, which I presume stopped because my brain is healing, I have a much different experience with what is now a singular voice. Occasionally I will question its identity to myself, to which it responds, “I am whatever you want me to be. You make the rules.” The only contention is that I have to ‘believe with my whole heart’ that the voice is what I ‘want’ to believe it to be. In other words I have to be delusional to actually believe it is anything other than my own voice in there. It is definitely baffling the way the interaction between my voice and I feels so very conversational. It’s like my voice has its own thought processes apart from my own. I myself believe it’s just me in there…that my brain is just ‘broken’. That somehow the internal voice that we all (or most) have became audible for me. Have your voices changed over time?

1. don’t ever do anything that you would not have done before you heard voices.
2. All these Voices do Is lie And try to get you to turn against everything and everybody you love They are nothing but glorified telemarketers don’t buy their shit. Surround yourself with trust worthy people and nothing else. I noticed when I have trouble with a certain person they emphasize on that person. And then months later I have trouble with someone else and they emphasize on them and don’t say much about the last time. It’s just the flavor of the month for them to attack.
3. they can’t see anything and they don’t know anything that you don’t tell them. They only hear you when you think at them, and you only hear them when they think about you. Think of it as if you’re on the telephone and you put them on hold, They know that so they use a catchphrase so you explain what you were talking about to them. They read you like the blind reads braille. They also use catchphrases to get your attention. It might be a compliment or something that pisses you off. when they use a catchphrase, don’t respond to them.

4 Fill in the blanks when they talk in riddles or start a sentence and leave it for you to finish. They are just trying To see how you feel about that situation. They are breaking you down. 5. If you need a break from your voice Get a pair of earbuds put only one earbud in One ear listen to music at a low volume then watch TV Focus on what’s on TV with the music in the background this makes voices a third-party and hard to understand what they are saying try to find more ways to make them a third-party It’s a good exercise to train your self how to block them out if possible use the one earbud at work and focus on your job, if you’re not working, try to start with some volunteer work or a part-time job and then work your way up to full-time it’s the first big step to taking in your life back. 6. Don’t let them attach themselves to situations. For example if something bad happens to you or someone you know they’re going to tell you that they are responsible for it they are not 7. When voices are getting hostile and saying they’re going to kill you and your family, stay calm. They’re not gonna do anything. They feed off fear and hate. Defuse the situation. Now I just laugh at them when they try to get tough. I spent too many nights sitting outside my house. I would see demons so finally I just walked up And tried to grab them And they would fizz away like a hologram. if you’re not ready to try to grab them, get a laser pointer and point it at them it will go right through them. This is an energy that is attached to us. they use our eyes like projectors. That’s why no one else can see them and they fizzle away like a hologram when you grab them. it can also adapt to real objects like coats on a coat rack, or anything cluster together just rearrange it, and it will go away some people refer to it as Shapeshifting. . They are all talk.All they can do is trick you into hurting yourself or others. They have no real power over you. Be strong! 8. you are not alone go to hearing voices network there you can find weekly zoom meetings with people that hear voices. 9. Divide and Devour. That is their goal. To separate you from your loved ones and close friends then they will tell you that they’re the only ones that care about you. they are setting you up for a life of misery. Don’t go down that road. 10. Make a list of the top three things voices are attacking You about. Become secure with yourself. The past doesn’t mean shit, it’s who you are today that matters. Who are they to judge? Look at what they are trying to do to you. 11. Don’t be afraid to sleep, nothing is going to happen to you. Things just get worse with sleep deprivation. I tell Them I’m going to sleep like a baby every night before I go to bed. It’s all about taking control. 12. They read You in your dreams, your insecurities, your fears and anything else they can attack. I wake up in the middle of the night and find myself having a conversation with them. I call it second shift. Become secure with who you are and it will carry into your subconscious. It’s all about taking control. 13. stay sober you need to be sharp to make it through this. 14. If you see your kid or loved ones turn into a demon don’t panic, it’s just an illusion. This energy is using your eyes like projectors again, and it can adapt to peoples faces When you hear bad things on the news people say “ What were they thinking” It’s because they have no idea what we are going through. Don’t be a statistic. Once you find out how weak they really are it gets easier time is their enemy. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem I took my life back from these voices And so can you! Once you take control and show them they have no power over you. You will get your life back. Be a fighter every day I call it alarm clock pistol from the minute you get up. 15. When you’re seeing demons: It’s always the worst at night. When the sun comes up, they go down. Stay strong the sun will always rise. 16. if you’re on the street and people come up and say weird shit to you don’t panic. These are people that hear voices too, and do what they’re told they are called cronies a lot of people refer to this as gang stocking. just go on your way and don’t give them the satisfaction of an altercation. 17. I know it is frustrating but don’t push your loved ones away. They cannot possibly understand what we are going through. They just love and worry about us and don’t know how to help. This is hard on everybody. 18. I have come to understand that these voices feed off bad energy like hate and fear. They thrive off it. You need to let the hate go. you feel like you have had your life taken away by these voices. There will come a time when you no longer fear them. That’s when you find out how weak They really are. I figured this out by Making fun of them in a playful way Like you would bust your friends balls and they couldn’t come hard At me. But when I wanted to kill these voices that’s when they would raise hell. You must extinguish the flame. Clean your carburetor. Cut loose from Whatever anchors you down make your life as stress-free as possible and watch them drop. this is truly about seeing who you really are once you overcome this there will be nothing that you can’t handle. and when you rise, help someone else who is going through this, it’s all about people helping people Goodwill is the ambassador. 19. these voices are very sneaky and will try to convince you that they’re here to help you. Here are some ways to put them to the test.

ways to tell if your voices are here for your benefit.#1 do your voices encourage you to work. and if you are working, do they leave you alone while you’re at work? If they are here for your benefit, they will encourage you to work and won’t bother you while you’re at work.#2 do your voices encourage you to be with friends and family? And do they leave you alone when you’re with friends and loved ones? if they are trying to turn you against friends and family or your spouse and coworkers they are not here for your benefit. If they were, they would help.You find ways to make relationships work instead of trying to turn you against them.#3 do your voices try to convince you to hurt yourself or others? if so, they are not here for your benefit.#4 are your voices friendly for long periods of time and then, when something stressful happens in your life, they attack and make the situation worse? if they do They are not here for your benefit. Be careful with this. They are very patient. If your voices are not here to benefit your life you must take control don’t be tricked into doing something that you would not have done before you heard voices never stray from who you really are.

Thanks so much again to everyone who has felt able to participate in my research so far. I’m at the last stage of recruitment now if anybody is interested in taking part and may not have seen my previous posts:

Hi everyone 🙂. My name is Rachael Lester and I’m a Trainee Clinical Psychologist at the University of Liverpool. I have a longstanding passion and interest in supporting people who hear voices. Because of this, I am doing some research as part of my training to understand more about the development and experiences of voice-hearing, through a non-medical lens.

If you are a voice-hearer or know anybody who is, and may be interested and feel able to take part, you can access the online survey (including more information about the research) using this link: https://livpsych.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_6YJdfo9CxNMKdim

Participation is entirely voluntary and anonymous and takes approximately 30-45 minutes.

In the meantime, if you have any questions please feel free to contact me. Thank you so much for your time and support!

Rachael 🙂

(This research has been granted Ethical Approval via the University of Liverpool Ethics committee)

Hi all, does anybody have advice on how to let go of wondering where voices come from? Like truly let go of wondering, because I’ve driven myself into episodes wondering this question.

The link to the calendar is in the top pinned post with the rest of the collected information about the HVN. See HERE for the post with the link to the calendar. There is no sign up, no attendance, it is free, nothing is recorded, and participation is optional. You do not have to use your camera or say anything if that is how your feel comfortable.

When talking about communities paralleling the methods of peer led free form discussion seen in the HVN; Robert Whitaker (Author and Pulitzer Prize winner) states “after 5 years roughly 85% of the first episode psychotic patients are asymptomatic (fully recovered) and either working or back in school. That’s only 15% who become chronically ill and (reliant) on Finland disability.” Jaakko Siekkula (Clinical Psychologist, Author of Dialogical Meeting in Social Networks) adds these results are with more than 90% of patients taking no medications at all.

I hope you can make it to a meeting, the international HVN community is growing. It seems to offer the most assured path to wellness, with no medications, no negative health effects, and not costing a dime ;)

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Hi everyone, TW suicide, religious I have been dealing with intrusive thoughts. Some are upsetting but I try to not give it power. One of the thoughts is that in church I will stand up and scream swear words in front of everyone. The more painful ones are thoughts of myself being assaulted. Does anyone else have this? Another intrusive thought is realizing how easy it would be to kill myself. I do not want to die, but I have intrusive thoughts about jumping off a bridge or building, crashing my car, stepping into traffic… I have also been dealing with the devil giving me “challenges”. Sometimes its that if I don’t reach the end of the sidewalk before the guy next to me then I will fail at school. What’s going on?

The first four days I didn’t see much of a difference. I heard them talk all day long. I just didn’t respond. They kept saying things like just listen to me for a second doing anything to get a response I wouldn’t give it to them. It’s OK to think to yourself they would mock and repeat what I was thinking and that’s when I noticed how much my thinking process has changed. For example, I saw a 68 Camaro and I thought to myself that’s a nice car just like I was talking to voices what I should’ve thought was just nice car getting back to my original thought process it’s going to take some work. It also got me thinking when my voices first came they were out for blood. They wanted me to harm myself and others after a couple years of standing my ground and letting them know it’s my life and I will decide they tried to be friendly It’s just another way for them to stay attached. i’m on day seven today and they’re not nearly as loud. I can hear certain words, but I just brush them off big difference from having conversations with them all day long. I just got done watching a movie with my little girl and didn’t hear them the whole time she had my full attention today and it feels amazing. I go back to work tomorrow and I’m gonna see this thing all the way through. I am in the right state of mind I have nothing to gain by acknowledging anything they have to say i’m looking forward to next week and things just getting better. To anybody out there who also hears evil voices and sees demons never quit fighting and don’t give them an inch things get easier with time sometimes I don’t know how I’ve made it to where I’m at today, but it can be done.

Have any of you experienced personalities that will think inappropriate or weak thoughts in your mind and blame the mental state on you? I have fools who will make a grandiose entrance and then think very lame thoughts while maintaining the thoughts are mine and not theirs. They then respond or attempt to mock me for their own behavior. What unfathomable fools... Failures a most everything, and masters at being cognitively weak. These beings always present themselves as very young males and maintain the desire to physically fight with me... They are the most self defeating, self evidently tragic, and conflicted sort I have come across. They also regularly attempt to pose as my greatest nemesis and are constantly provoking each other into perverse narrations of sexual mimicry. I struggle to not laugh. I have classified them as an ilk "Perverts." Can you relate?

Doomriders - Heavy Lies the Crown

Heavy lies the crown upon the heads of kings heavy is the price we pay for petty things
Always feel their eyes burning through your back always take the blame for what they lack
Heavy lies the crown
Biting at your heels never let you rest live to twist the knife when you least expect
Heavy lies the crown upon your weary brow heavy is the toll always due right now
Pretenders beware strike you down when you stand

I’ve just had another bad night because THEY tortured my dogs and I with a high pitch sound all night. There’s been fake crying, threats and empty promises all night because I’m ready to post the following and have the authorities do there thing.

When I first came back home in 2021 I had little to no drive to do anything and very little in the way of self confidence. Thanks to the support of my family I slowly, over 2-3? Years, managed to rebuild a life around one simple fact - I should isolate myself to make sure I couldn’t fuck things up again and hurt people I care about.

Over this time I managed to become debt, drug, alcohol and drama free. I tried to get on with my life. That seems like an impossible dream now.

I had no idea that the whole time I was here in Rotherham I was being watched, recorded, ridiculed and both physically and mentally abused.

THEY like to remind me of the abuse and pain that my family have experienced.

THEY play a high pitch noise from around midnight until morning. This has given my mum tinnitus, causes my dogs pain and prevents me from sleeping.

THEY laugh and compliment each other on their ability to send a 64 yr old dementia sufferer into a catatonic state and a week long hospital stay.

THEY have the ability to confuse, degrade and frighten him so much that he cannot speak a full sentence or keep eye contact with his family.

THEY belittle and mock patients at a private medical practice, whilst celebrating there ability to steal data from medical databases(plural), charities, banks, internet service providers, Apple, google and msn accounts, mobile phones, social networking sites and various apps. Nothing is safe.

THEY especially enjoy mocking me and reminding me that any photo or recording I have made of them will be edited or over writtten to confuse the authorities and my family.

THEY get the most pleasure it seems from their presumed ability to control and constantly monitor a person. Their methods include hidden cameras in bedrooms and even the bathroom.

THEY do this to ensure that the person eventually loses the trust of family and friends, requires hospitalisation and medication that is not needed. Sleep deprivation leads to hallucinations and relapse into substance abuse.

THEY have to create the illusion that nowhere is safe and nobody can be trusted for this to happen. Constant fear and doubt of surroundings and people ensues to the point where a person can be manipulated and controlled.

THEY can make a simple matter so influential and shameful that guilt, doubt and paranoia become second nature.

THEY are able to create serious mental illness where there was none before.

This is not enough though. There aim is to END a persons life so that they can cover up what they have done.

………………

If a group of people or a family was able to follow a person around the world without anyone noticing or raising an alarm what would they you think.

Even after they have caused the person to relapse by using suggestion and manipulation techniques for weeks or months prior to the trip.

Even after that person attempts suicide by heading out to sea with no intention of returning.

Spending 14 hours in the water.

Then be abused and violated after being rescued.

Then spending 1 night wandering the streets.

Then spending 2 nights and 3 days in a police station waiting area whilst being delirious, dehydrated, unwashed and experiencing what he later realised was their first attempt to control him.

To be given an emergency passport the day after being literally chased from hotel to hotel by voices that were real people.

All the while this is happening the members of this group are in hysterics about the pain they can inflict and are happy to stand back and watch the person suffer for 9 days and nights in a foreign country he has travelled to alone.

How can that be possible?

…………….

Then, months later, to be convinced that everyone would be safer and better off without you here by voices that know every detail about your life.

THEY laughed and cheered me on as I cut my wrists with a scalpel blade after being forced via blackmail to drink vodka from the bottle whilst driving in circles around city centres, housing estates and country lanes.

……………

These people used to be my friends, my family and are my neighbours. That much is obvious because of how much they know. They have children, respectable professions, wide ranging social circles, influence and a bank balance of with enough to do this and think they get away with it.

Or so they thought.

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For those of you who know what this is about. Times up.

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I’ve had a few messages doubting that all this is real. So. Here are a few pictures of the equipment they have used

Forgive me for my over confidence in previous posts. This is a marathon not a sprint.

I self discharged myself, from hospital on Monday because I have calls to make and things to do to get my life back.

Still some unanswered questions. I do know some things for sure though.

Hot tip - when your voices start to sound like fans enjoying a good show - throw a question at them. In their excitement they answered instantly and were distracted enough for me to complete the task at hand.

I spread some more seeds of wisdom around in a few days.

Track for this one

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For no particular reason, just found it while browsing

Temple of the Fuzz Witch - A Call To Prey

Note the lyrics "I pray to the dark, Magick whispers... Magick has come again."

One of my current favorites off their album "Apotheosis." Meaning the highest point in development, a divine status. All the other tracks on this album seem to also touch upon this phenomenon. Hope you enjoy ;)

I see energies all day every day in every kind of way just as plainly as most would be able to view another person. I'm not sure why. It doesn't bother me too much though it can be bothersome at times. Eyes closed or open it doesn't matter I can basically tell you how many fingers you are holding up while blindfolded because I see your energy too. Anybody else like this?

It's a cycle of different voices but there is a main male voice. Certain trigger words or phrases starts it up, but I can alter what they say. Like say I'm singing a song; I can hear it in the singer's original voice most of the time. I can change what they say but in the same tone. A lot of the time it's in a sing-song way how they're speaking.

Is anyone else's voices repeating what you think?

I have done this twice before for about a month at a time. The way I did it was I just didn’t respond to anything. They said I could still hear them after the first week. They started to get more faint. And then after four weeks, I could barely, hear them at all so I started to talk to them when you do this, it doesn’t take long to get right back where you started. I feel this is an obstacle we are meant to overcome, and it can be done. Five years ago I was talking to a friend when this first started. I told him you’re gonna think I’m crazy but I am hearing voices in my head. He told me you’re not. crazy just don’t listen to them. It’s as easy as that put yourself in the state of mind where nothing they say has any importance. I started today and I haven’t responded to anything they say it’s time to go all the way with this shit.

Margarita Witch Cult - Be My Witch

Be my lover

and be my queen

by my purveyor

of rights unseen

be my enabler

and be my friend

be my beginning

and be my end

be my priestess

and be my whole

be my conscious

and be my soul

be my Devil

and be my God

be whatever you want but be my witch

be my sorcerer

and be my spell

be my heaven

and be my hell

be my kingdom

and be my land

be my leader

and be my lamb...

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I have had voices, what I would call spirits, introduce themselves to me as "witches." A witch being someone who studies magic. They are some of the funniest things I have ever encountered and my best friends. I have seen spirits depicted in other art as this archetype. Have you seen art that carries this narrative or had voices that speak to this?

Someone directly messaged me, very polite by standard standards:

(Paraphrased)

"Hi. I have seen some things you have said and I want to know what do you hear."

My response was: "Hi. I would like to know more about your intentions. No one wants to be studied after being called delusional."

Well, there are some things wrong with this whole picture:

1A. That person did the nice thing by asking directly, (theoretically, since there can be other intentions like gossip, laugh at, study, recommend care for, etc.), by wanting to understand.

Or

1B. That person had one of those more common reactions in the parentheses, and was not truly looking to understand, and therefore was rude to even ask as a way to further their superiority complex.

So:

2A. I would have been rude if they truly wanted to know.

Or:

2B. If they were the rude one, I was as polite as possible.

Which Leaves:

3. Why would anyone who hears voices want to be studied by someone who does not, since some do?

A? Money? Nominal. B? Empathy? That is what HVN is for. C?

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Hi All

Please sign my petition

https://chng.it/ZLLSYy8ymr

I want to imagine for approximately Four minutes and 28 seconds Depending on your location "Quote, unquote"

(Proof! We should always ask an "expert").

That everything is the opposite of the menacing odds Instead of only "1%" Hearing We're Not Alone 99% Do, and the 1% who do not are unusual They do not even have to be called Delusional

(Just ask an expert for those percentages, wink).

Because in those Four minutes and 28 seconds 99% of human kind would be accepted for thinking At all, even a little bit, outside the dusty old box And only 1% would be shunned for being naive

(Be sorry for sharing non-standard experiences).

So, for approximately Four minutes and 28 seconds Please just let me be free to think: That someday, for our race, it could be possible Because all the minutes after that are standard again

For Four minutes, 28 second, NO parentheses above.

Ive been giving much thought towards the correlation between the entities I/we hear (usually two males and a female) and our dream states lately. Nightly, my dreams are manipulated and I speak to them, as I speak to them in my awake state of mind. The dream version of me communicates with them and processes the inner monologue. Most bizarre. Night after night my dreams have become more sequential. I'll often pick up where I left off the night prior. Sometimes the week prior, but I am aware of the reality while in that state.

What if our "dreams" run constantly in our mind? Like, perpetually running dreams (that we submerse into when we fall asleep) are the minds manner of dealing with fear and anxiety? Perhaps there's just always another interactive reenactment of a completely different life we create in our subconscious arena that these entities primarily operate in? What if our active imaginations were actually interactive imaginations?

I mean, think about how perverse, yet free of prosecution your dream states are, then think about the possibility that some other entity is constantly engaged in conversation with this madness that only a few people can actually hear. Maybe these entities never actually lie or are, themselves, no more derogatory or perverse than the subconscious we've created for them to interact in? The more thought I give to this, the more dots are connected. Thoughts, please?