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A common misconception is that when someone displays intense anger or rage, that it is equivalent to a "mental breakdown".
This appears rooted in the Ad Iram fallacy, which equates all anger with inherent irrationality, which is not only logically incorrect, it muddles the water of what "breakdown" actually is meant to describe.
In mental health studies, a "breakdown" is a behavioral pattern in which an individual is so caught up in a singular irrational and incorrect thought-process that they fail in their ability to respond to any other necessary tasks (that they would otherwise would agree are a current higher priority). This results in a total "breakdown" of their capabilities.
People choosing to engaging in expressive anger, however, while maintaining a dedication to an ethical, moral or epistemic dilemmas, corrections or outrages is categorically not the same thing as a breakdown.
The problem is that society as a whole has made a giant push for such extreme collectivism and groupthink that many people insist that if someone is disturbing the peace or disrupting a demand/expectation while utilizing extreme expression (often matched to extreme cases of other's perpetual/dedicated dishonesty or negligence) that this is the same thing as a breakdown. Assumptions are often lauded at people expressing themselves, frequently tied to anchored belief that disruption must always be associated with irrationality; something often instilled in people through collective social and societal frameworks.
Unfortunately as the saying goes, the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and sometimes the only solution to draw attention to perpetual problems is via extreme expression.
It should be noted however that this acknowledgement is not meant to take a misunderstanding and suggest that these are the only reason for disruptive behaviors; there are other reasons people engage in extreme expression beyond breakdowns and protesting actions and expressions. People also engage in such behavior for manipulation purposes, but the actual topic, intentions and ethical justifications have to be taken into account when addressing such behaviors.
MbP, or as it’s now known ‘factitious disorder upon another’, is considered a rare form of child abuse, but it may not be as rare as it is thought to be.
Usually when a physician is duped into this by a crafty parent (usually a mother) it is a pediatrician. But have there been any cases where a psychiatrist is the duped doctor?
Psychiatry, as a unique specialty that is more opinion rather than data based seems particularly prone to attack in this regard.
Could it be that a high percentage of child psychiatrists are unknowingly part of an elaborate abuse mechanism by many well meaning families who are ‘just trying to help their out of control child’ when really there is an underlying unhealthy family dynamic that should be changed instead, but society doesn’t really know how to diagnose or treat that? So instead the child suffers?
Your thoughts please.
It is difficult to understand a field of study that contrary has to readjust the goal posts. Charcot and the classifications of Hysteria have done so much damage. How do we reconcile this?
(This is a painting I did after Brouillet’s, it is 9ft x 11 ft)
When people seek to insult others, we commonly hear words like, “You’re mad,” “You’re crazy,” “You have a mental disorder,” and “You’re mentally ill.” Negative consequences often flow from such name calling. A discussion of Bob's show on madness is a fun way to clarify what this misleading notion is all about: https://www.frominsultstorespect.com/2015/04/16/bob-dylan-on-madness/
A discussion of Grant's experience with depression deepens our understanding of this often misunderstood challenge: https://www.frominsultstorespect.com/2018/08/18/u-s-grants-experiences-with-depression/
Here's a very different perspective of people labeled ADHD than the one promoted by psychiatrist. https://www.frominsultstorespect.com/2014/11/10/adhd-and-the-wisdom-of-william-james/
Those who experience what is sometimes referred to as a nervous breakdown can receive a great many insults as their behavior begins to annoy. A discussion of the Rolling Stones’s hit “19th Nervous Breakdown” insightfully explores this issue. https://www.frominsultstorespect.com/2024/07/01/the-rolling-stones-on-going-insane/
I first came to hear of Dr. Szasz back in 1971when I was taking an undergraduate Abnormal Psychology course at Brooklyn College. One of the assigned readings was Dr. Szasz’s article, published in the American Psychologist, titled "The Myth of Mental Illness." https://www.frominsultstorespect.com/2019/09/05/my-radical-psychiatrist-friend-dr-szasz/
Philosopher, MD, and Psychologist, William James's challenged the pathologizing of "ADHD.": https://www.frominsultstorespect.com/2014/11/10/adhd-and-the-wisdom-of-william-james/
David William Oaks is a co-founder and former executive director of MindFreedom International which rejects the domination of the biomedical model of most current psychiatrists. To see what his take is on this labelling issue, I provide with his permission an abbreviated version of his “Let’s Stop Saying ‘Mental Illness’” article. https://www.frominsultstorespect.com/2023/05/21/disliking-the-mental-illness-label-a-psychiatric-survivors-perspective/
The mental illness construct is often promoted as reducing shame and guilt. Is this claim valid? https://www.frominsultstorespect.com/2016/02/29/the-mental-illness-construct-does-it-reduce-shame-and-guilt/
Contrasts the psychiatric understanding of these experiences to a natural functioning understanding: https://www.frominsultstorespect.com/2020/06/04/the-nature-of-depression-and-melancholy/
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My question is what is marplan like the forgot maoi
Nardil is popular as its benefits of gaba and helping social anxiety and regular anxiety
Parnate is amphetamine like with its stimulant and dopamine properties
So what is marplan like and what's it help with most
Also I'd love to try combo it with nardil as there's not much chance of serotonin syndrome
Makes the case that it is not science to blame, it is the psychiatric business model that is utilizing the respect that the public has for science. https://www.frominsultstorespect.com/2014/09/22/psychiatric-name-calling-is-science-to-blame/