/r/AntiSchooling
A subreddit for learning about the arguments in favour of the abolition of compulsory education, and a place to vent and share news on this topic.
This subreddit isn't for a specific group. Current and former students, disillusioned teachers, parents, and anarchists are welcome.
AntiSchooling is not anti-education, anti-learning, or anti-intellectual; it’s anti-coercive education. The noncoercive alternative being self-directed education, which includes democratic schools, and unschooling.
Recommended essays and articles
Occupy Your Brain - Carol Black
What If Medicine’s First Principle Were Also Education’s? - Peter Gray
How Public Education Cripples Our Kids, and Why - John Taylor Gatto
School is Bad for Children - John Holt
NO! AGAINST ADULT SUPREMACY - Samantha Godwin, Kathleen Nicole O’Neal, Cevin Soling, Damien Sojoyner, Marc Silverstein
See the AntiSchooling library for more.
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This is my Chromebook, this, and the excuse of our education system has driven up the wall thus far. I don't wanna talk about it, I don't wanna lament anymore, pretty soon, this will be my head.
Anyone else see this bullshit on r/publicfreakouts when there’s a video of a teacher screaming at a student. It’s absolute bullshit. “Context” is something narcissists like to cite to minimize their actions. Take for example that one video of the teacher screaming about the calculator, or the one video where the New York PE teacher is calling the one student a “fake tough guy” (the latter of which is clearly a narcissist, because he’s made that somebody is standing up to him), or that one teacher in Atlanta who said to that one black student, “Don’t look it me like that, because that’s how people like you get shot, and I might be the one pulling the trigger!”
People just genuinely had children for no reason.
I estimate only 1/45 people to be truly AntiSchool here in Canada. Do people like being forced to do things?? Is it just fear of change that drives humans to cling onto a worn out tradition? I would be delighted to hear if my estimate is wrong and most individuals you come across are actually AntiSchool.
It's important that we acknowledge where the anti-schooling movement has been successful. We've achieved several things over the years. Here's some local achievements:
2005/06 Ontarians across the political spectrum unite in opposition to Bill 52, Education Amendment Act (Learning to Age 18), 2006. The bill is reduced in scope to no longer impose the requirement that students prove compliance with compulsory school attendance rules to receive a drivers' license or amend the Highway Traffic Act. The bill is also amended so that charges for truancy for those at least 16 years old won't apply until a day to be named by proclamation of the Lieutenant Governor, instead of 16-18 year olds being able to be charged on the day the bill receives royal assent.
2016 Every single provision Bill 52, Education Amendment Act (Learning to Age 18), 2006 that was set to come into force on a day to be named by proclamation of the Lieutenant Governor is repealed for being unproclaimed. Students at least 16 years cannot be charged with trunacy.
2023 The government introduces a new exception allowing for students in apprenticeships to not have to attend school - Note this provision is not yet in force.
What has your country or city or region achieved?
Have you ever heard that you aren't supposed to start a sentence with "and"?
This is something that K-12 curriculum will teach you as gospel.
It is nowhere to be found in Strunk and White's Elements. In fact, Strunk and White start quite a few sentences with coordinating conjunctions in this book. Also, this rule did not exist in any capacity until the 20th century, and the Chicago Manual of Style actually calls it a misconception. Several sources suggest that it was actually put in place by primary school teachers.
The existence of different style guides, including AP style, Chicago Manual of Style, etc., isn't even something you learn about until college. You only learn about a single version of "Proper English..." and never once learn the difference between grammar and style.
We are told that ain't ain't a word, because ain't ain't in the dictionary, yet the word is in most dictionaries listed as a informal or nonstandard term, which is distinct from it "not being a word." Contractions in general, not just ain't, tend to be discouraged from formal writing.
Are we supposed to spell out numbers below 10, or numbers below 100? And when, if ever, do we always spell them out? What exceptions are there? Again, depends on the teacher and the style guide, but I find that K-12 teachers tend to teach their personal preference and/or what the school textbook says as gospel. This is analogous to only teaching C or C++ as just "proper programming," or teaching only the underhand grip as "proper table tennis."
There are many people out there who rag on the teaching of evolution in schools as "not teaching both sides," yet the way that English is taught in K-12 school is the real controversy not being taught.
A lot of kids go through life thinking passive voice is just plain incorrect. It isn't. Professional writers use it all the time. Sometimes, the only alternative is overusing "someone" or "people."
The Oxford comma, or lack thereof, is a hot debate. AP style now allows it, despite forbidding it. But I think the primary argument for the Oxford comma doesn't hold much water. "The former President, a reality TV star and a business magnate", when referring just to Trump, can be rewritten with Em dashes – "The former president – a reality TV star and a business magnate – is quite popular with my uncle." vs. "The former president, a reality TV star and a business magnate were all present at the symposium. Barack Obama and Mark Zuckerberg were clearly engaged when Simon Cowell took center stage."
The rule of not ending a sentence with a preposition, which has somewhat fallen by the wayside in professional journalism, also wasn't an original rule of English, especially considering the long tradition of the phrasal verb. It was added by a line of 18th-century grammarians who, to put it simply, wish they spoke Latin, and also noticed that upper-class Brits who also knew Latin were less likely to use such a trait.
Split infinitives? Again, a product of those same grammarians. You actually can't split an infinitive in Latin since it is one word. "To" is also arguably a particle, not part of the infinitive.
Double negatives? English was actually originally a negative concord language, like Spanish today. The Spanish and Mexicans are doing just fine. In fact, "Neither/Nor" is arguably a vestige of this.
Are articles adjectives? What about demonstratives? Are they in fact determiners? Who knows.
Singular they? That goes back to Chaucer. Oxford Dictionary didn't have to update as much as Websters, since OED already mentioned some uses of singular they.
Also, I think there's something to be said about ELA teachers thinking that their role also comes with being a morality teacher, a critic of society as a whole, and a champion of the status quo.
I Didn't go to school in person for over a month (my last time ever attending school in person was June 6th, 2024). I was enrolled in my School District's Virtual program for 22 days (October 7th-October 29th). I was initially going to drop out when I turned 16, but thanks to my dad, I'm now being homeschooled and I'm done with that hellhole that abuses kids and enslaves them FOREVER! Thanks Dad!
These places are not safe at all... dangerous places that cause life changing brain effects. Shit 3rd world countries is probably the best place to go to school you ☠️ someone bribe the cops no biggie. Just run away afterwards
I understand the current education system in western countries is based on slavery and needs to be abolished. But this doesn't mean the non Western countries are closer to the goal of this movement. Many anti west regimes claim to be socialist or leftist but their education systems are far worse ( so as their political systems) . Just search for the treatment of students in China Vietnam or North Korea. So the anti west sentiment cannot become to extreme and posts from latestagecapitalism are inappropriate
it is common that we need a high school diploma for a job and stuff. we have tolerated that it is necessary. life is generally difficult, and we need to do these things to get money. but you are on this subreddit for a reason! you are pro-antischooling and youthlib! what's the point in going when you advocate against schooling? why are you saying that it's disappointing that no one is advocating to get rid of school when you aren't advocating as well? of course you can promote antischooling on reddit as well but taking the risk of not going to school is honestly more of a massive step. i apologize if you have abusive parents who will force you to go, but if they are generally tolerant you should not. we should all follow our thoughts do activism for anti-schooling as you do it for other ideas!! take the risk!! https://youtu.be/_PmRdD-zbAI?si=T09EHCVJ8-6mQnto great song with motivating lyrics
i am thinking i should start 1 so we can discuss shit and stuff. should I? DM me if you wanna help
after being abused by misopedists as a kid, teachers and being bullied by students for selective mutism and etc, i have grown radically angry and shit
my experiences are so bad and seeing how teachers treat their students and the appalling power dynamic between them, and just going to school, i am so pissed off
i loathe misopedists and the insipid system
I was in 4th grade computer class, my teacher was this short, old black lady; a cold and generally unfriendly person at that. One day in computer class, we were doing an assignment in class that I don't remember taking the slightest interest in. But then nature calls for number 2, prompting me to ask my teacher if I can go use the restroom. She denied it, I attempt my assignment again; trying to ignore it, it happens again, Gotta go Ms. Uptight! Denied again, repeat a few more times and I'm embarrassed out my mind as I crap myself six ways to Sunday. And now my classmates are complaining and remarking about the smell; "It smells like a dirty diaper in here." Goes one guy, everyone must've initially thought it was a fart. I don't remember much after that, except that some guys noticed the smell extra strong after me. My gram and I let the principal hear about it, who I didn't even think did anything about it. All in all, that was a terrible day for me, I crapped myself, becoming yet another victim of a power trip, got dogged on a little bit, and I remember having to rest the whole day because I couldn't call my guardian. I was a bit of a thief, but I don't think I deserved that.
For my whole school life I displayed symptoms of a sleep disorder called Delayed-sleep-phase disorder (among many other names), or DSPD for short. Even when sent to bed early without electronics of any kind I would find myself awake for a long time, and waking up early enough in the morning to go to school was always a struggle. Being several minutes late happened almost every day. I often failed to wake up on time for the bus during the times where I had one.
I complained to the adults in my life: parents, teachers, and when available the doctor but nobody ever took it seriously. Hundreds of late marks never triggered suspicion in anyone. They all just thought I was being naughty. The teachers in my special education classes, which are supposedly there to help students with disabilities, never got the suspicion that my chronic tardiness might indicate a chronic disability.
In my final year of high school, my sleep problems got worse. I often found myself sleeping through the entire school day. I complained, to no listening. I was pressured to stay in school, because it would help me be "successful". My mom grew very mad at the possibility I would drop out.
Since I couldn't get up at a proper time, I had to find another solution: Staying up so late that dusk gave way to dawn and it was day, and going to bed at a new time with my new found sleepiness.
Doing this prescribed by a doctor is called "chronotherapy". While it is sometimes used in the case of DSPD, it carries a risk of developing an even worse sleeping disorder: Non-24-hour sleep-wake disorder (N24), in which one sleeps at a different time every day in a cycle that eventually repeats itself, usually over the course of a couple weeks. Because you can't maintain a sleep schedule with that disorder, it becomes very difficult to find employment.
I developed N24 as a result of my self prescribed chronotherapy. I had no other choice in order to go to school. School, which supposedly is forced upon us to increase our future employment opportunities, greatly worsened mine. I literally would have been better off if I dropped out instead.
His channel should be banned.
The comments below don't have the faintest idea of what unschooling is, yet they can't refrain from giving an opinion on everyone and everything they don't know a thing about.
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If you have AntiSchooling media such as newspapers, videos, podcasts, or essays that you consume or create on the Internet Archive, I recommend backing them up to any and every online library even if you didn’t create it.
I also recommend backing them up to the cloud and to your devices.
It’s really important that AntiSchooling media stays online and in order to do that, it needs to be backed up in many locations.