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WithoutATrace is a community for discussing missing persons cases - both open and closed. We tend to focus on cold cases, but we do discuss more recent disappearances as well. You are welcome to post about missing people here!
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Marjorie West vanished during a brief period on May 8, 1938 near the White Gravel Area (McKean County, near Bradford) Pennsylvania. Marjorie and her family had attended church services earlier in the day and were headed for a picnic.
Marjorie began picking wildflowers and she and her sister were warned not to go near a large boulder. Mr. West even checked for rattlesnakes behind this boulder. Soon her older sister Dorothea went to go speak with their mother and was gone for a few minutes. When Dorothea walked back to where her sister had been Marjorie was gone. A search of the area didn't find any evidence of where Marjorie had gone.
At first, it seemed like Marjorie had wandered off into the woods, but there was no evidence that she had done so. Per the Charley Project: No footprints or other indications of Marjorie's whereabouts were ever found. A taxi driver did see a little girl matching Marjorie's description riding in a dean later that evening with a man driving the car. This car, the man and the child were never located.
There was some speculation that Marjorie was taken by other family members into Canada or that Georgia Tan and the Tennessee Children's Home Society were involved her case. While this is an old case, it's still sad and there are people looking for her.
https://mckeancountycoldcases.weebly.com/marjorie-west.html
https://charleyproject.org/case/marjorie-west
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/26/missing-marjorie-west
I wonder what happened to this poor woman. She has been missing for close to 24 years now. I wanted to bring awareness to this case.
Name:ROSE FIELDS
Missing Date:12-22-2000
Age Missing:36
Current Age:60
Race:American Indian Or Alaskan Native Sex:F Eyes:Brown Hair:Black Height:5'03 Weight:130 Missing Date:12-22-2000
Remarks:ROSE was last seen wearing blue jeans and a blue hooded sweatshirt. ROSE has a tattoo of the initials "RF" on her right wrist, a tattoo that says "Lone Star" on her left wrist and her ears are pierced. ROSE often stays at homeless shelters.
Description:ROSE is a 60 year old American Indian Or Alaskan Native female. At the time of her disappearance, she was 5'03" tall and weighed 130 lbs. She has Black hair and Brown eyes. Last Seen:n/a
Agency Name:Omaha PD | Agency Phone:4024445818 Or The Nebraska Missing Persons Clearinghouse at 1-877-441-LOST(5678)
I personally think Timmothy’s mom killed him saying in the letter “Timmothy is safe and won’t be hurt” or whatever I think she was referring to him being in Heaven, because on her abandoned car they found grass like it’d been parked, and Timmothy’s mom could have killed him disposed of her clothes in the grave where she buried him and cleaned the knife fresh of Timmothy’s blood, that’s probably what I think happened also his mom committed to try and escape convicting for his Murder… since no one has seen timmothy I strongly believe that he is no longer alive and buried somewhere in a good grave that isn’t shallow… Amy could have had her clothes bloodstained by his blood, stripped then put them in the grave with Timmothy which is why she was seen in different clothes before she unalived herself….
I know some of y’all won’t like what I said but I bet that’s what most of y’all think, if you’ve seen youTube videos etc
Kevin Ayotte was 3 years old when he went missing in 1982.
Kevin was last seen playing upstairs of his family’s summer home in Sugar Bush, Minnesota at 4:45p.m. on September 30,1982. His mother went outside briefly; when she returned, Kevin had vanished. His dog, a sixth month old Springer Spaniel puppy named Flash, disappeared also, but his older brother was still inside the house.
Kevin had wandered away before, but he always returned after a short time. An extensive nine-day search turned up no sign of him, not even his shoes or his diaper, both of which he had a habit of discarding.
Flash, however, reappeared on October 5. In hopes of discovering clues as to Kevin's whereabouts, its coat was combed carefully and a veterinarian pumped its stomach; they found no evidence that Flash had eaten anything in days, other than swamp grass. Police put a tracking collar on the dog and let it go again, hoping it would lead them to Kevin, but it just kept returning home.
The countryside around Kevin's home is woodsy and boggy, and some people feel that the child became lost in the area and died of exposure. Due to the lack of evidence in his case, however, it is classified as a non-family abduction.
Robert Heintz 12, was living in an all group home called New Horizons Boys Home in Kearns Ontario, Canada at the time he went missing. At lunch time at Larder Lake Public School, he and 2 other boys planned to skip class and go hang out in the bush behind the school. The boys did not return home that night. The next morning the boys Robert was last seen with came out of the woods to a highway, and got a ride into town from a gentleman who alleged the children looked disturbed and scared. Robert was nowhere to be found.
The boys had claimed in their statement that Robert was arguing with them about the size of the fire and said that it was too small. Unfortunately, they were unable to make any larger because of the wet ground. Supposedly he took off on his own and hasn’t been seen since. The group home that Robert resided in looked for him for about a day (or possibly more). It is not noted publicly who officially reported Robert as missing.
Thirteen year old Tabitha Tuders Vanished somewhere between her home and her bus stop. One neighbour saw her heading to school, but a neighbourhood boy said he saw her getting into a red car thirty to forty yards from where she was last seen. Tracking dogs followed her scent along her route and then veered off to an alley from where she was seen getting into the red car. On August 19th 2003, five months after Tabitha’s disappearance, an 11 year old girl named Heaven Ross disappeared in the morning hours on her way to school in Northport, Alabama, Authorities believe both Tabitha’s and Heaven’s cases are connected. Unfortunately, Heaven’s remains were found in Holt, Alabama, three years after she disappeared.
Descriptions of the car have varied from a Volkswagen bug to a ford mustang, and the color could be red or green.
In a February 2020 interview, detective Steven Jolley told news 2 that from the beginning “many tips” have suggested Tabitha might’ve been drugged and forced into prostitution. Tips have also pointed to several potential suspects, including a man who was known in the East Nashville area and who is serving a lengthy sentence in federal prison. However no one has been charged in the case.
I strongly believe that Tabitha is still out there alive because they haven’t found her school bag and anything, some witnesses out there have had to see what the suspect who was in the car looked like or license plates if their were any on the car. Another of my theories are she could be a sex worker somewhere or she could’ve been murdered and buried in the yard of the persons house along with her things… I don’t know if the suspect or suspects have had more because they’ve never been identified… I strongly believe she is out there living under a new name and new identity and was probably brainwashed so she doesn’t know she’s missing.
Patricia Schneider was a 25-year-old waitress that disappeared from an unincorporated part of Riverside County called Pedley. She got off work from the Palamino Station in the early morning hours of Sunday August 1, 1982. Having car problems, she stopped at a Circle K mini market near the cross streets of Limonite and Van Buren. She was seen talking with two men with Sandy hair who were apparently assisting her with her car. She called her boyfriend twice while at the mini mart with the last call being around 3 am. She has never been seen since. However, her car was found about 2 miles away from the mini-market near Van Buren and Dolittle in the city of Riverside. It had been set ablaze. Police found her purse in the car.
Patricia was survived by her mother who lived in Banning California and did not have a phone and her aunt who lived in Laguna Hills California.
Patricia’s disappearance has at times been associated with the Disappearance and murder of Dorothy Jane Scott (1980, Orange California). The primary reasons for this is that the cars of both women were found burning hours after their disappearance. Additionally, a story about Patricia showed up in the Orange County register, due to her aunt and friends living in Laguna Hills.
What I have not previously seen noted is that Patricia was not the only disappearance on Limonite Avenue on that weekend in 1982.
On Friday, July 30, 1982, at around 4 pm, two miles from the mini market Patricia was last seen at ten-year-old April Irene Lamont was kidnapped while riding her bike to the Stater Brothers grocery store on the corner of Limonite and Etiwanda in the unincorporated part of Riverside County called Mira Loma. A search would be conducted for April and her bicycle would be found four miles North near Etiwanda and the 60 freeway in an industrial area called the Mira Loma Space Center. The following morning her body would be found dumped behind a Mobil gas station on Valley Blvd and the 60 Freeway in the unincorporated part of Riverside County called Rubidoux. The cause of death was believed to be asphyxia due to strangulation.
Media reports of April’s murder quickly disappear with only a blurb appearing the San Bernardino Sun, a few articles appearing in the Press Enterprise, and a couple of articles in The Record, a small newspaper published in the area.
Despite many search efforts, I have never been able to find any stories regarding a resolution to April’s murder case in the media. I have also been unable to locate any court records regarding anyone being charged with the April's. However, April’s murder does not appear on any of the unsolved sites.
At first, I thought this may have been because of the father’s attitude as portrayed by an interesting quote in one of the articles. It was the only quote from a family member which I found. A reporter apparently caught him on his lawn within a day or two of the murder. The reporter quoted the father as saying, “I had three children. Now I have two.”
I can only interpret this as being the words of a broken man. Based on witnesses statements there is no doubt that April was abducted by a stranger, so the father would not have been under suspicion. As the father did not appeal for the perpetrator to be caught or have any other cries for justice we have to assume he simply accepted the fact that nothing would return his daughter to him.
Reading through the articles of the time, it seems the unincorporated areas of Riverside County known as Rubidoux, Indian Hills, Glen Avon, Pedley, and Mira Loma were striving to become a booming city. So there may have been reason for the media not to emphasis the unsolved murder of a 10 year old girl. However, efforts to become a city seemed to be foiled by a scandal called the Stringfellow Acid Pits, which involved the dumping of toxic materials in the Jurupa Mountains which was found to have leaked into the Pyrite Creek. Today, all of those communities are known as the City of Jurupa Valley, which was incorporated in 2010.
So, the question remains, why is April’s murder not a cold case listed like that of Patricia’s?
I believe the reason is because authorities know who killed April and it is highly likely the same person killed Patricia as well.
In 1982, there was a child rapist abducting and sexually assaulting young girls in Los Angeles, Orange, and San Diego counties. He was known as the Lost Dog Rapist, because he would ask children to help him look for his lost dog and then snatch them. He would take them for a long ride in his car and then sexual assault them in the car or a motel room. Later releasing them by dropping them off at some other location.
Though he had been preying on girls for some time in the area, as things seemed to heat up in Los Angeles and Orange counties, he moved to San Diego County. There he picked up a girl and kept her overnight in a motel. However, he slipped up as the girl was able to lead the police back to the motel, where he had taken her.
Within a couple of month’s Los Angeles Police Investigators would fly to Kansas and working with Investigators there, discovered that the address used to register at the Mission Valley Motel in the San Diego was one that had been frequented by a man who had been arrested for indecent exposure and then jumped bail. Shortly after that arrest in 1977, a series of rapes occurred in the Kansas City area. They involve home brake-ins as well as at least one rape on the streets. Most of the victims were girls around 9 to 12 years old, but one was 17 and another 20 years old. Victim identified the photo of the man who had skipped bail as their attacker. The name he was known as was Roscoe James Short. Short's real name was James Henry Ginn Jr.
Soon, a connection was made to an incident in Albuquerque New Mexico in 1974 where Short had used another false name. There a man identified as Patrick James Kerwin (Ginn) was arrested after being pulled over for a traffic infraction. As the officer was speaking with Ginn, two women approached them and indicated the man had just attempted to abduct one of them. One of the women said that she was leaving her waitressing job when Ginn grabbed her and put a knife to her thought. He forced her into the passenger side of her car, but she was able to escape when the car would not start. The second woman came to her rescue as she screamed and so the man fled to another car where he screeched out of the parking lot causing the near by officer to pull him over. Investigators there connected Ginn with a number of other attack on girls aged 14 to 16 years old. Eventually, Ginn would be charged with seven counts of aggravated assault under the name Kerwin, five of sodomy, and one count of kidnapping for crimes he was identified to have committed in the area. According to media reports, Ginn would escape prosecution after unwittingly being released from a psychiatric hospital.
Between his activities in Kansas City and Albuquerque in 1976, Ginn would be arrested in Azusa California under the name Patrick Kerwin as part of a drug bust involving 4,400 pounds of marijuana. The drugs were found when police responded to reports of a burglary. There they found 400 crates of onions each with 11 pounds of marijuana hidden under the onions. The marijuana had a street value of more than $250,000. Ginn was arrested with two other accomplices at the time.
In 1979, Ginn was active in Corpus Chirsti, Texas where a 10 year old girl was raped. In that case, a man and a woman lured the girl to the car telling her they needed her help looking for a lost dog. They then took the girl to a motel in Victoria where she was tied to a bed, blind folded and gagged. The man then raped and sodomized her as the woman took photograph of the act. The girl was then dropped off at a restaurant back in Corpus Christi.
In the late 70’s and early 80’s, Ginn would be active in Denver Colorado, where he was known as the Baby sitter rapist. Twenty-two attacks on girls ranging from age 4 to 15 would be identified. In these attacks he would force his way into a home where he would assault babysitters and the children they were watching.
In May of 1982, LAPD Chief Darryl Gates would announce they had identified the Lost Dog Rapist as Roscoe James Short. At the time, they listed a number of aliases the man was known to used and stated they did not know what his true name was, but that they were sure who was committing the rapes. They also indicated the individual was a known drug trafficker. Within a couple of weeks, the LAPD would indicate that the man’s true identity was James Henry Ginn Jr.
Attacks had gone quiet in Los Angeles, Orange and Sand Diego Counties after the March 1982 abduction of the girl in the San Diego area. That same month, March, a 9-year-old girl named Jenny Kao was murdered at a Pasadena Mall while selling candy and the Lost Dog Rapist was considered a suspect. Another girl was attacked in Venice, a Beach area of Los Angeles, but some of the details of the attacks were different, so police were skeptical.
After the May announcement of Short being the suspect and the clarification that his real name was James Henry Ginn Jr. things were quiet in Los Angeles, Orange, and San Diego Counties in the months of June and July. However, in Riverside County April would be murdered on July 30th and Patricia would disappear 36 hours later on August 1st.
On August 18, 1982, Ginn would be arrested by the FBI in a restaurant in Denver Colorado. By October, Ginn would be charged with 37 counts in four states and through a plea bargain he would be sentenced to 83 ½ years to be served in Colorado.
So, recapping what we know about Ginn:
- He is a rapist that has been active since at least 1961.
- He committed a series of rapes in multiple cities.
- He used different methods of operation, including abducting children from the street and forcing women into their own car.
- Has attacked waitresses as they left their jobs.
- He is known to have attached girls and young women.
- He is known to have had accomplices in abductions.
- Possibly involved in child pornography.
- Involved in drug trafficking.
- Skipped bail repeatedly and seemed to have a knack for alluding prosecution.
- He used over 10 aliases.
- On a couple of occasions, he was described as having blonde hair, though his hair was brown with gray in it.
When investigating the Dorothy Scott murder, I uncovered four men who were involved in a kidnapping and rape spree in Orange County at the time of her abduction in 1980. Those four men were involved in sexually assaulting seven young women, mostly teenagers, raping them and releasing them. For their crimes they were sentenced to 400 years in prison. It is curious to me that a man involved in the molestation of so many children, with a knack for escaping justice would get such a sweet deal in comparison. A deal that would have him released after 40 years, allowing him to be free today. I tend to wonder if some additional information came along with Ginn’s confession as he was clearly involved in organized crime of some fashion.
Interestingly, enough a little over a week before Ginn’s plea bargain would be announced, four agencies would raid a property in the unincorporated part of Riverside County called Glen Avon where they would find over $100,000 in stolen cars. According to media reports, they uncovered the location when a truck load of soap bound for Burbank (neighbors Van Nuys where three of the Los Angeles attacks occurred), was reported stolen from Colton. When the incident was reported to the Riverside FBI office, an agent there remembered the truck as being one he had seen at a Glen Avon address. It does not say why the Special Agent had been checking out the address in Glen Avon. They used that information to obtain a warrant for the property, where they discover a chop shop of stolen vehicles and other property.
It is my belief that the murder of April and the disappearance of Patricia may likely be the work of Ginn. Although Ginn had not been identified as a murderer, it is very possible that with the heat on him he could have opted to kill April rather than leave a witness in the area he was hiding out. It is also possible he involved accomplices that preferred no witnesses remain. April also could have accidentally been asphyxiated as part of the act. As for Patricia, it is likely her remains are somewhere between Riverside and Denver Colorado.
Do you think Patricia and April's cases are related?
Santa Ana Orange County Register Evening, Aug 14, 1982, p. 14
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-desert-sun/159327061/