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Help with torn sleeping bag


We have tear along a seam on our The North Face Dolomite Duo.

Any suggestions on the best way to repair it??

23:30 UTC


Looking For Feedback on My First Pack and Gear

Hey there. I'm looking forward to doing some hiking and camping this year for the first time since I was a kid. I've been assembling my gear and the last things that I'll be purchasing are a tent and a pack. My intention is to hike out to places and experience some solitude and communion with nature. I'm not concerned with covering distances, more of an emphasis on being alone in the woods, or maybe with my dog.

I also am a hunter, and sometimes will be doing some small game hunting in the mornings and evenings depending on where I camp to and whether my dog comes with me or not, so that is something I'm taking into consideration as well. I'm sure that it would be best to have separate packs for regular camping vs hunting camping, and down the road I'm sure I'll end up buying more crap, but for the next few years ideally this setup will allow me to go on whatever adventures I'm planning on.

I live in central MN, it gets cold! So two things I have in mind are bugs and cold weather. I have a cold weather sleeping bag that is rather large, so I will need a pack that can accomodate that. Once again, I'm sure it's best to have a separate winter pack with its own winter specific setup, but up here it gets pretty damn cold in the fall too, so this will have to be a 4 season setup, and down the road maybe I can invest in separate packs for separate seasons.

Here is what I have so far: https://lighterpack.com/r/s8bzsk

I still need to choose a pack, tent, and sleeping mat. The sleeping mat will also need to be winter appropriate. For a tent I do currently have an old 2 person tent, it just doesn't seem to pack down all that well. I've been considering some kind of small completely enclosed pop up tent, or perhaps a canvas tipi style tent that just goes up with a pole in the middle. I'm honestly not sure what the best way to go with a tent is, I don't really care about how nice or comfy it is, I just want something durable and easy to to work with. Simple is good! I'm willing to spend on tent and pack if necessary. I was hoping that a pack like this would get me going, but maybe it's too small?


Any feeback or advice would be greatly appreciated, even if its just to tell me what an idiot I am. I enjoy learning and hearing others' perspectives on things. Thanks in advance!

19:38 UTC


Looking for bed recommendations side sleepers

I am a side sleeper, I have hips, and I am overweight (5'3, 220lb)
It seems like every review I've watched or read is paid advertisement or from people who sleep on their back, or people who do not have my body shape.
Or worse, people who try a product once and then tell all of youtube how great it is. I wanna hear from people who have been using something for months or years.

I don't camp very often but when I do it's at local campgrounds or on a friend's property. So, it doesn't have to be super compact and lightweight, but I also don't want to lug something around like a cot.

Right now I have therm-a-rest that I fold it in half for extra support on my torso, and it's not a good time lol.

Are there any sleeping pads out there that would be good for me?

17:49 UTC


Beat the Bugs and Embrace the Outdoors: The Coleman Evanston Screened Camping Tent

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15:44 UTC


Will Nemo`S "Disco-Endless Promise" keep me warm in the cooler months? (scandinavia).

I am looking to buy a "Fjol winterlight" pad and was looking to get the Nemo Disco bag, as it has gotten glorious ratings for SIDE sleepers.

Only thing that keeps me back from buying is the "R raiting" of the bag.
I live in one of the colder Valleys on the South eastern parts of norway, so i need a Side sleeping bag to keep me warm in around -5F\-20C ish, but also work during summers!
(If thats possible)

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14:13 UTC


Trekology pump sack - what are the buckle clips for?

Just bought a Trekology 30L pump sack for my UL80 sleeping mat.

It has two plastic backpack type buckle clips on it (male/female set) - but I'm not sure what they're for or how I'd use them?

I can roll the top of the bag over itself and then fold it in on itself to use the clips to seal the bag for storage - but that seems like a kind of ungainly way of doing what a draw string could do better and lighter.


13:48 UTC


Going to high altitude. Need advice

Its a blizzard prone trekk with a lots of casualty in the past. I need your advice in case I run into a blizzard.

Edit: Sorry for not including more information in this thread. The trekk is in the Himalayas, and I will indeed be bringing an expreienced guide with me. Moreover, there will be militery assistance along the way. But the trekk is 25km long and a lot of people have gone missing despite all the precautions. I have trekked to the higher altitudes before, but I have never experienced a blizzard. I thought u guys could give me some equipment and weather advice. Basically anything that helps me survive you know!

07:49 UTC


15F rated sleeping bag in 40F nights and I was freezing. Need some advice!

I have a Nemo Disco 15 mens bag that I recently went on a backpacking trip with. We were up in the Sierras at Kearsarge lakes, with nighttime temperatures probably around 40F.

Even wearing most of my layers (bases, fleece, light jacket), I was freezing every night. My partner and another I was with had 20 and a 0 degree mummy bags, and they were complaining each morning of being too warm. I switched with my partner in the 0 bag the last night and I was warm, and she was freezing.

It seems like the Nemo should've been able to easily hold up, and I've seen lots of positive reviews. I'm wondering if it's just the style of bag or something I'm missing, or if I might somehow have a defective one? I've had it a few years, and used maybe two or three times, and just now starting to go on more trips again. It's been stored hanging in the storage sack.

01:00 UTC


List of camping chairs for Backpacking, mentioned in other thread

Was browsing this recent thread\


Not sure whether to get either Nemo chair or maybe the cheaper FE Active or Decathlon Depending what's more sturdy and pack smaller, I guess

Any other opinions or advice
Might have to stop by REI to try what they do have

















23:32 UTC


REI must be cracking down on fraud/theft because I just had the wildest experience...

12:38 UTC


Looking for a 4 -6 person tent

I currently have an 8 person Big Agnes tent for myself and my kids. I love it!! However when it is just myself camping, it’s way too big. I am looking for recommendations on a 4-6 person tent with a vestibule. I want it to be waterproof ( or as close as one can get), easy to set up and that I can easily sit up in it.

04:21 UTC


Grill Stove

Hey all,

I have a RAV4 which I've converted into a mini-camper of sorts. With a small space of about 17"x7" under part of the mattress to store items, I am looking into purchasing a Coleman portable grill-stove (when folded down, it should be fine to slide into that space).

I've looked online and can see plenty of the grills, and am not sure which one would be worth purchasing?

I am more than fine spending $200+ as long as the grill lasts a while and can use those green-mini-Coleman-propane containers.

Thanks for any and all help! :)

01:01 UTC


Just suckered a poor shmuck out of his Coleman.. only paid $20

21:06 UTC


Looking for 1-2P trekking tent.

As the title suggest I'm looking for a comfortable 1P or tight 2P tent suited for multi day trekking through the mountains. My main focus is it's quality and durability. I want it to last quite a while. Weight is important of course. But it's not a main concern of mine. So ultralight stuff isn't essential. I've been looking for quite some time now, but I'm finding it hard to nail down a tent. Hoping to get some good suggestions with hands on experience from an unbiased source. Thanks in advance.

19:14 UTC


Vintage Lumbar pack..no bottle holders?! How to add them on?

I bought an older Mountainsmith Tour pack, but lo and behold somehow it came with the bottle holders either not attached to the Velcro and these clips or this model somehow never had them. Any ideas on where to find an old modular pouch, or how to attach new ones?

19:07 UTC


REI Trail Hut 2 VS NEMO Aurora 2

I picked up both of these tent on sale and am having trouble deciding between the two. The Nemo was about $100 more than the Trail Hut.


I plan on using it for car camping, and the occasional bike tour. Weight is not a factor in this (I'm more concerned with durability).

Do you have experience with either? The Trail Hut feels more rugged, but that said, the new REI warranty is only for 1 year. Is the Nemo tent & lifetime warranty worth the $100 price difference?

17:49 UTC


Sleeping Pad Around Dogs

My wife and I have been car camping with a quite uncomfortable Coleman air mattress inside our tent and our two dogs sleep in the tent with us.

We have a two week trip coming up where we are flying to Montana and tent camping the entire time with a rental car, so we are looking to buy some good quality sleeping pads.

The pads need to be light enough we can fit them in our suitcases or backpacks on the plane, but I don’t necessarily need ultralight since we front country camp. I’d like to buy something that we can continue to use on our local camping trips once we return, and my dogs will be near them so I’m concerned any inflatable pads will get punctured.

Any thoughts on what product will be best to sleep in if you camp with your dogs?

17:14 UTC


Best choice between sleeping bags

This summer (late August-early September) I’m going to do the entirety of Kungsleden (Sweden) with a friend. I have to buy a sleeping bag for temperatures between 5 and -2 celsius and I’m a bit unsure if it is better to buy the colder (comfort temperature between 3 and -2) or the warmer (comfort temperature between 0 and -6)

By your experience, is it better to buy something warmer that I will use way less in the future or something colder that I will use much more for future trips?

Thanks guys!

15:55 UTC


Helinox Table Four and Bench One initial impressions and review

During the Memorial Day sales I noticed that Helinox was running a 25% off sale channel-wide and several retailers also boosted cashback through Activejunky and Topcashback. This got me interested in a couple items from Helinox that I would never in a million years pay full retail price for.

I scored the Helinox Table Four direct from Helinox and the Bench One I noticed that REI was clearancing out for $208 each. REI also still has the Cafe Chairs for $118.93. Bought two Bench Ones and four Cafe chairs. Ended up returning the Cafe Chairs.

For a while I have wanted a portable camp table and chairs for boondocking camping, friend's houses, when guests are over etc. There are allot of quality options from Mountain Summit Gear, Snow Peak, REI, ALPS Mountaineering etc. There are pretty well made (like the Mountain Summit Gear's slat aluminum tops), are fashionable high design (Snow Peak) or are large and sturdy (REI). However one major issue with all of these tables are they are heavy and bulky. Many won't really pack down that small and require large carry cases to take in your vehicle. If you have a large rig to carry such stuff then maybe it's not a big deal; but pack size adds up even when overlanding and car camping.

This is the first review of the Table Four on the Internet that I could find.

Products reviewed below:

  • Helinox Table Four. MSRP $399.99. Purchased direct from Helinox on sale for $299 + cashback site to save even more. Also currently sold at Backcountry.com and Amazon.
  • Helinox Bench One. MSRP $299. Purchased on clearance at REI for $208; Helinox sale price was $225 + cashback site discounts
  • Helinox Savanna Chair. Bought from Moosejaw several years ago. Helinox had this on sale at multiple retailers for $165 + cashback site discounts.

The Helinox Table Four solves many of these issues, though for a high cost. This table is setup in a long zippered pack bag. This is setup much in the same way that many of the Helinox cots are setup as.

The pack bag for this weighs 10.5lbs (4.76KG) and measures 28x8.5x3 LxWxH (73x21x8cm). This is significantly smaller pack size and weight than say the Mountain Summit Gear Heavy Duty Roll Top Table that is 47 x 28 x 28 inches (119x71x71 cm) and weighs over 15lbs (6.8kg) however it is almost 4x the price.

Helinox Table Four outside of the pack bag

Once you take the Table Four out of the pack you will have the hard top folding table top, two support poles and the frame.

Frame assembled - bottom view

Unwrap the Velcro wrap and assemble the frame. They are held in with shock cord. There are two sections. The two sections snap together with a push button.

Frame assembled - side view

Next to assemble the table top. This is setup much like Helinox's cots. Unfold the table top and then slide the larger support poles into the pole sleeves. The poles can only be inserted on one side of the table top. After insertion you need to pull the fabric over the end of the pole to keep the pole in place and under tension.

Inserting the table support poles

Next rotate the plastic "hooks" on the main frame to point backwards. Place the table top on top of the frame. Clip in the static hooks into the silver aluminum frame. Next hook in the plastic hooks from the ratcheting clips into the other silver aluminum pole.

Table top on top of the frame.

Now press down on the ratcheting clips until they fold down and snap into place. This will place quite a bit of tension on the top and you will notice the support frame will bend slightly - this is normal and is no reason for concern.


Once assembled the Table Four will hold up to 110lbs.

Next onto the Bench One.

The Bench One is designed very similar to the construction of the Table Four. It can hold two adults comfortably and has a total weight capacity of 420LB (190kg). The pack size of the bench is 17.5x6.5x6.5 (16.5x45x16.5cm).

Bench One travel sack

To assemble....


Just like with the Table one you will get two frame pieces put together with shock cord. You will need to clip the two sections together and set the plastic hooks to be facing outward.

Next assemble the silver aluminum poles and insert them into the fabric seat. Pull the fabric portion over the end of the pole to set the seat and to set tension.

Seat pole pieces assembled

Fabric seat

Next place the fabric seat on the plastic hooks on the frame. Clip them in. Rotate to the other side of the bench seat and clip in the pole with the ratchet and then ratchet the seat in place.


Seat ratchet

Bench assembled

The Helinox Table Four is compatible with multiple Helinox chairs and benches. The table height is 27.5", which is quite a bit taller than the Table One Large at 19.5". Therefor it is recommended to only use the following Helinox chairs or benches with the Table Four to have comfortable height:

  • Chair One Large
  • Sunset Chair
  • Savanna Chair
  • Cafe Chair
  • Swivel Chair
  • Bench One

Ideally you want to use the Bench One or the Cafe chairs as those have a more upright seating position that is better for dining, playning cards etc. The other Helinox chairs are angled backwards and are more like lounge chairs. This doesn't mean you can't use them, they just don't have the best posture for eating or playing card games, using a laptop etc.

  • The Chair One, Chair Zero, Playa chair, Chair One Highback could also be used but more than likely your elbows will not be at a 90 degree angle when seated. YMMV of course with the height of your torso and the exact chair used.

Below are examples of chairs used:

Table Four with two Bench Ones

Cable Four with a Bench One and a Savanna chair

Table Four and Savanna chair

We used this on a Boy Scout w day camp out. I recommend bringing some sort of table cloth cover so the kidos don't stain the table. Being fabric this will stain and certain stains don't come out easily. A plastic type of table cover is idea. This is also true of the Table One and Table One Large.

Stability is really good considering it's pack size and weight. It can flip over if there is too much weight distribution on one side and you should never allow children to sit on it.

With two benches I was able to comfortably sit 2 adults and 2 5-7 year old children. The site we were at only had one camp table, so the additional space was well worth it.

Helinox offers a 5 year warranty on all their gear. Their customer service is quick and painless with an online form or you can call them. They don't request a receipt for proof of warranty.


  • One of the lightest and smallest pack size camp tables on the market. Much smaller and lighter than options from ALPS Mountaineering, REI, Mountain Summit Gear etc.
  • Strong DAC aluminum poles are much stronger and lighter than many other 7001, 7071 or 7075 series poles from cheaper brands
  • High weight capacity of 110lbs (49kg), which is excellent for being a fabric top held with tension from just two poles.
  • Strong 5 year warranty


  • Very expensive. Don't pay full retail for this. It's not worth $399; $275 was not a terrible asking price though.
  • Not as high of weight capacity as from heavier steel and aluminum table options from Mountain Summit Gear and REI.
  • Less expensive, though much heavier and bulkier, alternatives are available from REI, Mountain Summit Gear, Moonlence and REI
  • Might take a couple tries on assembly. Helinox has excellent directions and has an assembly video on their EU website.

For the bench I find it to be comfortable and works well for the utility it provides the proper height and posture for this camp table. Also can be used for a seating area for parties or if you want additional space around a campfire etc.


  • Awesome weight capacity. Sits two average weight adults perfectly fine.
  • Strong 5 year warranty
  • Available in several patterns and colors
  • Provides good posture for siting at the Table Four


  • Expensive. Don't pay for retail price on this. At $200 I thought it was a good value, $300 no
  • Not enough weight capacity for 2 heavier adults. If this is an issue consider the Cafe chair, which has a 320lb weight capacity per chair
  • Might take a couple tries on assembly. Helinox has excellent directions and has an assembly video on their EU website.
  • Not as comfortable as the Cafe chair since there is no back support.
  • Less expensive, though much bulkier, alternatives are available from Snow Peak and Dometic.


15:51 UTC


Best backpacking sleeping pad?

I’ve had a variety of backpacking sleeping pads/mattresses, and they either don’t hold air well, or they’re nosier than all get out. Any recommendations for a compact sleeping mat/pad/mattress that is durable (won’t deflate), and isn’t crinkly/crackly?

15:12 UTC


How well do you all know what gear you have?

Anytime I start packing for a trip, it seems like I have to go through most of my gear as a refresher on what I have and what I need to bring. I don't even feel like I have that much, but the act of searching though bens made me realize how much I have accumulated over the years. Sometimes it feels like searching for an item takes longer than packing.

This made me wonder, how well do you all know your camping gear? Do you have a list somewhere of all your gear or is it all in some closet somewhere like mine?

15:11 UTC


Best hiking shoes for summer in the woods/mountains.

I'm a 6' 200lb male looking for recommendations on hiking shoes. I have a set of hunting boots. But want something lighter for just hiking.

03:38 UTC


Tent recommendations for tall people

I am a 6 foot woman who camped w our family but gave away our tent in a fit of insanity. Now I want to go again w a women’s group. Tent should be easy to set up and tall enough to stand up. I’d prefer inexpensive - may only be used a few times. It’s possible that our daughters might come if I’m lucky so no smaller than a four person. What would you suggest? I could rent at REI, but I think it’s likely a similar price

03:32 UTC


Fix for this?

I got a rinse kit a few years back and have used a lot when car camping. This crack appeared in the tank just happened last trip. Does anyone have a fix for this or experienced the same thing? Thanks!

02:37 UTC


Best size tarp to use with tarp poles?

Looking to use some tarp poles/tarp to make an A frame canopy. What's a good tarp size to use?

22:17 UTC

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