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Team | Wins | Losses | GB |
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Brewers | 93 | 69 | - |
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I’m starting to really really get back into baseball and the Reds. I really want to learn the history of the sport. In your opinion what was the greatest single moment in Reds history?
Pulled this last night
If you told Dodgers and Yankees fans that all other teams are going to pay for there players because they are so important to Mlb, I think they would say that we have a good point. So tired of big market teams claims that unlimited money doesn't help there teams. They always say we don't win every year. Lol
Go Redlegs.
Seems to me the team has more open spots on the 40 man roster to cover those dudes that were Rule 5 eligible. Is Krall looking to add more in a trade soon?
After watching some of Aaron Judge's struggles and Shohei being nonexistent in the WS, I started wondering how Joseph Daniel Votto might have performed on the same stage.
Would he have stepped up or pulled a Houdini?
We have a small sample size from 2010, 2012 (hurt), and 2013.
My gut tells me he likely would have disappeared though I hope otherwise.
What are your thoughts?
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Go Redlegs.
So we've all got our opinions on how to handle the OF situation. Sign a big free agent. Convert McLain to CF. Plenty of other ones as well.
I've got one that I think may be a good fit for where the Reds are right now that fixes a lot of things. Delay the decision for a year. Make a trade for a 2026 free agent outfielder now. This type of trade would likely be fairly low cost, and not use one of the top 10 prospects. We would get a starter level OF in their contract year, playing in a ballpark that has revived some guys as hitters. We wouldn't be making a long term commitment, and would retain some flexibility with 2 big waves of arbitration looming.
So does waiting a year help, or just delay the inevitable? I think a year helps a lot. If you want to move one of the IF's to OF, they could do some spot starting this year, instead of trying to convert in one spring training. You could even start converting an current IF in the minors right now. Hinds and Dunn can be left in AAA to get some at bats and see if they develop some more, and still be brought up in case of injuries. And Carlos Jorge and Hector Rodriguez could have a shot at being ready by 2026.
There are some drawbacks. You would be giving up some mid level prospects for one season of a player. There would be the frustration of possibly bringing in a player who does well, and then likely not being able to resign them after one season.
I think overall it's a risk worth taking.
Below is the list of 2026 OF free agents who this could work with, along with my best guess % of whether their current team would trade them for 1-2 mid tier prospects. I left out ones who would cost too much in 2025 or ones that teams would 100% not trade (Schwarber, Tucker, etc).
Mitch Haniger, Lamonte Wade Jr., Mike Yastrzemski- 90% Grouping these together since they're all Giants. Especially with a new regime in SF, almost a sure thing one of these guys will be traded this offseason
Cedric Mullins- 65% They already shopped him at the last deadline, but could be feeling pressure to full go for it this year
Lane Thomas- 50%- Based on his playoff performance they keep him. Based on how stingy Cleveland is, they may want to save the money and get some future prospects back while they can.
Hunter Renfroe- 75%
Austin Hays- 50%
Ramon Laureano- 60%
Trent Grisham- 80% Chances could drop lower if they lost out on Soto though
Luis Robert- 5%- Adding him even though there's a club option after next season. Don't think the ChiSox are close enough to competing to pick it up. 95% chance he gets traded this offseason or next deadline, but Sox will be looking for high end prospects for him. Something catastrophic would need to happen for them to settle for a smaller deal.
Just a quick heads up on when some things will happen this offseason.
The first of which is Options, which must be decided 5 days from the end of the WS, so 4 days from today.
Here's a reminder of the Reds players with pending decisions:
Luke Maile- Club option for $3.5 million
Nick Martinez- Player Option for $12 million
Emilio Pagan- Player option for $8 million
Brent Suter- Club Option for $3.5 million
EDIT: Jake Junis- $8 million mutual option (missed that one somehow)
Rest of the relevant offseason dates-
NOV. 5-7: GM MEETINGS.
NOV. 19: DEADLINE FOR PLAYERS TO ACCEPT OR REJECT QUALIFYING OFFER.
NOV. 22: NON-TENDER DEADLINE.
DEC. 9-12: MLB WINTER MEETINGS.
DEC. 11: RULE 5 DRAFT.
FEBRUARY: ARBITRATION FIGURES EXCHANGED.
MID-FEBRUARY: SPRING TRAINING BEGINS.
To preface I'm not a huge catcher expert so I could be totally off base.
Ty Steve quietly had a very good year. He kind of got overshadowed by the positives in Elly/Greene and the general shitty performance of the team.
With decently hitting catchers being kind of rare nowadays and Ty Steve having a good year, what are thoughts on extending him?
He's going into arb 2 this year. I feel like it could make sense from both sides. Reds can lock up a decent bat/catcher and he can get security for his family.
A similar ish comparison to me feels like Willson Contreras--above average bat, mid-tier framing/other metrics.
He's got 5 years/87.5m guarantied which feels like a bit of an overpay but something like 4/60 with some options maybe?
Thoughts
If this Matt McLain CF experiment works (he played in college) here's what I'm thinking:
HSK elite defense around the IF (2B/SS/3B) gives us options and he's relatively affordable at likely $15-$20M/yr. Dump Jeimer for literally anything (eat his contract).
C - TySteve
1B - CES
2B - India/HSK/Marte
SS - Elly
3B - HSK/Marte
RF - Friedl
CF - McLain
LF - Steer
DH - Marte/India
Bench - Espinal, Fraley, Maile, Dunn
Yes would love to have a RH power bat in the OF but that market doesn't look great. Do you really want 5 years of injury-prone Tyler O'Neill for $15-$20M/yr? Best bet might be to try to trade Marte for the right bat here. Likely you keep Jeimer in that case.
Rotation - Greene, Lodolo, Abbott, Lowder, Martinez (resign)
Bullpen - Scott (sign), Leclerc (sign), Pagan, Ashcraft/Spiers, Diaz, Moll, Santillan, Suter
That's 26. Let's say you get HSK @ $18M/yr, Scott @ $10M/yr, Martinez @ $15M/yr, Leclerc @ $6M/yr. Payroll is roughly $117M (including projected arbitration increases). Would decrease if you get ANY salary offset for moving Jeimer.
What do you all think? Groundball/strikeout pitchers with good right-side infield defense and passable left. Balance of LHP/RHP in rotation. Strong bullpen arms (2 closers). Multiple guys who can play multiple positions well. Speed/power combos everywhere.
IMO the recipe for small-market success.
Go Redlegs.
If it works for the dodgers it can work for us
How much money do the Reds have realistically in the offseason. I just saw Soto said “Every team has the same opportunities when I go into free agency.” On a scale of 1/10 how realistic is it that they at least try to get him?
We still have a few weeks until this year's Rule 5 Protection Deadline, which falls on November 19 this year, but I'm in the midst of a rare dramatically slow day at work, so I'm gonna write about it now. As most people on this sub are likely aware, there is a date every year by which teams need to add certain players to the 40-man roster in order to protect them from the Rule 5 Draft (the need for protection being based on time since entering the pros). If a player is unprotected, he stays in the organization (unless he is far enough along to be able to elect MiLB free agency, but that's a tale for another time), but he is eligible to be picked by other teams in the Rule 5 Draft that takes place in December at the Winter Meetings.
As things stand, the Reds have 39 players on their 40-man roster. This calculation includes players who ended the year on the 60-day IL, but it does not include players whose contracts have options (including player options like Nick Martinez and Emilio Pagan, mutual options like Jakob Junis, and team options like Luke Maile and Brent Suter). Pagan feels like a lock to pick up his player option, and I imagine that the Reds will pick up the option for at least one of Suter and Maile (though I'm not here to litigate the reasonableness of doing so in either case).
Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that Pagan opts in, Martinez (obviously) opts out, and the Reds pick up exactly one of the options between Suter and Maile. This would put the 40-man at 41, which obviously necessitates a move.
As things stand, the Reds certainly have some fat they can trim from the roster, and they will need to do so ahead of November 19, as they have several prospects that they will need to add (which is the crux of this post). Some players who are at real risk of being cut are, in no particular order, Ty France, Nick Martini, Tejay Antone, Jacob Hurtubise, Joey Wiemer (though I would be a bit shocked), Austin Wynns, and Christian Roa. There are probably others who aren't guaranteed safety, but those 7 stand out for various reasons.
As for how much space needs to be created, that remains to be seen. This is one of the first times I can remember the Reds entering protection season with a legitimate 40-man crunch, which makes all of the protection calls significantly harder. Below, I've sorted various Rule 5-eligible prospects into buckets of "Likely Protected," "Tough Call," and "Longshot."
Likely Protected:
Tough Call:
Longshot (but still possible):
The Reds are seemingly good for a surprise choice every year, mostly in the vein of choosing to protect someone who was not on peoples' radar for protection (which included Tejay Antone once upon a time!). Thus, can't say I'd be shocked if someone who I didn't list here is ultimately protected (dart throw: T.J. Sikkema), but we shall see!
Go Redlegs.
As we get closer and closer to the end of the playoffs, followed by the offseason, I wanted to bring up one very underrated factor that will influence how the front office approaches signings and trades. Arbitration.
The downside of having these classes of prospects come up is that teams can get his with waves of them going from their cushy league minimum salaries into their arbitration periods, when those numbers will start climbing. If a team has 2-3 players hit arbitration in an offseason, it can make a small dent in their payroll. If they have a bigger wave, it can start adding up.
Here's what the Reds are staring at in the next 2 years of players moving into arbitration:
Starting Arb 1 this offseason-5 per Spotrac (Gibaut, Moll, Diaz, Ashcraft Lodolo)
After 2025- 9 players (McLain, Benson, Fairchild, Friedl, Martini, Steer, Williamson, Cruz, Santillan)
After 2026- 4 players- (Elly, CES, Weimer, Abbott)
So over the next 3 years, 19 players on the roster will start getting raises. Add to that some of the other players currently in the arbitration cycle who will also be getting raises. Now some may obviously not be here by the time they do get to arbitration, being released or traded potentially.
Now raises for arbitration will be based some on performance, but rough numbers for an average player would be going from 800K to $1.5-$3mil on Arb 1. Then to $4-7 million on Arb 2. And $8-11 million on Arb 3. Some will be less, some more. Juan Soto as a example went $8.5, $17 and $23 in his first 3 years of arbitration.
So this big wave coming could add a lot of money to payroll without even adding anyone to the roster. How does knowing this wave is coming affect what the Reds may do this offseason?
With any signings, emphasis on shorter contracts. Heavily expect the Reds not to sign a free agent this offseason to more than a 3 year deal. This also means that they may overpay on an AAV to get someone in if they want them. So as an example, if you see player A rumored to be looking for a contract at 5 years $15 million per, the Reds may still make an offer to them, but it may be more like 3 years $20 million per.
A lot of focus on extensions. Extending a lot of these players helps even out the costs and make them more predictable going forward. So you may see less of the efforts going toward bringing in new signings, but hear rumblings about extension talks. Now, agents really, really hate extending these young players any more, so don't expect a ton of successes with it, especially if their agent's name rhymes with "Sore-Ass"
Trades. So you may see the Reds be more active in the trade market to make the changes they need. And who gets traded may change. So you may be less likely to see them shopping minor leaguers like Sal Stewart or Bryce Petty, and more likely to see them offering players closer to the arbitration window like Abbott or CES. They may also look to do somw swapping of players close to arbitration to those further back, or even for players who've already passed their window and have a short, predictable, and affordable contract.
CES was removed from the AFL game on Oct 16th in the 8th inning. He has not played for Glendale since.
I am wondering if anyone knows what his injury is.