Brothers wife is currently reading mistborn for the first time!

Screw you Wayne, screw you for leaving us the way that you did, screw you for being the most human character I have ever come across and making me cry in a heap for losing you although you were never real... you sure did live... You sure did live... thank you Wayne.

fyi: i'm at about the end of part 2. vin and kel went to the lord ruler's palace to investigate.

this may sound funny/crazy, but i am SO proud of vin for her first kill(s).😭 she took them out like it was nothing and it's cool/interesting to see her be so skilled so quickly. i had felt like the book was dragging for me a bit but the events of the ball and this have reeled me back.

Been thinking about this for the last week or so after rereading a couple chapters here and there from the original trilogy. It had me thinking what would be the best execution for a Mistborn movie or show? My personal bias is animation since we have seen so many good ones in recent years with Spiderverse, Arcane, and even Puss in Boots. I also feel like it would be more "feasible" in the sense that they can illustrate Metallurgy much better and possibly less costly than live-action CGI; though I do not know much about the actual costs so it may be around the same ballpark. But even then I feel like a lot of mainstream audiences really love live action more for some reason. I mean, look at the numbers for Transformers or any Marvel movie in the last decade compared to their animated counterparts. So it's really hard to decide whether a Mistborn movie would fit the bill in either medium. I know that movies are hardly the best way to enjoy the source media but if it means funding the overall Cosmere and bringing new fans in, I am for it as long as the vision is there and crew behind it captures Mistborn to the best of their ability.
So what do you think? An animated or live-action Mistborn movie?

Edit: removed spoiler tag and changed flair, sorry about that!

Let me start by saying this is my first ever read through of the Mistborn series. At this point in time, via audiobooks, I've listened to Warbreaker, Mistborn Era 1, Elantris, everything Mistborn and Elantris related in Arcanum unbound, and most of Era 2 with only 2 hours left of "The Lost Metal" before I'm done. I've really enjoyed the journey so far, but I've just gotten to Wayne's plan on how to solve the problem on the boat and it confuses me.

Ultimately my question is, what exactly is affected when someone is using Allomancy, or more specifically time allomancy and how it relates to inanimate objects? Where does allomancy (or Harmony) draw the line?

Explanation: Earlier in TLM it is explained that if any part of a person touches a speed bubble they, and everything in contact with them, are included in the bubbles effects, this includes even touching it with the tip of your fingers. This is used multiple times in this book by Wax and Wayne in key moments of conflict. We also know time bubbles effect inanimate object; clothes, guns, allomantic grenades, etc. when not in contact with people. So anything in the time bubble is affected.

Based on that information, I don't understand how Wayne's plan is going to work. Wayne's plan, as far as I can tell, is he's going to encase himself and the three bombs in a duralumin enhanced time bubble and use water to explode the harmonium inside without triggering the dead man sequences on the unit controller. But the unit controller is connected to the bombs via a batch of wires. If the rule is anything touching a speed bubble is affected, how is the controller being isolated from the bombs?

When discussing this with my friend who recommended the series to me, his explanation was the signal is being considered separate from the wires, but I don't understand how that's possible. He tried to explain it again using an ocean saying that In a time bubble the water and creatures would move faster until they exited the bubble, and that made even less sense to me based on my limited understanding. If a person just touching the edge of a bubble is fully effected then why isn't the controller which is connected to the bombs also affected?

My belief is the controller should still be connected and My reasoning comes from "The emperor's Soul" and "Secret History". In The Emperor's soul we learn that all things have a sense of self. Windows, doors, desks, walls; they all believe and want to be what they are. In a stained window for instance the window as a whole is affected and not the individual glass panes. We even see something like this in Secret History when Kelsier brings a fire to life in the cognitive realm. We also see in secret history that objects like bodies of water solidify as a whole solid object and not a pile of gravel or rocks. With that in mind it's seem that a bomb connected via wires and electricity to a unit controller would all be one object and thus all of it affected by the time bubble, but TLM seems to disagree. Which to me means that electricity would see itself as seperate individual particles that just so happened to be inside of a wire that also believes itself to be individual atoms and not a single wire where time gets weird through half of it which just so happens to be connected to a bomb.

I tend to write a lot of little fanfiction, and since the characters I write for are effectively immortal, they have been through their fair share of holidays.

We have two known holidays: Survivors Day and Harmontide, but do any of you have any ideas for others? Perhaps a day based on the Catacendre? Or days based on members of the original crew, celebrating those who are similar to them? (Bureaucrats for Dockson, for example.)

I just finished The Final Empire and absolutely loved it. But now that I’m on The Well of Ascension, it feels… a little boring.

Can I just skim through it, or maybe read a summary and the major plot points before jumping into The Hero of Ages? Or does the story get complex or intriguing enough later that it’s worth reading properly?

Edit: Adding Context

I never planned to skip Well of Ascension altogether.

As someone with ADHD, it takes extra effort to read books—especially ones over 300 pages. When the start of a story feels slow, it can become really painful to continue, and the chances of me dropping the series altogether get pretty high.

I really loved The Final Empire and want to finish the series, even if it’s a little less rewarding than reading every word of Well of Ascension. I’m pretty sure I’ll circle back to it later if I skim through now and connect the dots.

I understand many of you wouldn’t consider skimming a book, and I don’t want to either, but we all work with our limitations.

What is Discord?,I scrolled a little on an old post and a lot of people spoke about something called "Discord". They also spoke about Scadrial,so i think it's something about that,but can anyone explain it to me?

Lastly i just wanted to say that english is not my native language,so if i have spelled anything wrong or something,that's why.

I'm relistening to Bands of Mourning right now. Spoilers for entire book.

I remember my first time listening to this I was still pretty lukewarm on Steris. I really didn't want him to go to Marasi because of the even larger age gap but, like Steris, I felt a bit like he was being pressed into it. As the story goes on and he really falls in love with her, it really became obvious what a fool he had been. She's a self possessed woman of incredible potential - in some ways she's too good for him. And I really, really like her. After this I'll be relistening to The Lost Metal and I'm quite looking forward to that too.

I'm mid Alloy of Law and i giggle every time they're like "Preservation Wings" " For Preservation Sake Man" " oh rust and Ruin" " Oh Harmony"

but is "rust" before ruin explained? or just because it's mainly a metalic world?

ps: it's not the best book in the cosmere, it's not supposed to since it was written to be a standalone novel not for a full era, but Wayne makes it bearable

I can’t believe this series. I’ve always been a big reader, trying anything and everything. But, I was restricted growing up on what books I could read so I’ve been doing some catching up in the past 5 years. I’ve read Final Empire and am about 150 pgs into Well of Ascension. I love these books, I love the writing, and I love the joy and passion I feel from reading again. These books have also helped me connect with my older sister, my partner, and many people I look up to. Sorry this turned into an emotional spiel, but I’m so excited to read more and more of Sanderson’s books and share my excitement with more people.

So when I read the stormlight there was (is) a pretty cool guide chapter by chapter with fan arts and official artwork. I loved it because I have an awful time imagining things and sticking with characters descriptions just from the text. I have seen many new readers here asking for fan arts without spoilers and the answer is always to go look coppermind or just to Google it. But honestly mistborn is easily spoil able and I think for people to go and see it might ruin their experience. Anyways, I'm about to reread era 1 and I am thinking to do something like that, basically wanted to ask you if there is already something similar, and I just don't know about it or if you think is a good idea. Thank you! Sorry for the formatting (on the phone) and for my english (not native).

PD: do you think adding the metal explanations and lore as it goes appearing is good or is it just fine with artwork?

Edit: not quite clear, but I meant to create a guide for mistborn myself now that I am re reading ☺️ and share it if goes well.

Everything about Rashek is a lie?

Reread the final empire to prep for A Secret History WOW how different this read has been after reading so much more of Brandon’s work.

I had to try and make myself remember things from hero of ages and gosh there was so much we couldn’t see yet!

But onto the question:

Do you think Rashek (the lord ruler) actually did hate the hero of ages or did Ruin manipulate that too?

Having read to the end of era 1, I am revisiting some of the premises I took for truth last time like: rashek hated the hero. Rashek killed him out of jealousy. Rashek believed terrasmen were supporior.

I mean obviously they could all be true. But If Ruin >!I keep almost typing odium lol!< could manipulate texts from the beginning, why not lie from here?

I was thinking about a question Brandon answered on his podcast about “who in the cosmere would be the best president?” (Or something similar). And I was taken back when he said Rashek. Why would he be the best option and not Eland? Why him and not Jhasna?

Well what if every premise about Rashek’s character in the log book was a lie? Then it starts making sense.

Thoughts? (Has this been confirmed??) Disagreements? Recipies from your world-hopping? Lemme know

Edit: someone pointed out correctly that the question Brandon answered was: “which Sanderson villain would make the best US president?” source Upon rewatching the video, I discovered I had forgotten the lord rulers name and Brandon’s true answer was Harathen (followed by Lord Ruler). Sorry for the confusion

“We believe,” [Tensoon] whispered, “there is a way to transport objects large distances using a conflux of Metalborn powers…”

Does anyone have theories on this? I feel like I have an inkling but I can’t finish the thought.

I think it’s related to Wayne’s use of duralumin powered Bendalloy. Space and time are intricately connected, perhaps when you bend time so strongly, it’s possible for that to effect space/distance as well. Maybe compounding weight at the same time as using a duralumin burst of Bendalloy could warp space time, possibly making a miniaturized wormhole. I feel like I’m missing a component or something. Thoughts?

Hello nice people :) First post here, hope I am not violating any community rule.

I am just here to share my theory about Vin's capability of >!piercing copperclouds!<

Apologies for the many spoiler tags. I want to be extra sure not to >!ruin!< anyone's reading experience ;)

I've thought about this for a while, as I guess many readers. It's not revolutionary, so it's either true or the writer really wanted readers to believe it.

So, in the lead paragraphs of Hero of Ages, >!we get bits of lore and explanations of how the three known metallic powers function. And every time the Hemalurgy topic comes up I believe even more in this theory. !<

The biggest hint so far has been in Hero of Ages, Chapter 44, the one in which >!Marsh plants a spike in Penrod's heart!<. The thing that now really makes me believe it even more are >!Ruin!<'s words at the end of chapter 45

!"I've always been with you. You've heard me in your mind since your first years of life"!<

The theory is simple: >!it's Vin's earrings. They act as a pair of Hemalurgic spikes, enhancing her bronze abilities. !<

Further considerations, mostly disproving or weakening my reasoning:

!If I remember right, The earrings are something Reen allegedly found on Vin's mother. If they indeed carry Hemalurgic power, it would mean that they have been pierced through someone's heart. But they are beads, so not really something sharp or long enough to pierce a human body... They could have possibly been cut off a bigger piece of metal used for the necessary human sacrifice, but we also know that the power of spikes decades if those are not directly inserted in the host...!<

!However, if those turn out to be Hemalurgic spikes, then it's possible that Vin's mother used Vin's sister to create one (or both) of them when killing her. Vin's mother has been depicted as mad: this madness could also be a sign that she was hearing Ruin's voice in her minds as well. Alternatively, Reen could have played a role in the spikes creation, since he is ultimately the one giving the her the earrings !<

It's possible I've missed some details so far that would immediately render my theory even less valid. If so, please point those out, possibly without confirming nor disproving my theory.

I'd love to keep reasoning on proper facts before discovering more by reading on.

Thanks for reading this far :)

Edit: I am currently at chapter 46 of Hero of Ages.

Theoretically, if a practiced kandra such as Tensoon took time to perfectly replicate human biology, could they make their body produce actual sperm/eggs which could be used in reproduction?

If they're replicating human biology, would the result of this end up being a regular human? Could they modify the genetics to create some weird, human/kandra hybrid?

Would the offspring be sentient? Humans have sentience built into them, but kandra get sentience from hemalurgic spikes.

I’m reading through Mistborn Era 1 for the first time, currently a little over half way through Well of Ascension. I’ve become absolutely enthralled by this series and I have no friends that read and no one to talk to aboutit. Would love to either 1) Meet some new people that would like to chat about Mistborn or 2) Meet someone that is also reading through Well of Ascension/Mistborn Era 1 that would be interested in a buddy read

Apologies in advance if this is not allowed, but figured it would be worth a shot. If you are interested or in the same boat as me, let’s connect!

Simply... WOW!

The emotions at the end there! Somehow it's pulling on my tears even stronger than the ending of Hero of Ages...

I love how we are getting chapters where we are seeing the story with Wayne's and Marasi's first person perspective, definitly made their characters felt closer as a reader. Getting to see the kandras returning into the story is also very exicting!

Really interesting to see Marasi's slow bubble getting some critical uses again towards the end there just like Alloy of Law. I really want to know if we will get Wayne and Marasi getting to use their bubbles together, what benefits could that give? Either a slow bubble fully enclosing a fast bubble or something like a venn diagram where you stuck a person in between the two? Obviously don't spoil me whether that happens in a later book or not, I will RAFO myself :D

I'm reading Tress of the Emerald Sea, and I'm wondering if this is just a meta-reference, or if somehow the mythos of Marsh have traveled the Cosmere. We know the book happens after era 2 since there is a Kandra in it.

Asked the other month or so if going from the first era to the second was okay and have just fished the Law of Alloy

Found it hard to get into just to begin with as I really enjoyed the first era and worried I'd struggle to really accept the new characters. I also found it odd seeing guns as I was used to a medieval setting and read the original trilogy after reading the game of thrones books.

However it started to grow on me and when Wayne comes into the book that's when I started to really enjoy it. Wax and Wayne play off eachother so well although I'll add the way this plays out is something that wouldn't probably work in real life as in it's something that I think would only work in film, books etc.

I think why I also struggled at first is the book doesn't really start with much of a mystery or goal. The original trilogy has a very epic feel to it and we are introduced to the whole plot to topple the final empire pretty quickly. When the mystery starts to appear it's very small scale to begin with although I did find myself enjoying but took me a bit to get used to the small scale side. Then things start getting bigger which I enjoyed as I like a good deep mystery.

Haven't got any of the next books yet but will do soon and looking forward to what's next although it looks like it might be a separate story, maybe linked somehow.

I'm in the early chapters of the third act. Where "Kelsier" tells him not to remove the metal that chipped off into his shoulder after his fight.

Theory the metal is acting like a spike in the Inquisitors via hemalurgy and the voice is Ruin not Kelsier!!!! As soon Ruin said not to remove it, I feel almost certain!

This is such a juicy twist. Please be ok spook, you're the best character of the book so far!

The Alloy of Law is not part of the second Trilogy? that's what brandon says before the prologue, obviously i'm going to read it i just want to understand what does that mean

It’s such a useless ability.

Is there even a situation where using aluminum is useful?

This made me absolutely laugh out loud. I’ll never think of balding in the same way again

Regarding Wax’s attempt to split Harmonium, and his minor success at it.

My theory is simple: only Autonomy’s metal (trellium) could split harmonium into its base components. Reason? Its AUTONOMY. If they tried to do it with, for example, Taravangium or something, the intent of the metal wouldn’t be conducive to splitting it. Autonomy wants individual greatness, therefore it splits.

First: I have read everything, but keep it to max Hero of Ages spoilers, so more people can discuss here.

I think Breeze isn't talked about that much here compared to other Mistborn characters and I think it's a shame.
For me Breeze is one of the best written characters from Brandon.

Just now I had to think back to the siege of Luthadel, specifically when Clubs got cut down in front of Breeze.
Breeze then proceeded to seemingly give up his last hope and just huddle down in some cranny.
But at the end of the siege we see that he never really gave up, maybe with his mind, but not with his heart!
The whole time he just lay there crying he still soothed many soldiers around him, who gave him the credit for their survival and their strenght to fight on, far beyond a logical point.

Seeing him broken afterwards, made me cry harder than any deaths in the series. To the outside he always wanted to look egoistic, but in the few conversations he had with Clubs, we see he does care about the people around him, about the crew.

I am just so glad he did have a good ending with Alrianna. I couldn't have taken it if Brando made him die or brake once more.

Also the fact that he started to constantly burn brass, just to bolster literally anyone he came by. Even the cooking girls.

For me he is just such a relatable character. While we all egoistically want good lifes, there's still the will to help others, because it does feel good.

The way he once explained that he isn't cheating with human interactions, he just has brass to empower what he already does. As someone working with kids, I definitly could use some brass to help me here and there :D

Also I kinda would have loved to see him become a Soothing-Savant. I have so many ideas what a brass-Savant could be, but the chance is we will never know.

Thx for reading. I just needed to talk about him. What are your thoughts about Breeze?

My poor boy Wax!

For the duration of the book, i had in mind that Reddi was Bleeder, but Innate being Bleeder makes so much sense! Best posituon to ruin a city.

Also, in hindsight, it makes so much more sense why Bleeder kept Wax alive. She didn't want to hurt him directly.

So now Trellium has been introduce, no clue who Trell is, but I'll make a prediction. Bleeder clearly was doing things by following Trell. I got the feeling that Bleeder wanted the Scandrians to be free of Harmony and essentially be autonomous. Now, I know my Adonalsium shards, so I predict that Trell is the Shard of Autonomy!

Also, TenSoon is still alive?!?!

Excited for bands of mourning

I’m curious to know what everyone’s favourite quotes from the books are. Can be from era 1 or 2!

One personal favourite of mine is from Wayne. “ain't no fellow who regretted giving it one extra shake, but you can bet every guy has regretted giving it one too few”

I am distraught. To think I couldn't get into the Final Empire and almost gave up on the series. I'm going to miss all of the characters especially Sazed and TenSoon. I was holding it together for the most part until Vin and Eland are shown holding hands.

What a beautiful series overall. I'm going to miss this journey.