That’s all. I’ve never felt this way about a book or book series in my entire life. Finished at the beginning of March and I think about the ending every single day. Brandon Sanderson is HIM. 😭

My fiancé is about start Hero of Ages and I cannot wait to see how he reacts. He didn’t love book 1 like I did but enjoyed it. He thought WoA was incredible. I’m so excited for him to see how this story concludes. Then obviously I’ll make him read Secret History.

Anyone else enjoy watching someone read and react to something that means so much to you?!

Ho. ly. Shit.

That was FUCKING insane. Right from the start, the book was so good I was 150 pages in before I even could conceive doing anything but turning the page. The TenSoon chapters were so good I’m so sad we’ll never see him again. But holy hell, this book really had it all. Crazy intense fight scenes, the overwhelming sense of conspiracy and hidden knowledge, the slow build up of reveals, the TWISTS? Dude I flip a page and I read WELCOME TO GODHOOD VIN AND THERES STILL LIKE 20 PAGES LEFT . Almost every plot point tied up neatly too, just nuts. I literally didn’t expect a single thing at the very end, I thought that might sacrifice herself but that Elend would live. And man I haven’t even mentioned the whole fuckin voodoo pincushion magic that had me on the edge during all of spooks stuff, like seriously how was half the book a mystery book while also being an action book while also being like a profound introspection on life and belief and faith and what it means to be your own person and duty vs desire and so much more like oh my god man this guy is actually a genius this shit was so peak holy fuck.

The only gripes I could possibly list if I had to would be that I wish we got a little more TenSoon, I loved him and was really hoping to see him reunite with vin. I also kinda wish we got a marsh death POV at the end there. Also why did tensoon carry Kelsiers bones with him if he never used them after he left luthadel lol.

QUESTIONS FOR COSMERE KNOWERS: do we get to like, meet sazed again ever? Is he like actually straight up god now lmfao or is there some like ‘higher order being’ stuff in the cosmere? He mentioned talking to bin and Kelsier, no way they ever come back surely? How does the cosmere even work, is it like a multiverse type deal or is it like starwars? And finally, should I just go straight to mistborn era 2 or should I go read like some of the short stories involving kelsier that I’ve heard about ?

In Mistborn, they say that a Mistborn should burn away metals before bedtime because poisonous metals. But if a misting were to ingest one of the poisonous metals (assuming that it wasn’t their affinity) would they know it was there and be able to burn it or could it possibly kill them/make them sick.

Thinking about Zane trying to off Straff and if he could have just spiked his metal reserves with an unusable toxic metal

About halfway through hero of ages and I’m flipping out, the connections and call backs are insane! I’m like 90% sure Vin’s earring is the hematurgical spike used by ruin. That’s why her mom killed her sister! But that leaves so many more questions how tf did ruin even know to do that, why is vin special ?! Are the mists actually preservation instead of ruin related??? wtf is going on with spook, why is spook being used to try to kill the citizen ??? I thought I’d get answers to the nebulous concepts of what the spikes were for like at the very end of the book but now that we’ve been told this shit halfway through what the hell is going to happen at the actual end of the story this is crazy

Ok I understand hemulargy, but how does a person survive getting a nail pierced through the eyes and outta the head? Do we have an official explanation from Sanderson? Maybe a WoB?

(I only haven't read TLM and the secret projects so feel free to spoil all the other books)

In allomancy, people can only use one metal or all of them. Is that the same in feruchemy or can a feruchemist use all of the metals?

I read the Mistborn Era 1 a couple of years ago. But I keep finding myself coming back to it and thinking about how great the storytelling was with the various foreshadowings, callbacks, and twists throughout the trilogy. I tried to search for different threads that discuss some of the minute details within Era 1 but I have not found one. So I wanted to start this one and create a list and some discussion around a few of these different details which I think were so perfectly done.

*I have only read Era 1 and Secret History, so please no spoilers for anything beyond Era 1. I am going off of memory here and only one read-through so please bear with me and correct anything I might have missed.

1. Vin's earring. It seems so obvious in hindsight that she was only able to use the power of the mists when her earring was removed in The Final Empire. She spends so much of Book 2 and Book 3 trying to figure out why she can't harness the mists anymore and the answer was right in front of her.
2. The Lord Ruler was a "good" guy. There is so much foreshadowing in the epigraphs at the beginning of each chapter of Book 1. Again, in hindsight, it becomes clear what happened to Rashek and how the Lord Ruler came to be.
3. The Kandra. The revelation that they are from the original Terris Feruchemists was great. And their hemalurgic spikes, and decision to remove them at the end of the series, is heartbreaking.

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What else am I missing or what did I get wrong / miss a detail on? I love Mistborn and am excited to read further on in this series soon (maybe after an Era 1 read-through :) )

In misborn series 2, there are characters who are described to have koloss blood in them. Did Harmony change them so they had genitalia so they could breed I guess? Even if that were to happen, I can’t see humans willing to breed with them, and I don’t see Harmony wanting to make it so koloss could r*pe. Thoughts?

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Can't wait to see you all there 

Every time he spoke, I heard him in Lance Reddick's voice from the John Wick movies.

What was yours?

I've finally started Secret History. I've heard it's very important to Mistborn and the Cosmere, so this is something I want to take my time reading. I'll be posting my reactions to each part, starting with Part 1: Empire. This part was short but had a surprising amount of info.

I'm beyond happy to see Kelsier again. "I am hope" always gets me and I SCREAMED in the final scene of book 6. It seems like Secret History will reveal different sides to Kelsier's personality. Here, I saw his fear of death and unwillingness to pass away, his drive to discover the truth behind secrets, his justified lack of faith in God, regret for hurting Vin and the crew. And the absolute BALLS to punch God then finesse God! That was totally unexpected, comedy gold right there! 🤣

The words Spiritual Realm and the capital C word - Connection - showed up. I remember from book 6 that Connection is a Spiritual Realm property, includes Connection to lands, and includes Connection between people (i.e. Connection between Handerwym and koloss). I'm confident the magic system of The Emperor's Soul manipulates the Connection within the souls of people and objects. Guess I shouldn't be shocked it's in the workings of Allomantic malatium (gold too?).

Here I bear witness Rashek's final moments. It's honestly depressing. I would've loved to seen Rashek's personality from his POV or the Firsts, people very close to him. And even though he was a scumbag, he was essential to Preservation's Plan. I like to theorize Rashek was either religiously motivated or had a duty to protect Scadrial once he glimpsed Preservation’s Plan. But lost his sense of devotion after so long. I don’t think Rashek just starting out would’ve silenced Fuzz or called him an impotent mouse 😂

I’m surprised to learn Ruin was attacking Preservation even before his release. So the hologram must be showing a representation of Preservation taking Ruin’s attacks and losing his mind. The passage about Ruin’s alterations is pretty shocking as well. At this time, no one knew about the Terris Prophecies or religion outside of Alendi’s logbook and kandra. But there were the Steel Ministry and the 600+ religions studied by Keepers. We know from WoBs and book 3 implications that Preservation wrote the Terris Prophecies and hid gems from Ruin in all of humanity’s religions. IIRC those gems were hidden to help the Hero of Ages his gambits would lead into. My speculation is Ruin wasn’t just altering Sazed’s rubbings. He was altering Alendi's logbook, the Keepers’ copperminds, the Keepers’ texts, and the Steel Ministry’s texts. And it appears Preservation has been actively writing stuff that Ruin altered. Pretty hypocritical for Pres to dislike Ruin for “making the religion all about him” even though Pres did the same thing 💀

A lot about Preservation in this section. Fuzz is a living contradiction. He's the god of stasis, yet he accepts that death is the natural progress of things... Though, The Plan is a contradiction to begin with. And it doesn’t seem like his planning was as certain as I thought. When I look back to the Mistborn Trilogy, one of my personal gripes was Preservation and mortals outsmarting/overcoming Ruin around the time he appeared to Vin at Fadrex. But it turns out I might be wrong lol.

Fuzz didn’t foresee that Kelsier would have a 100% chance of dying by letting the Lord Ruler kill him, or at least didn't foresee it as a likely possibility. He even said futuresight is cloudy - made of many possibilities. He didn’t understand why Ruin let Kelsier use malatium. And all these distortions are definitely because his mind has been degrading for millennia. It seems like Fuzz - Leras - Preservation - knew the Well of Ascension wouldn’t trap Ruin/Ati forever, that he would break free eventually. So he set up gambits that might eventually come to fruition, like the army of atium Mistings preventing Ruin from regaining his full power.

I have to respect the fact Fuzz’s mind has been dying for millennia, yet he has the cognition to manifest holograms that move and have conversations wiyj every dying soul. As well as the cognition to watch the fight between Kelsier and the Inquisitor.

Going back to Rashek, my theory is Fuzz's anger at Rashek's death is an instance of Preservation not remembering this part of the plan. The way I see it, Rashek needed to die for many of Pres’ gambits to come to fruition, cuz Rashek would’ve killed or captured the pawns like Vin, or Sazed, or the mistfallen. But Preservation can’t remember this.

There's the magic number sixteen! The mistfallen! I remember that Harmony said Preservation hid clues about the number sixteen, before he imprisoned Ruin. Guess this means Preservation set up the snapping Mists before the imprisonment, planting unaware Allomancers over the course of thousands of years. Setting up the gambit of Allomancers who can burn Ruin’s atium.

To close off the post, I gotta call crap on Fuzz's claims. There’s no way Kelsier is the only person in history to punch him or beg for revival. I suspect whatever he did to Kelsier is a gambit that’s part of the plan... which I don't remember well lmao. Was the plan made when Fuzz was smarter the Terris Prophecies and the Hero of Ages?

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I put a spoiler alert because I didn’t realize I could ruin it for others. I went looking for spoilers myself after I read the end of TFE and other Reddit posts that didn’t do the alert so I didn’t think much of it - I’m really sorry to that one person I ruined it for. 😔

In any case, here’s what I posted originally and redoing it now because I’m hoping to find answers.

OP: Just finished TFE, and I’m beyond annoyed at how they killed Kelsier. Annoyed to the point where I’m not sure how I can enjoy the rest of the series of books. He was so integral, he felt like most of the amazingness because he was so charismatic, so now I feel almost depressed knowing he won’t be around. I’ve read that others felt the same, felt like they couldn’t enjoy the rest of the books and wanted to stop reading them because how could it feel worth it after killing off such a great character? Did anyone else feel like this, still read on, and was glad they did because the books got better even without Kelsier?

Don’t get me wrong, I loooooooooooooved the book way more than I thought I would (it was my first fantasy-read in decades). But when that happened today (read the part where he dies), it made me hope others felt how I feel and then found out the series redeemed itself despite killing off the greatest character.

Anyone?

(I should note, I read up on a ton of spoilers to try and help me feel better via some silver lining that was coming)

Just finished reading those two chapters, and Kelsier’s death was so out of the blue. I expected him to die eventually, but not in the first book. He genuinely convinced you that he wasn’t going to die, so it really was a WTF moment. The Lord Ruler’s introduction was crazy as well, taking two spears to the chest, and the face-off and killing of Kelsier was really tense. If the books ever get an adaptation, this is the scene I would look forward to really seeing. First time reading Sanderson, and I’m really enjoying his work.

Wow that was awesome,I just finished SH and I enjoyed it throughly. Kelsier is my favorite mistborn character so having another story about him was just amazing. I feel like usually resurrections of characters tend to be more on the bullshit side but I like how it was handled.

Kelsier is a character from who you expect to cling to life with everything he can, and contrasting him with vin, makes it seem more authentic and it made me connect more with his ending(or new beginning).

I liked the retelling of WOA and HOA from kelsier’s pov and seeing what he did during that time and how he helped our crew, and I thought that his relationship with spook was handled exceptionally well.

I also enjoyed all of the cosmere connections, I have only read the mistborn series(haven’t gotten to the lost metal yet) and the emperor’s soul, so until the last couple of novels I couldn’t find many cosmere connections but now it’s becoming more and more tangible and it’s awesome.

The only problem I have with this novel is I wished we got a longer epilogue to see a bit more about what Kelsier and spook were up to after the catacendere, although we got to see a bit of kelsier’s deeds in BOM I’d have liked to see a bit more.

Overall a fantastic novel!

WHAT THE FUUUUUCCCCCCCK HOW WAS THAT ENDING EVEN MORE INTENSE THAN THE LAST ONE ?!?!?!?!? Good god I was expecting it to be slightly worse than the first one because I think the first one is a straight 10/10 but even with the kinda boring middle bits that dragged a little this book was crazy, insane ending I didn’t see a single twist that happened holy shit man my heart was actually racing. HOW IS EVERYTHING GOING TO BE SOLVED IN ONE MORE BOOK ?!?!?

I finished The Lost Metal a couple days ago. I was devastated for Wayne, obviously. However, now that I have had time to think, I never could've imagined that we would get Steris of all people finding random moments to use Wayne's quotes hahahah.

By the end she's such a goofball and it's adorable.

I just finished the bands of mourning and what the actual fuck?!?!?

Great novel, I liked seeing more of steris, her character really clicked for me now even though I thought she was just okay before. Same goes for marasi, I didn’t like her very much but now I feel she’s great and more fleshed out. Wayne is Wayne is great. And Wax is awesome as always and I liked his interactions with steris and their relationship.

Wax talking to harmony after he died was one of my favorite scenes I’ve ever read, this novel has so much great scenes! Wayne having no clue what to do after wax’s death and going to shoot telsin was exceptional as well.

While I saw the telsin “twist” coming from a mile away as I’m sure many other people have the sovereign twist left me dumbfounded and was truly great.

This novel and era 2 in general is awesome, I think I like it more than era 1 and I can’t wait to dive into the lost metal after finishing secret history.

Here is the game. If you're not familiar with how to play, you have to make groups of 4 that all fit into some overarching category. Some tiles fall into more than one category, so you might need to work your way through to narrow down the groupings. Categories go from easy to hard, I hope you all give it a go!

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*Title should be NYT for New York Times, not New Tork Wimes

I’m like 1/4 through hero of ages and this never happened so far in the other two books.

I just finished HoA, and thus far mistborn is some of the best literature I've ever read.

All three of the books included a lot of interesting plot-lines that was kind of hard to understand at first, that were tied neatly up, proper RAFO. >!The way points were introduced early in the story, forgotten about, and then suddenly given relevance was really enjoyable, and i was not able to foresee almost any of it. Even just in HoA, how Spook was impaled through a Thug, and the metal remained, just a short time after the concept was shown with Marsh spiking Penrod. I somehow thought Spook seeing Kelsier was due to him becoming a tin-savant. Or that damn earring! It just felt so normal, that even after Spook said "Dont trust anyone pierced by metal! Even the smallest bit can taint a man." the earring didnt come to mind, though the Lord Rulers bracers did.( I had no idea what to call spoilers, but thid felt right)!<

The ending was also tied up very nicely, closing up the era as a canvas ready for a new artwork.

Is has been proper joy to refind my love of reading over the last two months, and i have already orderd the second era (if there is aything other than TFE, WoA and HoA i should read fist, please tell me).

I am nearing the completion of the first part of Book 3, I have got to say I am really loving the story. I enjoyed speculating at who the traitor was in WoA and never expected it to be OreSeur (or should I say TenSoon) and was even upset at all the deaths. One thing I have enjoyed is seeing Sazed’s turmoil with religions after losing Tindwyl. Something that stuck out to me was the mention from TenSoon that Kandra are “children of Preservation” while humans are “children of Ruin.” At first the capitalization stuck out to me and I figured it was important, but now Ruin has been mentioned in each chapter of Hero of Ages thus far. I feel like Ruin and Preservation are more than just metaphors, but real deities of Scadrial as a whole, foreshadowing with Sazed’s exploration and search for a true religion.

this is my fan art of when Spook is in the burning building and Kelsier comes to him and grants the gift of pewter.

I've just finished chapter 17 from the well of ascension - where vin had her spar with zane after meeting him at keep venture as a messenger.

I noticed that the way Brandon describes this scene, using words like 'elegant' 'graceful' and 'beautiful' almost makes it seem like more or a dance than a sparring session. To me this was a comparison to Vin and Elend first meeting at the ball with this theme of dancing being there.

Could he be foreshadowing a possible love triangle situation between them three?

I just wanted to mention here and also wanted to know if anyone else spotting something like this when they were reading for the first time?

Elend Venture is my favorite character in the Mistborn Era 1 trilogy and sadly, I seem to be among the minority in this case. Please prove me wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I love Kelsier, Vin, Sazed and the others. I read about a lot of characters some of whom I come to love, but rarely have I ever read a character who inspired me to be atleast half as good as them. Elend is one such character. I see that some people have characterised him as the "typical morally right" character(which somehow equals boring). But that makes me love him so much more. He has place for softness in his heart despite how his father treated him. He had hope for a better world. Seeing him become a "better" emperor under Tindwyl's tutelage was truly so satisfying. Its ridiculous how I felt like a proud mama hen in those moments.

And toxic masculinity who? Elend knows no such person. He is truly a gem of a character. The faith and support he gives Vin is such a refreshing thing to see.

Overall, more appreciation for soft boy(but so much more than that) Elend Venture would be nice. Thank u.

Prenote: Ive read all of the mistborn content and plenty of other Sanderson works but I have tagged this as TFE so anyone can get involved as rioting is pretty basic stuff. Feel free to reference possible spoilers for other books but obviously with a tag for which book will be spoiled for people who havent read as much.

My question here is whether it is even possible to riot empathy in a psychopath? Although most professionals seem to characterise or define psychopathy differently, most can agree that psychopaths (and machiavellians) have no capacity to feel empathy (unlike sociopaths and narcissists). If a psychopath has 0 ability to feel empathy in the first place and they are incapable of it - would a rioter be able to force it on them or is there simply no empathy emotion for them to "pull on" in the same way thet its impossible to pull a rope that simply isn't there.

What does reddit think?

Holy shit I absolutely LOVED that novel. From the point where you learn who the spy was (did NOT see that shit coming) to the end I could not put it down. I’m so glad I started this trilogy and am giving myself some time to reflect on it before starting Hero of Ages. But as of right now Well of Ascension might be my new favorite book. There needs to be justice for my boy Sazed tho, he didn’t deserve to go through that! Ugh I’ll be thinking about this book for weeks I can tell

How do you think screens would apply with the whole "anything not written in metal" thing?