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Pilot Certificate Badges

  • SIM - Simulators only, or pre-student interest
  • ST - Student
  • SPT - Sport Pilot
  • UPL - Ultralight Pilot (EASA)
  • RPL - Recreational Pilot
  • LAPL - Light Aircraft Pilot (EASA)
  • PPL - Private Pilot
  • CPL - Commercial Pilot
  • ATP - Airline Transport Pilot
  • CFI - FAA Certified Flight Instructor
  • FI - Flight Instructor (non-FAA Country)
  • MIL - AF,N,A - Military pilot, AF, N, A, etc.

Ground Certificate Badges

  • A&P - Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
  • ATC - Air Traffic Control
  • DIS - Dispatcher (Part 121)
  • FSS - Flight Services
  • GND - Ground Instructor
  • FAA - FAA Employee

Rating Badges

  • AB - Aerobatics
  • ABI - Aerobatics Instructor
  • CFII - FAA Certified Flight Instructor Instrument
  • FII - Flight Instructor Instrument (non-FAA Country)
  • CMP - Complex
  • HA - High Altitude
  • HP - High Performance
  • IR - Instrument Rating
  • ME - Multi-Engine
  • MEI - Multi-Engine Instructor
  • TW - Tail-wheel

Category/Class Badges

  • GLI - Glider
  • LTA - Lighter than Air
  • MEL - Multi-Engine Land
  • MES - Multi-Engine Sea
  • ROT - Rotary
  • SEL - Single-Engine Land
  • SES - Single-Engine Sea
  • UAS - Unmanned Aerial System
  • ULM - Ultralight (motored)

IRC Channel

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DPEs not doing checkrides for ATP?

I didn’t go to ATP or work at ATP but I do fly near a couple locations. I’ve sent a few students to checkride, all with different examiners. During the pre brief I’ve had two specifically say they don’t do checkrides for ATP.

Thought it was interesting.

1 Comment
2025/01/18
22:01 UTC

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What to do after learning enough for ppl but not old enough to aquire a liscense

As the title says I’m 15 and I have been enrolled In flight school since 14 and I know everything I need to know I could get my ppl anytime I want but I’m not old enough so since I have reached this stage what else do I do? There’s basically nothing else to do and it gets more boring every visit to training school Thank you

15 Comments
2025/01/18
21:28 UTC

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My Country Holding Me Back

Hope everyone's doing well

So basically, starting with some context/background info. I'm a Pakistani passport holder who's lived his whole life in the Gulf (Saudi to be specific). I went to an International school in the capital, graduated, and went to Canada on a student visa for an engineering degree. After finishing off my first 2 years (with very good grades) I decided this isn't what I wanted to continue studying, and before splashing another +100k I made the decision to take a gap year and go back to Saudi to be with my family and figure things out.

Aviation, something I've had an interest and passion for, wasn't something that I ever took seriously when considering a career, until now. I've really been looking into it, talking to everyone and anyone I know who has any relations at all to the aviation world and its only really gotten me even more interested (an understatement might I add).

Here is where I've gotten confused. Ok so money isn't a problem in this situation. I'm very grateful that I have all the means necessary to go abroad or locally for my licenses. (0 flight experience) to most academies/schools. I haven't had too many problems in looking into schools (right now I have my eyes set on Paris Air in Florida and AELO in Switzerland). The problems as I'm sure you've already guessed arise with my passport. After I graduate, get as many licenses as possible, I'll have nowhere to go. My validity in Saudi will have ended by the time I graduate, and anyway gulf airlines only hire experienced pilots. I won't be able to work in the states seeing as I'd be an international student. From what I've read about Europe, the market is extremely saturated and no airline would take a foreigner (let alone a Pakistani considering our aviation reputation) when they have hundreds of their own lined up with the same if not better qualifications. Now my end goal is definitely to make it back to a gulf country, so I'm willing to get my hours however or wherever. I would easily consider Pakistan because in terms of living, I live in a very good area and commuting isn't an issue, the only problem is getting an Airline job here without going through the airforce, and without being willing to bribe your way through, is more or less impossible (and the wages are almost disgustingly low). so that's like the worst option of them all.

TLDR:

I can study and get my licenses anywhere no problemo, but my citizenship is Pakistani and I can't work there. Can't work in the states, and apparently Europe is unlikely even if i go to an academy in either place.

Piloting is something i REALLY want to do and I still am looking at all options and talking to people i know, i just wanted to get the opinions of even more people on here cos well, you never know.

PS: before anyone mentions it, yes i know its easier said than done, and yes i do come from a line of pilots but cant go to my father for help since he is no longer with us and the time he got his career on track was a very different time from now and the PIA was actually respected.

4 Comments
2025/01/18
19:15 UTC

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Why doesn't the FAA just change RIGYY to an IAF? (desc. in comments)

23 Comments
2025/01/18
21:17 UTC

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Choosing flight school

Any suggestions for flight school in canada ??

6 Comments
2025/01/18
20:47 UTC

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US Pilot considering commercial flying in EU - how the lifestyle etc?

Hello everyone. I am a commercial instrument helicopter pilot is considering a transition to airline life in the states and potently in the EU. I recently married an EU citizen and we are discussing relocation and potentially what I could do for work.

I am a low time helicopter guy so I'm not sure that's worth time building to do in the EU so airlines seem more realistic from my current perspective.

Currently if this makes sense I intend to complete the fixed wing add on ratings, then time build to a US ATP level.

I see from previous discussions here some EU airlines hire at 200 hrs with restriction. (I'm not sure if that's total time or time in type or with with ATP equivalent?)

What is the lifestyle like for a junior person? Is it like the US regionals where you're on the road away from home for a week then 1-2 weeks home with reserve? Do you potentially just fly a few days a week and it's closer to a normal job? Do you feel the pay is adequate to live a comfortable lifestyle with a little extra ?

Since countries are close, do people commute from one country to another for domicile? Is domicile a thing as well with seniority? Could I theoretically work for let's say Air France but live in Norway (not sure of routing / domiciles just picked something wild for that).

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm trying to gather data to see if this is a worth pursuit and makes sense for our new family. I'm interested in all perspective and things to further research to develop a plan / decision. Thank you all!

8 Comments
2025/01/18
19:43 UTC

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Pre-solo exam?

Whenever I see people talk about soloing for the first time on here, or letting their student solo for the first time, it seems almost spontaneous. I’ve heard people say that they even try to surprise their students by not telling them they’re soloing that day. How does this work with the required pre-solo knowledge test? Do students at other schools take it early on to get it over with, or right before they actually solo? Thanks.

5 Comments
2025/01/18
19:13 UTC

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A320 engine start with fuel pump off

Hi What would happen if pilots will start engines in a320 with fuel pumps off? Will the gravity fueling work or there is some kind of protection?

25 Comments
2025/01/18
19:07 UTC

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Learning a second language

Any advice on how to gain better exposure to specific aviation technical vocabulary in target language?

… It’s proven (surprisingly) difficult to find/order a typical book on aerodynamics or systems in a language that isn’t English, as it looks like most international flight schools’ materials are in English (for obvious reasons.) The best I’ve found so far is a pretty extensive English/French/Spanish technical aeronautical dictionary, but I tend to learn best by actually reading about the subject in context or listening to people speak— as opposed to just reading down the dictionary.

Are there any aviation YouTubers who make content in French or Spanish? Or podcasts that you guys recommend?

5 Comments
2025/01/18
18:15 UTC

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Flights school in New York or New Jersey

Hey guys, I’m looking to finish my science degree early at my university and go to flight school in New York, because that’s my dream living destination, or at the very least New Jersey or somewhere else in the vicinity of New York. Does anybody recommend ATP? I’ve heard good and bad things about it and I wanna know before I research too deep. Was also considering Vaughn College of Aeronautics and Technology, anyone know anything tangible about it? Would love some insight. If anyone knows more good schools within like an hour drive of New York let me know too. Thank you!!!!

9 Comments
2025/01/18
18:00 UTC

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What planes have enough differential alierons to eliminate adverse jaw without rudder?

I heard that some planes have differential alierons so i wonder if that would prevent adverse yaw.

41 Comments
2025/01/18
17:58 UTC

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How to get the most out of flight lessons

Hey everyone,

I'm currently taking flight lessons and I want to make sure I’m getting the most out of each lesson I get. I’ve noticed that sometimes in calm weather and nice conditions, the learning opportunities can be limited. What are some strategies or tips to maximize learning during my flight training? Whether it's specific techniques, ways to challenge myself to make it more difficult, etc. I’d love to hear your advice and experiences.

Thanks!

28 Comments
2025/01/18
17:43 UTC

61

Have you ever flown with a captain that doesn’t think they need to use checklists?

crazy story I heard from a buddy of mine about some cowboys in the 135 world

75 Comments
2025/01/18
17:31 UTC

4

Service volume confusion

I haven’t been able to find an answer regarding why the Groton VOR/DME is classified as terminal/terminal if DME volumes are only low and high. Any thoughts?

10 Comments
2025/01/18
16:48 UTC

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budding aviation lawyer in the UK

hi all, I'm interested in becoming a aviation & space lawyer but I don't really know how to. I've done my basic law undergrad and now i'm working towards passing the SQE in the UK. to be honest, i wasn't sure about what type of lawyer i wanted to be but after talking to a few people i have a clearer picture now.

i tried finding aviation law jobs but haven't had any luck so far. is there anything i can do to increase my knowledge about the aviation law industry or anything i can do to increase my chances of securing a job? one main problem i'm facing is that whatever i learnt in law school and for the SQE is very commercial & corporate law heavy. is it too late for me?

3 Comments
2025/01/18
15:59 UTC

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Opinions on social media

Title pretty much says it all… I was wondering what some more experienced pilots have to say about social media posts and what is acceptable vs what isn’t. I want a career in aviation so I’m debating if it’s a good idea to just delete my social media accounts and leave the past behind.

First of all. I have 2 flying vids on my Instagram. Both were taken by my GF (non pilot passenger) while I was flying for $100 burger dates. I used to be a fitness model and trainer as a previous job before taking up flying. I built up a pretty large following on Instagram. I don’t have onlyfans or post anything of that sort. But I do have lots shirtless pictures from modeling shoots I’ve been booked for as well as my portfolio.. as well as fitness content. When I google my name all that comes up is my old athletics records and articles from the NCAA and some newspapers. And the magazines I’ve been featured in.

Will the airlines not like this or will I be fine and my co workers just thing I’m a douche bag?

6 Comments
2025/01/18
15:54 UTC

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Is there a way to see what area ATC controls and what frequency they are on?

I know there are many websites that show ATC, but for example, they just show the area that the NY center covers. I know there are many NY center controllers, and they all control different parts. Is there a place where I can see exactly what sections they control and what frequency they are on?

12 Comments
2025/01/18
15:44 UTC

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Good rate (climb/descend) ATC Controllers

I was climbing at roughly 3,000 fpm when was told to climb at a “good rate” through 210. It got me thinking.

Controllers, what do you mean/expect when you say good rate on a climb/descend?

Thank You!

14 Comments
2025/01/18
15:15 UTC

336

Stupidest reason you’ve heard of someone losing a flying job?

I’ll go first, at my old company I knew of an FO who was fired on the first day of his first ever flying job for failing the drugs/alcohol testing we have to do for indoc

The most absurd part is he would’ve known the test was coming 1-2 weeks ahead of time, airlines don’t mess around with this stuff so I can’t imagine what the guy was thinking.

340 Comments
2025/01/18
15:10 UTC

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Anybody hear about the pilot that got arrested for a DUI in the cockpit?

Obviously, the guy is going to get fired or has been fired, but I’m curious to know what the outlook for the rest of his career will be like considering this event.

Does anybody have an idea?

45 Comments
2025/01/18
15:02 UTC

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If you had one year in my shoes, what would you do?

I'm saving money in 2025 so I can start flight school in 2026 with a local part 61, paying as I go and avoiding debt. I already went up for an intro flight and absolutely loved it.

This year, I'd like to do as much as I can to prepare for flight school. I am getting Sporty's Private, Instrument, and Commercial combo, and planning on going through those courses thoroughly so that I can give them a second go around to solidify the knowledge as I actually fly for each rating. I'll try to get my private written test out of the way before I start flying using Sheppard air to prepare.

Anything else you guys might recommend I do to get as much utility out of this year as I can before I start flying? Would you do anything different in my situation?

My end goal is to end up flying commercial with an airline for a career. I already have an undergraduate degree.

19 Comments
2025/01/18
14:42 UTC

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Canadian ppl flying in USA

Hi Everyone! I am just about to obtain my PPL in Canada. Its hard to fly here in the winter months due to low ceilings and overall bad weather. I was thinking about going to fly in the USA for a couple months to try to get lots of hours. Has anyone done this before? Are Canadian PPL recognized in the USA? Thank you!

2 Comments
2025/01/17
19:03 UTC

2

how can I practice altitude accuracy

I am a student pilot approaching my checkride in 3 weeks I am good with maneuvers and have ok landings that are being worked on and my oral knowledge is ok. I have an issue though that my altitude control is poor. It feels like once I look away my altitude is 200ft off, making it very difficult to set myself up for landings, maneuvers, and general flying. Is there a way preferably outside of the cockpit(to save money) to practice staying on altitude or do you have any tricks to help?

7 Comments
2025/01/17
19:16 UTC

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Uflymike with the new Quietcomort

Hi all. I've used qc15 and 25 with uflymike for the last 15 years and haven't had any problems. I was looking to update but saw the qc45 echo problems. A few questions, does this also affect the current QuietComfort? Is the echo problem a significant problem with your experience with it? Do all qc/qc45 have it? And do you recommend still? Thanks

2 Comments
2025/01/18
13:57 UTC

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Questions for Cirrus Training Center Instructors?

Graduating soon with CFII and MEI. Looking for insight on QOL, pay, and hour requirements to be a flight instructor at one of the Cirrus Training Centers. Obviously it’s all on google, but I’d like to hear what it’s actually like from one of their instructors.

4 Comments
2025/01/18
05:26 UTC

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Home Based vs Commuting to a Legacy Airline

Currently working for a regional type airline and living in base. QofL is quite good for me personally as I'm not flying much and the drive to the airport is 30-40 min. Life is pretty easy but career progression is uncertain. Company is still in growth stages with 25-50 more frames on order and my base planned to have big expansion plans. Unfortunately we aren't unionized and the company I work for is very cheap with poor health benefits paid out of pocket, no YOS, no pension, abysmal perdiems etc. Captain upgrade could be 2 years, 5 years or 10 yrs at this point. My seniority is getting better and once we become ALPA things hopefully become even better. F/O pay is similar as anywhere else until year 4 where it becomes stagnant and falls behind. Captain pay is about 60K less on year 1 compared to AC and tops out around 300K after 12 years as opposed to 350K+.

I'm under 30 years old however and have an opportunity to work for our legacy Air Canada. Every single person has told me to take it and if I can get based in the next closest city my driving commute would be 2 to 2.5 hours + parking and shuttle to terminal). Other base assigned to me could be a 1 hour flight or 5 hour drive which I would despise, especially on reserve. QofL and convenience are very important for me as flying is just a job to me and obviously the benefits at the legacy outweigh my current operator. I did the crashpad thing for a few months before and hated it so I'm wondering if the drive is going to make me regret me choice. Short call reserve of 2 hours is a huge downside but apparently blocks can be held fairly quickly. No guarantee though and then I'm SOL resorting back to crashpad life. I'm happy where I live and could relocate but have been feeling more settled into life lately and don't want to ruin a good thing. Upgrade times at AC are 2-4 yrs, best benefits, job stability, fleet variety and career in Canada. Staying at my current airline means flying an Embraer 195 for the foreseable future. I'm just trying to find my place and enjoy life without chasing the money and sacrificing my happiness. What would you do?

19 Comments
2025/01/18
13:25 UTC

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Seeking Opinions/Perspectives EASA -> FAA

I am US citizen currently living in Europe while my wife completes a rotation here through her employer. I'm in an EASA PPL(a) program and about halfway through the theory portion. I should begin flying around April.

We have recently made the decision to return to the United States this September and I'd appreciate some outside perspectives about the best path forward as I weigh the pros and cons of finishing my license here or in the US. For now, I am pursing this as a hobby, but I'm open to making it a career. 

It appears that all flight hours that I receive here in Europe can count towards my required hours for an FAA license. 61.41(a)(2) Please correct me if I'm wrong. 

Should I: a) Aim to get my full EASA license and apply for an FAA Foreign Based license upon return to the US or b) Get as many hours as I can here and then finish with flight experience in the US and apply for a regular FAA PPL? 

Since EASA ratings do expire and require revalidation, I don't think that it's practical to maintain my EASA SEP rating while living in the US on the chance that I'd want to rent a European registered plane in the future. 

Have you had a similar experience? Is there anything I'm not considering? Do you have any fun facts you'd like to share? Any and all input is appreciated. Thanks!

3 Comments
2025/01/18
13:18 UTC

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Are there any pilots here who are veterans and have applied for VA disability benefits after being approved for a first-class medical certificate?

I have so many questions about this topic. I have a few disabilities that might qualify for VA benefits, but I’m worried about any potential interruptions to my flight training.

I’ve heard stories about how veteran disabilities can sometimes be overanalyzed. I don’t have any issues with flying; I just want to receive the benefits I’m entitled to without losing valuable training time, especially since I’m using my G.I. Bill to pay for it.

Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

10 Comments
2025/01/18
13:17 UTC

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Any of you guys travel with ski gear?

Stop me if this is dumb but I was toying with the idea of bringing my boots/helmet with me on a trip, and then darting out west after the trip for some skiing.

Per my airlines FOM, in uniform I get my suitcase as well as two personal items, and I’m seeing boot bags that take up the profile of a normal backpack, meaning this could be feasible. I’d then rent skiis when I got to my destination.

Anyone try this?

1 Comment
2025/01/18
13:17 UTC

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Looking for Must-Read Aviation Documents

Hello everyone! (first time posting) I'm studying to get my AESA ULM license (in Spain)
Sadly, the theory course is pretty basic and doesn't really provide you a lot of knowledge regarding aerodynamics, etc.
I have read stick and rudder, aerodynamics for naval aviators, but I was interested if anyone knows any more documents (like books, PDF or articles) that every student pilot should read regarding aircraft engines, aerodynamics and more? I want to be a knowledgeable pilot in the future and have an understanding of what to do in each situation.

Thanks in advance for your help! (and sorry if this has been asked before)

2 Comments
2025/01/18
11:01 UTC

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