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Subreddit dedicated to Orson Scott Card, one of the greatest science fiction/fantasy writers of our time.

Discussion about Orson Scott Card works, not about the man.

Subreddit dedicated to Orson Scott Card, one of the greatest science fiction/fantasy writers of our time.

You may disagree with his politics, but there's no denying his awesome talent.

Please don't post any spoilers in the titles and take precautions if you are going to post spoilers in the body or comments.

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Upcoming works

Title Release Date
The Gate Thief March 19, 2013
Earth Unaware June 4, 2013
Ender's Game (movie) Nov. 1st, 2013
Shadow's Alive Unknown
Master Alvin Unknown
The Sons of Rachel Unknown
Pastwatch: The Flood Unknown
Pastwatch: The Garden of Eden Unknown
Rasputin forthcoming

Ender's Game Series

Title Release Date
Ender's Game 1985
Speaker for the Dead 1986
Xenocide 1991
Children of the Mind 1996
Ender's Shadow 1999
Shadow of the Hegemon 2001
Shadow Puppets 2002
First Meetings (short story collection) 2002
Shadow of the Giant 2005
A War of Gifts: An Ender Story 2007
Ender in Exile 2008
Shadows in Flight 2012
Earth Unaware 2012
Earth Afire 2013
Shadows Alive forthcoming

OSC's preferred Enderverse reading order?

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The Worthing Saga

This book has been recommended to me on a few occasions and I finally managed to find a copy in my favourite used book store.

I will not give any of the storyline away but will say it is most definitely worth reading! It was quite the journey and I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it!

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2025/01/23
00:56 UTC

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Possible date?

I know nothing of the publishing process and just wanted to ask if anyone knew of a rough guide/estimate as to when The Queens is likely to released? (Somebody reported it was finished & now in the editing stage)

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2025/01/17
21:39 UTC

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The Alvin Maker saga: does it feel complete up to The Crystal City?

The last published Alvin Maker book was The Crystal City, 21 years ago. I know there was another book planned (Master Alvin), but I'm tired of waiting and I wanted to ask, does the series as published so far feel more or less like a complete story, or does it end in a kind of cliffhanger?

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2025/01/09
10:33 UTC

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Quim’s Name

I just realized…Quim in Speaker for the Dead’s real name is Estevão Rei. That’s the Portuguese form of Stephen, followed by the word for “king”. Card really named this boy Stephen King.

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2024/12/23
18:21 UTC

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Influences? 4X games - Worthing Saga - The game

I was looking at some new games today, and quite a few of them were the 4X genre. For some reason my brain reached way back to The Worthing Saga and I rememberd the wrold conquest sim game.

Does anybody know if the early 4X table top games from the 70s were influence for this particular story?

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2024/12/01
08:28 UTC

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Did Laddertop 3 ever come out in print?

Or only the audiobook?

And if only the audiobook, which I just don't listen to audiobooks, can someone spoiler the whole plot for me? ;-)

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2024/11/25
04:21 UTC

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Homecoming Saga

Does anyone have the ability to contact Mr Card and convince him to do one more book for the Homecoming Saga? It’s my favorite series and I love all the books and if he were to resurrect for one more book that would be amazing!

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2024/10/30
20:34 UTC

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Similarity between the Enders Game and Mither Mages series.

So, I'm reading the last shadow right now and I realized that in BOTH series, Card (my second favorite author only behind Brandon Sanderson!) used a VERY similar teleportation mechanic in both series. In Enders game it's the Aiua and in Mither Mages it's the Ka/Ba, Ba right? I can't remember. I'm not complaining or anything, I just find it interesting.

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2024/09/10
23:14 UTC

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I call this my SandOrsen shelf (top) (I really don't, I JUST reorganized my bookshelf)

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2024/07/22
01:49 UTC

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Pathfinder series completed!

This series was recommended to me by a fellow Redditor in another post of mine here.

I thoroughly enjoyed the series!!

Whenever I finish off a great series by OSC, I always feel a bit lost afterwards. Not sure what to read next as the imagery from the just finished books are still so fresh! It's almost as if I miss reading about their journey's and miss the characters!

This feeling today as especially strong after finishing the Alvin Maker series!

I have to say I really love reading OSC!

Now to try and choose the next book...

9 Comments
2024/07/18
21:47 UTC

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Master Alvin news!

I subscribe to Uncle Orson on the Fly, and just got the first chapter of Master Alvin through that! After getting the full pre-publication versions of both Side Step novels through there, it’s good to see an Alvin Maker series conclusion happening!

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2024/07/02
19:02 UTC

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The Lost Gate

Just started The Lost Gate. Like all of his novels, this too is meant to be read aloud so I'm listening on audiobook. I'm only 6 chapters in and it's already got more depth than any other fantasy novel I've read. Love this man.

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2024/06/27
21:28 UTC

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How I'm Starting the Morning

I finished the main series last month and now I want to start the Shafow Series.

9 Comments
2024/06/23
16:02 UTC

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Did anyone read wakers?

I didn't think it was bad, I just couldn't wait to finish. It felt like a mash up of a few of his past generas I couldn't get into it like I can with so many of osc books.

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2024/06/14
14:13 UTC

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Looking for the name of the book or short story.

Hey all. I read a short story years and years ago that had always stuck with me. I can’t seem to remember the name of the characters but the gist was this.

Under a dome in a prison. Elderly prisoner has a small patch of hair on his face he plays with as the main character is narrating.

Drama, action, prison break

I remember having this story in a collection of science fiction short stories. I must have misplaced it over the years but kept my original John Steakly’s “Armor” and most of my Heinlein’s for my kids to read.

So, if anyone can point me in the right direction, I’d really appreciate it.

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2024/06/07
03:42 UTC

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When will Book 3 of the Second Formic War trilogy be released?

I really loved the First and Second Formic War trilogies.

Unfortunately, the third book of the Second Formic War is still not released.

Does anyone know when it will be published?

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2024/05/16
03:20 UTC

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Grand Reopening of /r/orsonscottcard

The original mod is no longer active on Reddit and this subreddit was closed for submissions some time ago. This subreddit is back online now.

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2024/05/16
02:59 UTC

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Just finished the First Formic War Trilogy

Just finished Earth Unaware, Afire and Awakens.

Should I read the second Formic war or just skip to the Ender Series?

I see that the second Formic war series has a yet to be released third book. Is it worth reading The Swarm and The Hive before the Ender series even though they havent released the 3rd book in the second formic war series? Or should I just skip to the ender series?

Is Viktor, Rackham, Imalla and Lem in the Ender series?

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2023/07/15
00:29 UTC

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Homebody

A couple of days ago I started Homebody and am burning through it. It's been awhile since I have picked up a book that I have been this eager to keep reading and reading. I had given Ender a shot and just didn't care for it. What would be an OSC book you have read that made you feel the way I do about Homebody? I'd love to read it.

7 Comments
2023/06/08
11:51 UTC

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I’m looking for the title of a short story

library cow stupendous door point voiceless abundant subsequent languid selective this post was mass deleted with www.Redact.dev

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2023/05/27
16:14 UTC

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So many older women

I have noticed that several of the couples in the Enderverse (I’m in the middle of shadow puppets) seem to feature older women and younger men.

It’s a bit unusual—anyone else notice it? Petra and Bean, Ender and Novinha (by the time he gets there), Mr and Mrs Ender (according to Wikipedia Theresa was the graduate instructor of John Paul). Even the Surly/Virlomi (I don’t know what happens with that relationship yet, not done with the book).

I’m not saying it’s good or bad but it’s noticeable to me.

Ps how old is Peter supposed to be in Shadow Puppets?

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2023/05/19
02:44 UTC

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Couldn't finish Gatefather, it was just too awful

I'm a big fan of OSC, I love the Enderverse, and have enjoyed a number of his other books. I had originally read the gate thief trilogy a long time ago, and I've been listening to the audiobooks over the past few months. The first two books were not bad, though the characters are pretty lame, especially Danny and his high school friends. The third book, however, just made me cringe. There was so much saccharine pseudo-philosophical yammering about goodness and Ka and Ba and giving yourself over to others and so on. When I got to the chapter where Pat started to wonder why Danny would love her, and not Hermia, who was "everything Pat ever dreamed of being", I'd finally had enough. That is so unoriginal and lame, and following on the heels of listening to an hour of the scene where the two women struggle for control of one body and then Danny comes in and shows one of them how to get the body to accept her because "she's a better person". I can't.

1/5 would not recommend.

10 Comments
2023/05/17
17:44 UTC

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Is there a dedicated subreddit specifically for the Enderverse/Ender Saga?

Just wondering

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2023/05/08
23:42 UTC

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That time OSC *did* write a gay character…

I am, for those who are confused, talking about Zdorab from the Homecoming series. It’s revealed in The Ships of Earth that he is gay, and it’s referenced multiple times between then and his eventual death in Earthfall. How his character was handled wasn’t perfect, but it was better than I expected it to be, given what we know about Card and the fact that the Homecoming series is basically Mormonism…in…spaaaaace.

First of all, the word for gay man in-universe is “zhop”, which means anus. This isn’t too surprising, given the butt-related slang that has historically been used in real life. Before the events of the story, Zdorab lived in what was basically a network of zhops on the outskirts of Basilica, which mirrors the underground lives of LGBTQ+ in the 20th century.

My worst fear after that first reveal was that Zdorab was going to either turn out to be evil or get killed off immediately. That was not the case. Zdorab is portrayed as one of the least morally corrupt men of the village and gets more flak for being a librarian than for swinging the other way. He also outlives Obring, Vas, Volemak, and Rasa before dying peacefully of old age.

Where things start to get uncomfortable is the attention dedicated to Zdorab’s fatherhood. Marriage and childbirth is a main goal for all of the characters, and with Zdorab, the battle is particularly uphill for obvious reasons. This is an example of faith conflicting with orientation, and I did feel weird reading it, as if Zdorab passed some kind of test by having children with Shedemei despite not seeing her that way. Zdorab does care about Shedemei and tells her he loves her, and I chose to interpret that as platonic connection, not Shedemei turning a gay man straight.

This is my opinion, and I want to know what y’all think.

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2023/04/28
21:37 UTC

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Second Formic War Book 3

Has a release date been announced for "The Queens"? I've been anxiously wanting to read it for years now.

5 Comments
2023/03/28
20:18 UTC

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Which books contained this description

There was a point where there were "insects" that ate the rock of an asteroid and then produced small spheres of metals that the insects digested out of the rock. I've read all the books in the Enderverse and I wanted to go back and reread about this process. Which books described this?

My leaky memory thinks this was also in the Aaron Johnson books/comic books? I looked for anything about this in all the wikipedia articles about the books but couldn't find it.

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2023/03/25
17:08 UTC

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Hi! I’m new here.

I just now thought about if this subreddit was a thing (took long enough lol) and I just wanted to say that Scott Card is my favorite author of all time! I will admit tho, of all his novels I have currently only ready the first 2 books in The Ender Saga 😂😭 3 is coming soon the hehe. I just absolutely love the way Scott Card writes, I obsessed over Enders Game and Speaker for the Dead like no other when I read them. Its taken me a full year to get to 3, idk why but I just want to take a good long break from the series after each book but WOW it’s been so good, I can recall books pretty good but these especially. TL;DR Sorry, I’ve been rambling, I just wanted to say I appreciate Scott Card a helluva lot.

5 Comments
2023/01/12
07:26 UTC

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Pathfinder series: Visitors question (huge spoilers if you haven't read)

I'm listening to the audio book currently, although I did read the book years ago.
When the main characters meet up to discuss the beginning of the rebellion they are going to carry out, and Olivenko talks about how they can use their abilities to avoid the usual pitfalls of a guerilla campaign, a main strategy they discuss is having their first raid, then the second raid the week before it, the third raid the week before the second, etc. And then they spend a bit of time discussing how it will make their first raid harder because the enemy will be prepared but won't be sure why.

Its odd because this whole series, they've seemed to understand how traveling to the past can destroy and change the future that they've already experienced to be something that they didn't experience.
In fact, just before this, Noxon and Ram were discussing this fact in the context of hiding the starship in the past, Rigg and Ram were discussing it in the context of the village girl who was raped and murdered while they were visiting another wallfold, and Umbo was ruminating on it when he jumped ahead to the future and was about take Square/Biscuit to the present.

Am I misunderstanding? Did OSC and the editor(s) just miss this somehow?

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2022/12/08
20:54 UTC

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Demathsones and lark

what are all of peters and valentines sudoname
and was valentine the anti-russian writer and peter the *pro-russian* writer?

2 Comments
2022/11/12
05:31 UTC

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