was pretty good but then i spoiled myself on the plot of the rest of the books and am glad i only watched the movie lol.

Does anybody else feel let down by the live action adaptation? I just finished the first book since I remembered loving it when I was 8, and I loved it all the more now since I could grasp the world better. But the live action seemed like everything was forced. in the first 10 minutes we have information shoved down our throats, and there's no depth being portrayed by the characters. I really wish it was made into a T.V series, or maybe even animated so the cruelty of enders whole situation could've been made clearer, since forcing a 6 y/o into that position is demonic all by itself, especially when he kills stilsen in the beginning. Idk, the age up makes sense professionally but I always fealt like it showed alot more about their world with the siblings all being so young.

really enjoyed it, but I didn't feel like Peter deserved his character redemption

did you all end up liking peter?

I was bored so I wrote down everything I could remember about the battle school so correct me if I am wrong. the station is so cool so I just had to share.

the station has 3 rings each having different compartments:

the outermost ring for storage and water and air recycling with 0 to 30ish% percent earth gravity normal I think.

the middle ring is the living courters with the teachers on the top floor followed by the older boy's army rooms and classrooms then the launchies rooms and the mess hall and lastly the gym, the gym has higher gravity than the rest of the habitable ring.

and then we have the battle rooms from what I could tell there would have to have been at least 3 separate battle rooms in the center of the school but they don't rotete the school itself does.

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that is what I could remember if you have anything to add or correct me on I would love to here it.

I've listened to all the books in order, now I'm up to Shadow of the Giant, but I can't find it anywhere? Does anyone know where I might find it?

Anybody else notice in Ender's Shadow, Bean is talking to Itú, and Bean asks if the total number of commanders graduated is 9 but it should be 11 or 12 depending on if you count Bonzo. 5 toon leaders, 5 assistants, and Bean all got promoted so it should be 11 commanders graduated, not 9.

I just watched the movie today and since they wont make another movie I want to just read the book from the beginning. So yeah please help me out! Thanks!

I recently watched the movie enders game and looking it up i see there are aton more books than i thought and im wondering if endersgame the movie covers all the books up to that time or if there are books of more events after the end of the movie coverage.

Hello everyone, I just finished listening to the audio books for the first two books and would love to move on to the third, but apparently I cannot find anywhere to get the Xenocide audiobook.

YouTube doesn't have one, neither do third-party sites. Audible turns up no results (probably related to regional copyright, since I am in Europe and not using the US audible version) and neither do apple music.

The only place where I was able to find a legit copy would be Kobo, but they charge 33€ for it and, while I am no expert on audio books, feel like that's a bit too much for a single book...

Does anyone have any alternatives I could try?

Every time Ender mentions her I'm like oh God that's right you have a sister with a silly name that I find 10x more distracting than Ender

I literally just can't explain it to you guys like a normal person I sound crazy to myself but there is something intrinsically silly and stupid about naming the lead female whose main characteristic is empathy as Valentine

A great character with a silly name that has always bothered me

Dost thou not agree?!?!?

I bet you get these kind of questions all the time but I need to know. I’ve read Enders game I few years back, and I’ve started reading Enders shadow a few days ago and finished it today. It’s such an incredible book I couldn’t stop reading. But now I wonder what book in the series is best to read next. I know there is the giants game and shadow route, or gender in exile route and I don’t know which to choose, so I ask for help.

Hi all. Just finished the original novel and liked it quite a bit. Read the ebook but would like a nice hardcover edition to add to my shelves. I've seen the one from Easton Press, but are there any other ones of note? The Dune books published by Ace are along the lines I was thinking of. More artistic and interesting.

Are any of the Enderverse books available on Kindle Unlimited? I own a Kindle, but I'm trying to finish the enderverse before I move on to other books.

I have often wondered why Jean-Paul seems to read and like Demosthenes, is he just mocking the kids? Is he trying to compliment Valentine?

So I think The Last Shadow is not very popular, right? But I've read it and I just want to share my opinions on it because... It is actually my favorite book in the series so far.

I was actually planning on it being my last book from this from this franchise, but I've changed my mind after reading it.

So I've read Ender's Game, Speaker for The Dead and Children of The Mind (didn't read the Shadow series yet, so I was a bit lost at the beginning of Last Shadow).

Now, The Last Shadow is not the most philosophical, deep or interesting book in the franchise. Far from it. Comparing to the other books, The Last Shadows is basic, there's very little drama and those philosophical conversations the characters are known for don't go very deep in this one.

But damn, the book is fun to read (or listen to, which is what I did) and the birds are super cute and amusing. The pace is pretty good too; aside from the slow beginning, there are no boring parts like Children of The Mind had. Everyone in the book seemed to be having fun as well, it was a very different feeling from the other works I've read.

It felt like that last The Matrix movie. The directors just took the elements from the other movies and decided to have bit of fun with it. And yes, the last Matrix is also my favorite of the bunch.

So yeah... Just wanted to share some of my thoughts on it.

the real value i get from books is when i read them years after my first read. I read speaker when I was a teenager and most of the philosophy went over my head. I still loved the book the most of everything i’d read till then. OSC’s writing style has had the most impact on me out of all the authors I’ve read.

Anyway, the book was as engaging, maybe even more so this time around. I’m still young so am excited to see how my view of it changes when I pick it up another 6 years later

Honestly, I had hoped some people would attempt to replicate the dynamic relationship between Valentine and Peters anon online personas.

I feel like Reddit is the perfect format for that to take place primarily.

No one's done it better

It’s so disappointing, Ender’s Game has definitely became one of my top 3 books of all time and I was so excited to see the movie, after renting it and not even getting 10 minutes in, they have already switched up the story, almost no build up, and giving specific characters roles to other characters, and then giving some characters entire different personalities, what we’re they thinking with this???

I think it’s unclear if this book is still being worked on. Haven’t seen any updates on it since 2022 and was wondering if anyone knows if it is still happening. Thanks.

Hi Ender fans,

As the title states r/bookclub is reading Ender's Saga. We have already read Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead, but you are welcome to join us for Xenocide starting in January. Find the full schedule here, plus links for the 1st 2 book discussions.

Note each discussion is specific to the chapters allocate for wider book and wider world discussions you can visit the final discussion or post in the marginalia.

Happy reading 📚

So recently I reread Ender’s Game for the first time in about five years, and really enjoyed it. I first got the book about ten years ago, and read it multiple times for a while.

I was a bit younger then, and didn’t have as much tolerance for longer books. I read Ender’s Shadow, really enjoyed it, and I also got a good bit into Ender in Exile, although I don’t think I finished it.

At some point, I tried both Speaker for the Dead and as well as the next books in the Shadow Saga. I never got far in those.

I loved reading Ender’s Game again, and will definitely be reading Ender’s Shadow soon, but I was curious if beyond that the books continue to be as great as the first ones. Thanks for your opinions!