Just acquired (haha!) my third DS9 EXO-6 figure last week! Love the outfit! Still working on the best pose/props/hands, but liked this well enough.

Universal Studios Hollywood is having Fan Fest Nights honoring many classic franchises, including Star Trek. Seems a certain Ferengi will have merchandise available, for the right price. Photo credit to Five Fires on YouTube.

Change of Heart: Hey Worf, you chose saving your wife over completing the mission. And you got a guy killed! Way to break the Starfleet narrative, buddy.

Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night: Hey Kira, remember your dead mom that you’ve venerated over the past 25 years? She was screwing Gul Dukat, and now you get to go back in time and watch. And almost murder her!

Inquisition: Hey Dr. Bashir, guess what? Every ideal the Federation is built on is a lie, and lazy writers and edgelords are going to use Section 31 to ruin the franchise over the next 30 years!

In the Pale Moonlight: Nuff said.

Ira Steven Behr, that’s some brave showrunning. (And some deep, deep hurting.)

Hey there,

I'm watching episode 7x07 right now and was blown away by this shot of DS9 from above. The scene starts right after >!Worf tells Kor that he will be 3rd officer on the Ch'Tang!<.

I was wondering: Are there any earlier/other shots of DS9 from straight above?

DS9 from above

I have a friend who is taking his first steps into star trek via DS9.

I know season 1 and 2 can put some people off so was wondering what people's opinions are on what essential episodes I should suggest from those seasons before he gets going from season 3.

I get this is subjective. Just interested in what everyone thinks, however different. Thanks.

Recognised his voice straight away, what other kids shows have any DS9 actors appeared in?

We’re all grateful but couldn’t you have done that an hour ago?

Now everyone is entitled to an opinion and tv can be subjective at times but this rhetoric is driving me a bit nuts.

I'm sure I've been seeing it more often lately b/c of the Section 31 movie and everyone loves to assign blame for a concept they don't like but I feel these ppl just don't get it.

For some background I grew up on TOS and was a young teen when TNG first aired. I've seen almost all Trek besides LD, Prodigy and most of Disco S5.

Now I don't know the exact details of Rodenbberry's vision but it's clear that it's a message of hope. Humanity has come together and are unified and have solved most of the world's problems that plague us today and that humanity itself has evolved metaphorically to some extent as well and we're more capable of controlling our behavior and self destructive impulses.

Beyond that, I don't know what more there is to his "vision", if anything, so if anyone would care to add to that I'd appreciate it.

Now I may not know exactly what he was thinking but I can say with some certainty that I have an idea what his vision isn't.

From what I can tell the arguments for what I mentioned are the fact DS9 created Section 31 and it shouldn't exist in Rodenbberry's vision, the fact that Sisko takes some questionable actions in a few episodes and the fact that DS9 features more war than previous Treks.

So what is Rodenbberry's vision? War never takes place in the future? All people have the moral compass of Picard?

Humans are better than Romulans and Klingons and other races because we don't glorify violence or act duplicitous?

I'm really not sure what it's supposed to be beyond what I first mentioned.

TNG and Ds9 were created close to 20 yrs after TOS. Society changes as will the problems facing it so of course some of the subject matter will change.

If humanity has evolved it doesn't mean other alien races wouldn't want to destroy us or conquer territory . A show featuring an incredibly large Federation of Planets surrounded by potential enemies will of course feature military conflict of some kind.

TOS didn't glorify war and neither does DS9.

Portraying something and condoning it are not the same thing.

Section 31 were portrayed as villains in DS9 and were in no way portrayed as "necessary", except by Sloan who of course would think so.

Star Trek is a lot more than flying to new planets and encountering aliens who always end up trying to screw the humans over and are defeated by human's best qualities. They even mixed in some good natured ethnocentric ribbing by mocking Spock's differences at the end of each episode.

I love TOS but let's not pretend Rodenbberry was some kind of visionary who only knew what Trek "should be". He couldn't even imagine a world where women wouldn't have to abandon their careers in Starfleet to raise their children.

TNG S1 and S2 are pretty much TOS 2.0. The music, the tone, the cheap alien vista sets, the same rehashed plots. It's no coincidence that the show improved as Roddenberry became less involved.

S1 and S2 even featured a few different former lovers of Picard just coincidently showing up where the Enterprise was headed.

It seems like Roddenberry couldn't even figure out Picard is no Kirk and the show should reflect that.

Does anyone else remember the DS9 episode where there's a bunch of refugees from a female dominated culture?

Anyone who says Star Trek "turned" woke recently is lying, an idiot, or hasn't watched any of the older Star Trek series.

End of rant. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

I was recently watching Doctor Bashir, I Presume and thought Chase Masterson is underappreciated at how well she sells the kiss at the end as an actress. She genuinely looks happy to be dating Rom.

Compared to literally all of Kira's #3,701 stilted terroristic relationships, Bashir's creepy-at-best-illegal-at-worst pursuit over Jadzia or his patients, Jadzia and Word's toxic relationship, or O'Brien's bickering, Masterson's delivery is genuinely up there as the most believable in DS9.

Doing a rewatch and it strikes me how perfect this duo is from the first episode. They are the perfect odd couple, both phenomenally performed. They are kinda the heart of the show.

I've watched and liked both Voyager and Enterprise, i found next generation okay(please dont shoot me) but i just tried watching the pilot of deep space nine and i had to stop half way. The character Cisko and his acting is just... god damn....

does it get better?

So, I know the easy answer is something like a handjob or fingering, but I have a different take. I was at the barber today getting my hair washed, and the scalp massage she gave me just felt so intoxicating. And I flashed back to third grade, when our crusty old school nurse was doing head lice checks on everyone. She was picking through my hair with what amounted to medical chopsticks and to this day that is still the most nonsexually pleasurable experience I’ve ever had. So, my personal oo-mox is getting my head checked for lice. What’s everyone else’s?

Not a fan favorite obviously. But I like the idea of Quark getting his eargasm reward in the end. Viva Allura!

I know Jake isn’t the most popular character for some…..myself included. This was the only episode with him having the central storyline i really cared about. For some reason i thought this episode came way later though

DEN OF GEEK:

"Star Trek: Deep Space Nine was the first show to feature Section 31 and they're still the best to do it, because they understand how it relates to the franchise's moral perspective."

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The fact of the matter is that TOS, TNG, and DS9 understood Starfleet’s military trappings as something humanity sought to shed, not something to be embraced, which made Deep Space Nine‘s Section 31 stories thrilling and provocative instead of darkness for the sake of darkness.

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Despite Sloan’s logic and charges of hypocrisy against the doctor, who got into Starfleet Medical by lying about his status as an Augment, Bashir disagrees, which is, of course, the point of “Inquisition” and every Section 31 story that Deep Space Nine told. Times are desperate, and desperate measures seem reasonable. We recognize that but, in the end, we reject them and hold to our values.

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Like the oft-visited Mirror Universe, Section 31 exists as a dark reflection of the Federation. It’s not a means unto itself, it’s not a group that deserves its own stories and characters. It exists to question, and finally to underscore, the importance of the Federation and Starfleet.

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Nearly every Section 31 story after Deep Space Nine has forgotten this principle (the multiversal version from Lower Decks remains blameless). They’ve gotten too caught up in potential for edgy action, chic anti-heroes in black leather doing the neat stuff all the other cool sci-fi shows get to do. But dystopias always fail in Star Trek and so do dystopian takes on the franchise (seriously, look at the Rotten Tomatoes scores for Section 31).

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There’s nothing wrong with wondering if the ends justify the means in a Star Trek story, but it’s no mistake that the only successful Section 31 stories have ended with a resounding “No.” "

Joe George (Den of Geek)

Full article:

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/star-trek-deep-space-nine-section-31/

I know that it's ostensibly a heavy episode and all, but it has two of my favorite legitimately funny moments. First, when Quark tells Kira that he likes his women "a little rumpled". And then when Kira hits Dukat square in the grill with a coffee mug. Classic comedy right there

Two more for my collection!

They broke 7 of your transverse ribs and fractured your clavicle! Ahh but i got off several cutting remarks which no doubt did serious damage to their egos

When Brunt explains exactly why he loathes Quark so much is as good as any of the top scenes in DS9.

He sells it so well. Just saying the word "philanthropist" seems to be so difficult for him.

His pronunciation of "humanitarian" also gets me every time.

The show was lucky to have him.

He makes the same character that we all loved to see murdered by Garak in cold blood, sympathetic in S7's "Treachery, Faith, and the Great River".

That's quite an accomplishment for both him and the writers.